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S6 EP6: The Bad Batch S2 EP9 Review/The Mandalorian Empire Article

from Radio Rebellion: A Star Wars Podcast · host Alberto M Calderon

After saying goodbye to Echo, Omega and the Bad Batch take a job for Cid while emotions are still high with the loss of their brother. With the third season of The Mandalorian around the corner, we analyze some of the comments made by creators Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni on the latest edition of Empire Magazine. Phase 5 of the MCU continues with Ant-Man 3 and Oti gives us his spoiler-free review and we discuss the big three trailers shown during the Super Bowl. Follow Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars Link Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp=1

After saying goodbye to Echo, Omega and the Bad Batch take a job for Cid while emotions are still high with the loss of their brother. With the third season of The Mandalorian around the corner, we analyze some of the comments made by creators Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni on the latest edition of Empire Magazine. Phase 5 of the MCU continues with Ant-Man 3 and Oti gives us his spoiler-free review and we discuss the big three trailers shown during the Super Bowl. Follow Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars Link Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp=1

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The balance built on hope. And welcome to another episode of Rainbow Village Star Wars, I'm your host, I'm your host, and we talk about the new and new consoles. Hi friend, how are you doing today? How are you doing today on the Star Wars Saturday?

Hi, yeah, I'm doing great. I'm a little bit tired, I've been doing a little bit of cleaning, doing some handyman work I haven't done in a while, so. But today I did something, I'm getting my things together, and today I threw an ethernet cable from the router straight to the computer to avoid all the disconnect things I have. And I checked, I have very steady internet, but for some reason I keep getting the message on that, check my connection, and I don't know what else to do.

So I think it's something with Streamy Art, or I don't know. It might be, I don't know how it works from my side to your side over there. But less than a year ago, some of those Wi-Fi hot points from Google for my computer, and first day work, they didn't, they were working fine. But yeah, sometimes I get your connection is lower, but my Wi-Fi is right there, how can I be lower?

No, so I usually, for example, for work, I use a lot of internet and I never have issues, and for some reason when I log in here, boom. Yeah, it happens. Hopefully for a smoother ride today. Yes, the Empire, they don't want us out there, it's something the truth, communication breakdown.

But you saw Adman, the big movie out there that everyone has thoughts about them, we'll talk about them later at the end, people saying the most Star Wars movies, so all the MCU, I want to get your take on it. I haven't seen it yet, so we'll do it a quick, spoiler free review, but we'll get to that. I mean, but first thanks to everyone that's joining us today, as always, if it's your first time being here, thank you, and make sure that you subscribe to our channel, so we don't miss any of our episodes when they drop on Saturdays. Leave us a comment down below if any of the topics we'll be discussing today, and thumbs up, people said thumbs up, like whatever you guys want to do, Bell, and if you listen to his on the audio podcast when he comes out, also, people they have to you guys, and right inside of you are always welcome, and if it's not your first time, then it's even better.

Thanks for coming back week after week. Hello there, it's our friend Brennan, who's here, praise, sir, and as there were no check-out of his podcast, he's dropping some cool episodes, so you just had a new one a couple of days, so go check that out. Anyone else has any charges? No, no.

Just a little high out there. All right, I think it's time, that's all I mentioned before we start, we're gonna do things a little bit different instead of starting with Star Wars news. We're gonna start with the Bad Bad, so if you guys are ready, I'm not ready, let's start Wars and Star Wars on TV. Star Wars on TV.

All right, all right, Star Wars on TV two weeks or last week, I should say we got two episodes of the Bad Bad, very great episodes. I don't know if that's the way you should say, very good episodes, and kind of for people like myself having a little harsh on the show structure was supposed to go last week, was very kind of moving, that's what we call the story of the show forward, and then this week it came back to that adventure that we got also loved, and before we go, hello Dale, thanks for joining us Dale. We're back to those adventure of the weeks that we've been having for most of this season. I'm a little surprised that we went back to that, but it's still carried over with last week's episode.

Sometimes we talked about what we wanted to see, is how the Bad Bad Bad especially Omega was gonna deal with Echo leaving. That's a very big part of this episode that we just saw a couple days ago. Yeah, and also, I was not surprised that we came back to the adventure of the week. Yeah, it's very much what the show is.

So I actually say that the two-part arc is the exception to the rule of the show. Yeah. I was not surprised, but I was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed the episode. I told you I fell asleep for the first time.

