For Belling to build on her Welcome to another episode of Radio Rebellion, its Star Wars, but yes, I'm your host, I'll be your host, I'm your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host, I'll be your host today, and thank you for joining us today on this Star Wars Saturday. We're back to Bay City's Just Me today, no guest, no co-host, I'll just not hear his his engagement party so we understand it very important that they wish him all the best. But we're back like Radio Rebellion was all those years ago when we started, before we had my co-host and you know I had a few people calling us Hey, if you need any help, shout out, we'll be there. And then I thank all of them.
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It's not interesting to see where it landed. I've been up and down on my thoughts on it. Everything was good. I just have a few thoughts.
And then of course, we'll finish with a little bit of talk on the last of us. Since we had the ending to the first season earlier this week. So no more shows from the last of us. Gotta wait until season two.
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Star Wars on TV. And we are so with the Mandalorian. Episode three from season three. It's a, there's a lot of talk out there for this episode.
Most of it is good. I haven't seen a lot of negative about it. But there are different mindsets in terms of if this episode really fit the tone of the Mandalorian and the story that they've been setting up for these past two seasons. Now we season three.
We'll get all into it. So yeah, again, if you're in the chat, just let me know all your thoughts on it and I'll highlight them as we go. Again, with not out here today, I'm going to be in charge of everything. So we might take a little bit to get you to it again.
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It starts right where we left off in the previous episode of the Mandalorian. Bo Katan has just rescued Dean from his dip in the pool. He got confirmed. It wasn't pulled down by the miter.
So he just means that last day of being that Dean Jarn that he is and just went straight down like 50 meters. For some reason, he couldn't. I get that best because it's kind of heavy. But they're both outside.
Bo Katan is still with her mind blown about seeing the miter. So but Dean Jarn just laying down on those steps. 10-7 that we said yesterday. Like we said, it's important.
It's passed out. No CPR, no chest compressions, anything. He's just there dead. And Bo Katan's just waiting there.
And he thankfully starts coughing and wakes up. But it was a very cool episode. And he's ready to go. She's like, yeah, I win.
I says, you're reading the Seattle here. He said, wait, I got to take my sample. I need that evidence because we were wondering. How is he going to tell the armor that he actually was reading?
Well, he got the sample. And it's all about that star fighter fight, that jet fighter fight that we got when they get back to Calibala or in their way to Calibala. All these tight defenders. So it's not tight defenders.
We were there. How about every tight fighters? Tight interceptors. I think they were following the Mandalorian fighter, which is one of my favorite corn fighter gauntlet.
So we have a great dog fight. And then Dean Jarn just dropped me. I got my jet pack. I can make it to the end one.
I'll give you some backup. And it was a great scene. I'm not going to lie. Awesome.
Awesome action scene. Great scene. Both of those star ships going against the tight fighters. Got to give one up for them.
For Bo Katan's droid. Her castle got destroyed. And then he's just there. Poet Roy just holding down the fort.
And he's probably dead. I love that droid. I know he's gone. Poet Roy Bo Katan or her homes get destroyed.
One funny thing is when she says when Dean Jarn said, no, let's just give me back to my ship. I got to go to the arm or to get redeem. And she's like, oh, I was going to invite you over for a feast. It's just you.
What feast? It's just you. This isn't Boa Fe throwing those bodies in Tatooine. It's just Bo Katan and her droid.
There's no feast. So there's no food for so many people. But anyway, that big takeout from that scene after they destroy the TIE fighters, they get a bunch more like 10 or 20 modules shoot out from nowhere. So it's like, which Imperial Warlord has all these ships in our combat mix?
So is it Muff Gideon's fleet that's still out there and chasing her? She did take his, we're guessing that she took his like cruiser. Maybe the new Republic, we don't know. But she said that she had been stealing freighters and stuck to her from other Imperials.
So it might be one of those. Probably Muff Gideon or is that part of Tron's fleet? We know that Tron is set up to be this big bad dimension system to we all expect him to be that big villain for the ASO coming up later this year. Are they going to show Tron or at least a mention of Tron some point in Mandos Season 3?
Excuse me, I think so. So I think this is the first kind of glimpse at what's out there. So now just Muff Gideon and his little Imperial redness that he has, there's a bigger player out there. I think that was the first time that we're getting OK.
There's something else happening. I think it's going to be Tron. And that kind of ends this scene. Dinja and tells her, oh, I'm going to give you some hyperspace jump coordinates, a place we can go.
They're not going to be able to track us and we'll head out there. And they just jump to Lysby. And then we jump to Twirthing happened on Coruscant. But before we go, let me tell you guys what you guys were saying.
So Mo is adding, she says Mando was so different. I digged it. I love the set up of seeing the Republic failing. And that was the biggest kind of gut punch.
It's seen how early, five years after the end of the empire, the new republics already. This isn't going to last. And I'm surprised it lasted all the way till the first awakens. So Michael is saying very important story telling episode just too long for the Gacha moment in the middle.
Couldn't have gotten her. She wasn't on the up and up. And that Mando is horrible compared to Andor, and Mando was just like Andor. We'll talk about that.
