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EPISODE · Feb 12, 2026 · 46 MIN

S5E2: TM&TM Soup

from The Maker and The Merchant · host Lee Isaacs and Fergus Elias

Do you like wine? Do you like soup? Do you like satire? Then Batman voice You're going to love this* Ferg and Lee had a plan. They'd exchanged notes, wHattsuppps, messages, and even emails. Then the record button got pressed and the walls came crashing down as if it was Jericho relived. They say the road to Hell is paved with good intentions and while we can't really comment on that, we can say that the brave souls who walk this road are likely doing so on a diet of soup. This episode contains 250% of your RDA of utter nonsense but there are some flecks of gold to find amongst the mud and soil. What can wine learn from the soup industry? What can satirists do to survive these dark times? Just where have Ferg and Lee been on their travels recently? All this and, well, not really much more in an episode that is already being described as 'loose', 'hard going', and 'is this the last dying voice of podcasting?'. Prepare all of your systems to be nervous as you pipe this lunacy directly into your limbic system... *Highly unlikely anyone would like this.

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