Not a good sign, but... No, not a good sign, but you know, it's been having hard weeks at work. So I sat down and watched it, I stopped working at 11pm, and I was like, yeah, I probably watched it about time. But I finished it a couple hours ago, and I really liked it.

I really liked the episode for the interviews. Yeah, it was a very fun adventure of the week. I said a couple of weeks ago that this show, it's called the Bad Bad, where this Omega show, we need to be okay with that. If you're expecting for her to take a back seat, I just saw a Reddit report, not report an article earlier today about Omega coming in the lead, and people still complaining that she might be too childish, and she's like an annual girl, but that's okay.

But she's still hard on solo of this show. And I'll say even for as much flack as I give this show, they do a very good job in hitting those emotional bits. And this week wasn't an exception, seeing how much Omega failed the absence of Echo, like she says, week after week, they're a family. Even their sheep get installed, and that's our home.

And for her, you mentioned last week, she having to go again through the destruction of her home of the Pacifica city, seeing that again, she's having incurred a lot of loss. So of course, having Echo live pretty abruptly was going to affect her going forward. I'm glad that they didn't shy away from me. And that was a central point of this episode.

Yeah, so there were a couple lines that really stood out to me. One is when they're talking about moving on, like, oh, he's in another motion. We move on. The soldiers do.

And she's like, we're more than soldiers. And you mentioned they're talking about the ship. Oh, it's just a ship that's not. It's our home.

And it appears that facade that these guys have on that oversold your losses part of it. And we have to move on. So I really like that. Yeah, it's a good change from last season.

But last season, most of her stories were connected to either Hunter or to record. Then this season is tech and icon. Those three are taking the brunt of the season so far. I love that you mentioned this because while I was watching it earlier today, I was thinking about the same thing.

And it's interesting because it was mainly Hunter and it always felt like the rest of the group was like, oh, that's okay. The Hunter brought on. And record, you know, he's the lovable big guy. Yeah, so it makes sense why he loves her.

But I love that they're fleshing out her relationship with the rest of the group. Oh, they're my brothers. And here they are, you know, like, and even Echo, he's a character tech character that was basically a computer and they're fleshing him out a little bit. So I really enjoyed seeing that.

Yeah, Hunter hasn't had a lot to do this season, especially with Omega. He was kind of in absent. Yeah, he was on the front line in that episode with the pirate one. They were looking for whatever weird threshold.

Like you said, very interesting to see this progression with the other two. And then the absence of Echo hits a lot harder if it was just at the end of season. Why is it okay? They really didn't spend that much time together.

Yeah, definitely. And I like that they're doing that because at a certain point it's like, why do I care about these people? Yeah, which I said before is one of the reasons I'm having trouble, not trouble because I enjoy this show, but really connecting with it because I don't want to say too. It sounds harsh and I don't care about these characters, but I don't feel the same connection I do with a lot of all the star wars characters.

But they're starting to find a way to get people in myself and inventing them. And then you said tech, which is this computer. I always say he was my favorite at the end of the Clone Wars season seven because I started seeing him as a droid. And with that sense, okay, but now they're trying to fetch him a little bit.

And we can talk, let's just go into it right now. I love it. I said a lot better than I have because I don't don't find that camp. I guess that echo, I mean, tech is the snorro divergent character and processes emotions and situations different than other people.

And the way he wasn't engaging with echoes loss the same way that Omega was really hit hard with people that kind of see relationships and emotions in that kind of different veil. Do you kind of notice that this was going on or what were your thoughts on this? That doesn't know anything. No, you know what?

I'm kind of like that. I'm very, I tend to be very practical with emotions. But it doesn't mean I'm very emotional person. I'm like, I'll cry.

I'll get very angry. But I try to be like, if something bad happens, I try not to get carried away and look at it like objectively and be like, well, you know what should happen? So I do identify with echo in that sense because sometimes people will be like, dude, just get angry, get sad. Like show something I'm like, I am, but I'm not going to show it.

So yeah, I never really thought about it that way. Yeah, it kind of depends on each other's kind of the way with those situations. Me, essentially, I'm very emotional with who I'm with. And also if people around me are very emotional for some reason, I have to be the solid one.

I can't let myself also fall down. But let's get into the episode. So Sid, I will jump into Sid in a few minutes. Sense them on this mission to get some weird mineral ipsum.

