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S5 E1 Catching Up

from Live Forever · host Dan Glaser, Steve Chase, Brent Smith

Welcome back. This week Dan and Brent discuss how the beginning of the year has been going and what we have been up to. Looking forward to new shows this year. Thanks for listening. Any fan mail can be sent to [email protected]

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Welcome to Live Forever I'm Brent. I'm Dan. We are Live Forever without Steve today. Sorry.

So sorry. We're Steve at today. I don't know man. He just wouldn't be able to make it.

Yeah it's weird. It's like he's got a full-time shop now and suddenly not so gone about the show. Weird. No it happens.

No it does. I mean really. I just think it's funny because he was like, so Mr. I'm never going to miss a show.

It's going to be you guys at band show. Well you've been sick back to back to back to back to back to back to back. Yeah pretty much. I mean that's the thing.

You're not sick during the week. No. You're like, oh shit or Thursday. Well yeah it was actually more like either leading up to I was sick.

You know what I mean? Like leading up to the weekend. I had like a stomach thing. You feel better Sunday but shit.

That's the best weekend. Last weekend I was just I just had a fucking cold. So I was a motherfucker dude. First time in three years.

I was like fuck I might never get sick again. Am I a superhero? Nope. Nope.

Not at all. Here's a reality check. Totally human. Do you want Super Bowl?

I did. I thought it was good. I wanted the night is when. I didn't watch it but we all knew Taylor Swift was going to win.

I don't know. It looked dicey there for a minute. Oh yeah. When there's some weird stuff where people were announcing who was going to be in Super Bowl like before the Super Bowl like was officially determined.

Yeah and they were actually wrong. Oh were they? Okay. I think the prediction was.

Or was it? No the prediction was Ravens. Speaking of Ravens. Ravens.

Ravens obviously aren't a fictional creature but why don't we have more like fictional creature teams. Like the Detroit Dragons. That would be sick. Right?

I mean maybe because we don't have a lot of like culture. Just dead stop culture. I mean that's kind of the thing though right? I mean like you can't use dragons.

I mean that's kind of an English or Asian thing. That's a worldwide thing. We like our racism to be rooted in the North American people that we conquered. Red skins chiefs.

That kind of thing. Exactly. Yeah which is ridiculous. But whatever.

Do you ever hear about the thing with the Indians? Like the team? Yeah the Cleveland Indians? No.

They were I can't remember what they were. I want to say like the generals or something. I don't know. But they had a different name before the Indians.

When they were first starting out and they had several Native Americans on the team. Oh. And somebody was like man you guys should be the Cleveland Indians and they were like we like it son of a bitch. We should.

And the Native Americans were super behind it. See this is really how I feel about this. Like if you start out a team like called the Indianapolis Indians people are going to be offended. But if you had no teams named after like Native Americans they'd be like hey man we're not represented in the game.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's like a double edged sword type deal. It's like no matter what you do you're going to be wrong. And Indians also not a derogatory term.

Like they call themselves Indians. Yeah but it's because of us the laymen. It's true. Which white men?

Yeah. I mean it's just yeah. Okay sorry. We're not going to start that.

We're not going to talk about racism on this podcast because we're all white. Mostly. I mean I claim white on my forms. Yeah.

I mean I'm sure something else. I don't know. Oh I'm definitely something else. I have very olive skin but I don't feel good about it.

I don't feel good about putting Native American or. I'm white and German so it's like which one do I go for? I think that's the same thing. Yeah.

Is it white and German? I mean people are like oh white people. Oh and it's like which ones? Swedish, German, European, all Russian.

All of them. I was like yeah they all are horrible. I don't care. People are horrible in general.

Any race it doesn't matter. I mean. Hey are you listening to this? You're a piece of shit.

We'll move on. I was going to say some race of shit. I'm glad you didn't. So what you been up to man?

It's been a whole month and a half into the year. It's been a while. Yeah we have not done a podcast this year. I know.

And it's weird it's only been like five weeks or something. Yeah about a month and a half roughly. But when we go that long without recording it always feels like it's been like three months. Yeah.

Because I'm like fuck yeah it just gets away from us I think. Well I mean people have fucking lives. That's right we did record one but we just did not release it. Oh yeah because it was ass.

