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Why, hello, dearly detested. We are gathered here today for Perhaps It's You, an unofficial Unsolved Mysteries rewatch podcast. I'm Liz. And I'm Samantha. And I was just telling Samantha there's absolutely no room for improvement in this podcast. It's perfect the way it is. It's certainly as good as it's ever going to be. No, no, Samantha, that's the wrong attitude. You're going, Liz, it's a jumbled mess and you're never prepared and you just babble about stuff. And I'm like, yeah, exactly. Perfection. No room for improvement. There was something on Twitter this week where...
I don't know who had this opinion, but it was real bad that if you were going to say rate a book on Goodreads, less than three stars, instead of doing that, you should contact the author and let them know what your problems were. So like, I don't know what the goal of that was, but basically like you don't need to air that in public. Let the author know your criticisms, which is like massive misunderstanding of like what reviews are for. Reviews are not for authors. They're for readers to see if they want to read the book. Right. But I was like, this is.
If you thought that I wanted that for this podcast, you're dead wrong. You can listen or you cannot listen. But I like what we make. We make it for us. You can join in or not. But I definitely do not want your negative feedback of what could be improved. Absolutely not. That is garbage to me.
I cannot imagine a scenario in which I would email an author, a creator, really anyone with my negative feedback. Have you considered making what you make, but like to my customized taste? I can't imagine doing that. I cannot imagine doing that. It's a very weird idea. And then his, I mean, obviously it was a dude. His response was like, wow, you guys must know some really fragile authors. They couldn't take a little constructive feedback. I was like, no, just no one cares about your opinion. Like you do. And that's great. But no one else does, guy. No one else.
Mr. Stephen King, have you considered? Yeah. Like, what does he care? He's rolling around in his millions of dollars in Maine. He doesn't give a fuck what any of us think. I write it in and I was like, so I got around to reading Carrie. Gotta say, ending kind of disappointing. Just dies in fire. What? Have you thought about like maybe rewriting that? Can we get like a Carrie 2 where you fix that for me? Me personally? Yeah, that's absurd. That's absurd. It's like the book's like dedicated to me. To Liz Walker, who pointed out all my foibles, making me the man I am today.
yeah yeah no it's it's wild out there i feel like the pandemic is making people real weird yes and i'm actually surprised it hasn't made me weirder i've got maybe it's because max here and maybe it's because i'm slightly accountable to the five and i'm not just i haven't become completely feral which is what i would have expected by this point where it's just like I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? I mean, the weirdest thing I've done is I made a Baraska in my Animal Crossing island. I'm excited to come tour your Baraska area in your island. If you folks, if you play Animal Crossing, join our Facebook group. Yes. Join our Facebook group and we can go visit Liz's Island. You can come to the Baraska. Yeah. That's not that weird. That's not that weird. Not that weird. It's slightly weird, I guess, but people make whole islands that are like killer clown themed. Yeah. Or Harry Potter themed or whatever our theme. So not that weird. Not that weird.
I just remember when I was a teenager, like I would be cleaning my room and I would get distracted and I would end up like making a whole art project. But I think I just don't really have that like energy anymore. Maybe. Like I'm expecting to be more like that where like I haven't, I don't know, had any human contact and I'm just in my pajamas like doing weird projects. But for one, Mac is here to like make sure I remember to eat. So that's good. It's helpful. It really is helpful. I can check in with you to make sure that I haven't like.
totally lost the plot I guess and we do have the five like you said we have the five I have to hang on for them you know we're keeping a podcasting schedule more or less consistently so I think that's something it does remind me that like time has passed because otherwise I'm not sure I would really know where I'm like oh man it's already been a week it's time for us to record again huh exactly so it all kind of blurs together you're also accountable to Lenny Briscoe and Ray Curtis yeah a little bit so yes how are you holding up I am doing okay today. We had a really bad windstorm on Friday night. And pretty much, our area did not have a tornado warning, but pretty much everywhere else did. At one point, there were nine tornado warnings, which I've never seen before. We don't live in Tornado Alley. We get some severe weather up here in Minnesota, but it's not usually like that. So we had some straight line winds. And I will say, I feel like I'm on this edge where almost anything could tip me over into just not being able to handle life anymore. And I have these mammoth sunflowers. I've been growing them from seed. And I kid you not, just babying these stupid...
sunflowers along i'm out there every day i fertilize them once a week i put up a little staking system after our last windstorm because we get really bad winds on that side of our house and i went out there after the windstorm and they were like flat oh yeah i thought i was gonna have a breakdown i almost did they are fine most of them are fine we did lose two and i like was able to sort of tie them to each other kind of to get them straightened back yeah they're like 10 feet tall at this point these sunflowers are massive and i've been it's like the only thing i've been doing like all summer is just taking care of these stupid sunflowers And when I saw them laid over, I was like, well, this is it. Whatever. Why? What is the point? Yeah, I just give up. I just give up. So I'm doing better today because I went out there before this podcast to check on them and they've straightened a little bit. The thing is, they're just about to bloom. And I'm like, I've been waiting for this all summer. You stupid flowers.
And if they all break and fall over in a windstorm right before the blooms open, I'm going to just, I don't know, climb on the roof and jump off, I guess. But fortunately, it's not going to come to that, I don't think, because I think they've mostly recovered. I mean, I don't think jumping off your roof is going to kill you. You might just break your leg. You know what? That's a really good point. And then you'll just have a beer.
You'll just have a broken leg. You're right. I didn't think that through. I'm headed to the Belvedere, everyone. Bye. See ya. I'm glad you survived that storm because I heard the tornado sirens and texted you and you were like, no, my cookies. My cookies are in the oven. And I was like, oh shit.
It's time to decide which is more important, your safety or the cookies. Okay, this is something. If you're local to us in Minnesota, you will understand this. Because just the last year or two, they started selling Sweet Martha's Cookies in the grocery store, which is this iconic cookie stand from the State Fair. Where you go to the State Fair and you literally buy a bucket of cookies and just eat them all. Everybody is walking around with an overflowing bucket of cookies. And that's somehow normal. And the ground is just covered in smashed up cookies. And no one bats an eye. It's like, oh, I'm just going to go buy 100 cookies.
There's so many. It's like a gallon bucket just full of cookies. And so they sell these in the grocery store now. And you could, my husband and I have got down to a science where we cook them for eight minutes and they're so soft. You almost have to eat them with a spoon. So good. So I had just put my sweet Martha's cookies in the oven and all of a sudden Liz is texting me telling me that there might be a tornado coming my way. And I'm like, well, the tornado could take me. I don't know. I got eight minutes.
