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EPISODE · May 22, 2023 · 54 MIN

S6 EP21: Heir to the Empire Movie?

from Radio Rebellion: A Star Wars Podcast · host Alberto M Calderon

Is Dave Filoni directed Star Wars movie titled Heir to the Empire and will it follow the Timothy Zahn story? As the WGA fights for better wages for its writers, some SW series halt production. Skeleton Crew adds Jaleel White as a pirate and Freddie Prinze Jr. is apparently done with Kanan and Star Wars. Less than two years since its maiden voyage, the Galactic Starcruiser is no more. Follow Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars Link Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp=1

Is Dave Filoni directed Star Wars movie titled Heir to the Empire and will it follow the Timothy Zahn story? As the WGA fights for better wages for its writers, some SW series halt production. Skeleton Crew adds Jaleel White as a pirate and Freddie Prinze Jr. is apparently done with Kanan and Star Wars. Less than two years since its maiden voyage, the Galactic Starcruiser is no more. Follow Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars Link Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp=1

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Rebellion to build on hope. Welcome to our episode, great everyone. I'm Star Wars fan, Casanjo host, and I'm going to talk about the run-on joining us today. I see that every week.

It's like a host, Otty. Are you doing today, Otty and the Star Wars Saturday? I'm doing good. I'm very tired.

I'm very sleepy. That's what that hit will do. I'll just knock everyone down. Yeah, and I usually have two coffees a day.

I've only had one, so I'm like... Oh, there you go. I blame you on the coffee. Otty's been a while since we had, like, since I've seen you and I actually had a regular Star Wars show.

You weren't here at the beginning of the month when I talked about visions. Last two episodes with very special interviews. And now we're back. We're back.

It's been quite fun these past couple of days, right? It really has. I was just telling you, I had a ton of fun with both interviews. Yeah, we'll talk a little bit about them as we go on, but before we start, as always, make sure they subscribe to our channel.

If it's your first time, just click that subscribe button, just so you don't miss any special episodes of our regular episodes when they drop on Saturday. Make sure you comment down below if you're watching this later. On the replay, and hit that like button so we can know that you like it with a little symbol that goes like this. If you don't like it, then just keep scrolling.

Keeps your own give us a thumbs up and then keeps scrolling. I don't even know how to start now, Otty, because I'll say, no, wait, that's something we're going to start talking about. Do the hell is keeping thing with the? I don't even know who's there.

We're saying the chat today. Okay, we have Brandon right now. Hi, Brandon. Hi, Brandon.

How you doing? Let us know. All your thoughts on everything we're going to be talking about. You know what?

I'm going to start with it because I've been showing some of my newest what? No, I just wanted to comment on something that I did on Wednesday. Was it when we were with Tom? Yes.

I just wanted to apologize to the chat because I know they were sending in questions. Yes. Well, we had made a conscious choice of not taking audience questions. Yeah, thanks for saying that.

I did tweet that out later that day for the same reason. I saw people putting the questions and they were good questions, but it's what we can do. When we first started talking to these people to help, maybe try to connect with a few authors or whatever. The thought process is always there.

All this has the chance to see what questions they have. But unfortunately, as we learned this process, it's something very controlled. We can't just put it out. They just to throw them on the device because we don't know what's coming, what they can answer, what they can.

So it's really just to unfortunately don't bring the chat. I did. I did. If it was just like to run into that, I just didn't do it.

But I tried it. Yeah. So one asking about the art book, how do we get our books and something else? I think something with the future is like, no, we cannot touch those.

Yeah. All right. Some of them have something to say out there about those. That thing you always have back there with in jar and doing something to book at hand.

So someone who might have something to say because he doesn't he doesn't approve with what's going on back there. I'm off getting here that my wife got. I have him like, you got him? All right.

I got a. That's the carbon ice version. Oh, actually this. I guess so it doesn't say it.

But now this I think so fun best way. I don't know. But this one is been a while since I got a black series for this new repoly security. The one is just such a cool design.

That's right. Sorry. That's from the prisoner. Yes.

Oh, so it's pretty awesome. So soon I go back down the shelf. I'm going to redo my office. There are some points I need to move things around, put new shelves in this stuff here.

Well, my phone call is just I'm on stress at the end. Something better. I put on my phone calls in a box and just threw them in a storage unit. I'm here.

Yes. Send them over. I know. No, I know.

My neighbor who was also always fans sometimes just calls me. Hey, I'm down. Downsized and a little bit. Do you have this?