And Tron, of course, is going to be Tyson to Ahsoka. I agree. I was going to wait too late. I do agree that that middle part was a bit too long.
I think it was about 40 minutes, that middle part. I think we can do it in 20. I'm pretty sure they just want it a little bit longer. So we get that relationship between Dr.
Persian and Ili Akain. So we get that relationship and then the turn feels a little bit more of a gut punch. I think they're going to do this a little bit quicker. But anyway, this is the episode that we got.
So let's talk about it. Yeah, everyone saying the endorefication of the Mandalorian. He got a taste of his own medicine by not being in the episode solo and just like he did to Boba Farrant his show. I think it's different because I love those episodes.
Some of my favorite Star Wars storytelling are those two episodes of Dean Jarrah of the Mandalorian in Book of Boba Fett. But I don't understand they weren't the best for the Book of Boba Fett. And I feel a little bit similar here. I understand some people are going to say, like I said at the beginning, it's all Star Wars.
All these stories are connected. So why are you saying that it's a good Star Wars episode, a good episode of Star Wars storytelling? But not a good episode of the Mandalorian. If all these Star Wars just push into the same story to the same end, then the tone is different.
We said before we love Andor here, myself, O.T. O.L.R. guests love Andor. But not every Star Wars show needs to be like Andor in terms of tone and the message behind what they're focusing on.
And that's one of the things I love about the Mandalorian, especially that first episode, which I'm probably the minority. It's still my favorite of this third season, that first episode. Because it captured everything that I think I'm Mandalorian. There's a lot of action.
It's the Injarnas, kind of kneeling against a tree ready to bring out the blasters and take down some pirates. Great comedy from Grogu and from Grief Karga. We have more lore with Boak of 10. And everything happened with the Injarn want to be redeemed.
So everything that we love about the Mandalorian, I found it in that first episode. This third one, we got a little bit on both end caps or bookends of the episode. And this middle part, again, very good Star Wars lore building. Like Mo said, talking about the New Republic, and how it's already failing.
And it's something that we wanted to see those back and hits, like Andor. It's very similar also to the bad batch and what we're seeing in terms of on the other end, how quickly the Empire was able to take control and change everything here. The New Republic is just failing so much, especially when you get people in the high end that don't care. New Republic Empire is all the same.
I lose track. It doesn't affect me. So what do I care? And we see this with the last Jedi when they're in, when DJ steals the ship and shows Finn that, hey, it's all the same coin.
They saw the same size to a different size. So the same coin is just a machine. People don't care. So it makes money.
That's what matters. So we can see the buildings do it. And at the end, I give them my idea why they went this route instead of just doing more than a lot of type of story. So it has to do, I think, to the new ranges of the New Republic being canceled.
I think this was part of it. And they just had to show up this storyline there. But anyway, in terms of visuals, acting, storytelling, it was this middle-pargone back to Coruscant. It's something that we all love seeing that planet that's so rich, rich ties and close ties to every Star Wars fan from the prequel era to all the generations to people watching it.
Now it's a very different chorus end from what we saw in Andor and this all bleak, this architecture, everything cement we go there during the day. So it's kind of muggy outside. So we don't see all the bright lights that we are used to in Coruscant. And that's what we got in them on the floor.
And so yes, we're back in Coruscant. Yeah, this episode is that thriller vibe that we became used to with Andor. But Coruscant is a very different setting from what we got in Andor. So in that sense, I'm really happy that we saw it at night.
All the night life there, going to the opera, of course, even if it's a little bit different, we're pushing to his talk there. So he's in the Amnesty program, the New Republic Amnesty program. If you can see back here, I have my alphabet squad on Trilogy. So if you've read that, as soon as I said, the New Republic Amnesty program, you start it.
Yeah, I know that. You know that little meme. Rika Quel, you got to read everything that went through us at High Fire pilot that went then with the rebels at that point. And her commander forgot his name that didn't.
He walked away from the Empire, especially in that first book. But wasn't going to turn himself into the rebels. He didn't believe that the rebels were just going to welcome him in that we're just going to kill them just the same thing. And she's on the other end from this.
I was aware I have it here somewhere, out of that reconditioning program. And then she kind of gets pushed into the rebellion. But it talks a lot about them. And the ending of that trilogy is with her doing her own redemption, not through death, but being part of that program and just helping people out.
So again, alphabet squad on that book talks about, especially from the Empire side, Rika Quel ties very closely to what we learned here with the New Republic and the way they're trying to be better than the Empire. But not really. We see them when Dr. Pershing comes back from his talk in the Opera, everyone's given a number, not a name.
They all are wearing the same clothes. They're all lifting these clothes quarters where you can't leave the perimeter. They all have these menial jobs and menial tasks. They're doing the same thing, just erasing all the data from the Empire.
And that starts pushing Pershing to what he's going to eventually do. It's like, why this is good? Data is good technology. We could use it together than the Republic.
Yeah, yeah, but don't worry about it. It's new, it's the Empire's technology just get rid of it. Don't ask questions. We're already falling behind.
And that's when he starts kind of thinking about why. What am I doing? Why are we doing this? If my research is something that can help the Republic, why are we just destroying?
