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S5 EP21: Andor EP6: The Start of a Revolution

from Radio Rebellion: A Star Wars Podcast · host Alberto M Calderon

We reached the end of the Aldhani arc as Cassian and crew pull off the heist orchestrated by Luthen Rael. Let's talk about the casualties. Our friend, Moe, joins us to talk themes, Skeen's betrayal, and will Nemik's manifesto push Cassian to join the fight for real. Sauron revealed himself in The Rings of Power finale and the Stranger showed us the importance of having a good sense of smell. In House of the Dragon, King Viserys and Daemon make amends and season 1 of She-Hulk comes to a very meta end. Help for Puerto Rico: Siempre Contigo: https://t.co/sCjupinyZr Sin Limites PR: https://t.co/aoNXIIWsrb Multiple foundations can be found at: https://t.co/8LVZFinKKX The Amidala Initiative for Equality Texas: https://t.co/RRhzwk30gb National Network of Abortion Funds: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/supportabortionfunds?refcode=nnafwebsite What Choice? Fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/what-choice?qid=5b49096693ff9ee897f9d0db8643c1fa Follow Moe https://twitter.com/jynmystardust Follow Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars

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I have not read it. It's sitting somewhere over there and it's my fault not Amazon because it got here quite fast. Yay! Yay!

Corporations! Mo, how you doing? And your cat back there? Okay, that's Ben Solo.

Right there. That's Ben Solo, nice. Of course. We found him.

Ben Solo. I mean, we found Sarban, we found Gando. We found Ben Solo. Yeah, we found him.

He said that. Come on, dude. He's there. Oh, that's like...

Oh, let's see if I can do it. Yes, Otis got to leave a few minutes early, so I don't want to rush anyone, but we'll see how he goes. Let's go! Alright, so I forgot about this last time.

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It's always nice reading those. I got a new one last week. So thank you to everyone. Still listening to our audio podcast.

Yeah, so always, you can. I mean, that'll be the first quality text that the National Network of Operation Funds, so they watch Choice Fundraiser and help for Puerto Rico if you can. All those links are down in the description of this video and also in the description of the audio podcast from your listen to it on Spotify, Encore, Apple Podcasts, all those. It's there, so anything helps.

Alright, let's go ahead. Before Mo, how are you doing any Star Wars adventure for you since it's been a while since we've had you here on our show? It has. Yeah.

No Star Wars adventures. I don't think I haven't been on the podcast since I went to the Andor premiere. I think that's the only Star Wars adventure that I went through. I went through it.

Yeah, that was that experience. It was fantastic. It was me and my other friend that got invited last minute. And apparently everyone else had been on a mailing list for a few weeks.

So we were so out of place, but we did not care. We made everything I've experienced. Oh, I'm sure it's so happy that you got to go. And a lot of people that got to go, but we know how big I find you have Rokwan and all that.

So I'm so happy for you. Any famous people sightings? Yeah, I ran into Erin Kellyman. We talked to her for a bit.

We were saying that, like, he was in his nest bag and she was like, she was honestly shocked that people knew her for these roles. I saw Daniel Logan. And he looked at me and he was like, have we met before? I would know.

See, that's why you found out no one found there on the OT. Exactly. And I met Diego after a bit. Such a such a such a such a such a such a Congratulations.

I'm sure it was a lot of fun. You it seemed fun and all your posts that you put on Twitter everywhere out there. OT, we mentioned earlier, like two minutes ago that you have to leave early. What?

Why? Why? Why? So check this out.

So I was on this calling Twitter and the Salasim Fonega like the Puerto Rico, something I guess like they posted this like, oh, Puerto Rico is going to join John Williams in celebrating his 90th birthday. And as you may or may not know, he's on tour celebrating his 90th birthday. So but that was the message. So nobody knew what was going on.

I was like, is John Williams coming to Puerto Rico? Is this like happening? So the minute the tickets went online, I got in and the given had no description. It was just like John Williams, 90th birthday anniversary or concert and I was like, okay, so when I got to the tickets, they were $25.

Okay, I was like, definitely not like cheaper than they are on the US, but not $25 versus like what it would probably cost. So I was like, you know what, I'm already hyped up. Let me buy the tickets. The Puerto Rico symphony is actually really good.