I think it's called Shifu or some reason, but am I on some weird planet and bigger photos of Marolis over there. And yeah, let's park the ship 100 meters away behind this cliff. This cliff is, I know what's going to see. But it's your fault if it gets stolen.

I really love this episode. I don't care. It's like the faster episode I really enjoyed. I love this one also.

Poor Riker getting blamed for everything, even though he's carrying that whole load. It was fine. Yeah, I like the episode. I won't say I love it, but I like it for the reasons that we already mentioned.

We got a little bit deeper into tech. We got a little bit deeper into her relationship with the rest of the batch, especially echo and tech. So for those things, I really like the episode. Again, it was surprising because at first it was like, okay, just another adventure of the week, but then they get stuck on the cave and things start to come up.

And I'm like, oh, this is interesting. Yeah, one of the reasons I really enjoyed it is not silly, but I can mention every week since I just read the plagios. It starts with plagios and his master are tenorus. On the mind trying to mine this important mineral and the sacaving and I was falling and something happens.

I'm like, oh, this reminds me of the work I just read. Okay. It's like poetry. Yeah, it rhymes.

Oh, we should write that down and say poetry. It rhymes. You can write that down and use it. When the ship goes to all this, yeah, it was obvious.

They couldn't see it. I don't think there is more or less or something out there. You catch the Lion King nod. Of course.

The daughter says. It's the Lion King. It's like so. I love how obvious it was.

It's like a little, it's not. No, it's the same scene. Using the last one. One at the end.

After everyone goes and the last one comes from me. But then poor wreck again, you get a protect day. He just drops down and gets kicked 20 times. Let's talk about sit real quick.

They're kind of wrapping up the episode. They call her, hey, we need help. Our ship goes to all and say, yeah, whatever. I'm dealing with something else.

And then okay, I was helping a few days. I love them. Because she's like fine. I'll help you in a couple of days.

Just hold down the broken down. That doesn't have anybody. We already saw that again in that faster episode when the other, the dual team told them, oh, she's going to let you down. She's going to be trying something along those lines.

Are we starting to see that? Do you think that maybe by the end of the season, they're going to walk away from the seat just because she retraced them or doesn't come through for them? I want to be surprised. I'll tell you that when they call their entries, like, oh, I don't know.

It's happening. It's happening. But then it happened. I don't think this was it.

So we'll see. Yeah. You know what I'll say? Because why would you set this up now and pay it off in two seasons?

Yeah. Yeah. After that faster episode, I thought that she was not sacrificing herself, but she was going to come to that point that I helped her not to betray them. She's going to choose to help.

But I know after this week's episode, I think that they're going to part ways at some point. But they know the seats, I think they're going to part ways. Do you think that she had anything to do with the shift getting stolen? No, I don't think so.

Yeah. And I kind of thought about it, but then Hunter mentioned that there were people out there that might be on the lookout. So she does mention like, be careful of my others. Yeah.

I don't know. Yeah. All right. But yeah, I like you.

I think things are coming to a head for them. We're past that halfway point now. I think what's seven more episodes or 16. I think it was nine.

So seven more episodes. We'll see where it goes. And where's Crosshair? We haven't seen it in about five or six weeks.

We haven't seen them since the third episode. It's been a while. It's been a while. All right.

So what do you think we're going to see Echo again? They see some. We know he's with Rex. We're guessing that code is going to shackle up with Rex at some point and with Echo.

Are we going to see them again? Yeah. I'll bet he'll be at the finale because the finale is a two-parter. So I think we're going to get Cody Rex Echo.

Everyone. I'll mention, I think I'm getting pumped up with that finale. It's going to be a big reunion of other clones. It's going to be interesting.

And if we get more mountain-tentists and cloning and whatever is happening. Because that was a big reveal at the end of season one. And we haven't seen any payoff for it yet. No.

No. I think they'll probably start setting that up in the second half. But I've been kind of sad thinking, what if we get the last stand of the clones? Yeah.

That sucked. Yeah. Also, it's not the same like the story ends versus they'll die. I don't think they'll die.

We know Rex is around. I don't think any of the main bad batch apart from Crosshair, I don't think they're going to die. I think they'll survive. At least these things, I think they all make any doubt.