I don't care. Just get into me. So I get a bunch of Ewoks. Some repeats.

It doesn't matter. I then take it to my work office. All right. So what the if you guys already I'm not ready less talk Star Wars and like we're talking right as we started.

We haven't really had a regular show. I would say in about a month. But you know the month so was vision season two came out. I spent over an hour just by myself talking about visions.

Well, I haven't heard your thoughts. Give me a recap of just your vision season two thoughts. Did you enjoy it in general? Any episode that stood out anything that was kind of me?

How do you compare to season one of the constant? Yeah, I was just telling you I'm right though that I made like a mistake and I downloaded them for my trip and I apparently it or maybe the download wasn't completed when I left. But the last episode I have not seen I was just going over the episodes to like recap a little bit and what's this last episode that I've not watched. So yeah, I'm missing that episode.

But overall, I was very surprised with the two of Star Wars visions. I really, really stop at it. I can hear it. So I just want to make around.

Okay, stop moving it. I was saying I really, really love season two with season one. There were like a few episodes that I enjoyed, but but here I don't think there was I think I love something out of every single episode. And I think that's what surprised me.

I love that they took this different approach to hey, let's bring in other countries other animation styles to work on these charts and I the Sith was an episode that I was like, what a banger to start with. I love that. I'm your mother. The spy dancer was awesome that we're twists at the end.

And you're like, what? Very Star Wars. Yeah. And screech is reach was an episode that I think I didn't really understand the first time I watched it, then like going back to us like, oh, this is what they're doing.

So I think overall in the stars into the stars. Yeah. Watch the Chile. Oh my God.

That was phenomenal. I really can't pick a favorite. I thought there was something about each and I still have to watch the last one, but there was something about each and every one of them that I loved the bandits of GoLak. That was awesome.

Awesome. Amazing. So again, great job to everyone. Because again, there was not one short that I was like, that was something about each and every one of them that I really liked.

So yeah, I want more. Yeah, I think you and I have a little different perspective on the first season one, a little bit more than season two, but I think season two made a, I don't know, something's weird here. Season two had a harder job, I guess, just distinguishing itself being from so many different countries that at least for myself, if you didn't connect with some of the animation styles, then it was hard to connect with the story. And that was my main problem with a few of them.

Like despite answer, Scritus Ritz with the story is great. But the animation style was a real lacking for me, something that I wouldn't watch a whole future for. So that's why didn't catch me completely. The story was great, but visually I had so much with it.

But Seth loved it. But it's of GoLak. I am your mother, all those and then into the stars, those four were my top favorite. And then everything else was pretty good.

But I think for this one, one, I felt more, I had more to pick to choose or was my favorite one. I had more there. I, opening with Seth, I think was like a grand slam and I'm a snake at the same time. Because I think that's the one where the animation is so much a part of the storytelling and what the story really is.

And it was just jaw dropping to see like everything play out. But I'll push back a little bit with Scritus Ritz because that one has like a very basic animation style. But when they show you like the landscapes and everything, it's gorgeous, gorgeous. Sure.

So and this is the spy dance. That's the spy dance. That one seemed like a nine days card to nothing wrong with that. It just reminded me of like a 90s cartoon.

But again, I thoroughly loved season two. Yeah. Can't wait for more and really hoping that season three does the same thing that they go to different countries to get all those different animation styles and not just any animation style, but how every country put their whole history and their culture into each of the shorts. That's very important and something that if the for Japan, at least for the for Japan that first one, you can get bits and pieces where you don't didn't get that whole experience.

I guess they were season two. Also the pit was freaking awesome too. Again, I love that. Everything.

All right. Let's take a quick look back at this. I don't want to see two. It's been like five days.

Here Lydia can go through of character. She has a new story coming out in the. So we're seeing side of books. She just announced another white able for that she's writing not so I was related and of course don't hold it as you know editor.

So when I started speaking for myself and I then you can add your bit, but when I started this podcast, it wasn't all I just want to talk to start with creators out there. I just want to talk so I wasn't see what happens. But now three and a half years later to at least have this opportunity to spend an hour with someone who wrote a star was book and it wasn't just yes, no, whatever. Yeah.

That's okay. This full on conversations was a highlight that if it ends in terms of only two guests, I'm happy with it. But this hopefully is maybe a step forward to where we can take this show and some guests that maybe we can get in the near future. And in general starts from you before going to a little bit more specifics.