And this is when Leah came from around. We all saw her in the first in season two as being the communications officer for Moff Gideon. And now we got a lot more with her. Thank you for naming her.
They feel like I don't have a lot of love around enjoy that we have here, especially with some of our guests, how they don't name characters. I'm glad that we got an info really with more of her backstory on why she's doing things. Did you guys out there, were you always kind of known how this is going to be a double agency just using him? Or were you guys truly believing that she had turned to the new Republic and was trying to help?
I'm kind of both sides. I want to say that I believe her because she didn't have a big part to plan that second season on the Lordians. She was there I think for one episode, not maybe two. Then it's too important to what Moff Gideon was doing.
So I did kind of, yeah, yeah, it's just there to help. So when the turn came at the end, and I'll wait before we talk a little bit more about it, they kept telling me about surprise. I wasn't sure where she was going. Talking about the Mandalorian, the way the episode that show kind of feels Michael is in.
I do agree a little bit with this saying that this isn't a show that needs us to be on the edge of our seats. It's all about world building. Many Great Books have boring chapters. Yes, it does happen.
But yeah, I think this show is not one, like you said, that we have to be that pension field that we were with, and so I get even though I did enjoy this middle part, I don't think it fit the tone of the Mandalorian. But nothing we can do about that now. So anyway, so Leah Kane, the Moshe talks with Dr. Pershing, what's her first name, like Penn Pershing, I think it was, keeps asking about do you still want to continue your research?
Is it gonna help the new Republic? Don't just follow blindly. That's what we did with the Empire and see where we're at now. So if you think that this is going to better than a Republic, even if they don't see it now, you should push ahead, follow your gut and they'll see it eventually.
And once he learns that they're just destroying and they're taking away all these Imperial data that he's worked so hard for, he's kind of, okay, let's go ahead and do it. They decide to go to this Imperial shipyard. Of course, she brings in the Tettleso cookies. Come on, that was so such on the nose.
They're pinging, same packaging, same thing, okay, you're fans of Tettleso, just changing it a little bit. But anyway, so they get on this subway, on this train. And I'm gonna say after coming from Solo, which are great trains in with the Conveiex, a great train scene in Book of Boa Fett, this train scene wasn't that great. I know it was different, doesn't have to be action packed, I didn't feel the tension in it.
I don't know why they need tickets. This is Star Wars, you don't need tickets to get on the train, doesn't know it. Everything's to run app. If I take a bus now, I show them an app, yeah, I paid, okay, get in.
We're not sure tickets, this isn't the Apollo Express. When Tom Hacks is out there, just click and tickets to make sure. You pay, you get that coin, go through the turn style, you win. Anyway, that's separate.
So they make it all the way to the Imperial shipyard. We got that scene that we also on that trailer about this story there. We didn't know a lot of people were, a lot of theories were out there. Is this Mob Gideon's fleet that's getting the commission?
Is his throne fleet getting ready to attack? What's going on here? I believe I said here in one of our episodes, I thought that it was just getting the commission. So all their story stories, and that's essentially what was happening.
But no one's really taking too much care of them. There's no security, they go in, they grab what they need, and then after working out, some noises that they hear, they're started working out. And then that's when this double cross happens. We get the, this police chopper that comes in, shines the lights at them, and then everyone else is there.
At that point I thought, okay, once they put their blasters down, the first one, I'm like, okay, all these are working with Kane, the whole part of Mob Gideon's group, and they're just gonna go out. So I thought that was gonna happen. So when she said, oh, she was working with the new Republic, and trying to see how far he would go, and then turn him in, I was surprised there. At that point, like, okay, I'm not sure where this is going.
Before we keep going, I forgot to mention a little bit about cloning, and how this is working parallel with the Batbatch, which I think there's like a 30-year gap between the Batbatch and where we are with them and the loading. But in the Batbatch, there's this subplot that we saw at the end of season one, and we've seen a little bit in season two, as we get closer to the end, it's all this cloning subplot. And I guess with the Batbatch, it's not too much a subplot, since all of them are clones, and with Omega being the last one. But with Mount Tantis at the end, and you bring about the Kaminoans, you know, okay, this is building up to cloning, is this how Papa didn't return, since Snorke and all that stuff, and all the jokes and memes out there.
And now this episode of the Mandalorian was very close to that, because there was a lot of cloning talking. How it's not really what the new Republic wants to do, there's a lot of laws against it, don't do it. But if I could keep doing my research, then it's gonna help a lot of people, like my mom was that alive, some people are there saying that that's his tail, when he kind of pulls on his ear, he's a tail that his line, he does that when he talks about his mom dying, because they couldn't have cloned the organs that she needed to be able to live. And then when he's talking to this, not trying to up his droid, I miss you, ITO, from the Alpha with the current Trinity, you should have been there, you're not going into the truth behind it.
Well, this droid, I guess a social worker droid, asking if he has any complaints, or any negative thoughts against the Republic, and then at the end he does the same, he'll pull when he says no, but at this point we know that he does have that. So, is he already, did he lie about his mom in order to be more sympathetic and get the crowd on his following, as we see when he's working out? But anyway, there's this big cloning subplot now that we saw in season one of the Mandalorian, where Dr. Pershing along with the client, was trying to get baby Yoda's blood, or Grogus blood, and able to probably clone him, or do whatever, and now it's coming back, it's this old time, again, to power button returning, that's equal to the other end with Snoke.