It's like, Samantha, Max says the tornado's heading your way. Well, because obviously we were like, we didn't want to go in our gross basement. So we were like monitoring where it was after hearing the sirens to see if we really had to go into the basement. Or I could just keep, you know, playing Animal Crossing on my couch like I wanted to. And then it was like, oh no, it's going Samantha's way. Well, I'm going to die, I guess. The tornado gets here in nine minutes. I was kind of like, yeah, I'm not going to really stop doing one. Storm, I'm busy. I don't have time for this.
There's Animal Crossing to be played. Well, we all came out of it pretty much okay. My sanity is mostly attacked. So we will start another week. That's all we can. I mean, really, all we can do right now. I know times are tough. I know people are really struggling. All we can do right now is survive. Let's literally just make that your goal. And then if you did that, great. You excelled. That's it. Completely agree. The only goal. We're just trying to make it through. Oh, my God. Do we have any updates? Oh.
Yes. So one update, even though she doesn't listen to the show, is I'm going to be a friend of the pod, Kara. I got a mysterious present in the mail, which was the double record of the Unsolved Mysteries soundtrack. And I was like, who sent this? It's amazing. This was a mystery. It was a mystery. It turned out it was Kara. So thank you, Kara, even though you're not listening. They're very pretty. They're like pink and red and yellow records of the Unsolved Mysteries soundtrack, which I didn't have and I do definitely need. So that's pretty cool. I also have an announcement. Well, a two-part announcement.
So we are going to be continuing on with our Patreon thingamajigs. You may be aware that while everything is going so great in this country, we've also decided maybe we don't need a post office. So, yeah, things are going really well here. If you're not here, be super thankful. The president was like, what if we just didn't have a post office so that you can't mail in your vote? That's a good idea. I'm going to be president for life. Yeah. So we're going to keep mailing out your rewards. They just, I don't know if they're going to get there.
They might be on the floor. There was once a Chicago post office that had this back room that was just full to the ceiling with mail or something. Because they were just shoving it. Maybe it was an abandoned post office and they were just shoving all the mail. They didn't want to deliver in there. I sort of feel like stuff like that's going to be happening. We're going to keep mailing stuff out. Hopefully you get it. It's a little bit out of our hands. On that note, I have some tote bags to sell. Yeah. And I was waiting until we were done with our dog bandana sale to sell them. And now I'm like, well, now the post office doesn't work.
You know what? We can't control that. We can't wait. It might not ever get any better. I can't wait it out. So, yeah, that's how things are going. Anyway, we have tote bags, new tote bags, for the podcast that say, perhaps it's you, podcast. And then a little quote, it sounds like women talking, WTF on them. And what's extra amazing about these tote bags is that they're in holographic foil. They're amazing. They're so beautiful. They're even better than our last rainbow foil ones, I gotta say. I didn't think we could top it.
These are better. And this is the only batch of these that is going to exist because we get them printed locally and the printer told us they're not reordering this holographic foil for whatever reason. This is rare. The rare item. So I'm going to start selling these. Okay, Patreon people, you can buy them on the 31st. Everybody else, 1st of September. That's when they'll be available to the public. I'm going to make this up right now. They are $22 with U.S. shipping. You got to add in.
I don't know. I'll have to look it up. You'll have to add in more shipping to ship it to, you know, internationally. Whatever. I can't even talk anymore. So we will have beautiful tote bags for sale. You will buy them. Will you be able to get them? Hopefully. Because they're really nice. They are really nice. It would be such a shame if these ended up in a warehouse somewhere. Yeah. But we'll have some faith. We'll hope that these will make it to you if you purchase one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's been an interesting year. We had a post office burned down nearby.
I wasn't getting mail for a little bit. I'm not even sure that's like ever happened where they're like, we're gonna have to turn off mail service because of, yeah, there's no post office there anymore. Also, my GPS keeps trying to take me to that. Oh, my God. Google still thinks that post office is there. Google. Yeah, it'll be like, turn at the Arby's. And I'll be like, we burned that Arby's down. It's not there.
it's gone google anyway i'm supposed to be talking about our glorious tote bags they're black tote bags holographic foil oh they're so beautiful head over to instagram maybe yeah we'll post a picture on instagram and maybe a video a boomerang perhaps you'll be able to see the reflection i've been carrying mine around you know to the grocery store you know i don't really go anywhere but a few places i've gone i brought this tote bag and it's been great yeah you might also say like i don't need a tote bag right now because i don't fucking go anywhere well there's not a lot i can do about that You can put it in a frame and look at how beautiful it is. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Sew it into a pillow. So, yeah. I'll put up a link just for the Patreon people. 31st. They get the first crack. And then I will put it on the website on the 1st. And I guess I'll get back to you next episode with international shipping prices. But that'll also be on the website. So, I think that was it. I think I should have maybe said that in a more joyful way. This is exciting. People are going to want these tote bags. We've got a few weeks. We'll remind you that the sale is coming up. You're going to want to get your hands on one of these rare. Very rare. Exclusive. Locally printed tote bags to help out the show. Because, obviously, we need snacks.
Oh, yeah. And we might need to buy some fake Canadian passports because our passports are useless now. Yeah. So fund our fake passports. I'm not bitter at all. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I am optimistic. I look at a glass and I go, I can't believe there's any liquid in it. What a miracle.
Praise Satan. Thank you for this precious liquid. I have one or two updates as well. I want to thank the listener Bruce, who apparently Liz is taking up smoking. If you follow us on Twitter, you will have seen that. I would. I would. Sorry about my dad. Except that I can't get pink cigarettes in this country. You know how I can go to a fucking Walmart and buy like an automatic rifle? That's fine. Apparently Obama banned flavored cigarettes. And pink cigarettes are usually rose flavored.
Oh, I didn't realize they were rose flavored. That's the reason I can't get them. It's Obama's fault. And I just feel like as the world is ending, I deserve a treat like pink cigarettes. So that's what I was talking about. And everybody agreed. Oh, yeah, it'd be great to smoke pink cigarettes. I mean, I don't really disagree. Why not at this point? Yeah, I don't I can't really think of a good reason not to, honestly.
Yeah, no. But anyway, so listener Bruce saw this exchange and, you know, couldn't get pink cigarettes to you, to us, but did send along some cigarette holders, some like Corella DeVille style long cigarette holders. So we have those. So when we get them, we'll be able to smoke them in style. Yeah, so we're halfway there. Not sure how we're going to get the other half of this. You can send us some pink cigarettes. It's probably like super illegal and I shouldn't ask you to do that. So don't do it.