I'm not going to say that it's going to be a sad ending. I think I can agree. I think I can agree. All right.

We'll leave it there. All right. So that's what we'll wrap right now for Bad Batch. We'll come back to next week.

I don't know. I didn't check what the title was for next week's episode. Again, I complain about the show. But they've all been good episodes.

I'll say that. All right. We'll see. There's someone else.

Obviously subduced. That's what being here. Feedy noise. Of course, it's involved.

See, you know, something's happening. All right. Feedy noise. The pirate.

The one of us. The one of us likes. Yeah. All right.

So let's go now to Star Wars news. Star Wars news. Star Wars news. Star Wars news.

I know we're going to do it out of sync or out of order this week. No, I don't think we're pretty in sync today. All connections are working fine. All right.

This wasn't my show notes. It came out. I think yesterday, you reminded me right before we started. There was a report.

A couple of days ago, maybe yesterday from the Hollywood Reporter. Now that Bob Iger is by the kind of rethinking Disney plus, what's a movie? What happened? What's Star Wars related?

What should we know? I got to be very honest. I haven't read the article. I just listened to it.

Punditsite Trust and what they wrote. So that's why I'm not. And so basically, I think that just of it was that Marvel will be thinking their production strategy and what they're releasing because they're releasing a lot of content. So they're probably going to start reducing the amount of content they're putting out there.

And the first side, Star Wars is going to start ramping up. But what I did see was that it's going to be like, it's not like all of a sudden we're going to get the kind of give Star Wars $2 billion to make everything you want. Yeah. And so I think it's still going to be very conscious about budgets and how much each studio is spending.

So cool, I guess. We can see it already because yesterday we have the first poster for Captain Marvel 2, the Marvels, and the movie got pushed back like three months. So maybe it's starting to give a little bit more breathing room between Ant-Man and now Miss Marvel or the Marvels. It got moved to November, but I think it got moved to November a while ago because when I saw it was like, wait November and I was like, oh no way, they pushed it back.

They pushed every Marvel thing back a while ago. Yeah. I could be, but most Star Wars, so we have already, I mean, we have the bad batch. We have Mandalorian season three.

We know we get in vision season two in a couple of months. We're getting Yondje that eventually that same day on May 4th, Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew. So we still have like four more shows, so kind of this year. And then plus the Ecolyte.

It's not here because we talked about it a couple of weeks ago that the new movie is supposed to be officially announced during the celebration. That was actually mentioned in the article then. Okay. It's going to be announced.

And again, with everything Star Wars, we're going to be in South Coast even when Lucasfilm announces it, it's not necessarily 100% going to happen. But Hollywood Reporter is a good news source. If they're saying that I'm always going to get announced in celebration, I put some bad in that. Yeah, I mean, it has to.

We've been talking about it. I don't know for how since last year. They need to announce a movie soon. But what do you think this means, excuse me, about ramping up more Star Wars?

Do you think it's more TV shows? Maybe doing movies again that we haven't seen more for five years? I think it's movies. Because we know that they're having a bumpy right with streaming.

Maybe they do like a last who role. Let's make five more shows and see what happens. But I think they're going to start moving to more movies. All right.

We kind of agree with that. What's all the movies we want? I'll mention this when we talk about Batman. But those are more movies, though.

You don't have to do what? 250 million movie every single time. Yeah. I'm sure they love to make a billion dollars.

But if the movie costs 500 million to make budget and advertising, that huge a return. I don't know if it was maybe in the end of June 5 or something. I saw that the body was over 200 million. But that's because of the aging and.

Oh, that's a very expensive tech. I mean, that's why nobody wanted to make their fun because it was very expensive. Yeah. That's a lot of ring cost.

You need to take care of the average. But I agree. I mean, you need smaller movies. We don't need.

I mean, if you want to make like a 90 minute Star Wars movie, I'm in, but not everything has to be. It's a Skywalker. Not everything has to have this big fight at the end of the movie. Yeah.

Who's smaller things? I think that we have to change some mentality of a lot of people, not just the big producers. There are a lot of fans. Oh, Star Wars is a aspect of it.

It should be an event to go to a movie. So if you do us all Star Wars in a movie, a lot of people are going to be like, this isn't Star Wars. I will take a 90 minute Star Wars movie solo too. But I totally agree.