Yeah, no, I was very pleasantly surprised with both both interviews with Lydia. It was interesting because we know we've, you know, we know the other low-minus writers. We know specifically those core five how but with the new rise, I don't really know much about them. I haven't really followed for work that much before.

So it's like, oh, what survived like and I was very happy to see that Lydia is like very much what we think they are behind the scenes. So she again, she was awesome, awesome to have her. What you mentioned, it wasn't just yes, no. Okay, maybe I can tell you.

And with Tom too, he, he, you know, they just like spoken, spoken, spoken, we're like, oh, okay, interesting. So I had a ton of fun with both of them. Yeah. And sometimes we thought I think we talked on ourselves.

We thought we thought before we started talking and think about back to the conversation with Lydia Ken was that nervousness that we felt before is how like you said, what's going to be that by how she don't have responsibility. And so she just see her because unfortunately, she said, yes, and I should be here. She's almost. Yeah, because she doesn't know what she doesn't know what she's getting to both from the moment that she logged on to the stream, which was an attention.

It was, yeah, I was fixing my lights were works around. But since that moment on it just it hit, we didn't have a law. It's like we knew her from way back and that was a complete surprise. And I'm so glad that we were able to break the ice that quickly.

For me, I was like, how is it? I got to go right to the band enough because, you know, of the co-host, but I usually like you lean in. And I was just like sitting here and you were doing something on the background. Oops, she pops out.

Oh, and I had her. I was like, hi, Lydia. You put that on the show now. Yeah.

Oh, you're joking front of her or that's okay. You were yelling at me in Spanish. I was like, oh, she's here. You come here joking front of our guests also.

That's fine. Oh, you said that we weren't going to have an episode today. Yeah. That's okay, George.

I know I think that I really love is how open she was about the privilege of writing a Star Wars book and not that fear about the anxiety because it's not just her reputation. It's Star Wars reputation, defense reputation. You can just assume that's going to be a hit just because it's Star Wars. And the same thing, it's true for movies and TV shows just because it's always going to be a hit 100%.

So what that fear and for her to say, yeah, I don't know anyone that might have that train of thought. But there's a real insight that comes behind writing an IP and something to Star Wars because of that history. And I love that she said that because we talked with our other as fans. Even if we don't like a story, sometimes people say what's the easiest comment that they do?

Oh, they just don't understand. They don't care about characters or they're better writers or all this. We are not in the same thing, all the pressure that they're feeling at that point. I can't remember if we talked about this before we started or during the interview.

But there was something that she mentioned that I really related to where she's like, Hey, I don't know the name of every ship. I don't know the name of every door. I love Star Wars. I love the themes.

And that's what I want to see. Like I think sometimes she did mention this when we were off air. She was like her biggest fear was us being here like quizzing her and being like, Oh, you're a fake fan. And I really like that because I think sometimes we want the creators to love Star Wars as much as we do.

And sometimes, for example, Jay Jay Ryan, they grew up even now Garrett Edwards, they grew up with Star Wars. So they have a love for it. But I just need them to like understand the franchise and what it is. What's the purpose?

What are the stories supposed to carry across? And talking to Tom, he was so empathetic. In Fatico, he emphasized so much now when they're starting the process. One of the things they discuss is the themes.

What are we saying with the story? How does this align with a larger Star Wars story? And I felt like this massive piece like going through me like, at least the people involved in making the sausage, they get it. What is this supposed to be?

So that made me very, very happy. Yeah, and everyone that's involved in that process. It's the story group. It's five people in this group that we all don't know who they are, but we think we know.

It's all these other things happening back here. I love that. I love from Lydia. She was so proven.

I see all the questions. As soon as we logged off, she started cursing. And they were like, hey, hold here and they were like, yeah, maybe we'll run after that. We'll show anybody back.

There was something I wanted to ask Tom, by the way, I tried to sneak it in somehow, but I just couldn't find a way. I know a little bit more about how the process of starting a story goes about, is it them over at Random House? We should make one, oh, we won book. Then they go to Lucasfilm, or just Lucasfilm, go like, hey, we will like a story related to this.

And then they're in charge of making it happen. Yeah, I think you might have asked it at the end, but when we were off air, then he went and found that book. And then he started talking about Icelandic book, and we didn't have a chance. You asked something about Lucasfilm, how involved?

They had said no to a certain story or something. I never asked him. The first thing when we were off air, that I asked him, how fixed three end? He knows.

Of course we know. Of course, no matter what. And if we're Tom, what surprised me was what an editor actually does, all the stuff that I'm a project manager, how we do baby project all the way from beginning to end, all the meetings that they have with the different authors, the collaboration with the authors, and how excited he seems to be for Rise of the Red Blade, which makes me very excited. It makes me think that he was working on that recently.

Yes, obviously. And I think in the coming weeks, I think more, we just got the first excerpt came out a couple of days ago. I started reading and then stopped in halfway. I honestly don't know if I'm going to read that one.

I'm not sure yet, but I haven't pre-ordered it, so we'll see how we're going. There's so many books, and there's also very expensive. So we've got to read my full-of-life credits out there. But yeah, that comes out in July.

And are we done? Is there one more phase two book that's coming in the light of the July? Oh, always of light in life. So it's a flight in life.

That's in the middle, right? In terms of phase two, phase three. I think that was in September. Okay.

But there's something coming out that we don't know what it is. Soon they have to start announcing. It's almost there. I mean, we know when the first phase three books are coming out, but I remember in the publishing panel, they show the timeline of, okay, this is where phase two ends, this is where phase three starts.

And there was a project in the middle that said to be announced. That's like the first thing coming out, we don't know what it is. We don't know what everything else is coming out, but what is it? Don't think measure is working on something that no one knows about.

I don't know if it's that one or something in the picture. He said he's working on a bunch of things that we don't know about. Yeah. And to have that drop.

Not having it, but to know what's going on. All right, Otis, so this is to Star Wars news. Star Wars news. News, Otis, this shouldn't be here.

There we go. No, sorry. You're gone. There we go.

Now that's gone. So the first thing is this is even news. This is rumor, I should say, that someone is a rumor that can make a hundred percent sense or can make zero sense. But I don't even have my notes.

I'm out of sync. It doesn't matter. We're going with this one. The title for the Filoni movie maybe was announced according to my time to shine hello on Twitter.

Whoever that guy is, apparently he's a big scooper. Says that the title for the Filoni director Star Wars movie will be there to the empire. My time to shine hello also goes on to say that Fabro is only producing for now, and it's all Filoni. Other earlier comments I know that Filoni said that he's working directly with the on Fabro on this movie, plus mostly characters were created or from a lot to do with them.

So Otis, there's a lot of talk on social media, people going not to the game. Finally, we're getting married to Jay, we'll try a workover show up here and all this stuff. And some people saying like, what the hell is this? There's something I was measuring there in that trailer.

So what do you follow? Before you start, I'm going to throw this out there also. Star Wars. Hey, Star Wars rant, Otis.

Everybody empires the name of the Filoni movie. I mean, I'm not going to adjust this to that graphic because I don't have that huge a rant. But eventually we'll use it for more. Yeah, I'll put it on the dance.

Here I go. I don't give about what the name of the movie is. I don't like most of Star Wars movie titles, by the way. I don't like Rise of Skywalker as a title.

I don't like Force Awakens as a title. I don't like Attack of the Clones as a title. So I don't care. Like I just want the movie to be good.

If it's called Air to the Empire, it's called Air to the Empire. And Filoni has this reason why he named it Air to the Empire. Why are people pretending as if this is some sort of indicator of what the quality is of the film. The quality is of the movie.

And to people who are seeing this as we're finally getting the MySQL trilogy calm down. Like it's not going to be that. I'm sorry. I'm very, very sorry.

And if it is, and we have a CGI fest with CGI Leia, CGI Luke, whatever. This is what the times we live in. But just put on the ground people. Like see the story they're creating with the Mandoverse.

Luke has barely been involved. Han and Leia have not been involved at all. Marijade, we don't know if she exists or anything. So don't have those hopes.

Don't have those expectations. You're only playing yourself. And again, I don't care what the title of the movie is. Honestly, I don't know if I said it here or in my podcast.

I was expecting this to be a trilogy and I was expecting it to be Air to the Empire, Dark First Rising, and Last Command. So I don't care. I don't care. It's too early.

They don't announce names or they don't even record it a thing. There's still not even writing maybe. And that's one of our next stories in a few minutes. But like I said before, this is a title that can be 100% true because it makes sense.

They said the name of the movie. But at the same time, that doesn't mean they're redoing or they're adapting the whole book. Because like you just said, look at the Mandoverse. How does that connect to Air to the Empire?

Just because Tron is there. Come on. And all the people saying, oh, you gotta bring Luke Air to the Marijade. Han Solo's gonna be there.

You don't have to make no sense at this point. I don't know how it's going to turn out or whatever. It doesn't make sense to do that story. There's nothing that makes me more cranky than seeing when, for example, oh, if they're calling it Air to the Empire, then they have to know they don't have to do it.