So I'm excited. So it's like a tribute concert to John Williams. But for like, for like a span of two weeks, I thought I was going to see John Williams. So close, so close.

Oh man, but still that's gonna be awesome. My brother lives there in Puerto Rico. No, he's a huge star was spent. Sorry.

My brother-in-law, my brother-in-law, this story, my brother-in-law, and he's going to feel those and some day, bring people dressed up as Darth Vader as Boba Fester, and Trooper-in-law. It's in the whole production. So yeah, I'm excited to hear like everything like, well, of course, I went like main star was, but I went here and did on John, Superman, E.T. That's a car.

Jurassic Park. Oh my God, I'm gonna cry there. I'm gonna try not to have a drink. Because yeah.

All right. So I did finish Battle De Seat that I mentioned last week that I saw, I finished it, I haven't done my review online, just I had the time. Enjoy the book, very cool characters, Desa Grandon and Justin Ireland did a great job bringing that story to life. The only thing, I don't know if that was the best story to kind of start phase two.

The last 80 pages, like, oh, okay, I know now what this is going on. That's my only thing. Maybe a different story, but anyways, I feel really good read. So I was shocked to see that they're starting the era with the YA, and not against the YA, but usually it's like the novel still like the broader story.

So that was interesting for me. Yeah, have you read it more or? No, I'm so behind on. I'm still on Into the Dark.

That's a great one. Yeah. I like the Star Wars YA books. They're all the ones that I read are really good.

Yeah, my favorite, I think most of my favorite ones are YA books and this is one, and this is not a love story, but almost there's a lot of romance. And that sounds weird, but the main characters are in this journey to fall in love. One is a Jedi, one is someone from the path of the open hand. No spoilers because you learned really early that they don't share the same belief.

So how the force should be used, if at all, and that kind of driving the whole story. And then the last 80 pages gets more kind of, oh, okay, I know now why this is important. But those first 280 pages or whatever is more of a slow book. So that's why I wasn't sure it's the best one to start.

But it's a pretty cool story. It fits right in the high republic. So you're not like, oh, this doesn't feel like it fits. They got to put this book in phase one, and you wouldn't notice.

So check it out. I will do a full review later. All right. So if you guys are ready, I'm not ready.

Let's talk Star Wars and the andor files. I've been in this fight since I was six years old. Hazy? We don't know.

Maybe. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it as long as that's like the audio clip you put. I'm always gonna do it.

So it's there. So you get ready for the next issue. It's it's it's it's good fun. Yes.

Who's there in the chat? It's our friend. Let me just highlight real quick. Dale is here.

How are you doing? Dale? Thanks for it was waiting early. Thanks for joining us.

Dale, we almost started early. I just forgot to send a link to everyone. But we're here. All right, Mo as our guest.

I want to start with you as always kind of just how you've been feeling with the series so far coming into episode six, this kind of last episode of this aldani arc, and then just your overall thoughts about this episode. I was like, you're not biased. I think it's fantastic. Yeah.

I love I love this arc. I liked the two episode build up because this episode was just like it starts and then it's a ride the whole way through. I think this might be the best one of the series so far. And it's beautiful that it's like right in the middle like the best episode right in the middle of the series.

I thought the character development was good even though we've lost quite a few of them. But you know what my favorite movie is, Rob? I'm used to it. I'm nothing that I'm not accustomed to.

Othi, we remember when under was announced and we got the two minute clip. It had not been the same but kind of that feature read two and a half years ago or three years ago. And they go, I said this is the beginning of the revolution. You can say that this episode basically is starting that we're starting the revolution now.

Overall thoughts on the episode ought to be for we're going to a bit more specifics. Yeah, so when Galadriel takes the oh, okay. Sorry. No, I love this episode.

You know, I was a little bit skeptical going to the show. My feelings towards Rogue One are not negative but they're not as positive as most of Star Wars. But I've been very happy so far and this episode just drove it home. I was almost out of words when we started doing it.

We do the review very shortly after watching the episode. So I was still like wrapping my head around everything and it was fantastic, yeah. I might have sounded a little bit, not end your matter on Twitter a few days ago posting, I didn't care that I'm joking. I love I like Nemic.

I just didn't feel that and we get to rinse the power. I got emotional. I felt that hit. I didn't see him coming back from that one.