Absolutely do not do that. That sounds bad. That was a really fun package to get in the mail. Thank you, listener Bruce. I feel like I had another update, but I don't really remember what it is at this point. During the show, you can go breaking news and then say your update. Cool. Sounds good. I have the first mystery. Yes, this is season 5, episode 19. We must be getting to the end of the season. Usually there's 20-something episodes in a season. I haven't checked on season 5. Obviously, we're not planning ahead. You know how it's impossible to plan ahead now? I don't know what's going to happen. That's the thing I think I miss the most, though. Plans.
None of those. We watch on YouTube so you can look this up. YouTube made me sign in to verify my age to watch this episode and I have no fucking idea why and I'm mad about it. I'm mad too because I normally watch on my TV and I'm not signed in on my TV because my Google password is my email so it's super long and I'm way too lazy to look it up and type it in. And so I was like, God damn it, now I'm going to watch this. Was there anything illicit in this whole episode? I don't understand. I don't think so. This is primetime television that small children watched with their grandparents. Why do we have to sign in to verify my age? I never signed it on my TV because I just don't want Google knowing that much about me. They already know plenty.
I'm not bitter. I'm not bitter at all. That's the theme of this episode, is that I'm in a good place mentally. Not bitter. Not bitter. Very positive. I definitely think an election's going to happen. I definitely think everything's going to be just fine. And I don't think this is like the part of the movie where you're screaming at the people to move away from the haunted house. No. You know what I mean? Where you're like, oh my god, why are you staying in this house that's clearly haunted? The walls are dripping blood. And they're like, I don't know. We'll just wait it out. Okay. Whoa. We're going to talk about...
a wanted there's a lot of wanteds in this episode but this is specifically about brian brofill who lived on the vermont border close to canada uh if we go back to august 1986 he bought a large farm there and he told the locals that he had made his fortune fortune in toothbrushes so which i just think is a hilarious lie it sounds like he made it up on the spot it sounds a lot like a seinfeld joke and it also is just like so uh brian see you bought a big parcel of land out here mind me asking uh what what was your business what was your trade um toothbrushes oh Okay, so you were in the toothbrush selling business? Manufacturing, mostly. Oh, yeah. A little import, a little export. You know how you make millions of dollars off toothbrushes? That's me. Notoriously lucrative, the toothbrush trade. Yeah. I kind of don't know if you named the mustache, which I don't know if this real life dude had a mustache, but the guy in the reenactment did, and it was a bold mustache. It's a bold, very solid mustache. Probably fake. Has some Tom Selleck vibes. I called it the warm blood based on the horse that he buys that everybody makes a big deal about. I like it.
I like it. Okay. So he goes to this, like, very rural area. People are friendly, but, you know, maybe, like, not super open to outsiders, particularly city boys that have a bunch of toothbrush money coming into town. How many times do they mention that he was not prepared for rural life? Oh, my God. It's all they could talk about. You could do a drinking game every time someone mentions that this was a city guy totally unprepared for how to live in the country. Look, I kind of live in the country. It's not that fucking hard. I don't know what they're talking about. I'm just living anywhere else.
Everyone's laughing and you're like, I had to go fetch horses this morning because they got out. And I'm like, oh, your life is so exciting. I mean, I guess maybe not everyone could do that. But, like, for the most part, it's not that much different than living fucking anywhere else. Yeah, I don't. I mean, also, this guy's rich. He can just hire people to do stuff he doesn't know how to do. He doesn't take care of his own horses. We'll talk about that later. So I don't know what these people are talking about. He's not living, like, an Amish lifestyle where he's, like, putting up his own barns and churning butter. He just owns some land now. But, yeah, these people cannot get over the fact that he was a city boy.
And he came to their town. But he won them over with his friendliness, his curiosity, his willingness to learn. Basically, he admitted that he didn't know anything. And that made everybody feel good. It annoyed people. They mentioned that it was kind of annoying. He was eager to learn. But his way of learning was asking you how to do it and then watching you do it. So that was kind of annoying. But he was so charming. His idea of learning was saying, hey, Samantha, could you show me how to do this? And then Samantha would show you. And then you would go, OK, could you do that again? And then you don't have to do it at all. Smart, really.
Someone refers to him as an accident waiting for a place to happen. Because he doesn't know how to live on a farm, I guess. I guess. Whatever. I'm sure he had help. I don't think he was running a farm by himself. I don't think he was, like, getting up with the rooster. It seemed like he had a few horses. I don't know that he was busy with other things. I don't think he was out there, like, tooling the land in a big tractor.
Yeah. Yeah. OK. So at one point he buys this really expensive warm blood horse and everybody makes a really big deal about it. He's like, yeah, I paid 10 grand for this horse. And people are like, they're like so impressed. And the only suspicious thing about him was that he paid for boarding his horses, which I think he had to in cash. And the woman who takes his money tells her husband this because there's like nothing to talk about in this town that she comes home. She's like, you won't believe it. Brian paid to board his horses in cash. And her husband goes, oh, he's a drug dealer. And she's like, no, no, he's nice.
okay those things are mutually exclusive and anyway he had to go to the bank to get the money he told me because that's you know proof uh well it turns out that he was growing tons of pot on his farm he had over 2 000 plants and it was the when he you know gets raided and it's the biggest bust in vermont history and they show his setup super elaborate these lighting systems and the like sprinklers but mostly because it gets so cold in vermont he had to like keep it super warm in there at this point in the in the episode i was like well he does know how to be a farmer yeah Apparently he's doing great. I don't know what we're talking about. So his farm gets raided, but he's not there at the time. He's at a friend's house, I don't know, doing who knows what. And so they get a call saying like, oh, have you seen Brian? And she's like, why? And it's like, well, his farm just got raided by like the ATF or the FBI or whatever. And so Brian stays super calm and he tells his friends like, oh, I just got to go straighten this out. I need to make a phone call, whatever. And he comes back and he's like, yeah, can you drive me to the airport?
I need to save my reputation, right? And they were just like, oh, okay. Getting out of town. Yeah, exactly. Um, Tom History said that he made a quarter of a million a month just off the pot. Um, and people in this town are shocked because they all liked him. Basically, I think it's because he's white, right? They're like, that guy's a white, that white guy's a drug dealer? That guy was running a huge pot farm? Or maybe you're right, and they're just surprised that actually he was great at farming.