Well somebody all might have heard it because we did release it and then we took it for like five seconds. So if you downloaded it lucky you. Yeah we did one on Lord of the Rings that I mean it was all over the place. There's too much to talk about.

It's just too much to talk about. And I don't know if you went back and listened to any of it but not. It was extremely low energy dude. It was.

I remember going to say it's like. I'm more door. I can't listen to this anymore. Like the information wasn't bad.

Like I thought I was overwhelming with like my backstory shit about the Silmarils. Wasn't that bad? Yeah. It was just low energy as fuck.

Like nobody really was into it. See anything is like we enjoy all that. I want to do that you guys. We enjoy all that stuff.

Like that's who we all are. But it's just like I mean talking about it versus like just enjoying it. It's two very different things. I totally agree.

Yeah and it's hard. Like we enjoy Legos. We could not do an episode on Legos. No I mean not until we add a visual element.

Yeah which maybe is coming. I would say at least by the summer time maybe. Nice. Yeah.

Switch over to a visual element. And some of that space too. Like we don't really have a lot of room because if we go visual we'll have to like we'll either have to do multiple cameras. Or we're going to have like squish all on one side of the room and it's going to be weird.

Yeah that would be weird. We'd all be talking to a wall. Yeah I mean like we're going to be like the widest angle lens ever or I don't know how the fuck it's going to happen. Yeah because I mean really the best thing to be put in one of these corners but then we all have to be on the opposite side.

Yeah again you're all just cramming into one side. Yeah and I'm definitely not going to take the time to edit it and switch between cameras. Sync up audio. Yeah I'm not doing it.

We're going to be doing like laps on the fucking audio so you can sync it up. Oh man. No thank you. No that's a lot of work.

I mean I love you guys but we're just not going to do that work. Other than being sick and crushing games. Man. Not much else.

It's been some great games coming out. It's been a great year so far it's only February. I know. I mean hell divers too right.

Like can we just get in there for a minute. It's pretty sick. Sure. Like it is Starship Troopers and Terminator combined into one awesome let's kill everything game.

Yeah it's like I think currently it's just PC and PS5. Yeah I kind of wish they would have done Xbox and would have been cool but clearly at this point they're having trouble with their servers. Yeah they might you never know they might release it for that. I don't think it's an exclusive type deal.

I think that's just what they programmed it for and if it's on PC it can't be that hard to port an Xbox. Yeah it's cool too because it's all like over the top Starship trooperish. Yeah I don't know if you remember that movie but it's very like go to comically comically fascist. Yeah like that good way to put it because like through all of hell divers it's like get ready to spread some democracy.

How'd you like the taste of that Liberty? Yeah if you blow up a whole bunch of fucking bugs or robots it's fucking hilarious. Yeah it's got kind of a what you name your ship. Panther of steel.

Panther of steel nice. Yeah I think I did mine a whisper of was it not whisper of destruction but it was whisper of something like it was like you're not gonna see me coming but I'm gonna blow you up. Whisper of destruction. Is that like sound of a dead thing?

Oh good call. I guess it is. I guess you named your ship before. But yeah no there's been a lot of issues with it.

The first being full some bug where XP is not being given. Yeah and fuck that I'm not playing a game like that with that XP dude. Well which it's fine because it's a fun game to play but if I can't unlock new stuff what is the point of playing but like I said I logged on this morning. It's killed so many things from me in the past.

I logged on this morning and I was now level four instead of level one. So I can't. Nobody's playing it eight in the morning. Well what I'm saying is it gave me all the XP from when I played with the all the.

No it didn't. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Oh sweet. Yeah as soon as I logged in I was level four and I hadn't.

Oh that's what you mean. Yeah yeah I thought you meant you logged in and you got already before I'm like yeah no shit. I just had stuff. I was like sweet.

Oh fuck yeah. So I guess it was just some bug. What are we doing here? I installed some new RBG fans on my computer.

RGB RBG. I don't know whatever. Colorful. LED.

They light up. They make cool patterns. And they're so fucking quiet. It's crazy.