I don't want to go to a movie theater to watch Star Wars and it would just be like a political threat. I'd watch that, but you know, that's not what I want to start with. I want to see a spectacle. But it doesn't have to be avatar to it.

You can do smaller spectacles. I don't know. That's just me. And when we get to, we get to, and then I'll talk a little bit more about it.

But I just want to say whatever I say about Marvel, I think it applies to Star Wars. Yeah. I agree. And I'll say also, I'm thinking I'm going to see and tomorrow, like I mentioned, you said that $15 a ticket.

If I want to use a regular 2D not I match anything, I want to go, I have Regal here. It's not I match up IPX, which is a competition. It's almost $18. So I don't want to pay that much.

Like you said, for a thriller, there's going to be sitting there for two hours just waiting. You know how much my IMAX ticket to cost for $13. $14. Oh, so close man.

See, just a regular 2D movie here. But I'll say it's a resubciting leather couch or you can lean back. It's a pretty nice theater. So I can blame them for that.

But it's expensive. When you come to Puerto Rico, I'll take you to Monteira on your cinema. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

All right. We'll make a day right with that. All right. As we move to our next, I see two comments.

So some new comments. Sorry. I'm very tired. That's fine.

Don't fall asleep. This isn't okay. So I actually haven't touched on that. Oh, wait.

But the empire thinks they're dead. So maybe she's walking around the Senate building. So I'm just going to read the people listening on the podcast. They said this is pretty bad.

Omega has a high price on her head. And then we'll turn her in as well. It's a good point. And we'll see.

Again, this plays out a little bit with Mandalorian and maybe Yoda. Mo is here. That's what you're doing today, Mo. Hope you're having a nice day.

Okay. Yeah. We're going to do a Spanish only episode. No, we tried it a few weeks ago.

We're going to do one. All right. So let's jump now to little mandalorian. I'm a mando shirt.

Yeah. If we do a Spanish episode, you got to let me know ahead of time because when I'm going to English episode, I got to do a Lutheran thing. No, no, no. We'll plan it ahead of time.

We'll get some Spanish speaking guests probably. All right. So let's go to the mandalorian. This I'll say I have my notes on my phone.

So I'm going to be reading from it. I thought we're going to get more from this because Empire magazine has been for about two weeks touting this big 20 page article they have on Mando magazine came out on Thursday. And I haven't seen anything about it. So did you read everything?

Because I haven't seen. I thought everyone's going to be posting all these big quotes and everything. You know me at my time all about, you know, visual things and things that hit me in the face. And I opened the article pictures.

No, not so many pictures. Okay. All right. So I'm going to just read a few of the quotes that were released before the article came out.

I was so with John Favreau. So John Favreau on white Grogu and Mando reunited on the book of Boba Fe. And this has been a big talk. I'm on Sowastoweto.

So get ready. Stretch it. Stretch it. We couldn't just hear the heart reset.

It's going to be interesting to see how it unfolds for people who may not have seen the book of Boba Fe. But I think the book of Boba Fe offered time to pass. You saw what Mando was without baby Yoda. And we saw what Grogu was like without the mandalorian.

And neither of them was doing too good. So so then coming back together was a really good plot point that allows us to jump back in since of three, won't maintain the central relationship. All right. So I've been very vocal about saying that I didn't want Grogu back with Mando so early on.

I think they needed more time to pass before they reunited. Even if it was at the end of season three of the mandalorian, maybe even season four because for me that story had run its course. And that was about Dean Jaren figuring out his path moving forward. I don't mind too much that they reunited in book of Boba Fe.

I mind that it happened so quickly. So for me it's a surprise that John Favreau says, oh, did a lot of time to pass because we don't know how much time to pass. It's gonna be a week. Maybe a year.

We have no idea. And I don't think we saw really they was doing that bad for both of them because we didn't get enough adventures with them. So that's my big issue. But I don't do it.

It's people saying you saw for putting this on book of Boba Fe people don't know what's going on. We'll get into that but you're taking his comments and then we'll jump into the other side. Let's be honest. The reason why Baby Yoda can't leave is because money money money money.

Hey, money talks. Hey, I hate that guy. Look, I got like seven things. But I don't hate him.

I'll say every time that I see him, I'm like, oh, graphic got me. He's so cute. He's like spinning in the chair. He's like, come on.

