The rebellion is built on hugs. I bet you're mute. You're muted. Thank you.
Here we are. And I know that episode of Red River, that's why we have a co-host. So you mind me by myself here and I was just talking. I didn't know what he was supposed to be.
So I kind of feel like a favorite. So I was like, wait, how was I going to go? Let's just say it. Alright, let's try this again.
Welcome to another episode of Red River Lonese, our podcast, I am your host, Alberto Calderon, who forgot to hit that on mute button. Alty, thanks for letting me know. Thanks for joining us today. How are you doing today?
I see your fallen star t-shirt. I see the sun. It's sad, but I just love this poster so much. How they leaned into the Poseidon.
I really love it. I know also my high repotic shirts. It's a little dark. I have the Nile one.
I usually use what I was like. I've used that one too much. I need to get another high repotic shirt also. Every time I talk, I repot it.
I have this red one. I don't want to. I'm just making my car. I'm just going to keep buying them.
It's difficult. It's a cool guy. Alright, that's what we started. I watched cocaine.
I'm feeling hyped. Excited. It's funny because I know you posted late yesterday. You watched it.
You really enjoyed it. I went to a family. We went to a horse retirement place. They have here in the cat one of my favorite places to go here.
There's a little trail. You go off trail. It just woods and stuff. My wife goes to film cocaine.
It looks like that. Funny story, but not really. They started great. I went to see some horses which I love.
I almost sat down into the toilet. I almost fell down. I didn't notice that both leads were up. I went all the way to the cold ceramic inches from the water.
I'm like, this is not the way to start the day. I know I wanted to hear that story. I just had to get it off my chest. Thanks everyone for being here.
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Thanks again to everyone. Thank you, everyone. That's freaking awesome. Yeah, it is.
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We got a salad that way so we don't look too desperate. Okay, Otty, we have a couple of things to go to. We have people in the chat. We have awesome people in the chat.
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Thanks everyone for being here. We're going to have fun on this show today. A lot of stuff to talk about. And if you guys already are not ready, let's talk Star Wars and Star Wars news.
Star Wars news. Star Wars news. And there's been a lot of talk about Star Wars celebrations. Some good, some bad.
We're going to focus today on Star Wars celebration. It's going to skip 2024 and come back in 2025. This is no speculation. It was posted on the Star Wars website.
And for the most part, the fans have been okay with it. Not a lot of complaining, which is what I would assume. How are you feeling about this news? I don't mind.
If I'm not mistaken, I think it's a vision of every other year. So I was thinking about it. I think a couple of years ago before COVID, I think they say it was a big Star Wars celebration one year and then D23 the other one. And they were going to be jumping each year.
And I think because of COVID, they went with both back to back years. But now they're probably falling back on that plan. So no surprise. Okay.
Yeah. I think they don't have anything to announce. Then why do one? I think it's totally fine.
Yeah. That's the other thing. If let's say they announce the new movies in this Star Wars celebration, it comes out in 2025 as we all imagine it will. There won't be a lot of news on 2024.
Maybe the shows that I call Acolet or Boba Fets is on tour or something. But we don't need a celebration just for that. We're in 2025. Give us the trailer and everything for the new movie.
It makes sense. And if we know for two years in advance, maybe we can plan something. Yeah. And now that I think of it, 2024 is probably going to be my wedding year.
Oh, see. That's taking it off. Let's push it. Yeah.
All right. So 20, 25 Orlando. How are we feeling about that? So if they do 2025 Orlando, then I have two years to plan and I'll be there regardless.
Two years. I can plan ahead. Yeah. I saw a crowd of the forest posting something that we said a while ago, but it's not a reason.
I'm gone. I say, well, give me a reason to go visit the extended family over there. So wow. I was giving a reason to come back.
Yeah. Oh, finally after five years or six years, we're back in back home. Why? Well, they're Star Wars.
I'm not going to mention them. I'm going to be there. Yeah. But let's say 2025 Orlando and we go.
I don't know if I want to be trying to get on the podcasting stage. I might just want to roam around. It's the first time they are. I don't want to be extra pressure.
I think I would. I think I would go for it. All right. We'll start thinking of a.
Hey, I can do it on my own. You walk around. Oh, screw it. One in a row.
All right. We'll figure it out. If they say in a month and a half whenever a celebration is 2025, we're going to Orlando. They will also plan.