Like the ones that came with the case I was like this isn't too bad you can hear it when it starts up but now it's like I told Brandy I was like hey come here check this out. She cares not. No she's like is it even running? I'm like exactly.

Yeah hell yeah. You're like cool that's all I need to go with. I just wanted to show you. She's like oh you're just now installing the stuff I got you for Christmas.

I'm like yeah I am. Yeah because I'm busy doing everything else for you. Right. I love you.

She's not going to hear this. No never. Yeah my wife doesn't listen either. Think on.

She just hears it from afar. Yeah I know she just judges us from the next room. Like that's not what that means. Dude how dope would it be.

So have you seen those crazy like I want to say hologram but it's really just a projection where they'll do like a fan that moves really fast. You put like a GIF on the fan. Yeah. GIF what do you call it?

I call it GIF because I don't know. I just said GIF because GIF is correct. I think that's why I said it but it's not right. Yeah well I also don't call soccer football because I'm not a jackass.

Exactly. But no yeah I have seen those. But how sick would that be if like the fan thing you can put that like in a PC so you could have like a little bird like flapping inside. Well they have those for the CPU fan.

No. Yeah that's what I'm saying. So you can have a little image on your like someone installed one and put a what a gerbil running on a wheel. It just looks like a gerbil's powering your CD.

Yeah dude. So it already exists. Yeah it's not a 3D version but it is still 2D like flat image. It's still pretty sick.

Still pretty awesome. Nice. Hell yeah. Well it's not 3D but I don't know if you noticed because I just found nails that were pre-existing in the room.

But you remember those old space like old school reflector pictures you got me? Yep. Yeah I don't know how close that was. Yeah those were all the fine and like cool shit like when you ever gonna see something like that again.

Never. It's like a 1960s like this is what it's gonna look like when we go to the moon. Yeah dude you remember stickers bro? Stickers?

Yeah. We were like going to a store when you were a kid and they had like a whole rack of stickers like they were fucking comic books. Dude how cool were the machines where you put them fitty sent you like randomly get some sticker. You're like I don't know what it's gonna be but it's gonna be like a hologram or this or that and you're like get to choose like what or genre of stickers you get.

Very shiny embossed. Yeah. The weird like triangle reflective 3D but it's not what you don't know. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

The like prisms. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Words like yeah yeah. I just spit.

That's why we got these little filter things. Ahh. You don't spit on my mics. But now that's why I made me think of it because I would have murdered my younger brother as a kid to get these like space themed reflector stickers.

You know I looked like a little ray gun. I looked like it was like shooting or a little alien pop out of a spaceship shit like that. I saw some artwork at Scratch and Sniffs. What dude?

My XY's grandparents house but it's like an actual like artwork but it was in the triangle thing where if you look at it for one angle it's one artwork and if you look at it for another second one I was like dude that is cool shit. It was like a numbered artwork and everything. Yeah that's amazing. That was really cool.

I don't know why more people don't do that. Yeah. That's all kinds of shit we could do when we're on camera. Like I wouldn't mind doing an episode on optical illusions man.

And just like testing each other like which lines longer. You'll be like they're the same length. I am such a fan of optical illusions. Right?

Like do you remember Magic Eye? I'm a member of the fucking subreddit. Like the Magic Eye stuff. The illusion born or something.

Oh yeah. I used to love Magic Eye stuff. Like I've gotten my vision capable of like just immediately seeing those. Same.

Just because I was like this is so cool. And they're like yeah you got to relax your eyes. And I'm like hmm. Maybe lazy already.

Yeah I can just already see it. It's kind of like a superpower. And dolphins jumping over a rainbow. Horse running through a river.

Jetsky. What else you got? Man. I do miss those.

Stereograms. Yeah that is what they're called. I'm sure there has to be some AI that can do that now. Yeah speaking of AI.

Might as well bring this up. Probably you can convert anything into a Magic Eye at this point. As of a couple days ago the new Sora AI has been released by OpenAI. Which is the new video stuff.

Oh yeah. And I don't know if our listeners have seen this but look up Sora AI videos. Like S-O-R-A. It's been out for a couple days and I guarantee you within a month.

Because before that it was like videos like someone would be eating something in their mouth would look all weird. Oh yeah. Like you look at like the what AI thinks of burger commercials supposed to be live. And now it is like real perfect.

