The Bellians Build on Hub. And welcome to another episode of Reddy Rebel on Star Wars Park. As I forgot to unmute myself as I saw in my intro. But that's okay, we're here on a cold Star Wars Saturday, at least for us down in Florida.
It's cold. I'm sorry, I guessed. Who's up in Boston? He's even colder.
He's not Otty. Or he's as best as we could to try to place him. He's our friend Tony Figaro. One of the co-hosts of Film, Snowy, and Cluede, which is Otty's other movie park.
So Tony, thanks for joining us for the first time here on Reddy Rebel on Hub. Doing very good, very good. You know, long time listener, first time caller. So glad to be here.
No, no, we appreciate it. You reached out. We've been following each other for a while. You reached out.
I don't know. Four weeks ago or something. Hey, if you have an opening for an episode talking and you're hitting me up, we had someone that couldn't do it. I was supposed to be today, actually Andrew from Outer Rim Reads.
I'm supposed to be here last week. He got sick and couldn't make it. But we had an opening. Got you in.
So I'm glad you're here. Our friend Otty's, I don't know. It's not something he says. He's an Italy.
He's an Italy. He's a globetrotter. And he's just around the world. Yeah, just like Andrew.
Going from planet to planet. Hopefully, hopefully he'll stay out of trouble. Hopefully, he doesn't get a six-month prison sentence that goes to six years. Yeah, and then gets trapped by some weird aliens with a spider web.
Which was a great thing. But we'll get to that. Tony, again, first time here, we need to learn a little bit about you. So just give us a real quick.
What is your Star Wars story? If you remember the first time that you watched it and then, how you became enthralled in this Star Wars universe that we all love? Star Wars has been something that I feel has been in my life since I can remember thoughts being formed just as in having seen it on TV as a little kid, not really knowing what I was watching. And then later on, actually sitting down to watch them with the big hype of the prequels.
I'm an early 90s kid. So when that prequel hype started coming up, it was like, okay, let's really dive into it. I have a great Star Wars story in my history. That's that first movie that my parents went to see as a date.
Oh, it started dating in Puerto Rico in the late 70s. That was like their first date movie that they went to was to go see Star Wars. So it's kind of something that's been in my life for a long time. Like I said, when the prequels came out, I just started reading it.
I just started really delving into the history. Attack of the clones for the longest time has been something that's lived with me. Not necessarily my favorite Star Wars movie, but that Star Wars movie that really made me a fan. Just being a little kid watching that movie the first time and just my whole mind exploded.
And since then, I've just been a lifelong Star Wars fan just in every way, shape and form. Great animated fan. I have a great comic book fan. Just every medium that I can get my hands on for Star Wars.
I'm just coming to it. Yeah, yeah, we were just talking before we started the high republic phase two, the new coming out next week. It's funny, not funny, but kind of changes the perspective we have on different Star Wars eras, maybe in the 80s kid and growing up with the original trailer, I'm going through all the hate that the prequels got. They've more been doing this show and meeting younger folks, younger fans.
It's the love that they have for the prequels. And also, Attack of the Clones, a lot of people like including myself had it at the bottom of our list of favorites. But Attack of the Clones has a huge following now with everyone that grew up with the prequels. So that's great to know.
And of course, film not included is podcast that you do with our co-hosts here. All the characters a little bit about what that podcast is about, where can people at the end you can tell us where people can find it. What are you guys doing that show? So it's really just a review and discussion podcast about movies, television, comic books, video games, a little bit of everything.
And it's for a Spanish listening crowd, we do it all in Spanish, but we try to be open for as many people as we can and talk about a little bit of everything. It actually started with the last Jedi coming out. That was the first episode we ever did. And that's where Auti just called me up.
And I was like, hey, man, we always talk about movies. Every time we go see a movie, we're just texting each other, we're calling each other, and we're talking about that. Why don't we just record it? So that's literally what we did.
And we've been doing it since then. We are literally as old as the last Jedi. That's another one. Talking about movies that can be a little bit divisive.
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Thanks for joining us today. We have one new question at the end. We'll answer your question. Mo, I have to think about it.
I'm still not sure about my answer. And our friend Nick, who's in the house. Thanks for joining us again this week, Nick. And then he's also adding that in 20 years, we'll be keep from whom Star Wars is Rogue One and under.
That's very true. And the home man, that's gonna be something 20 years. Who knows which Star Wars is at that point. Someone said, my first Star Wars, when I was casting an Andor, getting caught in that net by those weird aliens.
Oh, yeah, really? And they were great. They really were. All right.
So if you guys are ready, I don't know. Let's talk Star Wars and the Andor files. I've been in this fight since I was six years old. Has he?