I think that's what they always do. Right? Like the Olympics. I don't remember.
Oh, man. I just found fear that my scene in fun is too low. It's in the low speed. It's not really giving me any air.
So it's going to be sweating in here today. Yeah, it's a hot day. All right. Star Wars celebration 2025.
We're okay with it. It makes sense. It's totally fine. Yeah.
Right from there. Let's jump to some Mandalorian news. There's a lot of Mando talk out there this week. Again, it depends how you take it.
Some people took it wrong. Took it too far. All the cycle playing the other way. There's a lot of stuff out there right now.
Why am I not so worst? Here we go. I'm going to first. And this is not confirmed.
I don't know who posted this. Apparently the premiere for season three is only going to be 35 minutes long. Let's talk about that. Let's talk.
You want to start? I want to start. All right. So I just want to say I don't care.
So like I'm done wishing for Mandalorian to do one hour episodes every week. Like I was during the first season. The longest episode I think is the Marshall up to now the season premiere for the last season. Yeah.
And that's honestly one of my least favorite episodes. Come on. I'm a firm believer that Lang doesn't equivolate quality. So if they think the story is 36 minutes to stories, 36 minutes.
So me. I will. The thing is it's not 36 minutes because it's five minutes of credits. This is the first episode.
I'm about three minutes of catching us up. What's actually? It's actually like a lot of people who are watching this. It's like 28 to 30.
And I think for a premiere, I think that's pretty low on the low end. I agree. And I have to get out of my headspace. Like you're saying, if you look on average, maybe 40 minutes at most for the month or two seasons.
So at this point to expect them to be one hour, maybe a little bit far fresh, something that me and Saffan have to get over it. But again, after coming from and which most episodes were over 40 minutes, we did have some 30 minutes or something. I think one was maybe 29. That's it.
I think it's a little bit more than that. I think it's a little bit more than that. We did have some 30 minutes or something. I think one was maybe 29.
That second episode was pretty short. But all the other series that we've been watching recently have been that one hour. Not that it needs to be, but I don't know. I'm a little bummed that it's only 30 some minutes.
But like you said, if the story has 40 some minutes then we'll take it. We'll complain afterwards. If it feels rushed then we'll complain. Yeah.
Well, I just want to mention that it's just par for the course for what Mando is. It's been 30 episodes. Yeah. And I know we should be used to that already.
What am I going on? All right. I want to call today. We'll spend a little bit more time on this one.
And this is, I think it's total film. John Faro has been doing the rounds doing interviews, Europe's playing all these places over there. And he was asked, the Mandalorian season four has also been confirmed. And I know you've said that you've written it.
Are we getting close to an end point now? Do you have an ending in mind? And then Faro's response has gotten a lot of talk in the Star Wars circles. And he goes on to say, no, I don't think.
I think, sorry, let me start there. He says, no, I don't. I think the beauty of this is that it's a middle chapter of a much longer story. And we'll have resolution over time with these characters.
I think that how these characters fit into the larger scope and scale, what it's not like there's a finale that we're building to that I have in mind. Quite the contrary, I love all these stories to go on and on. And so these characters potentially could be with us for a while. And I really love telling stories in their voice.
And I love the way the adventures unfold. And I'm looking forward to doing much more. But last week we talked a little bit about how they feel only say he doesn't like hard endings, like stories to continue. I had my issues with the way that was phrased a little bit.
And kind of similar here, and I see two ways. But before, I'll give you my point first. If you don't mind, I want to hear yours. And again, everyone that's in the chat, let us know what you thought about these comments.
I saw it two ways. One, I got a little bit of issue with it. The other way, I'm fine. Saying that he does have an idea or a plan of how the Mandalorian shows he went to end, I think at this point you should know.
If your voice is something to write, you should know what the end game is for that series. Not for all the characters, right? I think you should know where the Mandalorian show is going to end. So for that part, I'm a little bit, come on, really?
Especially with all the years of there was no plan for the sequel trilogy, that was a mistake, blah, blah, blah. But then the other point where he talks about that, these characters can kind of leave one another story, I'm 100% on board with that. If the Mandalorian ends, let's say you're on season five, and then two or three years from now on Skeleton Crew season two, they're stranded on a weird planet, and it turns out to be Mandalorian and the Injaren shows up, we're gonna lose our mic, because we haven't seen it in two years, and it kind of propels us stories. So in that point, yeah, yeah, give me those characters.