So I don't know how I feel with having both shows and they're not at the same time, the Mandalorian, the Bad Bash, both having the same cloning subplot, 30 years with this 30 year gap. Some people are saying it's cloning, it's Star Wars, of course it's gonna be there, which I agree, but I wish it was a little bit different that we weren't hitting the same plot bits as we're going on at the same time. Anyway, doesn't make that much of a difference. All right, so he sent back to reconditioning, the mind flayer that we got a little nod at the beginning, he said, this is a mind flayer, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that bad, it's just, we're not as evil as the empire, this is just a little brain scramble, don't worry about it, it's a trap.
It just looks at the camera like, really? You have to say it, okay, I gotta turn that up to 11. The only problem I have with that scene is this is new technology. The doctor there says, this is a new technology, we're still kind of working around it.
Okay, I'm gonna head out. As soon as we turn it in, I'm gonna head out, I'll be back when you wake up over here. And then the technicians turn it on, okay, let's leave. Everyone knows if there's a medical procedure, no one leaves the patient.
So I know it's Star Wars, I know it's lights, everything, glasses going in pew pew, but come on, that's not the way it happens. So that to me, kind of just, as soon as he walks out, he says, hey, let's set out. Okay, something is gonna happen. So then she does the turn again, and cranks it up to 11, which why?
If this machine is supposed to just be a little bit of wavy lines just to make you feel better, why does it go all the way around? Just do like two settings. It's six and a toaster that you need to crank to six, and then burns everything in two seconds. Just leave it at two, there's no need, there's no need for that needle to go all the way.
Don't put that there, it's gonna happen. So were you guys surprised that Elia Ken is still working with Mavdivian? Is she, was this done to keep Dr. Prashin Kwaay?
So we don't say anything else that Mavdivian was doing in terms of cloning. Is it to keep the new Republic dumb to throng being out there? Or is it just to have his mind in a state that can be, kind of bringing back to the fall of the Empire and bringing back to Mavdivian, make it a little bit easier for his mind to be messed up again by Ken, you know, by Gideon, which we don't know, there's the DSK, the day hooked him up from my flayer, we know he's gonna be back. We don't know at this point if he escaped already or not.
So she's gonna be interesting when we get this, to say where Mavdivian has been. And no, Michael is nothing to fix that sequels will let you say in quotes, everything is cloning, they will fix the sequels. I think we're on the same boat that the sequels don't need to be fixed. But I do understand that they're using these two, and I feel some plots or I feel some holes that people may have with the sequels, especially some help out but in return, which again, it's Star Wars, if we're talking about cloning Star Wars, Star Wars have these general scenes and things that we don't need to know everything that happened.
Is there, go with it. All right, so we start wrapping up our talk on the Mandalorian. Again, let us know your thoughts on this little subplot and what you think this is heading. Are we gonna see more of this?
Is this a one off in terms of seeing Dr. Pershing and like a king? Do we think we're gonna see them again this season? Are we gonna get more episodes like this with this type of tone telling us what's going on with the new Republic?
I didn't, I forgot to talk about the things more that you mentioned at the beginning. It's the new Republic, by the time of the force awakens, even if we're still like 25 years away from it, 23, depending how many, how much years have passed between seasons, we know because of bloodline that they don't have an army. Mavdivian decided to kind of put that away. We don't want to go through the same thing at the Empire when we don't need a specific army out there and navy.
And that's where layers have no other things happening out there, we need something that's where the resistance is born. We start to see that now, right? There's not a lot of concern at the moment for any MP low remnants, which is weird because if you read the alphabet, it's called on trilogy and everything that's happened up until now, we know that the Empire, those remnants are still out there. The alphabet trilogy goes for plenty of years, I think, or at least one or two years after the special the second Death Star.
So about three years or four before the Mandalorian. So why at this point are we already like, yeah, yeah, we don't know where is, let's just change everything, give everyone numbers, have them do the same job as this high class prison, basically where they're leaving. I like that apartment. That apartment that person has was pretty nice for being in this reconditioning program.
Oh, we got a shout out to U-mate, the highest mountain in Churricent. I reported shout out if you read Lydo Dejeda and Chancellor Lena So has a commemoration over there. So that's great to hear, hopefully we get to see it during the acolyte. All right, so yeah, Mo, I hope we see her again.
I can't believe I just forgot the name of the actress which has been in my mind for weeks now, but she was also in the latest, and then movie, Contomania, Cathy O'Brien, and she's been everywhere, she's a great actress. So hopefully we do get to see Mo and get support her rights, especially her wrongs. Again, she did a great job. I don't mind her acting in this and the way that plot kind of worked out, it's just a place in a way.
So I'll come back to this, let's finish talking about the episode. We go back then to kind of cap off where the episode started with Din Jaren and Bo-Cattan. Going to this planet, I don't think we've heard the name of the planet or moon or wherever they are. It's a secret place where his covert is with the armorer past Vislan all this.
So they get there, like, okay, here we go. I've been waiting a year and a half, or a season and a half for the confrontation between Bo-Cattan and the armorer. The armorer, this is the way, you don't remove your helmet. And the Bo-Cattan is just a cold, what are you doing, Din Jaren?
Here we go, it's gonna get there. And then past Vislan meets her, which we know Vis-C-Cree's have a little bit of beef. Oh, who are you, Knight Owl? Cool shout out.
Oh, and Bo-Cattan, Kris, or Bo-Cattan or the Kris clan, of clan trees. You're both apostate, so get out of here. No, I bathed in the waters, yeah, I saw it. Oh, let's talk to him or see what's gonna happen.
Dust a little water, yeah, you're right, you're redeemed. Then you also get in the water, yeah, I have to save his ass when he fell down and couldn't get back up. All right, you're both redeemed, this is the way. And that's it.
All right, really? I've been waiting a year and a half, for a season I have to have these two Mandalorians, with very different points of view on what makes a Mandalorian a true Mandalorian, and nothing came out of it. It's like, yeah, that's it. You took a dip in the water, we're all friends now.
And that to me was a big lead, and I wanted to have more between Bo-Cattan and the armor, I think that's something that's been built up for so long, that not to have it felt like a mistake. But, and you put it down there, and we're gonna, sorry, getting before I get to talk about it, well, you say maybe they'll expand on it more than in the season, I think you're right, because two reasons. Bo-Cattan to start with, she didn't say this is the way she's not, I don't believe that she's now part of this Mandalorian, where children of the watch, I don't think she's all in. I know she's still debating now that she saw the mythosaur, the waters where there's some of her beliefs are getting pushed, she's gonna have other people left.
That's when we saw her at the beginning of the season was all my people left, they took my ships, I came back without the dog saver so I'm out, she's all alone, that we said she's all alone in her castle. And now as soon as the armor said, this is the way you're both redeemed, everyone except for past Bislav will come back to it, goes to congratulate her and high five almost, just saying that the shoulders, now she has this other family that she can say, okay, these people like set me just for being here, basically, I'm part of them, they're not leaving me. So she was gonna have that going on in her head. But I still think it's gonna come back because just because she saw one underwater creature, I don't think her whole belief system is out the door.
So I think that's still going to play out. I just wish that it happened right there, the first time that they met each other, they had a great conversation about those dueling beliefs. Hopefully it will come back later, putting my faith that it's gonna come back later, I don't think that all of us are in our book and forgot everything, now she's on team armor and then everyone's gonna be part of the cult of the children at the watch, I don't think it's gonna be there. All right, so that kind of brought an end to the episode.
This was the longest episode, so far in the whole series of the Mandalorian, basically one hour, it was about 58 minutes, not counting credits and all that, we're about 58 minutes, but the beginning at the end that Mando seen is we're about 50 minutes with our falling between the new Republic stuff. Next episode, they're saying it's gonna be the shortest episode of the series, only 30 minutes, which is if you count the previously on and then the credits, let's say it's about four minutes, five minutes, so we're looking at about a 25 minute episode, which I will be very concerned about. But I think we said it earlier in the show is that it doesn't matter. If that's the length that they need to tell the story, then that's the length that we need.
We don't need them to just rush through it or give us 20 minutes of people just walking or just landscape shots. If 25 minutes is all they need to tell this, well, this story, then that's fine. Just make it meaningful. So this is what I think happened.
And again, I have no insight, knowledge, I don't know anyone in the business, I don't know how they written and edited together, I have no idea, this is just my thought. So I think that this new Republic subplot was obviously something that was going to show up in the Rangers of the New Republic show. It fits that show perfectly. And if I see that episode there, I will be raving and ranting how much I loved it.
I think Lucasfilm, which I don't go hard on them, Lucasfilm, Katik and Eddie, anyone in charge in saying that they're doing things wrong, again, dirty producers, they're the executives, they know everything that I don't know about how TV shows are made. But I think it was a mistake canceling the Rangers of the New Republic TV show. Understand everything happened with Gina Carano, get her out of here, I don't care about that. I think that Cara don't character, even though people now say how bad it was, I think had potential to do something, especially in this type of show.
So I would hope that they will have just piled forward, pushed forward and said, we're gonna continue with our vision, which is this Rangers of the New Republic show, will recast Cara Dune or bring in another character that can fill that role, probably just recast. People really are not gonna care. The recast actors every day, basically in Hollywood. And just give us that show, because if you do register the New Republic between season two and season three of the Mandalorian, showing this decay of the New Republic and everything happening, then you come to Mandalorian with that basically two-year gap in between.
We don't have the issues we have before about how they grow. We spent two years with Luke Skywalker, while it was Mando doing for two years. You have that show in the middle with Book of O'F and somewhere in between, it makes a lot of sense. And then this episode makes more sense.
I wish they had gone with that initial view that they had, the initial slate, and just pushed through. I think Luke has to have a problem that if one thing goes wrong, they reach off all everything, I think that's a mistake. They did it with John with Tras, who was supposed to do the movie for Book of O'F, but when the fantasy form movie kind of chapped out, this movie, the Book of O'F, something didn't do well. Okay, no, you're gone.