Like there's still a couple weird things. There's a couple weird things. But it's like I mean so far beyond what it was a week ago. I mean just in terms of I mean in terms of like games.

Can you imagine once that is an open source. Oh everyone's like you're hurting people's jobs. It's like no what we're doing is we're allowing people who don't have the ability. Like if you're a single person.

You're allowing creatives to be more creative. If you want to make a video game but you're like I can't make a cutscene. Guess what? You can now.

Yeah. Like it's that simple. It's like it's allowing one person to do more. Yeah it's the same sort of digital revolution as far as like content as like audio software or video software you know like garage band on an iPhone.

Oh you're ruining producers. Like not really. Because producers are still going to be the best. Exactly.

No one gave a shit. A real photographer is still going to blow away somebody with a fucking iPhone. Where was all the pushback when they created a robot that could turn a bolt that got this guy in a factory fired. Oh there was plenty of pushback.

But there was not as much like this artist stuff. It seems like there's people who pushback versus like you're hurting artists jobs versus like yeah you didn't cry when factory workers weren't able to do. Because the people who cried the loudest are the people that don't have jobs. Why?

Because they don't have anything to do. Yeah. So get artsy losers. Yeah be more creative.

Yeah be creative on your free time. Guess what? Just learn the new stuff. That's like completely.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like most people that's like people who are like I learned how to program in basic and now they come up with this thing called C++. I mean now you're losing my job. Like you just have to learn the new thing.

Now that it's over I'll go ahead and tell you I use chat GPT for my review my performance review. Did you do? I did not. We'll be right back.

Sorry I just had to say that off. Oh okay yeah I understand. But yeah as long as you read what it says and you go yeah I agree with that. There's nothing wrong with that.

And it's hilarious because what's it like one shot you got it right the first time or you have to tweak it a little bit and do it right. Yeah well that was the thing like it was late at night when I was doing it. It was actually after we went to see Theo and I was like shit I gotta get this fucking done just popped in my head because you know whatever day we were supposed to have it done it actually didn't matter because straight didn't read it until many days later. But no like I would sit down and based on the prompt like what I wanted to say and it just right better.

To highlight fact A, B and C these are the particulars 150 words or less. And then when they would spit it out I'd say okay now say it without these adjectives because it does repeat itself a lot. Yeah but that's the whole thing about like prompt engineering air quotes. Right.

That is going to be the people who are good at this are going to know how to tweak these things to make it spit out what you want. Exactly. Because I mess around a lot with the like picture generation stuff stable diffusion. Yeah yeah.

And I've actually switched over to comfy UI. Comfy okay. So I'm trying to get to where I can produce an image with one. Which is funny because so at that point you're doing the same thing that like game designers do because they're operating within an engine.

Yes so basically you're just programming within an engine. Yes you're coding essentially. So basically what I'm eventually going to try to do because I turned 40 this year we're supposed to go to Vegas and brain is like alright we can go to Vegas but you're gonna have to come money to gamble with. That's right.

I'm going to try to create images and start like a patreon like a dungeon and dragons type storyboard images with a little story behind it which I'm going to use AI to help me with all that. Of course. I mean it's not like you click a button on the eye and it's like making a story about fantasy. Think about using it for D&D.

Yeah. You can have a fucking PC based dungeon master. And it's not well and here's the thing you can't really just be like a creative story for D&D and it's just going to do everything for you like you really have to do it like section and tweak it till it's like okay I really like this album. You've got a copy of it right.

You've got chat GPT like as a local based L.L.M. which is not as good as chat GPT. Chat GPT is like I mean but the local stuff does. Is it the kind of thing that you can teach it.

Yeah. So theoretically you could feed it like the D&D rules. Yes. And then you could feed it multiple campaigns.

Yeah and then be like okay make one like this. Yeah I haven't gotten that far into it but that's something. You're the DM and let's go. Yeah.

I mean there's people who are kind of already doing that but it's kind of sweet. It's obviously very. I'm like basic right now. I can start a game and just play by myself.

That's the whole thing right. Like and then at what point is it a video game? It's not a video game. Well not because it's a video but at what point is it?

Yeah it's just a weird thing because it's like it's still a computer game because you're not a person saying right three goblins attack you when you try to sleep in the forest or something you know. But it's not far off from like a digital assistant. Yeah. That's able to do all the things that were prompting.

Yeah. Like it's it's eventually going to learn our tendencies. Yeah. Kind of like you know like Cambridge Analytica that episode we did on data about how like everybody always thinks that their phone is listening to them and what they don't realize is that there's so many there's like 900 data points probably more now.

This was back in like 2016 when that documentary was made. I think it's just called big data. Yeah. And they have so many data points on you that they predict what you're into.

Yeah. And that's all AI is doing is predicting what the next word should be based on its information. Right. So eventually they're going to start using your data to predict what you want so that you don't have to write a fucking novel of prompts.

You can just be like, yo, I want to watch a movie of Macho Man and Bigfoot solving mysteries and they'll be like, fuck yeah, I knew you'd want that already made it. Oh, I bet like 10 years from now, it's a trilogy. I bet you 10 years from now, you're going to get ads for games that are designed for you. 100% like mobile games like hey, check this game out and you're like, oh, that looks cool.

You're the only one playing it because it's on science. People are going to start plugging the shit into the algorithm. I mean, they kind of already are, but it's just not that quite advantage. But it's so fucking close.

It's not that obvious yet. Yeah, that too. I don't know how much time you spend on Reddit, but got to help you if you fuck around on Reddit and you get into an argument. I want you to know that like 90% of Reddit are bots.

Oh, yeah. And they've got their fucking amazing and their chatbots. And so like you're not going to win an argument. You're not going to change a fucking AI's mind and people don't realize it and they'll get into these fucking arguments.

I just spit all over you. Sorry. Look at these arguments on Twitter or it's not as bad on Twitter anymore. Well, here's the even on take-ons cut down on the bots, but they're still there.

Well, even on TikTok now, some of the things on the bottom, you'll see it says AI generated creator. Oh, right. Someone has created a TikTok. Oh, that's another thing.

That uses AI to find videos for clips just to make money. Which is good for you. I enjoy the thing that's happening on Reddit. Like bots are doing posts.

Yeah. Like it's not even people posting. And here's the thing with Reddit, you don't make money on it, but like on someone on TikTok. Okay, and you make money on it.

Yeah. But anyways, but yeah, now people are creating bots to make money on stuff like YouTube shorts and TikTok, which good for you. For you, man, I wish I would have figured that out. I'm enjoying the content it's making.

Yeah. That's all I care about. Exactly. Yeah.

And I'm sure there's some creator like, take my job. I was creating videos, but it's like, man, they'll then do better because right now they're doing better. Like I don't know what to tell you. You gotta do better than what the machines are doing.

And maybe it's because I know my job, I can never imagine my job being replaced by an AI. Not likely because it's so hands-on. Yeah. I mean, maybe one day it'll be like, it's so hands-on and fire equipment is so old by default.

It's automatically seven years behind. Because I mean, maybe one day there'll be a fire alarm with an AI built into it that goes, Hey, go check this device because there's a trouble with it or check this wire at this distance from the panel. I mean, you never know. That would be amazing.

But yeah, that's the thing. You would still need to do it physically though. Yeah, it would make my job easier. Fuck yeah.

I don't think it's going to replace. No. And here's the thing. If all jobs got replaced, that's kind of what everyone wants, right?

No one wants to work. Right. I mean, at some point it's going to have to be like a universal income type deal. It's like, listen, we're just going to give you X amount of money a year.

I don't know. Things are expensive though. The trades are never going to go away. No, there's always going to be electricians.

There's always going to be, you know, some people in college. Shoulder than my grandfather in high school. Just go straight to work. Kind of.

Yeah. That's what I told my dad. I'm like, if you want to go college and they're like, what are you going to study in at the time? I'm like, I don't know.

As it got closer, I was like, psychology. Dude, within three classes of, you know, I was like, it suddenly dawned on me that all your life is listening to other people's problems. Yeah, you don't want to lie. Fuck.

I don't know. You're like hearing anybody's problems. I mean, if you're a friend or loved one, yes, I like hearing your problems. So email us at lyferpob.com and we'll give him the Dan.