I mean, has he definitely has. That's his story. The whole growing up in this kind of Separatist war world, right? But has he?
Because he wasn't five in the first couple episodes when they showed us him in that weird planet that I always forget the name. I forgot already. It was like 12 or something. At least.
I mean, I would say at the youngest 10 maybe? Yeah. That's very young still, but not five. Come on.
Yeah. I mean, six. But I was talking to, I think it was Andres from 60 minutes and he said, well, maybe he wasn't in the rebellion or that type of five. But the Empire or the Republic at that point, I don't know, time gaps in my mind.
They took over his planet. They were mining it. So in a sense, it's been part of this change in the Republic and the galaxy. So we'll give it to him.
Yeah. All right. So before we start kind of diving into the episode, Tony, can you just give us a little bit, just overall so far, coming into the series where you excited for it was announced? And then how much have you been enjoying it or not enjoying it?
And then we'll jump into this 11th episode. Sure. I mean, when it was first announced, I was, I mean, I am still a pretty big Rogue One fan. I really enjoyed the film.
And I think it was just a different way of storytelling in the Star Wars world. So I was very excited, but the real thing that I was mostly excited about was just more Diego Luna. I love when my Latin compatriots can just rise up in these huge franchise worlds that are mostly dominated by these white American actors. So it's always just good to know that these people get the chance to tell their story too.
So that really got me excited. And then the Tony Gilroy element, I honestly was very excited. I come from a film background. I studied filmmaking and Tony Gilroy has been somebody that I have followed in the past, his writing, his green writing, his storytelling.
And it was a bold choice. It's somebody very different to take on this world. So that really hadn't been excited. I was a bit hesitant at the beginning, but it caught me fairly on those, that first episode in particular, just really like just grabbed me and I've been writing the Andor wave ever since on a pretty high.
There have been some episodes that have had some issues, have had lows. But overall, I'm very excited about the series. I'm a big fan right now and I can't wait to finish this story that they're trying to tell us. Yeah, I love how open Tony Gilroy is about everything.
We've kind of been accustomed now to star wars director writers and working star wars. Not saying anything, even after the movies come out of the series, they don't talk too much about any behind the scenes. It's just out there. Recently was how much he had to change from one or the changes behind it.
We know a lot already about season two of Andor because he doesn't show up and we love it because he's finally just giving us more stuff to kind of jump into and dig it. And it's been great. And Nick also had maybe Andor lost his parents when he was six and has been fighting everything. That's a possibility.
It's a possibility. Yeah. All right. We still don't know anything about the sister.
So do you think the sister will come back into play? I mean, I don't know if you have been listening to me and all these Andor episodes, but I have a theory about the sister that it's deadra, Didra could be Andor's sister. That was taken in by the Empire and I don't know. It's it works out, man.
I like those sort of things that you know the and Othe and I talk about it all the time. And I think that you know this enemy that you've been looking for and fighting for this whole time is like right in front of you or like has been next to you this whole time. We are jumping to Halbran and Galadio in three hours. We can.
I mean, I know you I know you've been into it. So yeah, I mean, it's that whole thing. It's the idea that what you've been looking for this whole time. It's closer to home than you think.
And I don't know. I told that it's not I don't think it would happen or it's just one of those things at the very first moment that we start seeing these characters. It's the first thing that comes to my mind. It's like the little grain of doubt that's just being like, Oh, could this be happening?
I don't know. I mean, I really hope that we get some follow up with this. So it's so important to discuss especially early on and kind of do this story that way that it went when those cops just kind of went in to confront him. And that's how zero was able to find out who Cassian was because there was this mention of the planet.
So it's so interesting to see it. See, see, didra. I don't know. I love didra.
Just give me more. Oh, it's adding maybe clay. Yeah. All right.
Are you hear me? Yeah. All right. I knew I had to charge it and I just waited anyway.
So can play every Cassian sister is a possibility? I mean, she doesn't know who he is because he wanted to kill him a few episodes ago. So hopefully. And again, it's there's always the possibility in the Star Wars world, but it's all about how they tell us the story, right?
They haven't had any interaction yet and they haven't had any connection. So possibilities are a bit slim, but it could always be could always be. It was it's one thing is these writers and directors have a letter down so far. So whatever direction they want to take it, I trust them because every choice they made so far has paid off.
So hopefully comes back. Didra, claya, and what else? What is it? Sinta.
We'll see. We'll find out. All right. I'm on my phone.
I'm just kidding. I want to do that. It's world within worlds. All right.
So let's jump into episode 11. We're just one episode. We're from season one thing. But this one was basically everyone experiencing some sort of loss or remorse over their actions, the consequences of the action we have.