So I think they do have this, I don't know, this thing that if something doesn't happen the way they wanted to, or just one little error, they just, okay, scratch that. Let's go the other direction. And I think that was a mistake with canceling the range of the New Republic. So if this one's gonna be the tone of it, and the way it's gonna be about everything happening with the New Republic, and the first order and throwing working things on the outside, then it brings everything together.
So I think it was a mistake. Anyway, when we see now that the next episode might be on the 25-minute episode, 30 minutes, which I'm guessing is gonna be now the pirates over taking Navarro. Next episode is directed by Cal Wether. So it makes sense that they're going back to Navarro, makes sense that it's the pirate takeover of the planet, and then Dinjara, Volcaten, and the rest of the Mandalorians go to that, to Navarro to help out.
That's gonna be like a 20-minute action episode. We don't need more than that. And if that's the case, then I think that what we got with the Mandalorian this week, and the episode next week was originally gonna be one episode, because it makes sense to do all that together, but they had to bring in this New Republic subplot in the middle. I think that's what's gonna happen next week.
At least we get Pirate King Golden Shard, which I did miss this week. Hopefully he comes back next week. And if that's what happens, I can, we don't need a 40-minute action episode just for that. If it's 25 minutes, probably at the beginning, all five comes, hey, I got a message from this guy from Navarro.
We gotta head out. We're all now in the same covert. Everyone helps. I think that's gonna be it.
And that's why it's gonna be a shorter episode. Just makes sense to have it together. The only, one of the issues I'm having with this season is the waste so far is being structured. I mentioned at the beginning with the first episode, even though I did love it, going to Zibok and Dinjara make sense to me for that episode.
So in the waste getting caught up is kind of weird. But anyway, after next week, we're gonna be halfway through the season, which is going by pretty fast. So we'll see where we're at at that point. It's the Mandalorian and his Star Wars.
We have Grogo there, so I do enjoy it. And I can't wait for next week. All right guys, so let us know any other thoughts that you have in the chat that are snowing. We're gonna go talk about the Bad Batch in a minute.
And if you're watching this later, also let us know in the comments, all your thoughts about the Mandalorian, the convert. Episode three of season three, but now let's switch paces a little bit and talk about the Bad Batch and Paboo. I think it was the name. Paboo is the Bad Batch.
They're on a job with Pirate Fee, which is not a pirate. She doesn't steal things. She liberates items. She's a liberator of artifacts.
They're on this bar or something, this cantina. And they're getting double across. It was a temple of doom, or march, the beginning of temple of doom. We got the poison wounds from, at the cloned show, so, prequel crates, drink up.
So very good setup. Hunter being hunter and the batch just wrecking shop. But anyway, they're getting on the ship. And we talked about it before.
What's gonna happen with sea? They're gonna slowly push our way. And we started seeing this also. Yeah, I'm always saying that the Bad Batch has been hitting home runs lately.
And I agree. Last couple of episodes have been very good. I'm not on the camp that says that the Bad Batch has been better than the Mandalorian. But I do see it.
The top is out. A lot of people are saying this, they're enjoying the Bad Batch more than the Mandalorian. So far, that's great, right? Because animation unfortunately gets a backseat to live action, even though I prefer live action.
A lot of people don't know what's gonna happen with the Bad Batch if we're gonna get a third season, the way streaming works, everything's getting canceled left and right. We love it, they're still hopeful you. And of course, putting the Mandalorian right then, as the Bad Batch is gone, they can away some of the views. So I do enjoy seeing that the Love for the Bad Batch is still there, even though it's not my favorite series, the Love for is still there.
The group is ghosting Sid. Sid said, she's been trying to contact them for about 20 rotations. Oh, excuse me. I guess that's 20 days.
That's a big, almost three weeks with no contact. So that's gonna be very interesting to see how it all works out. Feed those and you don't want to double cross Sid. Sid knows about them.
Some of the secrets in Omega we talked about before. Is it gonna be the one that we traced them? It gives the entire information about Omega. It's pushing to that scene.
But then Feed tells them, you know what? Maybe you're not caught out for this. Maybe take a break. Come with me.
Let's go to PABU, which I don't remember if she said that's a home planet or just because it's filled with refugees. It's also where she grew up. Maybe she was a refugee and that's where she has her base. This is where she takes those artifacts as she liberates.
And then like she also said, Omega needs a friend's her age, her gender not you guys go on missions, sorry, she needs to be surrounded by kids, have that experience. That's what she gets. As soon as she gets to PABU, she meets someone there. I forgot the name of the mayor of PABU, who knows everyone is big guy, no, but I just pairs away with record.
But it gives the bad bash the scene, this idea of what life can be like after seed and after doing missions. Are they ready to just hang it up and say, you know what, we've done enough. Let's just take our time. But of course, it's the bad batch you start with, it can't end like that.
So we have this tidal wave that comes with some tremors, earthquakes, tsunamis coming. And they have to get out of the city, help everyone out. And they're working together. They're too safe people.
They don't have to go on battle the empire, battle stone trooper, just saving people on this planet on this city, which is something they could do if they lived there. Tech is having a girlfriend with Fi, we have a new ship out there, Fi, Tech, or whatever we're gonna call them. And I keep saying, I hope, I don't think that someone from the bad batch crew is going to die by the end of season two. But if someone does, it's gonna be Tech.