I mean, maybe that was it. They were like, well, how dumb are we? We thought he was a bad farmer. He was a great farmer. And we should have asked him for some pot because it looks like he had quality stuff. The woman that boards his horses said that she couldn't believe he lived such a double life. And I was like, this is not a double life. That's his job. This is a double life. Several people say that he was living a lie and they feel bad for him. And I was like, no, I don't think he was living a lie. He just didn't tell you he grew pot. I don't know that that overtook his personality in every way. People are acting like he pretended to be friendly. And I was like, I bet he was friendly.
He just also grew pot. And that just like is completely not comprehensible to anyone in this segment. It's supposed to blow our minds that his only past conviction is for drunk driving, which is honestly the shittiest thing we learned about this dude. We see a cop now that has a mustache. And I called it the 12-year-old. Because if this guy did not have a mustache, you would think he was 12. He clearly has a mustache just to look like an adult. And he actually might be a child wearing a fake mustache. So now we learn that Brian was part of a vast smuggling operation. So in addition to growing pot, he also was somehow involved in smuggling heroin. And he had started doing this after traveling to Europe and seeing people. And again, I think he was friendly. He met a bunch of people living a very affluent life and went, I want in on that. So he started.
taping heroin to his body and smuggling it and that's how he got into the drug trade um an informant at some point tells the feds that he wants to smuggle in 12 million in heroin but doesn't know when or where and i was like that's not a tip drug dealer wants drugs very good unfortunately viewers in okay so that's in the segment basically you see this informant meet a guy in like a dark car lot And be like, yeah, so he keeps referring to his big deal he's going to retire on. Oh, yeah? Yeah, but I don't know when or where it is. Okay, drug dealer wants to deal drugs. Got it. So that's the end of the segment. Unfortunately, viewers in California recognized him. He apparently watched the show and then immediately took off. So he was arrested in Carlsbad, California, and ended up doing seven years. Let's take a look at Unsull Mysteries Wiki. Yes, captured. Viewers from...
Paso Robus, California, were shocked to realize that Brian was one of their neighbors. What? That friendly guy? He's been living a double life. Local authorities immediately moved in to make a duress, only to discover he had disappeared. It is believed that Brian watched the broadcast and fled. He left all of his personal belongings behind. While in California, he had lived under the name Brian Jenkins and was working at a local horse ranch. Blah, blah, blah. They tracked him to Carlsbad. He was arrested on December 19th, 1993. Three weeks later, he was extradited back to Vermont. He was found guilty on drug possession and smuggling charges. He was sentenced to 12 years in prison. He ended up serving seven. He has since been released.
What a waste of everyone's time. This guy now would probably get like a small business grant to start that farm. That's what I thought this whole time. And at one point when they were still looking for him, they said he could receive potentially 20 years to life. And I was really hoping the update wasn't going to tell me that he was spending life in prison. So, I mean, I guess he'd spent seven years in prison. So, yeah. It's a big waste of everyone's time. It's very stupid. Yeah. Yeah. That's that story. If you would like a sort of an image for your vision board of how your pot farm should look, watch this segment. It's gold. Hashtag gold. Yeah.
All right. This next segment is also a wanted. Okay. In the summer of 1988 in the Persian Gulf, a U.S. ship had been attacked. I think it hit an underwater mine, actually.
So U.S. naval boats and aircraft were patrolling the Gulf in order to protect U.S. ships. One of the main naval ships was the USS Vincennes. Is that the right pronunciation? I think it's how Robert Stack pronounced it. Sure, that's fine. It's fine with me. It was equipped with surface-to-air missiles. On July 3rd, 1988, the USS Vincennes was traveling through the Persian Gulf when it received word from the USS Montgomery about attacks from Iranian Revolutionary Guard ships. A reconnaissance helicopter was, I think, shot at?
by like small arms fire. I'm not, it wasn't like super clear to me and I'm not like a military analyst, but it was, I don't think we really, okay, we mean in like these US ships, I don't think we really had permission to be where we were. So I don't know why we're like so surprised that. Oh, that we were with resistance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a. So, yes. Yes. It's not great. At this point, an unidentified aircraft appeared on the radar of the USS Vincennes. At this point, I was doing some like Wikipedia-ing of this whole incident. And it seems as though the captain, who is Captain William Rogers, was very focused on this conflict with the helicopter and ships in the area that.
this appearance of this aircraft really like i don't know like if the right word to describe it would be like tipped like the stress level over or what but this aircraft appeared on their radar uh and everyone's already at this like heightened level everyone on the u.s in the u.s side is already on this like heightened level of aggression and whatever and so they try and hail the the plane several attempts to contact the plane were unsuccessful it didn't respond um captain rogers then uh, fired missiles on the aircraft in fear that it may strike them in sentence. Can you fucking imagine if someone did that to a U.S. plane? Uh, yeah, that, no. What, what war, what other war would we be in right now? I think this guy was just really trigger happy.
so that's what that's what people said about him i was reading about it and again like there's a lot of criticism at this guy that basically said that he was known for being very aggressive and then a lot of people think this was just like the inevitable outcome of his aggression that this situation happened and they fired on a plane and guess what it was a it was an iranian passenger plane it was civilian um and what's horrifying is like i mean the whole thing is horrifying but there's video footage um that's all mysteries plays because there was an uh um, a camera crew on board the Vincennes. And you can see like all of the crew members on the Vincennes cheering when they struck the plane. And then all of a sudden they start getting reports that an Iranian passenger flight, this was Iran air flight 655. Um, it was a commercial passenger plane. It had 290 passengers and crew aboard. And suddenly these reports came in that this plane was missing and they realized, Oh shit, that's the plane. We just, we just killed 290 people for absolutely no fucking reason. Yeah.
surprised that this is on on some mysteries i know you're going to get to the actual like mystery but i'm kind of surprised that they told this story because i feel like this is something the u.s government like really likes to pretend didn't happen well they frame it as a tragic accident in the segment uh the uh the captain is interviewed for the show and he is portrayed as being i mean he probably was torn up by this um you know he i think robert stack mentions that it like haunted him for the rest of his life As it should, though. As it should. There's a sympatheticness towards him and the situation that I don't know. I mean, so there's that. So what Unsolved Mysteries describes, again, is that most people accepted the downing of Iran Air Flight 655 as a tragic error. But the error, nonetheless, the flight was not running on its scheduled time, and it did not respond to repeated attempts to identify itself. The Vincennes could not tell the difference between the plane and a fighter jet. I'm not sure why. I assume maybe radar wasn't that sophisticated at the time.