Of course, Cassie having to deal with the loss of his mother. And then we have with one more time having to deal with her actions and how everything's falling down her daughter also now more even more alienated because she's into all these weird traditions that they have from Chandrila. And even at some point, even not so about Lothan, what he's talking to so and so kind of asking, hey, do you do you agree with your actions or something like that? And Lothan said at the beginning, yes, now having second thought.
So right now, not so much of giving cricket up. And we're going to talk a lot about that. So a lot of those stuff going on and traditions, history, what they do with the dead in fabrics and then all the traditions in Chandrila. So even though it didn't seem to be a very deep episode, there were a lot of deep themes going on.
So just overall, your thoughts on this episode and then we'll jump into Cassie and Mael Shik kind of leaving Norkina 5. I mean, overall, this episode, I think was a great just wrap up of some of the stories that led us off from the last episode, but also the push for the finale, right? It's leaving us with these unresolved issues and unresolved situations that are going to take us to the end of the story and end of the finale. And the way things are looking, all roads are leading to ferrics right now.
And it's about what's going to happen there and how is it all going to end up. And I think it was a pretty powerful episode overall. Like you said, a lot of lore, a lot of character moments, a lot of character development overall. And also just bringing all of these stories together.
I think we finally have the tie in of all of these stories into one thing. Maybe Monmafma still a little bit separated from the Andor situation of it all, but everybody else, like Luthan knows that Andor is a snake in his shoe at the moment. And you know, Val and Sintar are still on the hunt. And you know, we have the whole Cyril Karn situation of it all, the D-dress situation of it all.
We're finally bringing it all together. So I liked it. I was really into it. And I think it was just a great, I'm not going to say filler, but a great episode to lead us into the finale.
It's too tight into everything that you can't just like separate it into one thing. Yeah, I wouldn't call this a filler. Like you said, right now I have it somewhere in my notes. It's everyone's moving their pieces to going to ferret for this funeral to try and trap Andor being D-dress with the ISB, zero with the other guy that have their own plans and Sintan Val where they're watching.
So everyone's just waiting for Andor to come now and just spring that trap. Except like you said, Monmafma is the only one that has nothing to do with Andor. And that's fine. She doesn't need to be worrying about him or not who he is at this point.
Season two, or deal with that on season two. But I love that it's all before we go. Let me say hi to our friend, Robert, I think I'll say how you doing? That's what you're doing today.
I guess? A lot of it. Yeah, we all have a good start with Saturday here. The same thing about a good Saturday.
So I love that this episode starts with Cassian and Melche still on the run from leaving the Nakhina V prison. I love that Cassian was still playing that part of trying to keep Melche's mind away from the pain of his hand. Just repeating the same thing. Oh, I think they're leaving.
I think they're leaving. I don't say that. I can feel my hands. And then when Melche goes back, tell me how they're doing.
So visceral and emotional in the way that they're, and obviously we know that we have to end with a Cassian that is a leader and is a person who can lead a team of people who necessarily don't know what's happening or don't know what's going on. But he wasn't that yet, but he's becoming that now. And obviously the Nakhina V prison break is a key moment in Andor's like elevation to this character. And just the way they show us, the way they shot the hands, the rocks, the way the airship is flying down.
All these little pieces coming together to really evoke an emotion in us. I was just glued to the TV the minute that it started. I was just like, are they going to get caught now? Like what's happening?
I know they survived, but do they get caught now? And then they come back out. What's happening? But yes, the way that they tell us, show us what's happening is such an amazing opening to this episode.
Yeah, it was great. And even though we know what's going to happen, listening to Rogue One, you feel bad for the characters. Poor Mealshi, he was down and out at the prison. He said, we're never getting out.
They didn't think about it. We're going to die. And then he's just trying to get up that hill. I don't know if I can climb back up.
He said, just get there. It's like five feet away. You can do it. But yes, unfortunately they did get caught, even if it was for about two minutes.
They're trying, they see two aliens at the bottom of this ridge with one of my favorite ships. Not really, but just the mention of it. The Quat jumper that we hardly know from force Awaken mainly because of the trailers in it blown up. But there's no king and aliens.
I love my aliens and I was doing a good job with the weird species that we're getting. And then they just bring that travel. Look at these two jerk offs trying to steal our ship. How easy they got caught.
And then the whole thing, oh, we're going to kill you or there's a bounty for anyone that's trying to escape. But the Empire is messing up their water supply, has poison everything. We're not going to get anything else. So we'll let you go.