When I watched it for something, I just watched it two hours ago. I had this in reaction. But yeah, now I go ahead. I just want to say I really enjoyed this episode.

My chest was tight for those 40 minutes. How intense and tense it was. The tension was palpable. So in that regard, yes, the build of the two episodes before was great.

Just because like you said, when it starts, it starts. We go with we're done waiting. And yeah, the grass survive. But we don't know who.

It was a very intense episode for my emotions. But before we go again too much, let's talk about the visuals. We've talked about the visuals before on the right and all that. But in this episode, come on the eye, Daniel, the meter showers going, the Thai fighters getting ready to go out.

But just visually more. You're kind of not excited. But again, this is something new for Star Wars. We haven't seen especially in the TV shows, these quality of visuals.

My mouth was like the whole time. It was so good. The part with the Thai fighters, I don't know why I'm so scared of Thai fighters. Like this series makes me so scared of them.

And then like just seeing them drop into their into the ties and like, you know, they're trying to escape. It just look beautiful. And that's such a cool concept of just like all these meteor showers are coming in Star Wars. Like, I love that.

It looks so good. Yeah, I was not afraid because whatever we don't know what's gonna happen. But when the first one goes by, it's like, she hasn't started. Yeah.

Like, that's it. One every five minutes. But then we get the big reveal. But yeah, what's going to do for later about all the other else, Thai fighters that Thai pilots getting ready, jumping to the Thai fighters.

We really don't see that. We see people getting ready for the X wings and how the cap is down. Thai fighters, we see a little bit of the inside. But here it's like, no, it's scary that way they're getting ready.

But even then I not want like the same with the next one. I want just let's follow up pilot getting in and just turning on. Let's get that. But I agree.

And I think we talked about this in the last episode, but how they've recontextualized the Thai fighter, how it's usually just like cannon fodder for the X wings. And now here's like, we got one, now we got, you know, only three. And they're scary because our heroes are not Jedi. They're not on the father.

Han Solo's not gonna come in the same today, at least with things. But it's been very, very interesting how they've used things that we know in a slightly different way. And it works. And that's just such a Star Wars fan thing.

Like, oh, we had never seen them get on the cockpit. It's like, okay, sure. But I was excited. And turning it on and the screen turns on and footage this button.

I don't know. It felt like, oh, okay, we got to take them serious. It was a build up to that and then the shot of them. And then just like, I'll come see air command.

You're like, oh, no. Yeah, no, man, it was it was great. Again, like you said, yeah, Thai fighters, there is a demo that's basically about this series just in one or three have put that fear in every one every time I worked at the university and we have the hospital next to it. So there's the helicopter that takes patients that just flies by three times a day.

Every time is flying by low on the whole crap is a Thai fighter. So no, no, okay. By the way, let's go to the chef for us. Yeah.

One medalist. Oh, one episode six amazing. So excited to hear this question. And we have one.

Amy Guerra on the side. Amy Guerra. Yeah, thank you for joining us. Amy, as always.

So Empire's treatment of the Danny, the people of all Danny. We've known we kind of yeah, they used to have this valley now. They're not here. Colonization, whatever.

Well, here we see actual treatment first, just the command dance and everyone else talking down to them. But then talking about, oh, yeah, there used to be 15,000 that came up here. Now there's just 150 and through this whatever six day trek or three week trek, there's only 50 now. Yeah, my next time they won't even be here.

And then they stink and all these are like, oh, man, they just keep hammering on it. Otee, how is we already hate the Empire? Well, this kind of pushes the needle a little bit deeper. I mean, you can't escape the colonization of it all.

And there is a specific scene when they talk about how they manipulate them. And then, oh, and the remaining ones will just put them to work. And man, that kind of home, because you, I don't want to get to like deep into like real world stuff, but like you see parallels to, you know, in my experience to the relationship with Puerto Rico and the US, how, you know, the colonization and how Puerto Rico's like slowly but surely like getting empty, like 10 years ago, we were five, four million, now we're three. And you know, there's like a very real worry about people just leaving and professionals just getting out of here.

So that like hit very, very home for me. So I was, the writing on this episode was just sensational from the dialogue to how everything is structured around the I thing. I'm sure we'll get to that. But yeah.