I don't need them to die at the end of Mando. But again, like I said last week, I don't, I hope the Mandalorian doesn't go for season seven, season eight is 20, 30, and we're still on Mandalorian season nine, like, come on, you gotta end this now. So I said, end the show, Okay, I'm of two minds here, because, and so I retweeted something, I tweeted it out a couple of years ago that Firero basically had no plan for Mandalorian, and I was like, oh, are we gonna complain about this, this time, and, all right, so, the way I see it is like, some TV shows don't really have a plan, they just keep going, and they work. Usually, this usually happens more with comedies, for example, that you can keep on going, and sometimes being married to a plan isn't necessarily good.
For example, I think, how I make your mother is a show that suffered from this, because they definitely had a plan on how they wanted to end it. And I think those characters and the show evolved past that, so when you tried to bring us back to that, it was like, yeah, maybe you should have improvised a little bit, so I'm fine with them having or not having a plan as long as the story is consistent, which has been, at least for me so far. I do think he mentions something about having little climaxes along the way. I don't know if you mentioned that when you read it, but I can remember reading that.
Yeah, I think it's in a different question. He says something, he wants each episode or something to keep people talking, something that happens to keep people talking. So I don't really, again, I don't know, maybe if you ask him, he's like, yeah, definitely. I don't see him saying Mandalorian's gonna have 25 seasons.
What I do think is like, maybe this story is gonna have an end, but the character story is still, like the original trilogy, that story ended, but the possibilities for Luke Bay and Han were endless, were at the same point with Rey, yeah, that part of the story ended, but we know her journey is still ongoing and eventually we'll get that story. So that's kind of the way. I didn't really take that much issue with it. I was a little bit frustrated with hearing like, yeah, we don't really have a plan in mind.
And again, it's not about having everything outlined from day one or now, but really, guys don't know where we're gonna go with this. Yeah, I read it, I don't like three or four times. The first time I was like, why? Of all the things to say, you know, you're from Puerto Rico, you know all these things.
The same, what's the same Puerto Rico? Cailladito te ves mejor. Cailladito te mejor. Cailladito tej mejor.
Yeah, the less you say, the better you look. And sometimes it's like, just promote the show. We don't need to hear all this, because in this timeframe, so much I talked about all the audiences intelligent. They go to YouTube if they need to figure something out, they talk to each other.
So we say, yeah, we don't have a plan on how this is going to end. Even if it's just word that run, it sounds people like us are gonna be spending hours talking about it. But then when he mentions that you said, these characters can live on in other stories, yes, great, that's what I want. And I'm 100% on board with that.
And before we jump to the chat to see what they're saying, I wanted to end it with this, because I've been complaining a little bit about Philone and Farro this couple of weeks. And I don't wanna sound like, I'm just a hater now. But you and a lot of people use this restaurant, buffet kind of analogy with Star Wars that- That's the first center. Yes, for center, put that out, it's a buffet.
You can pick and choose what you like. So I have my own restaurant analogy for my issues with Farro and Philone. I'm go to this restaurant and I complain that the waiter, it's in polite, he doesn't feel right. I complain about the kitchen because the food is too slow to get to us, their services too slow.
But their food is so good, they'll keep coming back and back. So I complain about Philone and Farro so much, because of what they say, but the product that they're giving me so far with Mandalorian Book of all of it, most likely with Ahsoka and Skeleton crew, has been so good that I don't care. I'll complain, but the product that steak always comes out right. Even if it takes 40 minutes, I'll come back for it.
You got me thinking, I always joke that. I don't really like fast food restaurants like at all, but I like Wendy's. I like Wendy's cheeseburger. And you know, that's not my favorite cheeseburger.
That's not like the way better cheeseburger than I ever had. But you know, when I want a cheeseburger, I always think of the Wendy's cheeseburger and I always complain that it hurts my belly, it's not the best burger ever, but hey, every time I'm craving a cheeseburger, I think of Wendy's. Yeah, it is, I complain about it. But every time I'm doing the line.
Yeah, I'll be there every Wednesday. I'll be there. Alright, so what is the chat saying before we move on? Okay, so we got Michael here from...
Oh, to Michael, thanks for being here. They also wanted the chat. So Michael says, why do people care? If the content is good, right at the season, I agree, if it's good.