I have no idea. I'm sure people will correct anything I get wrong about this. Inside. Inside Iran, however, the response was very different, as you would expect. I wonder if people were mad about, like, I don't know, their families being blown up. People were very mad. They refused to forgive and claimed that they had a right to seek revenge. Meanwhile, in San Diego, California, this is where we get to the actual, the mystery. Captain Rogers' wife, Sharon, who was a fourth grade teacher, was trying to cope with news of the incident. A week later, at about 1 a.m., her phone rang and a man with a Middle Eastern accent asked Sharon if this was the home of Captain Rogers. He then asked her, are you the wife of the murderer? To which she hung up the phone.
Sharon was afraid that someone was planning retribution against her. The Naval Investigative Service was called in to secure their home. Agents checked the mail and monitored incoming phone calls. They asked Sharon to always keep her van in the garage for fear that it would be targeted. About 10 weeks passed and there were no further threats. And then on October 24th, 1988, Sharon was at the dock to welcome the USS Vincennes and her husband home. Despite the lack of threats, the Rogers still kept their guard up. They always remembered to put their vehicles in the garage as was recommended to them.
But there was one night, this was March 9th, 1989, that they forgot to pull Sharon and William's car and van into the driveway. And they're both interviewed for the show and they said this is the one night that they forgot to do that. At 7 a.m. the next morning, William drove Sharon's van to a local market to pick up... breakfast pastries, I guess. After having breakfast, Sharon left in the van to go to work. At a red light, she suddenly heard a loud explosion behind her. The back of her van was completely engulfed in flames. She had difficulty due to her seatbelt locked up, and she had a moment where she was sort of unable to free herself, but she was able to get away with basically just seconds to spare before her whole van literally caught fire and just became engulfed in flames. First responders came, and when she told them who she was, they suddenly realized that something...
something else it wasn't just that her van overheated or whatever and caught fire that this was probably it just like explodes if the reenactment is at all accurate it explodes in like a ball of flame yeah it's a big boom and then her husband is like i thought maybe it was the catalytic converter and i was like you could just be driving your car and it would just explode and you'd just be like huh That's weird. I don't know. I don't think that's how it works, but whoever she was talking to immediately recognized that this was criminal and called the Naval Investigative Service and the FBI. They came in and secured the scene and immediately started investigating it as an explosion. They determined that there was a large pipe bomb that had been strapped to the underbelly of the van. The blast had gone just behind Shannon's...
sharon's seat and out the roof it barely missed her essentially the fbi learned from neighbors that about two months prior to the bombing a stranger had been uh walking around their neighborhood asking questions um asking if this was their house um being very kind of strange and well he had specifically asked like where that captain lived and they wouldn't say and then he was just like is there a middle eastern family in the neighborhood and of course the neighbor was like oh yeah that way right so weird so based on this neighbor's description a composite was drawn up of the man who's described as five nine thin uh Five, nine and a half, Samantha. They got it down. That height estimate was down to the half inch for some reason. Very precise. Very precise. He supposedly had dark hair and eyes. He had receding hairline. He had a Middle Eastern accent. There was a second man who waited for him in a BMW with California license plates. Basically, they were trying to figure out who put a pipe bomb in this van. The result is that it is unsolved. Investigators eventually came to believe that the bombing was a result of a personal vendetta against Captain Rogers.
Of course. I don't know. It took the real Sherlock Holmes to figure that out. If this Captain Hent shot down a plane, I'm not sure anyone would have a reason to put a pipe bomb in the van of a fourth grade teacher. Like, of course. I could have solved that. But the Statue of Limitations eventually expired on this case in 1994 due to the bomber never being identified. So that's that. It's unsolved to this day. I mean, kind of unsolved. We know why it happened, just not specifically who. Yeah. Yeah. Well, who knew there could be consequences for imperialism? Strange. Who knew?
Oh, no. Yeah. That's a thing I did not expect to see on Unsolved Mysteries. No, me neither. Oh, oh. Also, the wife at one point talked about how she wants to send a message to terrorism. What do I mean? All terrorism? I guess. Okay, lady. But I wanted to point out that there is a spectacular mullet in this segment. Oh, you're right. And it's also someone that seems to work for the Navy, which I did not see coming.
Because he's like, I don't know if it's just in a reenactment or he really worked for the Navy. I'm not quite sure. It's like him on a computer, like trying to solve what's up. And I just didn't expect to see a Navy mullet. But anyway, I've named it. All right. Jag in the front, jag off in the back.
Did you follow the standard mustache naming procedure to name this mullet? Is that the first thing that popped into your head when you saw it? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. It's honestly an art form. It really is. Okay. Now we have a lost love, which Robert Stack introduced us by referring to rock and roll musician, John Lennon, which I feel like is the most hilarious way to talk about John Lennon I've ever, like, you can't just say John Lennon.
Like, we don't know who that is. Rock and roll musician John Lennon once said, life is what happens while you're making other plans. First of all, everybody knows that quote. Everybody knows who John Lennon is. All right, Stack. Rock and roll. Are you sure you don't mean the other John? You don't mean just like a guy named John Lennon who, I don't know, works in shoe repair. Oh, you mean the famous John Lennon. Okay. This is the story of...
Of course, I forgot how to say his name. Philip Macri? Is that right? I think it's Macri. Close enough, anyway. And they will not stop telling you he used to be a high school basketball star. The only reason his life had any purpose, apparently. But he was on vacation in Virginia Beach back in August 28th, 87. He was doing some body surfing, and he dove into a wave and instantly broke his neck. He remembers opening his eyes underwater and not understanding why he couldn't move. And he could tell that he was being pulled out further and further into the ocean and started worrying about being eaten by sharks and also the end of his basketball career. However...
The reason this segment exists is because he was rescued by a mysterious babe, a woman who dove into the water and pulled him out, at least in the reenactment. Total babe. Total babe. A mystery. This is a mystery babe in this episode. I wish they had claimed that possibly she was like a mermaid. I wish they had claimed that maybe this was not even a human. That's the only thing that would have made it better. So she pulls him back onto the beach. There's this commotion from him being rescued. His sister is saying, can you move your feet? Can you wiggle your toes? And he's going like, no, I can't. Because he doesn't know it, but he's broken his neck. And so there's this huge commotion about him getting medical attention and whatever. And during that time, the mysterious babe just walked away.
They never got a chance to thank her for saving Phillip's life. So he is taken to the hospital. He had sand pumped from his stomach for days. Oh, that's so awful. Yeah. And had ended up having weeks of like high fevers from the infections from the break. So it is actually like pretty miraculous that he survived. And I think his mom comes in wearing the most like amazing puffy paint shirt that you've ever seen. So she has all of these different shapes on her shirt and like little chains dangling from it. Is one of the shapes a coffin? It's like coffin shaped. Was this a Halloween puffy paint shirt?