So that was that out of the way. So I never minded them reuniting because it was gonna like. I don't think anyone saw that episode and thought Baby Yoda's never coming back. Was I surprised how fast they did it?

Yes, totally. Because both of it came out like a year. I saw a year. Yeah.

The last week or December came out. I think like maybe January or February or February. Yeah. So I was surprised on how fast we went to that in universe.

I don't know how much time passed. I think they tried to do the whole thing like, oh, he's back down to hunting. But I was like, is this his first job? Is this his job since the growth left?

I don't know. He's starting his head open with the soul. Yeah. Yeah.

So I get your point, but I never really like minded at all. Cause for me, it was like, you know what? I would have paid it more. Season three was a whole season of Mando on himself and then at the end.

Cause that would have been a filler season. What? I said it. I should kick you up.

I got power to come back. Yeah. Again, to me, we don't know how much time has passed and the emotional punch we all got with that when they got separated. I don't want to say devalues because we haven't seen them under the race for like two years.

That's season ended. So it's given us enough time. But to happen so quickly, at least for myself in the universe, really, just give it more time. No, I totally get that.

I totally got that. And I think it's very much an execution thing because I think they could have had their kick and needed it to like maybe they've gone Grogle in the third episode of Mando. And then we got those two episodes in in Bad Batch in book of Boba Fed and then a couple episodes in season three and then they get back to the other. You think they should have done like the first episode or season three being those two episodes from book about it.

You can only change a few couple of things. It doesn't affect the story of Boba Fed that much. I don't remember if I mentioned it when we were covering it, but I've always thought they should have done like a special like. Yeah.

Here's this special event of two episodes and here you go. I wouldn't have minded that at all. Yeah, we're not being good. So let's jump into.

But I say we got a few more comments for people. I'll be chatting right now and then we'll jump into another thing. So they grow based on paper and one. So I have not read.

Yeah, I'm either. Sorry, Dale. Wait, which little girl? I guess in a paper moon.

Okay. Okay. Go. It's been time to look and we still can follow his story.

I mean, man. Yeah, I get that. But I think it's a slippery slope because then we have to have Luke in everything. And I'm not necessarily opposed to having Luke, but you know, the Mandalorian budget is not as big as everyone thinks.

No, 200 minutes. We just talked about it. Are we getting Luke in season three? I'm going to say no.

I'm just coming back in a so-called country short. You know what? I'll go with what you just said. We won't get him in season three.

What kind of a Tien I think when everything comes together. I don't come on Luke Skywalker versus strong or so. No, not then strong. You know how many people will lose their minds.

Those people who spent so much time with the original Toronto trilogy. Oh my God. Yeah, I haven't read it, but and then from just throws in. Yeah, I was with their father just flying around the unknown regions.

I hadn't worked for me as a star. We went to about two ones. To what? All right.

So let's jump into real world and people complaining online about what are these services to all the fans that didn't watch the book about it. And they're going to see Grogu and season three and they're going to lose their mic. I don't know what the hell is going on. And this was a big thing on Twitter at least for about three days.

I stayed away from it. No, you didn't. I said I didn't. Yeah, it was making fun.

My thing. Why are you tossing it? Then I'll say mine if you want. I told you I've been having long weeks.

So it's very grumpy with it because I'm a firm believer that creators need to trust their audience and just, you know, tell the story you want to make it tell and have them figure it out. And seeing this is like you guys literally want everything spoonful. And in a way it's like this is a show where men were dingyering every five minutes looks at the camera and tells you what's happening. And we got that clip where he tells Grogu everything that happens in like three seconds.

So it's like why are people worried that I don't know the views number, but I would expect everyone to watch season two of Mando to watch Boba Fett and those same people to go watch season three. I don't know. I think it's a dumb argument. Yeah.

I'll say spread them. And I have two months where I agree when people saying, oh, this reunion shouldn't have happened in a different show. I understand. Okay.

But then going so far as making articles about it, that's pretty stupid. But say, no, what about the casual fan that didn't see bookable of it? If you're watching them under the law, for two seasons, you're not that casual of a fan and you're probably going to figure out what's going on anyways. And if you're really a casual casual fan that doesn't watch anything else, you're not going to be mad.

You're seeing the trailers, you're seeing TV spot. What's maybe you're doing? Let me Google it. Oh, my friend cannot tell me.

I'm pretty sure we're going to get a previously on the Mandalorian. We'll see. We got a previously on in Kenobi. How about the pre-goes?