If it's good, I don't care how this is going to be. You don't care how Wendy's cheeseburger is made, that's the most. And they also say, yeah, what's the story that's like, are you learning yourself? And don't worry about how it always looks like this.
Don't ask how the sausage is made. And I think I'm pretty sure that they have an idea. I complain if he's lonely, if he's like 20 years ahead, I'm sure he has an idea how all this is going to end. It's just weird that he said, yeah, I don't know.
I'm thinking of if Kathleen Kennedy did a joint interview or something, and she got asked the question first, you probably would have been like, yeah, they and John have crafted the story that they know exactly where he's heading, and then I was like, I have no idea where we go with this. Because it's the same thing for the movies. They said, we have a plan now, we know it's a five year dedication, we have to map everything out. Hey John, how's it going?
That will figure out who cares. Yeah, again, and I don't think a plan is necessary as long as you stay consistent with your storytelling and true to the characters. All right, we won't have a lot to wait to find out as the Mandalorian returns in four days. Okay, can we leave it here already?
Can you just roll it up really quickly? I can't believe I'm going to have to wake up early on Wednesday. Sorry, I got a lot of sleep this weekend. All right, so let's jump to the other segment.
And there's some other celebration news I'm not going to jump into. We'll see if we get live streams. Why does everyone think there's not going to, because you're not the only one who is now. We're going to say here, why do you think there's not going to be any live stream?
So what's that sentence? I don't know. So read pop, which I'll say, I don't know what the hell read pop does, they give tickets or live streams. I don't know, read pop went to say Twitter somewhere.
I guess I want to ask them a question. Oh, checking, there's no YouTube live stream for Star Wars celebration at this point. And people freaked out, oh, that's confirmation that they won't do any live streams. And that was last night around 10 o'clock or something.
So I saw it this morning. So I remember it's too far away for me to start speculating about that. I remember last year people were speculating that there wasn't going to be a live stream because they didn't drop the link for the live stream at halftime. And we know that the opening panel wasn't streamed.
But I remember that the link for the stream dropped like the last minute, God, and then we all joined. So I'm expecting it to be this. Again, I've seen every Star Wars celebration for the past years on the stream. So if they don't stream, I'm going to be very pissed.
Like a lot of us. I'll say I saw someone from up there in London, England saying that also the time difference is might be an issue because if this, I know, excuse me, if this happens when it's, I don't know, five or six in the afternoon in England will be like four in the morning here. I don't know where. It's like a five hour difference.
Yeah. So I think it depends on what time that happens over there. I always thought it was going to be earlier, like maybe 10 or 11 o'clock England time there'll be like nine or 10 here. Or if it's two in the afternoon, it'll be 10 in the morning here, which makes sense.
I know some people will be at work, but I think that's what it was when I think the 2016. Yeah. Yeah. Because we got in 2016, we got some panels.
And I think it was between 10, 11, 12 in the morning. 2016 was the Rogue One, right? Yeah, that was the one I skipped. So I have no idea.
And I want to say that at 10, 11 in the morning, I was watching panels. OK. That's right. That's right.
That's the string last time. Yes. And I think it'll be the same that we'll get those strings, that we won't get the trailers on all the big reveals that they. Which I'm fine.
I mean, it's not fine with it. Yeah. And that's what they usually do. And again, this is in April, where I'm on a couple of weeks away.
Like you said, last time it dropped that same day, the link. That's why I'm not putting too much stock into this at this moment. All right. Oh, so Michael got a little bit grumpy.
Someone who has been in the reservation, sorry if you don't don't know. You miss out. I mean, yeah, I get that. Like, I'm all four people there getting exclusive.
But come on. Like, I mean, I wish I could go. But I've told you a billion times why I can't go. So it's hard.
So I don't want to get with something. Yeah. 2025 Orlando, if it's in Orlando, let me say it. Give you two years to start asking for those days.
So I'll be on everything. I'll tell you what, if they announced it at the end of London, and it's in Orlando, I'll go straight to my company's HR portal and separate those for personal days. And that's also between March and May. It's a very busy time at my work with inspections.
And that's our quarterly for the spring ones. So I got to ask for them also pretty early on. All right. So let's move to another segment.
So let's go. Give me. And then when I did a little bit before I stopped talking, let's talk about that batch, episode 10 retrieval. Hopefully you didn't fall asleep on this one.