They don't have to do anything. Like shut up. They do whatever they want. And if you don't like it, you don't like it and if you love it, you love it.

That's how every single freaking movie works. And that's one of the reasons also I don't think it's going to be called Air to the Empire. It's like two of you. Oh, it's strong in the post or the entire because from second ago, no, it's with the name.

You know, all the baggage that comes with that. I even have it read the books. So I don't, it can be a placeholder because that's what they do for 90% on movies right now. And then they just call it something else.

So I, like I said, it makes sense they can be called Air to the Empire. But I'm not putting all my stock on it. That's someone freaking whatever my time to shine. Hello, can I just say, yeah, my sources.

What I don't care. Listen, we have Brandon. I'm going to read this. I love the original Air to the Empire.

And I know that this adaptation is going to be very loosely connected with the original story. And I'm okay with it because the creators should create what they want. And I agree. Hey, those are great stories.

Those stories kept star wars alive for a long time. I know a lot of people don't like them. A lot of people love them. And it makes sense that, hey, we have that there.

Let's use elements of this to, you know, it's a story that already works. So retail that story in Philone's way. And it doesn't have to perfectly align with what you read. That book is freaking right there.

You can go on Amazon, buy it. Or if you're such a massive fan, you probably have it on your shelf and reread it. It's still there. Nobody's taking that away from you.

So down people. Hi, I don't know. I can't have it anymore. They've been saying even when they remove legends or ego, they remove the, they said, oh, my God, cherry pick what we want.

And they've cherry picked a lot already. Sometimes if they just read the word to the Empire and bring all those characters and all those stories, then you can start asking them why did you just say that they didn't count, which I can't see them backtracking that much. Picking up a couple of story beats, yeah, makes sense. But like you said, you love it?

Pick it from your shelf, read it again, or create your own version of it. Yeah, and again, Harrison and Mark, Carrie Fisher said, and Harrison and Mark kind of are way beyond their age. So it's not going to happen. I'm sorry.

It sucks. I wish George would have done episodes seven through nine in the nineties. It didn't happen. Yeah, get over it.

And I mean, I just don't for you just having fun saying goodbye to clicking the ad ons. I mean, I just want to come back to the Empire to be a cameo in one movie and to be digitally the age for the years. I just want someone to like someone from the Phantom Menaces sit down. Harrison Ford explained to him why the one in back and he'd be like, but I came back for those other movies.

No, but those aren't canon anymore. Those are what? He was in good morning American on Friday talking about Harry's from about Indiana Jones, the new one. And they asked, also, what are you going to miss about the character?

Nothing. Nothing. He's an actor. He acts like he doesn't miss.

Come on. You're taking care of this. I remember when late run in 2049 was coming out and he was doing press and I think Indy five had already been heavily rumored and someone asked him like, so you're doing Star Wars again. You're doing Blade Runner again.

You're doing Indy five. Are you like on a mission to recreate all your cat classic characters? And he took them like he said, yes, I am. Oh, man, he's the best.

He's the best in interviews. He should be in Star Wars. Yeah. We all take the combination now with all the problems this plus removing movies and TV shows just bring Harry some four to Star Wars who elevated.

We'll away your assets. You know what? No, we got to watch it. You got like three days.

Oh, and I got to watch it. Very well. That's not the best thing. I know this is bad, but you can see now that all the people that define the men as calls, these initials and look as film shields.

I'm not shields because we're all kind of what the hell are you doing with everything that Disney has a corporation is doing right now. Don't remove all these titles. So don't call us a Disney show. I mean, that's so such a weird decision to make.

Even when HBO was why? Why are you taking it away? Like I also make zero sense. I don't know.

I understand. I don't want to pay the residuals to the actors on right or something, which is the worst kind of take at this point in time with. Yeah. We're going to wear a PG 13 show.

That's our effort for the week. Yeah, doesn't make sense. Anyway, we're not going to talk about that today. It's stupid.

All right. Something that's not stupid. Came as a surprise was that actor Jaleo White. In an NHL hockey game, actually Jaleo White, better known as Steve Arco in the Family Matters TV series, which I remember watching as a kid, revealed that he has a part in skeleton crew playing a pirate and that it will debut in either November or December.

I believe it's already been said that Vayne, pirate Vayne from the Dance Season 3 will appear. So seems pretty obvious that Jaleo White might play a pirate in his crew. I just surprised that they just kind of imploded it out. My only thought was like they should interview more actors during a hockey game.