I will fuck all your shit. Send it to me. I will mansplain the fuck out of you. But no, I just, I mean, here's the thing my daughter wants to get in like movies or musical theater.

One of the two. See, that's, that's a focus. That's good. And I'm like, you don't have to go to university to do.

And she's like, well, I don't know. I'm like, here, here. That's why I said, I said, either one, you go to college and you're going to owe some money when you're out of college and you'll have a little step above people or you go in right now. And if you leave high school, you go get a job running lights.

Well, yeah, exactly. You know, being a PA, like doing something, you're going to have to start at the bottom and you're going to have to work for years to get up to where. Well, and there's stuff, I mean, like lights, you wouldn't think so, but. No, there's lighting engineers and stuff like that.

Sure. But that's going to be replaced by AI. That's going to be replaced by a digital. But you're still going to have to have the guy there holding the camera or the guy setting up the lights, setting up stuff.

Like, AI is not going to be able to show up like something. Are going to be not as necessary going forward because there's going to be artificial light sources. That is true. I'm going to film this shittily.

We'll make it. Yeah, because the cameras will be so good that they can just. It's not going to be in the dark. The AI is just going to be able to upscale it because you can upscale stuff now.

You can take an old photo like a Polaroid and you can make it a fucking poster size and it's lossless like it looks perfect. Shit. What? Hate to shit on you a little bit.

Go ahead. Just reminded me of something that I wanted to bring up because it's crazy. My brother sent me a video of like, I mean, it seemed kind of like a TED talk. I don't know where you got it.

You're talking about the talk about TED talk that they did? No. Okay, we'll talk about that in a minute. All right.

I'm going to talk about the AI TED talk about wireless routers. Have you seen that shit? No. Okay.

So of course everybody's seen the dark night. So you know that shit with cell phones where they can see everything. So invisibly. Oracle.

Maybe that's what it's called. Oh, yeah. It is called that. Pretty sure.

Good job. Comic nerd. So what this AI does that was in the TED talk. So there's I think I think radio frequencies all around you at all times, but they don't completely pass through you.

Yeah. So it can tell from the resistance that from the drop of where it came from. Like what's there? Long story short, if you have a wireless router in your house, AI can see where you are.

Yeah. At all times. Just like in dark night with the fucking cell phone thing. They don't need cameras.

I mean, they don't need cameras to see you is what I'm trying to say. I mean, honestly, they could probably do with ultrasonic sound that you wouldn't be able to hear anyways. Oh, yeah. And it's just like, oh, no, we can see through your whole house and you don't know that we're seeing you.

Oh, 100%. I've had, I talked with sniper or a former sniper who's now the one of the safety guys out at Google. And he said, 100%. There are technologies to see and hear you through concrete buildings.

Absolutely. He was like, yeah, I had shit that would pierce through two tanks. Yeah. You remember a rainstorm?

Yeah. Exactly. If you're standing in a room and you think you're in a concrete bunker, like not only can I see you in that concrete bunker, I can fucking ping you in the head. Yeah.

I mean, here's the thing. Don't piss the US off and you're fine. Yeah. I mean, I guess you could build a fair vacation with your house.

Yeah. Buried in the concrete walls that you build. But I mean, who's going through that trouble? Yeah.

I mean, I don't really care if they see me. Yeah. I mean, at this point, like you go to the airport and they can see it. And honestly, my Wi-Fi is not that great on the second floor of my house.

Not that word about it. I mean, you keep your windows open. It's not like it's a, it's not an issue for 95% of people. Yeah.

But if you're up to some weird shit, fucking knock it off or make sure they don't have Wi-Fi. Yeah. Because they can see exactly where you are. Yeah.

That's wild. That's interesting, though, isn't it? Like, I mean, that's what all AI is. It's just understanding big data that we as humans can't comprehend.

It can see the patterns. It can see patterns and stuff that it's too much for us to look at. It's too thick to take too long for us to figure out. Yeah.

Which I'm all about, man. I can do it. We're skydin' it. I'm ready.