So the second part, the group has been separated from the Marauder on this planet, looking for Ipsy on that seat, send them. And here they're trying to find a ship. How did you enjoy this episode? Was this filler?
It was a thousand percent filler. Did you enjoy the wage staff that 10 year olds got to live through in that batch? I liked the episode. I thought it felt way longer than it was, at least for me.
And I was like, is this a special 40 minute episode? Oh, no, it's only even 17 minutes. But I have fun with it. Again, I don't have much to say about it.
It was fun. And again, I like spending time with Omega. And it was a pretty Omega centre episode. Yeah.
And it was a good episode. Nothing out of the ordinary. If you enjoyed the previous one, you probably enjoyed this one. I didn't hate it.
I'm not going to say that nothing happened because a lot of stuff happened inside the show. I gave Hunt a little bit more to do. He had been in the background, past couple of episodes. So at least he was a little bit front and center with the action.
Like the characters, didn't like that bad. Bad boss was called. Oh my god. Because every time.
That was a very Saturday morning cartoon. Yeah. Just stuffing his face with food. No, we don't have any food for anyone.
But again, it's an episode you cannot see in the Clone Wars with Anakin and Ahsoka going to a planet and seeing that the people are being taken advantage of. We've seen this type of episode before. Maybe not in the kind of waste there for food or whatever. But we've seen this type of episode before.
Good for the best. We got their sheep back. Thanks to Gunky for being a big part of this. He was.
Yeah. Again, it was a perfectly fine Star Wars animation episode. Yeah. Oh, I was surprised.
We haven't gotten half of the season trailer for the second part. I was going to mention saying it's filler. It's just flat out wrong because it does move the plot forward. Yeah.
I don't know if anyone saying it's filler. But I just wanted to mention this because they get their ship back. We didn't get sit. I had this funny thought of sit arriving at the pan being like, what the hell are these guys?
I moved everything to come here and get them. And they're not here. Yeah, just with the whole battalion, like three battleships and everything. And they're just gone.
Like at the end of peacemaker when all the superheroes show up and he's already done. Man, just always saying that I was going to say something. I just forgot. It was a good comment.
Oh, sorry. I guess not. Let me think. I don't have it.
All right. So let's move on. I guess our main topic of today, which is the bad bad. It's not a main topic.
That's what we just talked about. It's the high republic phase two so far because we're not done with the high republic. We're getting close to the end of phase two, Otty. It's been almost a year.
You have the battle of jealousy convergence. I see battle deceit. And then almost next month, at the beginning of April, we're getting characterism by Lydia Kang. And then path of destruction.
He says path of vengeance by Kevin Scott, the great Kevin Scott, coming back to right of Finale. All right, Otty, we haven't talked about high republic phase two since it started. You're still at the end of battle of Jeddah. It came out as an audio drama last month.
And they just released a script a couple weeks ago, maybe last week. All right. So as we jump into it, and we'll go back to book. But first, I just write in phase two.
We were so pumped with phase one. It was hitting and all sitting there. And at the end of that last book, Midnight Horizon, Yoda comes out and says to understand what's happening, we got to go back to the past. I was so high for that.
And yes, this makes sense. That was a perfect setup. Perfect setup. We go back 100 years, 150 years into the past.
And we get phase two, starting with Path of DC. But just in general, so far, your thoughts on phase two of the high republic. I think it has been good. I don't think it has been as good as phase one.
I've had a hard time connecting with the characters, which means I've had a hard time reading the books. Virgin took me forever. I thought the scene took me forever. And now I'm going through battle.
I did not read Quest of Planet X, I think was the first. No, Quest of the Hidden City was young. I have not read that one. So I think it's kind of what when phase one started, we knew we were in the middle of an initiative that was three phases long.
We didn't know how it was going to play out. But we knew we were meeting characters that we were going to be with for a while. And that they were going to keep on popping up in different books. And here, it's kind of different because we know phase two ends this year and phase three kicks off.
So we know that as much as I like Gilla, there's not much story I'm going to get with her for now. As much as I like Krat and Son, there's not much story I'm going to get with them. So I'm finding myself, it's hard for me to connect with the characters. And it's not at this against the writing of these books because I think they've been very consistent in the quality.