Right, I will come back to that point. I mean, well, the parallels of people leaving but more same kind of thought process for the way the empire treats the poor people of all Danny, then when they gather, they get, they will just give them the the sheep belt and it's like at least for three more years. And then they just burn it because they know it's an empty gesture. How again, at some point they want us to feel not sorry for the empire, but kind of empathize with a few characters from the other end.

It's very blatant, what they're doing. I just love how like the native just like hate them. And it's like so apparent, like they just in their facial expressions. And then like when they're giving each other the palates, like it just seems like, all right, just give it to them.

So we could just keep going on. And then I forget the line specifically that Gorn doesn't translate. But that was such a good line. Like our ghosts, like they don't forget.

We don't forget what you did and like how you drove us out of our land. Like so good. I love that moment when the leader looks at Gorn like I know I'm not even translate. Yeah, it was it was great.

Cause like you mentioned, artists, they said, oh, we just went little kind of checkpoints along the way with very cheap drink. So they can get drunk and forget about this. So they don't make it up here. And then at the end, when this engineer, I guess, Petigar, we was and wasn't the engineer, we were hoping for it.

And I'll say, oh, but we'll be able to be here again or will they help us kind of expand and then they won't have a choice because eventually they'll have to come work for us. I was watching about two days ago, something David Becknow, this reporter that goes to Puerto Rico, talking to some medical students in Puerto Rico, my brother, who lives in Puerto Rico, his doctor, he was one that he stayed, he's still there. But talking about 20 medical students that all of them want to stay in the island, but saying how bad they're treated from the federal government is that how Medicare doesn't pay anything on the island compared to the states. And that even though they don't want to live in two or three years, they might all have to live.

So it's kind of that same thing that, yeah, the way they're treating the island, the way sometimes the state streets, the Puerto Ricans, they have to move and have to have their lives over there. It's kind of, we try not to get too much into real world part of the small thing. I don't got to say what I was going to say. I remember like five years ago, I was reading this article about how Puerto Ricans are the like the jurisdiction or the state in the US that has the most prepared professional class, the working class in Puerto Rico has the most advanced degrees to say something.

Because education here is fairly cheap as you know a bit. So it was correlating that to how a lot of people are leaving for better wages than here, but maybe cheaper wages than the states are moving in. And it was how companies are being able to attract very well prepared people from Puerto Rico at a cheaper rate. And it was all around the time they were talking about the bailout and what are they going to do with the debt.

And it was like this vicious cycle. The US has no interest in fixing the problems because they're gaining something out of it. They're getting like very well prepared people over there for very cheaply. Yeah, like you said compared to Puerto Rico, when I moved here and I got offered a $10 job, I was jumping to the air.

This is the greatest thing ever. And now it's like 13 years later and the minimum wage is still 7 something and people are fighting to get 15 maybe three years from now and then you can't even afford that. Thankfully here the minimum wage one up. It's not 7 anywhere.

Yeah, well, it sucks. Anyway, this isn't 60 minutes or I already for it. We're not going to get into all that. But we could.

Yeah, I found the quote. It's tell them our ghosts have strong hands and long memories. That's just such a good one. Yeah.

And Juan is a nice brain drain a whole lot of colonial tactic. Yes. So we learned because we haven't we knew supposedly that skin was fighting for his dead brother in the pandemic fighting for the cause. Cassian is a hired gun.

We didn't know what Teramin was his reason for fighting. He will learn he's an ex-stone trooper. Were you surprised to hear that more? I love well, I I think like Star Wars.com they released like each of the character cards.

So I knew that before going into but I love that we have these defectors like working trying to tear down the empire from within. I love that story. Yeah, it was a great surprise for myself and we're starting to see a little bit more these kind of stone to empire defectors which is kind of keeps building that law in Star Wars. But all the any idea that this might be the way that we're going or what you surprised by.

I had no idea. I was like, Oh, interesting. And then the tension between like Sinta and Teramin because of that because I was killed by stormtroopers. Like that was it.

Was he a part of the company that killed her family? I don't think so. I think it's just like she just has resentment for stormtroopers. And then the fact that he was one was yeah, I can't wait now to go back and watch the first episode of this arc to see their interaction to see if we can see any of that.

I don't think there is no big call to see that. But then we learn also that valance thing that they have their own separate part of the mission. We kind of learned a little bit about it last time but here they're hiding in this rock or whatever hideout stormtrooper or not stormtrooper. One of the garrison comes takes a leak right there which I didn't notice at first.