Maybe. I don't know. I didn't catch that. I don't know. I think it was just random geometric forms, which we were really into. We were just into, like, shapes. The power of shapes. So when he's released from the hospital, he has a series of goals. And his first goal is, like, that he's going to be able to get in the wheelchair, I think. And then, like, his second goal is he's going to go to college. And his third goal is that he's going to get a job or something like that. So he ends up becoming a player. Oh, my God. He ends up becoming a play-by-play announcer for local basketball games. So he's on Unsolved Mysteries because he wants to find the mysterious babe and thank her for saving his life.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. So I think she was actually watching this segment. It turns out... not really a hot mermaid, just a normal woman, Linda Potts. She calls in, they're reunited. And for some reason, she says that she feels like she found a lost member of her family. And I was like, this is someone you never even talked to. Like, I'm glad you were there and you saved his life. Like, that's amazing. But I don't know. His family like throws her this big celebratory dinner. They have a banquet and like a VFW or something. And she's like, oh, if Phillip ever needs anything, just give it. These seem like the nicest people in the entire world. So I am glad they found each other and now we're going to be friends. I wish the best to Phillip. Let's see if there's like, I don't know what there would be an update of, but I actually didn't check.
Oh, so it's a little bit weird. Linda, who's the mysterious babe, had actually learned years earlier from a co-worker of her husband that Philip was the person she had saved. However, she was unaware he was searching for it until the story aired. Oh, interesting. There you go. That's that case. I suppose she didn't want to just be like, hey, remember that person saved your life? That's me. Yeah, there's really no reason for her to get in touch without this public call for like, I'm looking for this person. She just found out. I'm sure she was probably curious if he survived. I would be. And so she probably found out like, oh yeah, it's this guy. He does the basketball announcements now. And she was like, oh, cool. All right, so we have to skip a few non-mysteries. Most of this episode is a special alert we've already seen and an update for a case we already watched.
Remember that really sad case where that guy was looking for his wife and then it turned out that she was murdered by their neighbor and he buried her at the end of the driveway? You want to watch the whole segment again? Because it's in this episode. Do you want to see the husband crying and desperately offering reward money even if it just leads him to her dead body? It's like the saddest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life where he's like, here's the reward money if she's alive. And if you can leave me to the body, here's this lesser amount of reward money. And then you just want to cry yourself to sleep. Yeah, that's great. They were making me relive that unsolved mysteries. So our last segment is a very quick.
special alert there's like an american there's two in this episode i mean one is something we've already seen but this one is like yeah america's most wanted we are looking for some robert's dad calls them a marauding street game literally two people who rob pizzerias calm down at another point he calls them the pizza bandits what i think is hilarious i missed that somehow it makes it sound like they're stealing pizzas yeah i picture like i don't know like cartoon rats yeah we're the pizza bandits um this is always like a warning like if you own a pizzeria in this area you're probably gonna get robbed that seems like the more the point of this segment like watch out Robbery's coming your way. Police are searching for six to eight men who are responsible for at least 29 pizza restaurant robberies in Vallejo and other cities in Northern California since August 1991. The robberies typically occur between 9 and 11 p.m. near closing time. This means that the restaurant is usually almost empty and the cash register is almost always full. It is believed that the group works in rotating teams of two. The robberies usually last about two to three minutes. Sounds like a very professional operation, two to three minutes. They've got a lot of practice. At this point, they've done like...
30 pizzerias. There's got to be so many pizzerias in this area. This is a pretty populous area, I guess. Do you think they ever took some of the pizzas so that they didn't have to make dinner? Like they're robbing the cash register and you're like, this pizza's like ready. They just throw the extra pizza out at the end of the night, right? I mean, come on. Yeah, you might as well just take it. Maybe they are pizza bandits after all. The robbers have used specific language and terms during the robberies, such as the number 187, which is the penal code for murder. I think at some point they're like, hey, we don't want this to turn into a 187. Like they're like, you know, stick to robbing. No murders. This sounds like a very professional operation to me.
They know the codes. They're out in two to three minutes. They rotate so that other people can get rest, I guess. I don't know. They work in shifts? Yeah. It sounds like they get PTO. I have some respect for these pizza bandits. So they're typically wearing ski masks. They do usually bring guns, but at this point they haven't actually hurt anyone. It seems like they're trying not to. I mean, if you're like a teenager selling pizza, like how hard are you going to try to stop someone robbing you? You are going to just throw the cash register at them. You're going to be like, does this mean I can clock off early? You guys want a pizza too? We're just throwing these away. Breadsticks? Dipping sauce?
So they also appear to know the layouts of their targets ahead of time. Police believe that the men are part of a local gang, which is nicknamed the Romper Room Gang. That's the worst name I've ever heard. They'd be better off being called the Pizza Bandits. Oh, and then they could get satin jackets with pizzas on them. See, we always got to think about the outfits. I realize gangs don't really do that, obviously, but I kind of wish that they would. Have people thought about having a more West Side Story styling to their gang?
or is there literally the opposite of a reason to do that um society is about to collapse do we need to become a marauding street gang and get i think everyone will the warriors everybody will pick their like theme yeah and then they'll drop oh we're gonna have to think what our theme is before the post office is completely gone we need to order some jackets on etsy yes i'm all for it i love a satin jacket goes with everything All right. So the update is that at least two members of the gang were captured in 1992. They were arrested for several pizza restaurant robberies. They were also arrested for several bank robberies. Their more gang members were later arrested and charged for pizza robberies. I like that Unstop Ministries didn't give a shit about those bank robberies. They were only concerned about the pizza robberies. Protect our pizzerias. Well, there's a certain charm and ring to pizza bandit. Bank robber. Ho hum. Heard about that. Pizza bandit.
That's new. The identities of the robbers were not revealed in the update in the episode, but on Self-Mystery's wiki says that rapper Andre Hicks, also known as Mac Dre, was allegedly one of the members of the Romper Room Gang. In 1992, he was convicted of conspiracy to commit robbery and sentenced to five years in prison and was released in 1996. Five years for conspiracy to commit robbery? Man. That's tough. That's kind of a lot. So, there's that. That's the special alert. The Pizza Bandit alert.
