EPISODE · Nov 4, 2025 · 28 MIN
S4:E8 - Mary Barrows & 'Joe the Fourth and the King's Crown'
from The Banderpod · host Bandersnatch Books
Annie Beth Donahue interviews our newest Bandersnatch Books author and illustrator Mary Barrows (author of Joe the Fourth and the King’s Crown). About ten years ago, Mary switched careers and started writing her Middle Grade novel Joe the Fourth while also making an effort to begin working as a freelance illustrator. As her illustration business grew, so did her confidence and the scope and size of her hilariously adorable kid’s adventure Joe the Fourth and the King’s Crown. We interview Mary about all the steps and obstacles that stood in her way as she struggled to create a career as both an author and an illustrator simultaneously.Stay tuned for a reading of the first chapter of Joe the Fourth after the interview!PREORDER - JOE THE FOURTH!Mentioned in this episode:* Joe the Fourth and the King’s Crown* Mary Barrows Illustration* The Rabbit Room* Andrew Peterson* The King’s Messenger* No Clues, You Lose* Kathryn Ladny Mitchell - Not To Be* Red Rex* Lemony Snicket* Procreate®* Little Critter BooksClick to learn more about Bandersnatch Books!www.bandersnatchbooks.comSpecial Thanks to:Son of Laughter for our theme song: “Cricket in a Jar.”Evelyn Warnemuende for our artwork.S.D.G. Morgan for audio engineering: sdgmorgan.substack.com & bammerhab.substack.comDiana Pavlac Glyer for our namesake book, Bandersnatch This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit bandersnatchbooks.substack.com
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