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EPISODE · Jan 17, 2026 · 51 MIN

S6 Ep20: Playing Stupid Games, Winning Stupid Prizes (with Bill Kristol)

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There's a lot of bad news right now—so much that none of it is breaking through that much to the voters we talked to. From the ICE killing of Renee Good to the Epstein files to the criminal investigation into Jerome Powell, Bulwark editor-at-large Bill Kristol joins Sarah for a reflective conversation on the tough times we live in and how voters are processing them.Get $30 off your first box and free croissants for life when you visit https://Wildgrain.com/FOCUSGROUP.Previous shows discussing the Epstein Files:With Will Sommer (November 2025)With Ashley Parker (September 2025)With Will Sommer (July 2025)

There's a lot of bad news right now—so much that none of it is breaking through that much to the voters we talked to. From the ICE killing of Renee Good to the Epstein files to the criminal investigation into Jerome Powell, Bill Kristol joins Sarah for a reflective conversation on the tough times we live in and how voters are processing them.

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