First time we see someone peeing Star Wars. Did that took you out? I didn't know. You're fucking out.

We never were back to it before. So that's fine. Yeah, that's right. But no more copa buzz though.

No more copa if we didn't get to a chance to see Cyril Khan still trying to eat that same bowl for three days. We'll get a lot of them for next episode. I'm sure. But we get with Val and Sinta.

They go under the water. Another great shot of them with that little swoobang getting there. Val kind of not get not freezing but kind of the way I saw it was once we do this, it's on and we can't turn back and that kind of hesitation. Did you see that same way more?

Do you think thoughts were second on maybe she might just freeze and Sinta might have to take over? I don't I think it was just she was trying to process everything because at this point like in the mission they are like behind on time. Yeah. And I think that was a lot of pressure for her.

And in that moment she knows that like once I give him the signal we there's no turning back. We are we are doing this. And I like actually that they they gave us that small moment because it you only see Val as like this leader of the rebel cell like she's very courageous. She's strong.

And then you kind of see her just have a human moment of like oh shit. Yeah. No, it was great because once that happens she's back on point and she's directing traffic and pointing guns at people's head and giving another great language I forget it's either we know I don't know what she says. There's only one way and if we don't win then everyone dies or something.

But Otty from that scene and then when the highest kind of starway and Tarameen, Skin, Cassian and Nemek is taking the family back and then just kind of like the next time hostage and I saw a very bad take on Twitter that someone said I listen for another took a kid's hostage. We know that bad. I'm like I got it. I got it.

The whole plan about it's okay. They held the entire galaxy. It's fine. It's fine.

I'm tracking down for sensitive kids. Yeah. It's fine. So I'd read to something you mentioned at the beginning the tension of this episode and thinking about it.

I think that a big part of it is that we don't know what's happening. Yeah. We don't because usually in this kind of story in Blackbusters we usually get that moment when they go over the planet. Oh, you're gonna be here and this is the escape.

We had no idea what's going on. We knew Val and Sinta were gonna do their own thing. These four had to do some training and they were gonna steal some money and they had to get the ship or something out of a ramp. That was it.

What? The Roanow. Yeah, sure. The Roanow.

So at a point I realized I don't know if things are going their way. I had no idea if things are going their way or they're just improvising. That moment when they took the hostages apparently that was part of the plan but that's usually when they're getting desperate when things are not going well. So and at that moment, Tana Man was like, yo, we're running out of time.

We have to do this. And so that was awesome. And that's why I say this episode is brilliantly written because we don't know how things are supposed to be going and that helps with the tension. So when we get to that part when they have the hostages, I'm like, all vets are off.

Like, are they gonna kill them? Are they what's happening? And then when the engineer pulls out his blaster and everyone's just at gunpoint, I was like, oh my god, how they gonna get out of this? And then Sinta just comes through.

Thank God for Sinta. Yeah, even Namek's face. And I know what I said, but the actor prossuing. He looked terrified.

Like you've got a blaster pointer. So pross and like you said, we had no idea. I wrote it. How are you doing?

Right? Well, I don't know this question. I think so. I think so.

I think it's not you're welcome here. Yeah, over here. Yeah, I still waiting for one final confirmation for the finale. But that's like a month away.

Oh, we should be here. I know you bastard. But that scene was great. Because like you said, we had no idea.

Even when they're calling, oh, how are we doing on time? They say like five four or five nine, some code. I don't know what the hell it meant. So yeah, that tension was the author of the episode.

I'll say one thing I understand, what they kept calling to the al doney people, you know, we're gonna leave this when we talk more about the eye. I just, yeah, yeah, I'll done your fine. That was really the tension, I think. Yeah, really.

I kind of liked it. I like that it was like their chant. Like it's like, it's coming. The chant made me even more nervous.

Exactly. Because I thought something was gonna happen to them. I thought the Empire is gonna go nuts and it's gonna take them out or they're going to do something to derail the plan. But it's just them singing and they kept calling back to it.

And that's why nothing happened. The way I see it, the way I thought they had like that window, like the minute they stopped singing, the Empire's attention would immediately shift to them. So that's what I thought they were doing. I don't think that's what it was.

But for me, that helped with the tension. All right. It's fine. They're trying to find it.