See if they have stars in for me. Yeah. Oh, it was very random, man. But for him, I literally have no expectations for him.

I remember watching Family Matters when I think they put reruns on Nickelodeon or something like that. Nick at night or something. So yeah, I was an Erco fan, but I have literally no expectations of what his character will be. Again, it was very, very random.

Very random. It's someone that we might not even know. It shows, you know, he's like two hours in makeup every day. Oh.

So it's going to be a, again, we'll replace Vayne. I don't know because that's a pretty heavy makeup and prosthetic kind of design. So I'm guessing it's going to be the same. We don't know if it's a different type of area than what we're playing, but it's cool that we're starting to get this little nuggets of information to Skeleton crew, which will be the next one after Ahsoka.

I think that'd be a surprise, not a surprise, but saying that it comes out at the end of the year with Ahsoka one. Ahsoka is what? End of August? I don't know.

I mean, August, it goes on for what? Eight weeks, so September, early October, and then we know that Loki is coming out. Echo is coming out, all those for the MCU. And then drop in that same time from November, and then drop Skydon crew, me too, ladies, and I'll be similar to...

It's probably going to be like, well, we got two episodes in 2023, and the rest come on to it. Ah, all right. So, it's your turn. Well, it's funny for me that the whole headline seemed like a clickbait, but when you saw the interview, that's literally what he said.

Yeah, there is an interview. Yeah, I'm doing this next Star Wars show with Jutla. It's going to be great. I play a pirate.

I'm like, what? Cool. All right. Well, something that might push, not might is pushing.

I think the first thing that I've talked about is the TV shows. It's that both Android and Sisson II and the Mandalorian, Sisson IV have stock adoption due to the current writer strike, as they ask for better pay and compensation from the studio. And this is something that I don't know too much about, so I don't want to miss speak. But basically all the writers are striking.

The union is on strike because they're not getting paid enough, and they don't have the same benefits as before when they were just on regular television and broadcast, with everything being streaming now and as we just alluded to with Willow and some other Disney culture being completely removed from the streamers. And I'm not paying nearly enough as a recidos for these TV shows. I saw a couple of reports that sometimes they don't even have writers room. They do like this.

We can retreat. Let's come up, drop all the ideas, create this show and we can, I will pay you for those today and then go. When they're used to TV series are 22, six months long, they get paid for the pilots, which doesn't have any streaming stuff that the writer should be getting, and that's what they're asking for. So, and their stock production and then Mandalorian Sisson IV, I think, corresponding to pre-production and still in the writing process, it's also hard for now.

I'm all for it. I don't mind. We still have a soca and see how that's done through our basically done. So I'm okay if we have to wait a little bit extra just to make sure the writers get where they deserve.

I'm just happy that this will probably cost the delay on when I have to wake up at 3am again. So I'm happy for that. No, but I completely agree. Like, hey, I think, you know, you and I remember the last strike and a lot of shows went on hiatus.

A lot of movies came out in very good state. So, you know, it's, I think it's wise to help those productions until this gets sorted out and it's important to put the students sorted out because, yes, I want my show, I want my star show to go on, but it's on the hands of the writers. And if they're not getting paid for it, if they're, you know, they're having to sacrifice some of their likelihood for making these shows and I don't think that my wants are that important anymore. So, you know, go get that bread and we'll be here when shows come back.

Yeah. Yeah, at least I haven't seen anyone. Can I say no, get back to work in terms of our country? Oh, I've seen a bunch of people.

I mean, related to these two TV shows, two Star Wars in general. What do you think that Disney and Lucas film at any point, but let's focus a little bit on these writers, how it's affecting. They might just say, let's go with AI for writing some stuff as we've seen. It's in the news now that some players are going to start using AI to write their TV shows, their ad campaigns to try to get them to different demographics out there using AI because real people don't know how to speak to minorities.

Let's bring the computer to do it for us. Do you think that Star Wars or Lucas film? Of course, I always want to push technology forward. If we want them, do you think it might happen?

No, I don't think it. I'm going to say no. Mostly because I don't want that to be true. But I mean, big corporations are going to be corporations.

Yeah. Yeah, as I was just saying that, I remember reading yesterday a little headline saying that Tony Kennedy was in favor of the writers, right? So I don't see her now going to let's just bring Chad DBT to write us a Star Wars story. Because fear is like Bob Eiger showing on me like, hey, copy, I got this computer here.

I'm going to write the motion picture. Let's just write it. Again. Just bring you back.