Yeah, Robert Stack wants to make sure if you're eating pizza late at night, you know, be safe. Be safe. Don't get robbed. That's the episode. I can't believe that's the whole episode. Yeah, well, most of it was updates we've already seen. Packaged food, and when you open it up, you're like, this chip bag is only like a third full. That's a good analogy. That's how this episode is. Chip bag is mostly air. There has to be more to this. And then somehow you go to break the KitKat, but there's only one. And you're like, what the hell?
is this one of those avocados that are like all pit yeah so disappointing all right very disappointing so mysteriousness not that mysterious america is a terrorist uh what else what else do we talk about mysterious babe is not a mermaid disappointing guy grew pot you know who he is yeah guy grew pot couldn't be less mysterious this might be one of the least mysterious things we've talked about not mysterious pizza bandits guys want money and possibly also pizza not mysterious um reenactments I will say they did blow up a van. That's true. That's true. And they got a hot babe to rescue someone from the sea. So, we've seen worse. That's true. Pumped up, I guess. Sideways. I don't know. Is an exploding van worth it? I mean, that's a decent amount of production value, but it's only one segment. It's only one thing. So, okay, it comes sideways. Sideways. Fashion, though. Man, oh, man.
If you're looking for like a realistic way people dressed in the early 90s, it was not all neon leg warmers. That's like special, right? That's a special occasion look. People weren't always wearing that. This is a very realistic portrayal.
of the turtlenecks and puffy paint shirts oversized suits yeah there's the the vfw party is really a time capsule of everyday clothes just just everyday a normal person middle america attire of you know not what was on like tv what people were actually wearing buying from their local kmart or sears or something this episode has i have to say yeah so so suits at this time so baggy What always comes to mind is Con Air. John Cusack in Con Air, even though it's a little bit later. That suit, he's like swimming in it. It like ripples in the wind. It's so big because clothes were so baggy. But you see Stack, his suits, they fit in the shoulders so good. Perfectly tailored. His tailoring is impeccable. And he's not going to let the 90s ruin that. I respect it. I respect it a lot. So Stack, thumbs up just for that. Also for telling us who John Lennon is. Thanks, Robert Stack.
Thumbs up. All right. So on our Robert Stack scale of 0 to 5 Robert Stacks, I don't know. Is this like a 2.5? Is this a 3? It's like not even worth mentioning. It's like almost not worth rating. It's like a non-event. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't watch this one again. I'll probably forget about it. This is definitely one of those episodes that I will forget about. Yeah. Oh, for sure. It's like the most inconsequential product from Amazon.
paperclips and then you kept getting emails like how would you rate your recent purchase and you're just like i don't know it's paperclips like who cares that's this episode yeah i kind of agree so is that like a two two and a half yeah it's like it's new it's like you don't hate it enough to remember it but you definitely don't like it it's just a thing yeah i agree You know, Lenny is asleep on the floor right now, and I feel like that is an appropriate reaction to this episode. I do kind of feel like I need a nap, but we still have to give our recommendations. OK, I guess I can do that since it's required by law. Oh, I have a like side recommendation first. Say you're like me and you have bangs and also you can't leave the house. Right. It's a problematic company. Many a hairdresser tell you not to cut your own bangs. Right. Because you're going to try to even them out. You're going to go up too much on one side. You're going to end up like some mustaches we've seen on the show over trimmed. I'm trying to even it out.
don't worry, I have the perfect solution. Oh. And it sounds like I'm joking. It sounds like I'm setting up a joke, but I'm not. I saw this old ad for Scotch Tape that showed you a child with tape across the bang, and it was like, and now you just cut across the tape. Guess what? That works perfectly. Oh, nice. Also, all the hair is stuck to the tape, so you don't even make a mess.
Just peel it right off your forehead. That's genius. It really is. You literally tape your bangs to your face, having the edge of the tape where you want to trim. You just follow along with a scissor. If you have a blunt bang cut like me, if you have lazy Betty Page bangs, or even if you're willing to have them while you're home in quarantine because you don't want to grow out your bangs, you just go along that tape. Brilliant. Perfect. I did it the other day for the second time. Looks great. I've had professionals cut my bangs and it not look as good as this. I might never pay for a bang trim again. I'm impressed. So thanks, old ad for scotch tape that I saw on the internet and everybody was laughing at. And then someone said, oh no, I really do this and it works. I tried it.
Okay. My actual recommendation is an artist and designer that goes by, I don't know how I'm supposed to say this, Art Attack? A-R-T-E-T-A-K? Art Attack? I think her real name is Kate Logan. She's an artist and designer. And I'm bringing her up because I recently ordered a couple things for our podcast because Friend of the Pod Arden sent me an image of a Barbie dream house that said, come back with a warrant. And I went, yes, I need this in my life. And so I immediately ordered both me and Samantha a prismatic sticker with that image on it. Oh my God, so good.
i also got for the podcast this is all business supplies i'll have you know uh this memo paper of an adorable mothman it's like purple and it has this cute little mothman on the bottom so now we can send that out with our patreon things so good so i think i've been aware of this artist for a long time because she makes a cute like baphomet image that i get see used a lot but i never but i never ordered anything before until i desperately needed these come back with the warrant stickers and they have a bunch of cute stuff and i'm probably gonna have to get more now there's barbie driving a pink car saying fuck the police like Everyone needs that. Yeah, you can get a beret with a little devil goat on it that says hail yourself. I mean, this stuff is so good. A sticker that says drink water, you stupid idiot. I need that. Mac's trying to sneak into the room right now. That was actually very sneaky, Mac. If I hadn't said anything, no one would know. So that is my recommendation. You can find this at shopartattack.com. And there's prints, there's stickers, there's, you know, all that stuff. The sticker is high quality. I have mine on my laptop. I'm looking at it right now. I put it on a like caboodly thing I use for crafts.
I just love seeing it there. Oh, I could get a fuck the police sticker too. Why didn't I do that? Oh, and to go along with this episode, you can get a sticker of the Chuck E. Cheese mouse that says mechanical rat pizza. And it's referred to as the child casino sticker. So if you would like to celebrate the pizza bandits, perhaps that Chuck E. Cheese is a child casino. It really is. Except there's a ball pit. Those are never coming back, right? Oh, no, definitely not. That's just like a germ filled. It's just a germ pit is really what it is. Yeah, you're just throwing your child into a pit of germs.
Yeah. Anyway, I don't know that mechanical pizza rat will survive the pandemic, but you can celebrate the memory of the pizza bandits. All of this stuff is so cute. Really well done. Yeah, I'm very much enjoying my sticker. So if you need something to throw your money away on, I can't really think of a better way to burn it. I agree. And what is your recommendation, dear Samantha? I'm recommending a book I finished recently. Oh, la-di-da. I haven't finished a lot of books since the pandemic started. I don't know why I said that, but just the idea of having the attention span to read a book. I was like, oh.