Like movies that everyone watched. And yes, I'm assuming everyone watched it. If you're watching, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah.

Wait, wait, wait. There are prequels. The high ground? Also, if you're a solo-chacher, I think you won't care.

You won't care. Maybe you're always like, okay, whatever. Let me just enjoy this show. I don't think people are going to care.

So I understand what you might say this should happen in a different series. But it's an issue. It's going to be explained and we're not going to care about it. Yeah.

So, okay. Let's go over a couple of things. So going back to what we're talking about, he's saying that we could have Luke exploring. And I think that we could have had him with the Soka training.

And I'll go to his next comment because it's really, you have to resolve Soka's fears of Grigu training. So Dale, the way I see it, and I could be terribly wrong and the Soka show comes out and proves me wrong. I think that the Soka show will happen somewhere in between the Jedi episode in Season 2 of Mando and the episodes in Book of Boa Effect. Because I don't know if you guys, and apparently you could comment on this.

You thought the same way I did, but I saw Soka a little bit differently in the way she came about herself. Because in the Jedi episode, she's like, I don't know if this is like, and then in the next time we see her, she's like, oh, yes, a wise master, Skywater. He's going to train him well. Yes.

So I think something happened to her in between that. Change her point of view a little bit. This, man, it's so difficult because similar to what we talked about, we don't know how much time passed between Season 2 of Mando and Book of Boa Effect, we all know that the end of Rebels, that kind of pose scene of Rebels happens after Mando Season 2 and she goes fine. So we don't know exactly where everything falls.

So I could really, I could see what you're saying that the Soka show kind of falls in between these two, and maybe not all of it, but partially. Yeah, definitely. But yeah, I see, because Soka was very violent at the beginning. Just to find out where Thron is mowing down all these people, and last time we saw it, she was this semi-sane, I'm not a Jedi, whatever.

And she was very difficult. And that's a lot of people had trouble making this in the Soka we were used to. But yeah, she was a lot more relaxed, more Jedi-like, we should say by Book of Boa Effect. More quiet.

Yeah. And we never saw that introduction, that meeting between her and Luke for the first time, which I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. I think I've always said this.

That's for me, way too big of a story to tell. It's a leading imagination. And we're going to talk about, in a minute, when we jump into some of Iloni's comments about how he doesn't like stories to him or whatever. But yeah, I see your point that there might be some time in between all those three shows.

And again, like you said, we're going to have to wait for Soka to come out and see. They'll, he mentions that he's arguing on what point and yes you are. But you know, we're fans of this is what we do. And it's okay as long as we're being respectful.

And Brennan mentions that if you haven't watched the Book of Boa Effect, you should because it's a great show. And I agree. See me the best best. Dude, I would die if I see that best.

I see Mandalorian. I don't know. So VSPs or whatever. What are those machines?

Oh, they look like super rain. They're very colorful and have a lot of mirrors. This is an edgy show. Yeah.

I could use a big sweet. I need a little one that goes too fast. Oh man. All right.

You have a decorated as the LGBTQ flag and this is my macho. That's about. Oh my god. I would die.

I love it. I love the western. When direct, that's our name, direct, it's something like that rash, which he showed up on the trailer. People were going crazy.

It's just going to be the lead of the show. I would protect her at all cost and I hate her now. All right. So our second story from the Empire magazine.

Again, I'll be from my phone. It's about Filoni not being a fan of hard endings, which I have. So Filoni regarding the ending to the Mandalorian season 2 said, there's a big question at the end of season 2 of what will Mando do next? Is that relationship over?

In life, things don't always come to a perfect ending. I think things can continue on and your adventure continues every day. I used to think about it with Clone Wars all the time. When is the battle over?

When is that struggle over? Because it culminates in Revenge of the Sith, but that can be the ending for that show, even though that's the ending of that era. He continues on with the Mando season 2 ending. I think that in some ways you want each season to have a feeling of an ending, but in a lot of what I've done, I don't like hard endings.

Filoni adds, it's always sad for me when an adventure ends and the characters are seemingly done with their journey. So I think there's always that little bit of hope that something can continue. And I'll say I think this is the reason I have trouble with some of Filoni storylines. And he put it right there that he doesn't like when things end.