It's fine. Anyway, so the whole group is back. They can separate again. Let's go to the vault, to the viewing chamber on the command center.

They can't get the bell center hand touch. Yeah. So it's at that point when they're going to separate and then we have a bit more confirmation because it was a throwaway line. I guess a few episodes before when they kind of said, oh, they're already sharing a blanket or something like that.

Confirmation, come back to me. We'll see each other again, which hopefully they will. We don't know. They're separated at this point.

At the end, I was like, we're sent to safe. Is she all right? Dressed us in the pre-roll that point. So I don't know.

I don't know what's going on with it. And she was like crying. They should kill everyone. She said that she doesn't know what's happening.

I don't think she would have killed everyone because she saw them leave. Actually, I think she sees them leave after like she walks out of that room. So I think these people are aware of song or are they like, this is the only way. Man, maybe all the old Daniel that don't think that people think that's what I think.

I think they're fine. I think they're fine. I think we murdered the Imperial. Yeah.

Anyway, so let's go talk to the hype. So they go down there, take over. People are just so dumb because four people coming with the command down in the middle, arms drawn, or they're playing poker or whatever. Everyone to the side, skin takes over and Taram and Josie yelling at everyone.

I was scared because he did look at a scary guy when he went into the whatever chamber with all their credits. Get him over there. What are you? I'm like, that's a lot of money, man.

Just hurry up. You don't need all that. You're gonna be there three days. That was the other thing.

Oh, go ahead. I just love that line where they get the credits open and he's just like, let's go. He was like, great delivery. He nailed it.

But that was the other thing. We had no idea how much credits it was supposed to get out of there. And there was a lot and they were going very slowly. So that again helps with attention.

Man, they weren't in the best of shape. There's only six of them. I mean, but he saw going coming down. Oh, you're hanging with this.

That was not a good one. Oh, 70 years looking for you. These surf words. Like just the shot of him like hearing Gordon's voice and he's like, what?

Yeah, I mean, it's I've been writing everything. That line when he goes like, oh, don't help them. They'll just kill us. And Bell goes like, no, that's what you would do.

I love that character. I love that character. By the way, you know, I love my imperials. I hate to do it.

I'm glad he died, but I love them. Yeah. I mean, what's wrong with this belt? I think it's true.

I'm not going to read Andrew. Andrew will be here also now jumping in with when Lauren gets here. Andrew will be a two guess that he'll be here. But I don't know.

I mean, a great kind of just tension as they're stealing all these credits. The little block that Valen Cinta food I get didn't work so well because the other guy was able to break through it. See that they were stealing because it was just laid out. Oh, we're in the vault.

We got the credits. It's working. Oh, okay. But do you think maybe going might be able to convince him when they all show down?

Oh, this is not a secret mission. What did he say? I thought they were going to pull it off. I really did.

For like a second. I think if the Commandant didn't just like knock out at that moment, it probably would have worked. I think him having a heart attack is doing like 10 minutes of physical labor in the minute. When he's screaming out his wife for not packing well the belt and now it's compressed and I think you expanded.

Oh man. Yeah. And then what I will do is it's funny because she's like, oh, I'm helping. Oh, it's on.

Oh, he's 12. He can dress himself. But you're asking how to do it. I know a lot of people like that.

Unfortunately, we must like great seeing then all hell breaks loose and the shoot out starts. And unfortunately, we lose going. We lost Tarameen. So does going die?

That he got to get shot. I don't know if he's there. We don't see him like rise up after. Okay.

Just laying there with one eye open waiting for everyone to get out. All right. I can go now. Okay.

So Amy is this up. I went to the Gorn died. And yeah. So my wife didn't notice.

Oh, that's like my only critique with this episode. Like some of the characters I'm like, what happened to them? Like Gorn sent a time. It's like pretty obvious.

But yeah. All right. So let's get to it. So they're able.

Okay. They get on the rono turn it on. They shoot out before we go into what happens. Let's talk about the eye.

We finally get the whole middle shower, the dining or chanting their subject. Everyone's looking even the imperials are looking at this spectacle. Everyone's crying. How did you like the visual?

The eye? You know, I love it. I love how like the natives and the imperials are in awe and we are as well. Like we're both watching this and I'm like, and it just a shot of like all the meteors coming up was so good.