I mean, yes and no. But I mean, the wireless router thing just immediately made me think of those fucking squid things and fucking matrix that are time to get them. Like, oh, yeah, that's how they find you because they can see everything you're doing. Well, you know, for a while there, everything was like, hey, you can buy a fridge that's Wi-Fi connected.

That's the same reason I don't want one of those. Yes. Okay, okay, your toaster's Wi-Fi connected. It's like, okay, let's burn this dude's house down.

Yeah. And you think cars can't be hacked nowadays? 100% cars can be hacked. Yeah, you'll get yourself a fucking 69 Chevelle and you want to worry about it.

I'd love to have an old Toyota or something. Yeah. It would run forever. Have you ever worked on an old car?

No, I don't really worked on cars. Like pre-computers and cars. I mean, I had a 95 S-court that changed the oil and it breaks on. So the street department in my hometown I worked at in the summertime and we would occasionally have to work on some of the vehicles and they were old enough to not have computers in them.

Yeah, not even fuel jackers. They were just all car-briaged. Yeah, bro, it's so fucking easy. Yeah, like anyone could be a mechanic.

Like all the shit's right in front of you. You're like, oh, well, yeah, that's not working because this. Well, here's how they stop that. They go, well, emissions-wise, those vehicles are no longer legally driven.

Done deal. I mean, lots of other things. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, they're going to find ways to stop people from doing off-res. Oh, yeah, yeah.

You're saying by driving old cars and shit? Yeah, like, I'm going to get away while doing this and eventually they're like, yeah, mission-wise, we can't have that vehicle legal. Or it'll be like some sort of special thing like. Yeah, you have a special car.

You can drive it like twice a year or something. You can't have a special tag so they don't even know everything about you because you had to register it. Exactly. You're still on the grid.

Yeah, man. There's no way to get off the grid. Not at all. Just exist within the grid.

Kind of excited about this afternoon, though. Yeah, you want to see the Dune movie? Yeah, man. Regal cinemas, they do that thing.

Just like the Conan, the barbarian episode we went to see. Yeah, we saw the original Conan movie in theaters. Like, it's really cool to see like a classic movie like you were unable to see in theaters. Yeah, like, I mean, did you, when they did the re-releases of the Star Wars, did you go to see those?

Conan's the only thing I've seen. What? Yeah, I know. Dude, I've seen Alien Labyrinth.

Oh, man. What? Yeah, Labyrinth was sick. Labyrinth was sick.

And I think they're doing it again, but Labyrinth is cool because like there's like a 30 minute, like, behind the scenes thing that they did beforehand and then they do the... Wait, here's another thing about movies like Labyrinth. Like, when we watched them as kids, they were not in theater dimensions. They were pushed down to four thirds.

Right, exactly. So now you're actually seeing like all this extra shit that wasn't... You've never seen before. Exactly.

The movie as it was intended. Yeah. Yeah, that one and Alien really fucking brought us. That was awesome.

But they've done like God for other, I haven't seen that. They're putting out the 80s dune. That's what we're going to see this afternoon. The new one comes out next month.

This month? Pretty soon. I don't know where it is. I want to say it's March or April.

I want to say it's March. I think it is too. I'm excited about that one too. Yeah.

I got to re-watch the first half. I haven't... It's been... It's so fucking sick, dude.

Yeah. Watch it again. I promise you within a few minutes you'll be like hell yeah. And then you blink and three hours go by somehow.

Here's the thing. I spent a minute since I've seen the original dune. So I can't quite remember everything in it. I'm kind of like I don't want to watch it and then compare the new one to that one.

I kind of just want to wait and watch the new one and then go back and watch the old one. That's fair. I think they both stand on their own honestly. I mean the old one was great.

It's fucking awesome. Toto dude. Toto did the whole soundtrack. Yeah.

I love Toto. Raines in Africa. Yeah. Everybody loves that shit.

Rosanna. You know what I actually watched for the first time yesterday? What's that? Or not yesterday.

Probably like two weeks ago. But Ghost in a Shell, the anime. Dude it's really good. It's so good.

It's like Akira. Yeah. I just recently put out the right version. Really?

Yeah. Because well, I mean depending on your opinion, there was like a remaster where they fucked with a lot of the animation and put in like CG shit. Oh no. This was like all garbage.

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