And I think that sometimes things should end from the natural conclusion. Or like you just said with Luke and Asokamirin, we don't need to see a lead that a lot of stars was our imagination, our head canals, what can happen afterwards. I think everything that Filoni's doing, and I'm probably the minority because Filoni people of everything has been doing, especially if you grow with Clone Wars. And that's what we keep seeing in Worldly Bad Bash is Throne Wars season 8.

Now we're gonna have Soka with his Rebels season 5. And all these stories not ending that I think they should, we don't need to see every second of everyone's life. And I think that's when starting to have trouble with Filoni storytelling. Okay.

I don't quite see it that way. Well, screw you, man. Because I think on Clone Wars and Rebels, which are two big stories so far, and those stories come to an end. But I think they're very true to what he's saying.

If you think about that last episode, that last scene, it's almost always like that hope that there's something more. In Clone Wars, we get that scene where Vader finds a Soka's life saver, as he turns on. And we know that leads straight into Rebels. But in the case of Rebels, Rebels ends, and it's the opening to a new adventure coming.

And when we'll get that, probably in Asok, but we're not sure yet. And for years we speculate it. And I think that's what he's talking about giving us an opening to, yes, this part of the story is over, but there's always room for more. And I think George was very much on that side of things.

I don't know. You know what, I'll say yes, because Return of the Dead, I spun off the entire EU. And not just Return of the Dead, I but each of the Star Wars movies spun off all those books and stories and future and everything. But that, I don't know if you talk to George, is there any side there's two universities, he's moving and everything else that doesn't?

Yeah, no, no, I agree. But it left with the hope that there was room for more stories, because the main characters didn't die, and there was room for more stories to happen. So I don't fall into any experience with Valonia. I know there's people who don't like his storytelling, and there's some people who see him as God, and I don't fall into any of them.

I really like him as a storyteller. But... Be careful, I'm a good friend. I like him as a storyteller, but I don't think he's a deity of some people's life.

Same. I mean, he's done a lot for Star Wars. We're not gonna downplay it. And he carried the franchise when it seemed that it wasn't going anywhere, but Clone Wars did a lot for it.

I know George was very involved in Clone Wars of Filoni. I love with it. Rebels, still my favorite of the animated series, Ahsoka and Rebels, my favorite Ahsoka. But it could have, her story could have come to an end, right?

When we see her battle with Vader. Oh! With Ahsoka, I agree. I kind of think Ahsoka needs to die.

I don't think her to die. I don't want to be like everyone that we don't see in the future needs to die, but we don't need to see her till she retires. I don't know how autotune does get. But her story could have ended with the tempo comes down.

We don't know. Is she alive or dead? We don't know. We don't know.

Make sure we're alive. I like that. And I agree with you. Again, it's not that I hate Ahsoka, but here I contradict myself.

I like Filoni's storytelling, but I think some stories, maybe not a definitive ending, but an ending. That's what I say. We don't need to see her die, but we don't need to see every single. And then End of Rebels, which I love Rebels, it could have ended with Sabine just looking at Lothal and everything that they've done.

And then Ahsoka comes back, okay, there's another story. It could have ended, but he wanted to keep going. And that's fine. Not my favorite.

That's a great opening story. I'll show them because Brandon is about to leave us. Oh, come on, Brandon. Right.

Now again, I love Rebels. It's my favorite. My favorite TV show so far in Star Wars. It's...

And I like and so... And I say all this and I love all the shows that we've seen. So I keep enjoying all the series. I just...

We need to buy some. Man, we're at an era of Star Wars where we have all these different storytellers. And I don't like it when people say this is the way. You tell Star Wars stories.

It's like, no, there's a long one. On intended, on intended. All right, so let's jump or last new story about the Mandalorian. It's with Petal Pascale who's everywhere right now.

And we love it. So Petal Pascale on season three, he says, what I love most about season three is how much the world opens up in terms of Mandalore and Mandalorians. That means so many different facets of culture, politics, and rules and discoveries. And now I'm excited.

This is when... Okay. I'm very proud of the way we grow. It's very cute.

I hope it was more than just used to do spinners. Okay, give me all this Mandalorian culture. We've seen all the trailers. We've seen a lot of Mandalorians doing a lot of things.

Since I were going back to Sundari, Bo Katan is there on her throne. This is very interesting. Especially with people that love Mandalorian culture. I've been getting more into it because of this show.

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