I mean, I don't that I think I saw a tweet and it was like the eye and the hold of maneuver are like some of the top tears, stunning shots and so I was just going to say that like for me watching that was just the same as watching the hold of a word for the first time. I was like, Oh my god, this is so pretty. It was pretty. And we saw that effect that it had on the Thai fighter controls.

They don't know how to target. They don't know how to do whatever. Yeah. Well, before then, I mean, we already talked about everyone getting ready on the Thai fighters.

So we love that scene. That's right. You know, it's good when the imperials are shot. Yeah, that's right.

So we talked about the Thai fighters getting ready. How we all love that. But as soon as the the Rono kind of goes into hyperdrive, they all go flying and then unfortunately, Nami gets hit in the chest with half a ton of credits. That's probably so heavy.

I mean, it was taking them forever just to load them in there. I can imagine how heavy it was. It's like full speed just slamming against it. I think he told me to hang on.

I don't know if they if you actually hear it, but in my head, I heard like that. Yeah, it's funny. It was funny when he says hold on and he just shoots that everyone goes flying by even the body. The guy that they see goes just flying by.

But then Nami is able to he gets some adrenaline or something shocking to him to be able to speak with. Yeah, it's pretty well adrenaline. And he's giving cash and coordinates go up, go down or climb. I should say that K2 into this.

I'll just say, I'm like kind of with Alberto, like, I didn't really care that much. Like he was a good kid. Like I'll say that like, and I didn't want him to die. I liked him.

I would have liked to see him go forward, but we all knew what was going to happen. We knew it was going to happen. But like, I think the saddest part was like he was the most committed one out of everything. One of them.

But that's like part of it. Like this has to be cruel. Like I think I mentioned it last week. Like we're in a pivotal point for Cassian and for the rebellion.

So these kind of things have to happen to just like keep pushing them forward. And I don't think Nami gets the last character, the fridge for the sake of the story. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go where it says there's a body count.

So yeah, apart from Cassian and Mon Mothma, everyone's up for grabs. My poor Sarah. She will have an excellent next one. Yes, I have his entanglement with D.R.

First before we get to some imperial relationship. Some people wrote us. Maybe make a baby or something. Um, I just lost my turn.

Also, Nami. So my thing with Nami and I mean, bless the internet. I know it's there just we tweet what we want. We want to get likes or the thing is people get too attached next thing.

So this episode was the best. The finale of Shiho was the best MCU finale. This is was one of every Conrad Nami, cubed by the imperial capital. He was fighting again.

That's a bad way to go. It's like people get not too attached because in Star Wars, we all get attached to those secondary and minor characters. But again, he was there for two episodes. I think his point was to kind of get Cassian more into this rebellion.

Kind of believe in it. And that's why we see that he gets handed money first at the end. That's going to come back at some point. That's going to be Cassian's turn is that more?

I think you tweeted out and some other people that from there, maybe rebellion are built on hope is within somewhere inside there. Oh, I'm starting. I know it because it's devastating. So they're obviously going to do that.

That would suck in the best way possible. By the way, let's talk about the manifesto. Oh, man. People say five of my festivals.

Yeah, it's a word that you can get out. But anything else before we jump to kind of the end when skiing skins betrayal because apparently anything we kind of forgot to talk about. Quatpaw. Quatpaw.

Oh, yeah. He has four hands. Quatpaw. I love him.

Quatpaw. I feel like skiing is like betrayal hurts so much more because he was rooting for them before. Like he's like, no, she doesn't want to make this stop. She's going to jeopardize the mission.

And he is the reason we're here. Like you see him vouch for him. And then it just makes up a trail hurts so much more. Was his brother's story all alive?

Or was it, oh, my brother's dead. I don't care that much. Or did his brother really die at the hands of the empire? I'm kind of meeting him.

I love that leave it open. Yeah. I think I think it's true. And I think the times and the empire have made him maybe a little bit salty and maybe lose his way in a way.

Yeah. I agree. I think it's true. And then like the shot when they get into the vault and he's looking at all the credits, I don't think he knew how much they were going to go with.

And I think that really changed his motives. Yeah, there's a second when he enters before he kind of yells to everyone. They kind of, you see something that might just click. Oh, that's a lot of credits.