I think they'll be in telegraphing it. America spent most of her time with Tech, also with Ecuador, the beginning of the season. Now he's gone, so that was a gut punch. With Tech, they're also kind of showing a lot of him.
Now this connection I have with Fi, I'm afraid that Tech might not make it or at least be the one that will be in danger by the end of the season. So we'll see where that goes. We didn't get nothing with cross air disease or nothing with the Empire. So it was a smaller episode, more contained.
Just in the bad batch, relax for a second and seeing what life might be. And they told the mayor, who here will help you reveal. They're not just leaving, they're gonna be there for a while because yeah, place you're pretty destroyed at those lower levels. It's gonna be interesting to see how they fix the place up.
If they decide to stay, it also might be a setup too. If there's no more bad batch after disease on that, maybe they just end on on Paboo, and they're happy there. We don't see them again in Rebels or anything, Rex doesn't go to them. So we'll see where it goes.
I'll be surprised if they don't announce a season three in celebration. There's a season two for the Bad Batch panel at celebration. So I'm guessing and hoping they'll be announced there. I think this series doesn't, at least one more season two, wrap it up.
Hopefully it doesn't just get chopped up. But as we've seen in this landscape of streaming television, nothing is safe. I love the other people love. Did I get canceled?
No, I just on hiatus for another two years. Maybe we'll come back in five or in one. We have no idea. I know these are the shows I get, keep getting canceled just because something is Star Wars doesn't mean it's gonna get renewed.
So we'll see. We'll have to wait. Hopefully we'll get announced at celebration. We'll see what else gets announced.
All right. So that brings an end to our talk on the Bad Batch and on the Mandalorian. But as always, I ask out there to hear from you guys. You see what your thoughts are on the series out there.
So let's go to our segment. Well, here about you guys, Rebel Thoughts. Well done. You're Rebel now.
A Rebel now. When I first came from my friend from the Scariff podcast, just row at the Royal Gas Guy, Rise Bad Batch has had a nice intimate story. Nothing heavy. We got a cool new locations and some questions for the crew to ponder.
And he continued by saying, Mando was interesting. I see everyone's complaint. The demand to stop was good. The Persian stuff was fine.
Although I feel the audience are fading quick. Let's talk about both of these separate. We did mention this before. Mo also said that the Bad Batch has been hitting it already part recently, a nice intimate story.
And we mentioned what this means now to the batch. They have like Rose saying this new thing to ponder. Are we ready to retire? Now we have these place people that embrace us.
Can we stay here? So it's gonna be interesting. If someone comes to them to, hey, we need to go win Echo and Rex come back. Hey, we need to go do whatever and help the other clones out there.
Even help Crosshair. Maybe they already laid back on Pablo. Hey, we found our new Vanna here. We don't need to leave to see how that's in Arab.
It's very interesting. Never been the Lorian. I haven't seen anyone call this a filler. I know that people preemptively went out to say, if you call this filler, blah, blah, blah, you don't know this story.
I didn't hear anyone say filler. But I've read and talk about Twitter. And it's been interesting that this is Audiman Dalorian people are more look one on the first two. For two season, Audiman Dalorian was pretty heavily favored for most of the fans.
This season, they need help. Or now that's not the right word. People are not as quick to shout praises at the Mandalorian so far this season. Maybe it's because Andor, maybe it's because we got all these, since last week's of the Mandalorian, we got Book of All Effect, Kenobi Andor and now two seasons of the Bad Vashor.
Maybe people are expecting a little bit more. So I do see some of the issues there with the fans maybe not connecting. The only thing for me is some of the story lines are going pretty quickly. I thought that the whole convert thing, getting redeemed was gonna be most of the season.
It's already resolved by the end of the third episode. I do think that they're gonna be a bit fast to get to some other storyline. They're not sure yet what it's going to be. I'm off getting on the pirates.
We'll see next week as we reach the midpoint of the Mandalorian. All right, well, let's follow with our friends on Twitter. Saturday, AM0 at Stake, Lassie, SDCC. This episode of Hashadeem Mandalorian shows Disney Star Wars, JJ and KK had a plan the whole time.
They were playing chess when the haters were playing checkers, continues on same. When it's all said and done, it will be seen as a masterstroke. That will be hard to ignore, be patient and be rewarded. So this is almost, I cannot directly straight at me.
I can be patient. I love the sequel trilogy. I'm not a JJ, Hater, and some people. A lot of people didn't like what happened with the Rhett's Skywalker, Rey and Betsolo.
I engaged with the story that we got and I enjoyed it. So I'm a defender of both of them. So even though I had some of my issues with Mandalorian, I do hope it sticks to the landing. But yes, this is all building to the sequel trilogy, which we've known even before the season.
The series started, we were told this is the beginning of the first order. I just maybe just came out too fast. I wasn't ready for it, but you're right. Let's just wait till the end and see what happens.
And I almost didn't show this. I don't know why I'm showing this comment. I'm going to put it out anyway, but I don't know. I apologize.
