s5ep5 - the fold in the paper

in which Andrea Carter Brown and i talk engendering empathy, the moments our lives are folded around, and BIRDS!!! where to find Andrea: website - andreacarterbrown.com September 12 - wordworksbooks.org/product/september-12 other things referenced: Monda Van Duyn - poetryfoundation.org/poets/mona-van-duyn Robert Haas - poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hass Mary Jo Salter - poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-jo-salter Brian Turner - poetryfoundation.org/poets/brian-turner Ishion Hutchinson - poetryfoundation.org/poets/ishion-hutchinson BIRDS referenced: Oystercatcher - audubon.org/field-guide/bird/american-oystercatcher Long-billed Curlew - audubon.org/field-guide/bird/long-billed-curlew Allen's Hummingbird - audubon.org/field-guide/bird/allens-hummingbird Gray Catbird - audubon.org/field-guide/bird/gray-catbird Mississippi Kite - audubon.org/field-guide/bird/mississippi-kite