So that's not a frame. But they just got out and they got caught again. Well, I was definitely caught unaware by the situation and wasn't really sure where we were going with it. But I love that it all ended in the Star Wars of it, all the hopeful element of all of these people coming together to fight the one thing.
And understanding that regardless of the cultural differences and the multi levels that all of these worlds have, whether you're in or in core worlds, whatever it is, everybody's fighting the same villain. And I love that even though the Dark Kingians were clearly just messing around. They just wanted to be like, we're going to bring you to the police. But at the end, they're not going to do it.
But they do understand that the villain is the Empire and that they're the people who are ultimately responsible for everything that's happening. And these two guys have really nothing to do with it. So let's just help them out. Let's take them to where they need to go.
And I honestly thought that was an amazing scene. Yeah, I think it's, and there were messing with the squiggles and the water, right? I just, I love the design. I love that voice of those aliens.
I was very surprised that Andrew, let's go back to Niamos. It's like, what? They got big private parts to say. Let's go back to a place that they caught me and arrested me and sent me back over there.
It is. I mean, they did show us the whole boxing on the other episode, which I forgot about. So it's kind of good that they kind of tied it into this episode. Because I was like, same as you.
I was like, why does he want to go back? Like, what's the point? But I also like how they presented Niamos now. I love how when we saw it the first time it was like, you know, space Florida is what I'm called in.
And it was like, you know, check out this party thing. But now completely empty. Nobody's there. Nobody's obviously the empire did what they wanted to do there and take away the whole criminal element, even though they clearly weren't.
But yeah, I mean, it's why would you go back to a place where you literally just got caught and got taken away? But it gives for a great cinematography. I mean, that last shot with Melchian and Andrew is just so beautifully shot. And it gives you those rogue one vibes, you know, them at the beach.
What's going to happen? Yeah, when Niamos, the first time we saw Niamos, everyone, oh no, Cassian's again on a beach planet. It's not going to end well. So very surprised that they went back.
Same as you. I forgot all about the box. And even though it didn't play a huge part on this episode, I love that we also got to see that a mimics manifesto is still there, which I had after he was caught. I'm like, OK, well, the manifesto has nothing to play in his story going forward.
But then going back, getting the box and opening to see how the manifesto was there was a great move. And you know, it's going to come back to play later on. I don't know if there will be a different family, maybe season two, but who knows? But yes.
Well, let's focus. He's clearly like the time that he was in Niamos before he was listening to it. He was something that he kept with him and he was starting to understand. Maybe when Niamos gave it to him, he was still like, OK, maybe this isn't, you know, but now he knows.
This is his Bible now. This is what he's going to learn and to do and how to change and understand what evil really is. Yeah, because at first when they asked him, I'll just say for the money, they got paid to do a job and get him my cut and then I don't hear about the cause. But now that he's gone through the system, unfortunately, he's like, I'm going to do something more about it.
But yeah, that ended. Before we talk about notion, him kind of separating at the end. So Andrew, Cassian, he calls back to home, back to Fairix. Hey, tell Morgan, doing my stuff.
She'll be proud of me. Then I'll be there as soon as I can. And they just learning that her mom had passed. It's a shocker.
Please be in a month and a half or something in jail. Finally got out. Once the whole month, he's doing fine. Hasn't heard from him in so long.
She's already worried. I wasn't there when she died. How is this going to affect now him going forward and maybe joining the rebellion or doing something else? You think that way that she died, because when Otu was here last week, he was saying, oh, she's going down in a place of glory.
She's going to go against the empire. They're going to kill her. And that's probably how Cassian joins her fight. I hope she doesn't die that way.
I thought that she was going to die on natural causes, but that Cassian was able to speak with her one more time. And then she kind of brings that out of him. But you think now her dying at the hands of the empire, not dying at her hands, but he not being able to be there because of the empire due to him is what pushes him now to join this rebellion. So, I mean, are you ready for my curveball?
Because this is, and I told Otu, I was like, could Marva's death be a rebel ploy to get the empire to come back to pharix and them just, you know, get rid of them all? And, you know, not to say that I didn't like the whole Marva death sequence and learning about the daughters of pharix and the friend of Cassian who I always forget his name, I don't know, not Tim, but you know, be to emo also like all that he's going through, but could this could Marva's death really just be a rebel ploy to get all these elements that we know are going through? And the elements that we know are looking into the rebel situation in pharix, we know they're kind of organized, not extremely organized, but they have some sort of communication system throughout, you know, we saw it in the episodes when they were coming to get them. And it's interesting, you know, it all happens out of the blue.
I mean, we know Marva has issues, it's been stated from episode one, so we know it's a situation. But I don't know, it could be all roads lead to pharix, so we know a massive situation is going to happen. And not saying that now you know Marva's just going to kick open a door with our laser gun and just start killing everybody, but it could be that being said, I do feel that that is the key moment that Andor understands how much he has to lose. He kind of, you know, he comes back to get Marva, he wants her to come with him, but when Marva tells him, you know, I'm too old, I'm, you know, I'm too frail, just go, you do your thing, you know, we'll meet back together.
She kind of lets him off with the seat of, you know, understand the bigger fight. And losing Marva is just, I feel the moment that Andor can be like, wow, I just literally lost all that I had, you know, what else do I have to live for, if not the battle for the Empire, right. And knowing that Marva as well was fighting the Empire, she was completely against it. So was Klem, Klem died doing that, you know, his only father figure that we know of to this moment.
So, I mean, I do think that in terms of storytelling and what they're doing for us, it's just another step up, you know, the way they presented it to us, the whole B2Emo element of it all I feel was just spot on. Yeah, poor B2, we'll get to him in a minute. So as I was watching the episode, I thought her death was a fake out. I didn't think that she was really dead.
We don't see the body at any point. We saw something wrapped a body or at least something with the shape of a body was wrapped and kind of caught it off. And that was how this is a fake, something's gonna happen and there's gonna have this five fight right down the street of ferrets, maybe a way to get to the tunnel that she mentioned before. But I don't know, by the end of it, I'm like, maybe she did die.
I don't know how much that people there on ferrets knows that the ISB and everyone else is kind of watching their house. So it took me a rebel ploy to get all the impureals out there. But I'll say I'm like 80, 20, 85, 20, 15, 85, 15, if Marva's really dead, this is a fake out. But with the calls and they tell him, oh, you're molly died, that's like, oh, we can now come back with it.
I feel like that's the moment to it's like, would they tell Andor and why would they want Andor to come back to ferrets, even if they're gonna make this whole fire fight thing and get the empire out of ferrets, why would they want him to come back? Because there's even the guy telling him that it's happening, he's like, you know, he's kind of being like, stay away, but your mom's dead, like they know he's gonna come. Andor's kind of almost selfishness too, right? That he only cares about himself, but that's an extension of himself, right?
The people he cares about his friends as well. We know he cares about Vix very, very much. We know he cares about was about Bosco, the other friend as well. Brasso, like he cares about his friends.
It's not that he doesn't care about them. He has this internal kind of like moral guide to him. But that's kind of where it ends right now. And now he's starting to add people to that, right?
The people in the prison, obviously what he went through with Keyno and the people in the prison has changed him. So if he comes back to ferrets, he's not the same Andor that left ferrets. So he's gonna join this fight to help the people that he knows are involved in it. He's always been kind of separated to it.
He knows that Vix and these people are like kind of doing their thing on the side, but he's his own man. He's a mercenary in his own right now. He's starting to delve into the teamwork of it all. So, you know, it just, that is the moment when you're like, is the ploy fake or not?
You know, why would you tell him that? So I'm still like 75, 25 maybe, but we'll see. Yeah. And I think also once he learns what they've been doing too big, because Vix is still being tortured.
I think that's gonna be another. I just want to say one more thing about Niamos, I guess, before we jump then to Mater's desk and we think it's happening on ferrets. Because you mentioned this, that moment with Melshi and Melshi. Again, here, a couple of days ago, he started going to die in this prison.
I was like, we need to let people know what's going on out there. Nobody knows what really happening. We need to let the people know. I love that scene.
I love the way that it was acted. And again, it gives that relationship that they have five years from now. They'll be, you know, that Vix and Scarif laying down their lives fighting for this cause. So I just love that scene that Melshi was not just, yeah, we saw him in one episode and then he'll be back in Rock 1.
It's an important part to play in all this. I just love that. And then Matero. Because, oh, yeah, I mean, it is.
And you can see him kind of change from that moment when he's like, oh, we're gonna die here. We're not gonna get out of here. We're gonna kind of end up in this prison too. We have to let people know what's happening here.
It also parallels or actually flips the coin to what they were saying in prison. Who's listening? Is anybody listening? Nobody is listening.
And now they need to tell the story or need to get this voice out there so people can listen. And I love that that's an element through and through in Star Wars. It's getting the message out. And it's the biggest thing at the end of Last Jedi, right?
It's like the message doesn't reach the people that it needs to reach. But then we come to Rise of Skywalker and the message does. It's something that we see in Rebels as well. It's like, can we get the message out?
We see it in, God, what's the planet that Esra is from? Lothal. Lothal. Like we see it in Lothal.
It's like we need to let people know what's happening here. We need to get the message out. And that's what gets people to come in. So I love that we end in that note of Melshi just being with us.
And Melshi just being like, hey, I know that I wasn't with you a little bit ago, but now we really need to move forward and get people to come to our side. All T always says that he picks little moments in his episode to highlight. I think that for me will lose status. That little moment that might go on perceived by a lot of people had a lot of meaning behind it.
Everything over here is that my microphone died. One of my lights died. So I'm sorry all of them. It's just me right now.
You don't see anything else. But we'll just keep going then with more of us death and everything happening on Fairix. We already talked about Earth passing. Brassos, they're kind of taking over.
There's no one else to help. Marva Fred. I mean, Biggs is locked up. Andro is gone.
So Brassos has taken over us. Doing all the arrangement with the help of Doris O'Ferrix. But the episode starting with poor B2 emo. At Droid, I can Star Wars.
They do droids. So great. It's not something. They just a droid.
So they don't have feelings. In Star Wars, all the droids are feeding. But the way it was shot like the start at the beginning, the way they shoot certain scenes, the loop he was crying. It looks like the poor droid was crying.
Doesn't want to be alone. Doesn't want to leave himself. It's the only place he knows. It's just heartbreaking to see a droid go through that.
In Star Wars, it's for kids. It's this fantasy, sci-fi, we all have fun with it. Droid, sci-fi always makes us laugh. But now scene one goes through all these emotions.
What's pretty heartbreaking, different. But just done in a great way that this is just a kid losing a parent also. Yeah. I always try to take it back to one of our very first droids.
And that's C3PO. C3PO for the longest time was this comedic element to the film. He was just there really to make us laugh. And then we end nine movies later with him literally having to sacrifice everything he's ever had to know to save the people that he cares about.
He doesn't just want them to succeed because he's their droid. He wants them to succeed because he cares about the things that they care about. We see that through and through with all of the droids in Star Wars. Most of them are to each of us.
That key element in a lot of characters. In recent Star Wars, we'd have some of the best we've had Lola in Obi. We had Dio in Rise of Skywalker. We had BB-8 in Force Awakens.
All these droids that really elevate what it means to be a non-humanoid character in Star Wars. I feel like they're the most humans sometimes. They actually are the elements of humans. They bring a realism to what we're doing.
An emotional element that other characters can't and B2 just really sells that in that scene. The POV that they show us of him. Just how he's talking and reacting to all that's happening. How he doesn't want to leave Marv aside or the home.
It really tucks at the heartstrings in a way that sometimes even the human characters don't do it. Even at the beginning when Brasos says, oh, we gotta go, we're moving him. He's like, oh, wait, he just in case he comes back or something like that. And that's also like, oh, are they fake in it?
But it's we've been through that. As younger kids or at any point, those in someone closer, you're losing a parent. Those first few days you still think they might come back or you try to call their name because you forgot this habit. But then you mentioned Dio and if you read Shadow the Sith, then we get a lot with Dio and freaking out with the knife.
I always forget Ochi. With Ochi. Ochi. We see how much Ochi just treated it.
How bad it treated Dio and just showing that Dio felt everything. And this joys feelings out there. So we talked a little bit about Biggs still being tortured by the Empire. They show her a hologram of Krigger trying to get her to say, this is the person that she introduced and or to.
We don't get her answer. Do you think she might life through it or? Well, I mean, and correct me if I'm wrong because I really don't remember, but do we see her interact with Luton at any moment in those episodes when she calls him in? Yes.
So when Luton gets there, they made for about a minute. So she knows who Luton is. Okay. Yeah.
Well, I mean, again, she's so mentally in a whole other space that I feel like she could maybe say yes, just because she still doesn't know. I love that that first introduction is just her still like almost hallucinating what has been happening to her. But I mean, I don't know. I feel like the this will like end on Krigger situation feels almost like like, how does this all tie in?
Like, how are we going to bring it all to home with it? It's almost like, let's just add a random character here. We know it's not a random character because something will happen with it. I do feel like Bix is just in not the best headspace.
So she probably might not say the right answer because of that. Just because she knows Luton doesn't mean that she's going to now remember him after the situation. Yeah, I am Tom Krigger. To me, that was a throwaway name on that episode.
Especially who sent on Krigger, I went to Wikipedia and all this space. We never heard this. Okay, whatever is just a name. And now it seems to be an important character.
I don't know where Bix is going to fall on this. She might say yes. She might say no. She's so messed up that she doesn't even know what's going on.
I just want to highlight this comment real quick from Nick and just finish up the droid talk. I think that just look as based on two comic characters in the Kiro Krosawa season. Fortunately, in that film, those characters are comedic first, but face tragic and death. I mean, become tragic and face death, which a lot of droids even push it.
Like you said, twice he's had his memory erased. Put droid. It's a problem being a protocol droid. So we said, Cintas, they're looking at the house.
I forget the name of the ISP agent also working at Tavern or whatever, looking at the house. Oh, blame Dom. What happened? Is that an important person?
Do you know her? And she's like, I just been here a few days. Yeah. But I love that.
I get it comes to everyone's preparing their little traps or setting up moving their pieces hoping for Andrew to come back. We said that as big guy with Didra, Siro Kron gets this call from Monk. I think it's Monk. So from Musk, from this Melter.
Ah, we got him. I think yes, sir. I love that Siro is Monk for the first time he's all mess stops and have time to get dressed. So I just love all that scene.
But yeah, it's like a lot of people have been saying it all. It's going back to Fairix back to Fairix. I can't wait for the finale. There's a few shots from the trailer that we haven't seen yet and everything's unfair.
So it's going to be really interesting to see what happens in this finale. But just anything else from Fairix before we move on to Luton and so. No, I mean, again, I just think it's how these characters are going to deal with this situation. We do know and this is going based on that Marva did die and that whole thing is real.
There is an element of a wake and a funeral and the lore behind what the people of Fairix are doing. So I do love that, you know, regardless of how these people are kind of, you could almost say they're like bits and pieces of the universe coming together in this planet of refugees almost. They are a community and they are a people who care about each other. And, you know, there are no differences.
There are no social classes or anything like that. It's all about just coming together as a community, which I feel like it's something very important leading to this finale. So I just can't wait to see that just come to fruition, right? Yeah, and that's a great little to this comment from Mo because yeah, that Fairix is a community.
No one's going to turn on anyone except for Tim. Well, he's gone now. Damn Tim. Tim, everything could have been safe here.
But Mo is talking about Edie being actually smaller. So, several times more just being that cattle tail is probably, yeah, you're right. And then I don't know. I don't know.
Nick has a question. How come Luton worries about Cassian having seen his face were not worried about Bix? I don't know. I think back if it's something maybe he said on their way to the planet when Luton took so.
I mean, that's a good question. I don't know. That's a good question. I'm not sure.
I think if anything, it is kind of stated that Bix has had past dealings with Luton and she has had business with him in the past, whereas this is Cassian's very first, you know, interaction. So maybe Luton kind of has already taken a read on Bix and knows that Bix does care about the cost, so she would never betray it. Because Cassian is a loaded gun at this moment. The moment that you can see it from that first interaction with them, with the star path engine and the Empire or the corpus coming to get them, he doesn't know how Cassian is going to react or how he's going to take this whole, oh, you can join something bigger than yourself.
So Cassian to Luton is still almost like a wild card. And Bix, yes, Bix, you know, does know who he is, but Bix clearly has a bigger in on the cause than Cassian. Or at least that's what they have been showing us. Yeah, I don't know.
We'll see. Hopefully we'll get explained. I'm very interested to see the reunion between Cassian and Luton. I have no idea how he's going to go.
I'm very interested to see how he's going to go, especially with Cinta and Vel on this mission to kill him. Are they going to try to play on it? Are they going to pull back? Is Luton going to show up on Ferris?
I don't think so. I would leave that all as soon as before we end the show. But let's talk a little bit about Luton and so on all that insurrection. It kind of starts with Vel visiting Clea on Coruscant.
Hey, I have information where he says he's not here. Blah blah blah. He has an answer about Moravas dead. And it's very pointed that she wants Clea to let Luton know that this information came from her.
I don't know why, but maybe Clea's taking too much ownership of information that's being brought up, kind of coming from her when he's coming from someone else. But I love that scene when Vel kind of tells him, oh, I've been doing a lot for him lately. What have you done? I mean, I don't do daily.
I mean, I don't do frequently. I don't have lately. I have always. Like, I'm always here with him.
I do this. I keep in common. It's like, I'm the one to put in day in and day out with him. So I love that little scene.
And also shows like, Clea told Vel everything you're doing now is wrong. At first, she doesn't mention Luton by name when she visits Montmart to episodes ago. And Montmart has, oh, what has he been doing? And she's like, we don't say his name or what are you talking about something like that.
And now she's just saying Luton, Luton all the way. So it's everyone's kind of losing their temper a little bit. So that little scene was great. Yeah, a lot of emotions.
And I feel like it's also kind of tying it in a little to the last one with Lonnie, right? It's like how Lonnie asks Luton, like, why don't you sacrifice him? Luton is just like, listen here. You know, so, you know, Clea's just playing the long game.