I had a time, but it comes from Aoty. It's out of his sentences. He's tweeting, Aoty at Epistagas. I haven't watched it, but but yet no surprise.
He always watched it like five minutes before going live. But I really liked Mando and I changed of pace, but also opening up the world building a bit and giving us hints of what's to come for the rest of the season. And if you finish up saying not enough, God and short, though, and I do agree, we didn't get enough God and short next week, giving all that vegetarian pizza to the heart or a seaweed man. Again, Mando, I changed of pace either.
I don't say love, they don't hate it. I think most people love. I really like that scene. It's just a placement of it.
Some of us had issue with it. We'll get Aoty's thought next week on it. All right, so that brings an end to our talk on Star Wars and the Bad Batch and the Mandalorians. So let's go now to our other segment.
We talk about something else that's not Star Wars in a world between Fandoms. Toodoo! All right, the world between Fandoms. The last of us, like I said, season one came to an end last Sunday, tomorrow will be the first Sunday in two months with no last of us.
A great series for someone who never played a game, didn't know anything about this story. I enjoyed this from beginning to end. A kind of way to see where season two is going to bring. I've been saying that I was really happy in an episode and then a cliffhanger, Aoty said, be ready.
Season one ends basically on a cliffhanger. A very controversial episode. I thought it was also a very controversial ending for the game. The Joe made a correct decision.
Let's go into it. So it starts with Ellie's mom giving birth in the middle of this zombie apocalypse. And we see why she's in me and why Ellie's in me and her mom gets beat as soon as she's giving birth. She's able to cut the umbilical cord.
Maybe someone went through the game for immunity but not enough to turn her into one of these clickers. So we see where the immunity comes from. We also learned, and this was great, because all through the season she's very protective of that knife and of her clothes and her jacket. When she goes to North Dakota and they take her clothes away, where's my clothes?
I want my jacket and this purple thing. And here we learn the knife was her mom and the jacket was her mom. The only thing she had to remember her birth month by some glad that we got that very emotional right there. The beginning with Ellie and Joel, they seem almost out of character for what we've known throughout the season.
Joel was very upbeat and happy. Again, he feels like he got his family back. Like he got his daughter back after saving Ellie. So he's making these jokes, making all these comments.
And Ellie is just basically numb. She hasn't recovered from this traumatic experience as she went through a couple of days before a week before because they were already by South Lake City. But yeah, they're by South Lake City at this point. So some time has gone by.
So for Joel, he's all this happy, ha ha ha. And Ellie's numb, she still doesn't know what's going on. She went to all these places she was supposed to be able to help or find someone that could help with that cure. Nothing has kind of gone her way.
So she's still numb, especially after what happened in the previous episode. That they don't even recognize when the fireflies are there. They throw this gas bomb or this flash bomb and then flash grenade and then they cut. And then the episode gets very different, very quick.
When Joel is in this bed, Marlene is there. We haven't seen since episode two. I think we're episode two, yeah. Episode one, I've actually haven't seen her since then.
We also learned that she was friend with Ellie's mom. That's why she had her at the beginning. And when Joel is told, yeah, this is why. We're not just taking her blood.
We're going to do a brain surgery because that's where everything works. And in order to find a cure, we have to take all this stuff away from her brain where the codiceps are kind of hanging out. And when Joel kind of understand what's going on, he's like, ah, no, I gotta turn back to this John Wick, basically. And he just goes to be so remote, which I love.
Death Mode Joel is the best. And he just takes out the whole hospital, including the doctor. And then Pixel Kelly goes out, he didn't kill the nurses. So I'll just give him that.
And he's confronted by Marlene, trying to explain. It's either you keep her and you get to live her life with her and you condemn the whole planet or she dies. And we say the planet, right? And he has that decision.
But at this point, he's a friend that just got his daughter back. He's not just going to let her die again. So he makes a choice. He couldn't do at the beginning of the season.
Same visuals holding on to her daughter carrying her with someone confronting them. And he's able to do the Han Solo and do the first shot. Again, Ellie never got a chance. She didn't get a choice, I should say.
Didn't get a choice from Joel to see if she wanted to be. They wanted to make that decision to either be safe and find something another way to cure everyone or sacrifice herself in hopes that they're able to find a cure. Because that's the thing. This is one doctor in this post-apocalyptic world saying that this is going to work.
We don't know if that was going to work. Maybe Joel just wanted a second opinion, right? He's taking her to someone else who gets a second opinion. That's what we're told to do.
And of course Marlene didn't give a choice because she didn't tell her what was going to happen. No, we just didn't tell her just so she was calm. Maybe that's when Ellie kind of says, no, I don't want to go through. So she never gets a choice to decide her fate, her future.
There is some of her to be there. She never gets that. And by the end when she tells Joel, hey, it's right to me that what you just told me was the truth, that they couldn't help out. There were other people out there immune.
So they all used to. Yeah, that's right. She knows his line. And then the episode ends there.
She said, weird way. It felt a weird way to end the season. So we'll see where it goes. For season two.
I haven't played the game. I'm not going to get any spoilers out there. But what's Joel right in terms of taking that decision away from Ellie? And I know there's a lot of different debates out there.