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EPISODE · Feb 26, 2025 · 40 MIN

S4E5: DOGE Layoffs Are Sabotaging Public Lands

from 90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast · host Chris Clarke

About the Guest Kristen Brengel serves as the Senior Vice President of Government Affairs for the National Parks Conservation Association (NPCA). With extensive experience in advocacy and policy, Kristen has been a pivotal voice in the conservation and protection of national parks across the United States. Her work involves lobbying on Capitol Hill, engaging with international media, and championing environmental policies that safeguard public lands and ecosystems. Kristen is a long-time advocate for the protection of public lands, bringing awareness and action to issues impacting national parks and their staff.  Episode Summary In this episode, we discuss the recent layoffs affecting the National Park Service and other land management agencies. Featuring Kristen Brengel of the National Parks Conservation Association, the episode looks into the devastating effects of the recent federal workforce reductions on desert public lands and conservation efforts. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the challenges facing park staff and the significant measures needed to restore these vital environmental protections. Chris and Kristen explore the impact of thousands of layoffs within the National Park Service and other federal agencies, critically affecting the management and protection of public lands in the desert and beyond. The conversation touches on the importance of seasonal and probationary workers to the National Park Service and how their abrupt terminations are undermining both visitor safety and conservation efforts. Kristen emphasizes the urgent need for public action to support park staff and shares strategies for pressuring Congress to reverse these harmful reductions. Key Takeaways Thousands of employees across federal land management agencies, including the National Park Service, have faced unjustified layoffs, severely impacting public lands protection. The layoffs include significant numbers of seasonal and probationary workers who provide essential services such as search and rescue, impacting visitor safety and park operations. Kristen Brengel emphasizes the critical role of Congress in reversing these layoffs and urges public action to pressure lawmakers to protect public land staff. Despite the bleak circumstances, there are positive discoveries in national parks, such as the finding of a new plant genus, Ovicula biradiata, in Big Bend National Park. The episode advises on the economic and cultural importance of national parks to local gateway communities, highlighting the broader impacts of workforce reductions. Notable Quotes "In just over a week, the Park Service has lost 9% of its staff. It's not like there is a plan in place to handle this decrease in staff." "Parks have a ripple effect on the economy. It's just pure math when you look at the economics of this." "It's not like the Park Service had an alternative plan. It's a dramatic and traumatic cut." "This is not the year to go on a rigorous hike. We want people to be safe, and we're worried about folks going into the summer." Resources National Parks Conservation Association https://www.npca.org/ Contact your Congressional representatives to advocate against federal layoffs in national parks: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative 90 Miles from Needles' donation page: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateBecome a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chris hosts Kristen Brengel of the National Parks Conservation Association, discussing recent layoffs in U.S. federal land management agencies, including 9% staff cuts in the National Park Service. They explore the impacts on park safety, visitor experiences, and the economic health of gateway communities.

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