S6 EP7: Marina Abramovic on the relationship between performance and pain, never feeling loved in her childhood, and harmful conspiracies

For the final episode of this series, Louis travels to Manchester to sit down with Marina Abramovic, the self-proclaimed “grandmother of performance art”. Marina tells Louis the stories behind some of her most famous artworks, as well as the relationship between performance and pain, never feeling loved in her childhood, and being caught in the middle of an online conspiracy.       Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.     Links/Attachments:    Balkan Erotic Epic, Marina Abramovic (2025)  https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/may/22/manchester-to-host-world-premiere-of-marina-abramovics-balkan-erotic-epic     The Artist is Present, Marina Abramovic (2010)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2073029/    Lips of Thomas, Marina Abramovic (1975)  https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/5176    Rhythm 0, Marina Abramovic (1974)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBkbseXfOQ&list=PL0bCt-VbCH4N3823Lj7uNAFLiYDjSnbTp&index=1    Cut Piece, Yoko Ono (1964)  https://www.moma.org/audio/playlist/15/373     Cut Piece, Yoko Ono (2005):  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/16/arts.france     Bob Wilson’s Life and Death of Marina Abramovic, (2012)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2177497/     Book: When Marina Abramovic Dies, James Westcott (2014)  https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262526814/when-marina-abramovic-dies/     Light – Dark, Ulay & Marina Abramovic (1978)  https://www.stedelijk.nl/en/collection/13991-ulay-light-dark     Seedbed, Vito Acconci (1972)  https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/266876     Seven Easy Pieces, Marina Abramovic (2005)  http://pastexhibitions.guggenheim.org/abramovic/     The Great Wall Walk, Marina Abramovic (1988)  https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/apr/25/marina-abramovic-ulay-walk-the-great-wall-of-china     Book: Walk Through Walls: A Memoir, Marina Abramovic (2016)  https://www.waterstones.com/book/walk-through-walls/marina-abramovic/9780241974520     Balkan Baroque, Marina Abramovic (1997)  https://www.singulart.com/blog/en/2024/06/03/balkan-baroque-by-marina-abramovic/?srsltid=AfmBOopPyXzjOP800ERQMaHvbiNNps0oMBOCmOKjWOhdpNt6X6kEvu2k   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQigTZuTmv0    BBC Maestro, Marina Abramovic:  https://www.bbcmaestro.com/courses/marina-abramovic/the-art-of-being-present    Article: ‘Marina Abramovic Just Wants Conspiracy Theorists to Let Her Be’, New York Times, 2020  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/arts/design/marina-abramovic-satanist-conspiracy-theory.html     The Seven Deaths of Maria Callas (2022)  https://www.harrisonparrott.com/news/2022-11-04/marina-abramovic-brings-the-seven-deaths-of-maria-callas-to-royal     The Truth Vs Alex Jones (2024)  https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-truth-vs-alex-jones/umc.cmc.1azsv881ew8mcjozutufy51vf     Credits:  Producer: Millie Chu   Assistant Producer: Maan al-Yasiri   Production Manager: Francesca Bassett   Music: Miguel D’Oliveira   Audio Mixer: Tom Guest  Video Mixer: Scott Edwards   Shownotes compiled by Elly Young  Executive Producer: Arron Fellows       A Mindhouse Production for Spotify   www.mindhouse.co.uk   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices