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EPISODE · Jun 10, 2025 · 20 MIN

S6:E3: School Turnaround and the Power of Empathy: Insights from Dr. Frankie Pollock Jr.

from Stories from the Field: The Superintendent Podcast · host Institute for Education Innovation

In this episode, host Doug sits down with Dr. Frankie Pollock Jr., soon to earn his doctorate and currently serving as Senior Executive Director at Houston ISD in Texas. Together, they explore Dr. Frankie's groundbreaking research on the retention of Black male educators in urban school districts, the critical role of representation for all student groups, and what it takes to recruit and retain diverse talent in the classroom and beyond.Dr. Frankie Pollock Jr. shares powerful stories from his career, including a bold experiment where he spent a day as a student in his own high school to better understand and empathize with the challenges kids face daily. He also lifts the curtain on the complex realities of educational leadership, from moving across cities for new roles to guiding schools through major turnarounds. Doug and Frankie discuss mentorship, balancing politics, and why embracing side hustles can help keep talented leaders in the field.Key Moments06:31 "Shaping Perspective on Student Experience"08:12 School Adjustment Challenges11:28 Transformational Leadership in Education14:58 Leadership Growth and Opportunities18:06 Building Leaders Through Mentorship19:43 Mentor's Impact on Student GrowthWhy You’ll Love This Episode:In this inspiring conversation, Dr. Frankie Pollock Jr. shares his groundbreaking research on retaining Black male educators, the power of representation, and what it really takes to lead school turnarounds. From spending a day as a student in his own high school to mentoring future leaders, Frankie brings empathy, insight, and practical wisdom to the challenges of urban education. A must-listen for anyone passionate about equity, leadership, and impact.Connect with Dr. Frankie Pollock Jr.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankiehpollockjr/ Website: https://www.scrsd.org/ssd/OurSchools/Whs/Wesths Follow Us OnHost LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougrobertsiei/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/institute-for-education-innovation/ Company Website: https://www.instituteforedinnovation.com/ Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to IEI for more powerful conversations on educational leadership, innovation, and the stories shaping our schools.

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