Someone is so well educated. Well, first of all, I listened to this book on audio. So sitting down to read a book, I don't have the attention span to do that. But I guess I recommend this audio book. It was very good. The narrator was very nice. This is a nonfiction book called The Great Pretender, the undercover mission that changed our understanding of madness. This is by Susanna Callahan.
Kalan? I'm certain I pronounced her name. I'm really bad at pronouncing names. It's something that I've discovered about myself in doing this podcast. She wrote a book that you may recognize called Brain on Fire. She was misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia when she...
came underneath this like very severe psychosis suddenly and it ended up that she had um encephalitis she had brain inflammation that was causing this and she was almost institutionalized because doctors were like well it's schizophrenia we don't know send her to an institution and there was one doc i haven't read brain on fire because this book is not about her story necessarily um but she talks about it a little bit in the beginning um and i guess there was one doctor that was sort of like something else is going on here we need to dig a little bit deeper and basically discovered that she had um this inflammation of the brain and she went on to write about her her experience because it was very frightening um you know dealing with that um so that's that book brain on fire which i might read because she's a very good she's an excellent author um i really enjoyed this book so i think i might read that one as well this though is the story she as a result of this She went on to write the book. She does speaking engagements, things like that. She became interested in the history of the way we have treated severe mental illness in the United States, specifically institutions. And this led her to become fascinated by this study by this Stanford psychologist named David Rosenhan. In the 1970s, he did this very famous study where he sent fake, they call them pseudo patients, fake patients into various institutions, these inpatient treatment facilities for.
people who have severe mental illnesses. And they basically presented with certain symptoms and pretended to be, they basically set out to try and get diagnosed with schizophrenia and get admitted. And then he wrote this paper about it. And there, it wasn't the thing that changed our treatment of mental illness in the United States. There was, the ball was already rolling. There was anti-psychology, it was sort of an anti-psychology movement. Other, you know, the lobotomy was coming under question. There was a lot of things that precipitated. I don't know how you could question just shoving an eyesight into someone's head. Yeah, imagine.
Imagine that. But it definitely contributed a great deal to like basically our lack of a mental health institution today. And I really enjoyed it. I didn't expect this book to have a mystery element. I don't want to give anything away, but there is a, there's a sort of a plot almost. There is a storyline. There's twist and turns. The author does sort of, there's very little is known about him. Essentially. He didn't reveal the names of his pseudo patients. He passed away.
He was going to write a book that he never finished, and he was actually sued by his publisher for not finishing it. So there's very little was known about it. So she sort of set out to figure out, like, what is this guy's deal? Like, what was up with this? And she becomes sort of very almost obsessed with it, all that sort of thing. This investigation happens. And she writes about it in the book. It's very, very good. It's very well written, very fascinating.
What she uncovers. Like I said, there's a mystery that I wasn't expecting. I really enjoyed it. It sounded really good. I've been in a bit of a reading slump. I just look at my Goodreads and nothing interests me. But this was recommended to me by our friend Heather, who I think might be listening. Thank you, Heather, for this recommendation. I'm going to pass the recommendation to the rest of the five because I really enjoyed this book. Yeah. I know a lot of our listeners like me are really into nonfiction, so I really recommend it. Yeah, that sounds good. That's a good recommendation. Okay. I think that brings our episode to a close. Unless there's anything you just want to get off your chest. No.
No, same. I'm already thinking about my Animal Crossing island. I'm already checking. I'm already putting my card in the slot to check out. Did you buy turnips this week? No. Okay. So Arden, our friend of the pod Arden, is like a billionaire. She's so good at Animal Crossing. She was born to play Animal Crossing. So the other week she just came to my island and paid off my last loan. Amazing. So really, I have no need.
I have no need of the stock market anymore. Have you like moved your villagers house? That is what cost me the most bells out of anything I've done in this stupid game is moving every building. And then what will happen was I would like move like my, I spent like 50,000 bells to move my shop somewhere and then decide that it didn't quite fit with what I was trying to do. And then I'd have to spend another 50,000 bells to like move it just a little bit to one direction. Took up so much time. Actually. Yeah. So if you have to move something just a little, do you have to move it somewhere completely different? And then.
i never had to move it just like one square i moved it like a jump but i think probably you might have to do that that would be terrible if you just had to move it like a tiny bit to the left i know people like completely overhaul their islands and do all this terraforming and stuff but i just don't i don't really see me doing that i don't know maybe i'll get some grand vision i kind of like it though i don't like how it is who knows anyway why are we talking about this oh it's time to go we're done let's plug our shit perhaps it's you we are on the twitter the instagram there's a facebook group there's a zoo You guessed it, an Animal Crossing group spinoff. We have a website, perhaps it's you.com, that has our recommendations that I may or may not have updated, that has a contact thing, that has all of our good stuff. It has just great pictures of us looking awesome. I mean, what more could you want? Honestly, check it out. If you are thinking about giving us a two-star review, but think instead, I think I'm going to email them, don't do that. Instead, give us a five-star review. You can put your criticism in there. Just make sure it's five stars.
Yeah, exactly. We only accept five-star reviews. If you have the app Podcast Addict, which is how I listen to podcasts, they didn't pay me to mention that. I'm bringing it up because they now have their own reviews because I don't have an iPhone. I can't leave iTunes reviews, but I can leave reviews through that. So that's another way to do it. What else is there? Oh, Patreon. You're going to want to give us at least a dollar. I don't know, maybe $10 to our Patreon because we are discussing the Unsolved Mysteries reboot. This month, we will be doing episodes two and three. And we already did one and two. So you can listen to that. There's like 30-some episodes there. That's a big deal.
Yeah. And if you give us $5, you get a coloring sheet every month. And that's the email. So if, you know, yeah, if the post office is done for you. Right. You'll definitely get that. And last month was, we had a guest artist do crafts in the past. No, crimes in the past were just crafts. It's an amazing color sheet. Oh, it's so good. Okay. Is that everything? I think so. I think it is. Oh, if you want to send us a spooky story of something that happened to you, or perhaps you had a psychic dream, or you saw a ghost, or a demon, or, I don't know, you went to Bob Mackey's Music World, you should email us at perhapsitsupodcast at gmail.com.
do it yes okay so americans you gotta stay home you can solve mysteries from your couch but that's it uh other people living in a more civilized place maybe you can get out and solve some mysteries i don't know everybody else just keep working bye