And even seeing someone like Nemek be like, you know, killed, almost killed by non-sensically, maybe that takes him to just like be like, yeah, no, this causes not worth it. I'll just take my money, go away, hide away and just live my life. He's for sure just like an opportunist. Yeah.

He's dead. We can leave right now. Yeah. After everything, when I watch it first time and that scene is happening, we said, oh, we got to take him to the doctor, let's build that on the contingency plan.

I was buying it. But then kind of re-watching, it's like maybe that's just his way to be able to then separate Val and Cassie and make his move. So maybe he wasn't that concerned. About Nemek is, okay, this is my way to kind of separate.

And when he's talking to Cassie, you'll take 40 million, I'll take 40 million. Do you still have difficulty once you get down to the ship? How are you just going to take 40 million? And they, oh, no, there's this moon, we'll go over there still.

But Cassie doesn't wait. He kills very liberally in this show. So you think, and by the way, I just want to mention like it's kind of true to the Star Wars themes. Like his whole thing was revenge.

And you know, as that may be a catalyst in a motivation, but if you're only driven by revenge, I don't think that's an oval cause. And it'll take you to do these kind of things because it's not real. You'll never be satisfied. So it'll lead you to maybe betray everyone around you.

So you're saying that revenge leads to the dark side? Yes. But again, Cassie doesn't wait. Finally kills him.

I thought skiing was going to die a hero, but he went the completely the other way. More. Were you surprised with Cassie and then entering the surgery suite? And instead of just confessing what happened, and let's move forward to come.

Hey, I just want my 30,000, I was promising to get out of here. Were you surprised as the way he kind of went? Not really, just because like this is not the Cassie, we don't want to go on yet. And then like, I think it was also Bell's reaction to it.

Like she's like, no, skiing wouldn't do that. He's like, so maybe I shouldn't trust you either because he definitely did. And it was just that line of like, oh, she doesn't trust me because this guy literally just tried to do this. And she's now doubting that.

And so he's like, nope, I'm taking my cut and I'm gonna leave. I'll take kind of the same feeling. Were you surprised? At least Cassie and the young kind of gifts are the Kyber crystal back.

Talk a little bit. You can trust me a little bit. Yeah. I mean, so I wasn't a shocked at all.

Like I, for me, it made sense for the character. I think now he's gonna just take that money and go out to find his sister or something. But I really wasn't that shocked with that. Yeah.

Now that you mentioned that it goes back to the beginning, which one of the reasons I knew that Neme wasn't gonna make it because he got a lot of screen time at the beginning talking with Cassie and the conversations. But when Neme said, oh, I have all these beliefs and I can't sleep, you don't believe in anything. And you sleep like a rock or a stone is all you got two things wrong there. One, the impart doesn't care about the other one.

He has a reason which is he sees, he's doing this to find his sister. So I think that's kind of a few planning to it. By the way, there's a moment in the beginning. I can't remember the line when they're talking about the role of mercenaries and the rebellion.

There's a moment that he tells him like, oh, he kind of thinks he can be complacent or something to everything. I don't remember what's the line, but I love when he looks at his look at my eyes. Do we look like complacent or something? Do I look like?

Oh, yes. Do I look like? No. Yeah.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

Talking about that day from Twitter from last week, the guy that I think was a guy that posted the one thing he doesn't like about Andor is Cassie and Andor because they're all the only comparison of compelling characters, look at that. Sorry, sorry, I'll just bring this back. I don't understand. You could watch the first episode of like the Corpos like harassing him and just his facial expression, everything, all exacting is in his face like that compelling to me.

I don't know. Yeah. All right. So talk about compelling.

We go finally back to Coruscant to the Senate with Monmouth Matt trying to convince the senators about this motion that she is proposing and there's like five cats like they sent Puerto Rico, single gatos, not paying attention, looking at something and then just walking out and then she looks down and kind of at that point, I don't know what was going on, but I'll tell you, we kind of talked about this. I think at some point that the Senate is not there. It's pretty empty. How was that thing for you?

By the way, quickly, I don't mention how he loved that, how random the shot was from Cassie and Siskin. I was shocked by that. I didn't think he was going to him. But that's the man that's my favorite little scene for this episode.

It just shows so much with so little literally. There's no one there and the people who are there are not paying attention. I think that's Monmouth, like kind of a twin sons moment. She realizing like from there, she's not doing anything.

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