Clea understands what's happening. And so at this moment, it's still like a hired gun and like just not, you know, she cares about the cause, but she plays more the role of the mercenary than the actual rebel. So it'll be interesting. I think emotions are going to be very high leading to the next episode, which could be the downfall of the Velen-Sinta situation, because that's another reunion that I'm crazy to see, just how Vel-Sinta and Cassian just find each other again.
Vel basically having, you know, almost been like, get out of my life, you know, after and or, you know, did what he did. And, you know, and good to him. He did what he had to do. Yeah.
Yeah. Nick is saying Vel-Sinta, the guy wants to go and join Sinta. Oh, yeah, French and I'm going to go and play the pre-girl. I'm going to provide every support, but I'm taking everything from that is factorial, whatever it was, plus I want everything that you promised me.
I know what I'm only taking. The everyone's taking all that from me. I don't care. It's my show now.
So I love that. So I was like, okay, I'm going to go kill some Imperials. That's all I care about. But then do things like that.
I actually stood like for that. Time has gone. I just been all about Krieger. They're going to kill all three of them plus Krieger plus Krieger plus Krieger.
And the title of this episode today, 30 Men plus Krieger, making it very, I forget my words. Very important. I guess. Yeah.
Notice that it's plus Krieger is one of the leaders, I guess, of these different pockets of rebellion. Yeah, of course. But I love it. We talked about it here.
You mentioned that speech from Louten. Everything is sacrificed. We talked last week about how yet he sacrificed a lot, but at least to myself, it seems like a very selfish sacrifice, the way that he's been doing it. And I think we said that he will sell so as quickly as Anton Krieger.
And I love that. So I called him out on it. Oh, you would just do the same thing for me. And of course, Louten's reaction to that was the same thing is you know me.
So I have something to lose if the ISP gets you. Anton Krieger doesn't know me. So to help with him, again, it's what affects him. But I just love the whole scene, especially when so it's like, oh, how do you know this?
You have either your ISP or you have someone there in the ISP, which means you have someone here. You have someone everywhere. What's going on? And so starting to get paranoid and the way that he was acted and then pull two tubes gets thrown on the deposit.
I just love the whole scene. Yes, totally agree. I think it just it sells two things. One, the kind of like guerrilla fighter, paranoidism that saw embodies, but also the strategic analytical side that Louten embodies as well.
He's like, you know, we can either try to save these men now and lose the fight over all or sacrifice them and play the long game. And right now it's all about the long game. They can't just take the fight to them. And yeah, poor two two two two.
Again, it's I love that little Star Wars thing that you know you can be a little comedic about some things, you know, a character that I've always loved in Star Wars is Hondo from Clone Wars and just the way that he would easily do that same thing. Oh, it's this guy right here. But the way he plays it right just to grab his gun and you know, make saw here and that's the other thing like saw goes like, Oh, you're just gonna kill me right here and you know, I don't want to kill you. That's not the point of this.
The point is that you listen to I'm trying to tell you is that there's something bigger at play in this situation. There's it's not just about you and me right now. It's about you, me and the however many rebel cells that we have working on through and through the whole universe. Yeah, and it's a great act that's in which said I don't know probably every episode.
This is the reason you get actors of this caliber to come to Star Wars and play this type of characters because you need that gravity task behind it. And just the way he plays saw from Rogue One and here is just so great. So I just love everything about it. Yeah, put two tubes just fall into the trap because he says it's on natural at this tubes.
Of course, it's your man tell him tell him. It's like, Oh, that wasn't me. It's like, dude, he's playing you gotta know this. And then they go again into the 30 men plus trigger call it what you want.
Let's call it war. Right? Because it's for the greater good. Let's call it war.
But then so hopefully we get more saw in season two. I don't think we'll see him in the finale. Hopefully season two. So we get Looten back on his ship, the fondor and he's talking to Clea and Clea kind of letting that was going on.
And I love the way that they talk about saw and and or as either players or artifacts for their or their words. Players still in play. Yeah, but I have to give too much or I didn't have a hand to play when talking about so I gave more than I wanted. It's the only place didn't play.
I love that whole interaction. But then the empire has to show up and we get this fondor class, whatever can't dwell class cruiser. And he has to we've seen the trailers. We've been waiting for the lightsaber.
The spinning the spin laser or whatever. But I love that scene. If we talking about and doesn't feel like Star Wars, that was Star Wars, that interaction with the with the Imperial agent. Yeah.
They're getting the fake codes and then the codes check up. So we just let him go. No, we need the practice, which sounds a lot like police just pulling someone out just to mess with them even though they weren't breaking a rule or something. Yeah.