Just go back to your office. She calls again. She calls again. I'm like, come back.

I'm like, I'm going to stick him into a marble private. Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. I'm very afraid it's not the word, but it's rapidaceous, I guess, of the future landscape of movies and TV shows. Not just Star Wars, but in general, with like, you said, these big corporations and executives kind of decide, let's just use all these AI to create our shows.

Put that cover up. Where is that prompt? And then they give us a story. I can see that working on it right now for like one or two cases, but I just can't see the world just dramatically going into this direction of, yeah, this computer is going to make the story.

It's, I don't know. It's, you know, I'm a musician, like writing. So for me, like, yeah, sure, you can make that and, you know, save yourself a bunch of money, but like, there's going to be a quality drop off. Like, there's no avoiding that.

And I don't know. I think like people would notice like, this is weird or this is like, I don't know. So, and how far ahead can a computer plan like, could it be like, hey, we're going to set this up here and pay it off in season four? Oh, no, no, no.

So I don't know. I think we'll get like a bunch of very bland shows or something. Which we might, we'll see in the, it's going to happen eventually. Like, there's a studio that's going to make a fully AI show.

And even, I think eventually we'll have an AI show or movie that's completely AI. The entire graphics were made AI. The script was AI. The audio is AI.

So it's going to happen. I don't see it being successful. If they, then I know, sorry, we just went up to the, over the rails right now. Not so worse.

If they, they made a movie that's based on AI taking over, whatever, and they use AI to do it. Just kind of, of course, what's up. Have their point of view? Yeah.

That might be interesting. It might be bad. It might be interesting. But to the, just say, oh, we're going to replace all the writers and actors now with deep face and all this stuff.

It doesn't work. The funny thing is I was rewatching the first Terminator from 1994 last week when I went singing probably about 30 years. So, playing me from a bad time. But I think that the future is in like 2028 in that Terminator.

And it's about, and they talk about AI. And we started like, we're getting close. We're getting close. I have a couple of friends who are very into tech and they, you know, they work in designing AI and robots and everything.

And we always have these conversations where I like, they're like talking about how excited they are about this new thing coming out now. My answer is always this. I've seen Terminator way too many times for me to be excited about this. Yeah.

And by the way, I don't like the first Terminator Terminator to one of my favorite movies all time. For most of my teenage years, Terminator 2 just from there was my favorite movie of all time. It's such a freaking cool movie. Yeah, it is.

So we showed our kids the first one because we wanted to see the second one. Oh, okay. You can watch the second one because you're going to know where that theater comes from. That's freaking awesome.

Plus we have now got a new movie that creators want to. We're going to take another taking over. That's so cool. So cool.

So someone who's not saying that Star Wars is cool at the moment is really Prince Junior. That for some reason is something Star Wars recently. That's right. I don't know.

I got two stories I'm going to read, but we probably just got with the second one. But a couple of months ago, he was on the lights camera bar soup podcast. Ken and Jairus voice actor for a Prince Junior said, I don't know if people know this. Oh, so this is talking about Rogue One, which we just mentioned that he said that they feel only actually wrote the director that are very, very whole-wasting.

So I'm not allowed to say this, but I don't care anymore. Well, basically the whole end of the movie where they come through and you see basically what's going to happen in that new hope. He directed all that talking about the Filoni. But Gary, Gary we have a co-writer on Rogue One and I, I, him, how he called have debunked for his comments saying also that Peter Jackson was there.

That guy, Peter Jackson, when I showed that scene. So that's kind of got debunked. It's not, I know that's been debunked a bunch of times. So I don't know why he used to repeating it.

It might be that Filoni helps kind of pay you to do this or that or whatever. Maybe Dave told him he, yeah, I can. Just to get him out of the house. Yeah, yeah.

But there's more earlier this week during a recent appearance on the Big Clean podcast with Christian Hollow. He also added that he didn't want to do that Kynan voiceover, he's a guy walker and he bad-bad as he felt he downloaded the character's impact. And when asked if he would show up in the Soka series, he's a hit with Kynan, he's too old for it. And then he grew up with Star Trek anyways.

They have sex in Star Trek, no one is getting laid in Star Wars. Like, poor Jason, the coolest crime in the corner. That doesn't love me. So, that's so random.

Like, no, he's a cool kid now? Like, no, I have to. Exactly. You're 50-something years old.

You don't need to request it. So he's entitled to his thoughts. I agree to some extent that Kynan characters back that lose impact they had if they bring him back to life. But if it's a flashback, maybe he recorded something on the holochron or something like that, it doesn't dilute his impact.

And then to say I'm done with him, I think he said he did as a favor. Those voiceover and other favors are kind of done now. Pretty sort of, pretty. Right.

Well, he's another Andrew Galford, Jorfield Fae, Liam Neeson, he'll show up actually. I think no, from the way he's been talking recently. No, I honestly don't expect him to show up in a solo. And I never really thought about this.

Like, what'd it be cool? Like, all of a sudden Freddy Prince shows up? Like, yeah, awesome. But I'm definitely not expecting that to happen.

Regarding his comments that it dilutes the, what happened? I have to push back and do it. I love Freddy Prince. And even though with these weird comments, I love him so much.

I think he's been like such a defender of what Star Wars is right now. So I really, really love the guy. And he ends around Michelle Geller, power couple from the 90s. And I just saw that when I see them.

But I have to push back on that because Star Wars is, you know, Obi-Wan Kenobi has this massive sacrifice and he shows up in Empire. And then he shows up again in Return of the Dead Eye. And then we went back and told him this story. And then we went back and made a show about him.

And then we did the Clone Wars. And then we did Red Wars where he shows up. And I don't think that has ever taken away from Obi-Wan's sacrifice and what he was in that original story. And Star Wars has always had this thing of, you know, this character died now we're going to go back and tell his story.

And you know, it's part of how this franchise works. And it's not like the times that we've seen or heard Kane and it's been like, I'm back. I love that line of his from Resin Skywalker. He goes like it.

In the heart of a dead eye, like, Lycer's doing. That's a very Kane in line. And I love it. And I'm happy he was forced to do it.

I mean, Kane and his, my favorite character from Rebels. And like I said, Freddy Prince has always been a defender of Star Wars and people try to bring bring it down. And he's working by the way. So that's why you got, maybe he's the Puerto Rican and him trying to, but I'll say also, he's been asked similar questions I seen in three straight interviews.

So maybe he was just done with answering the same thing over and over. But I was saying, I was saying, start turning. Like you just said for Obi-Wan, Darth Vader made one of the greatest sacrifices, right? Turning back to Anakin Skywalker and getting the Emperor.

And we see more stories with Darth Vader than any other character. He's in every comic line. He was in Rebels. He was in Obi-Wan.

He's been in Rogue One. He's been everywhere. Everyone just goes back to his sacrifice at the end, coming back to life. He doesn't do it.

Unless you for some reason go to the world between worlds and do what Esther wanted to do. It can happen because they died. All that stuff that everyone has said. Why is he angry?

I don't know. He's just weird. He went that round. No one asked me about Star Trek.

No one's talking about relationships in Star Wars. Like you said, you're not a teenager. Who cares? Maybe they were doing it a little bit over.

He's just like, you know what I mean? Sex and Star, it's so good. It's kind of funny. It's legal over there.

So you know what I mean? It's super weird. I love you very quickly. I know you got on the podcast on me.

I'm asking like, what's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong?

What's wrong? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

But someone that might be very salty are the people that worked on the Star Wars in the, yeah, Star Cruiser, this Galactic Star Cruiser. I do like this one. The whole house is going back, sorry, we're closed. It was announced after I had my show notes.

But basically after less than two years out there being opened, the Galactic Star Cruiser, this big Disney Star Wars experience builds first as a hotel but not actually more like a cruise, so it's an immersive experience that costs $5,000 for a family of four for two nights. Surprisingly, I wasn't making money and they decided to shut it down at the end of September. I think they're going to retool it. They're going to be working on something spot.

At least for myself, this is an extreme shocker and a big surprise that they just decided to close this down so quickly. I am not shocked, honestly. Okay. I'm maybe a little bit shocked on how fast it was but dude, it was very expensive.

It's very good. And with the videos I've seen, it looks expensive. And making it and you need a quick return on that and they probably weren't getting it. So it sucks but know your market also.

Yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch of fans that could just like splurge that money. But that's not the reality of most fans. It's already extremely expensive. So I just hope they make a new Star Wars ride in that spot because I think that Galaxy's actually one more ride so hopefully they'll do something.

We also move all the people. I spray it through the park. But what surprises me apart from how quickly it happened doesn't mean that surprised me. It's when you said know your market, this is this new world.

They should know their market by now. And when they announced those price, every single person that I know on Twitter went on that to say what the hell are you doing? No one's going to go to this. And most people that went, where's that first wave that people were invited to?

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