But I think it wasn't maybe the best choice to say, like, hey, we're going to go back in time. But just for a little while. Just for less than a year, we're going to spend. And then we'll come back to the main story.
I think we should have maybe spent a little more time here with this era and this moment. Because I do think it's interesting. But again, and there's also been a change where these books are way more character focused than the phase one book. So again, we're focusing on characters that I'm having a hard time connecting with.
So I don't know. Yeah. And I echo a lot of what you said. Also, yes, these are very character driven stories.
There's no big overarching battle or big action that we're kind of shooting towards for. Each book is very character driven that you need to connect with those characters. And I've connected with those characters in the books that we're at. But unfortunately, for myself, this phase, each book is great individually.
But as a cohesive unit mentioned with the phase one, I'm finding it's lacking. Because there's not a lot of connections between books. Now that you're in battle of Jada, then it connects a little bit with convergence. Because it's a follow up after what happens in convergence.
But almost nothing that happened on Path of the Seed has been brought up. Two Jedi die on Path of the Seed. A different Jedi found one of them dead, found the robe, and a dust. And nothing happened with it.
We've never heard the name Kefmo or Sink again. We haven't heard Sala Macri again. And what's the name of the Jedi that I found them? Is it?
Aslyn rail? Sorry? Oh, I thought it was great in the sun. No.
I double checked this morning. Jada Knight has seen rail, which is at the beginning of the book. And then at the end finds the robe. We've never heard anything about it.
Why? So that's why I like Path of the Seed was a great book. I love that most Sink. I love that he floats with everyone.
Once he meets, Marda wrote his stories, oh crap, what's going on? And say, for Marda? Yeah. Oh, I'm supposed to hate that Jedi.
But I feel this attraction until he uses a voice. But nothing. So that, the unison that we had in phase one, and not seen here. So like you said, not against the autos, because his book has been great for my sages individually.
And again, we still have two books to go. So we'll see how they end up. And these two we know are going to be pretty consistent when it's coming forward. Yeah.
No, I think I totally agree with you. And I'm OK, like being patient. But it's getting a little hard to connect with it. I will say that when at the end of convergence and getting a little bit into spoilers, when they're like, we should sign the treaty in Jedi.
I was like, oh, that's brilliant. Yeah, it's brilliant because I know the other book was going to be in Jedi. I was like, oh, you're sneaky. And it's cool because you know it's called the Battle of Jedi.
And then you jump to Rogue One. And there's the Jedi. It's not just on the floor of what happened. The battle.
So you know it's leading up to that. And maybe we talk a little bit about the Battle of Jedi. I'll spoil a little bit for you. So before we jump into the books, and this is something I should have left for the end.
But I'll just say, in case I forget, I think the biggest problem I'm having so far with this phase is that this story that they're telling, I don't think necessitated a whole phase of books to tell. If going leaning that way, if the idea of going back to the past was just to show how the rogue family doesn't trust the Jedi and how they got their hands on the leveler, you got to do that in one book, or in a comic series, which I thought the Mark Yum Row comic series, there was only two episodes, two issues. I thought that was going to be the reason why we didn't really find anything about his past and that he said throughout Jedi. Doing a whole phase just to show, yeah, and the path of the overhand says the Jedi, and I'm sure they're going to kill so many more of those families that she's going to be pissed, and then it goes into whatever.
You don't need it, especially because a year and a half away from all these, all the characters and so that we're also connected to. I don't think it's the best choice, but again, it hasn't ended. We're like three quarters of the way in. So we'll see how it ends.
And also, at first, I thought that maybe convergence was going to, I thought that the path of the scene and path of vengeance were going to be like the whole Mark and Rowan, how his family came to hate the Jedi. And then I thought, OK, maybe convergence and cataclysm is the other one. We'll be like the political background on how we got to where we are. And convergence really wasn't that.
Maybe cataclysm will, but so I'm finding myself agreeing with you. Like, I don't think a whole phase was a necessity. But if they thought it was, OK, cool. Maybe it was to give the authors enough, enough time, the original authors enough time to keep writing phase three, and then just proceed, take a long time to write those books, and then just do something else.
But let's talk about path of the scene a little bit. And we'll just go back and forth a little bit between each book. I really enjoyed path of the scene. Like I said, my biggest concern when phase two was announced, and we went back 100 years, is it going to feel like the High Republic, or is it going to feel totally different?
And to me, it felt like, perfect. This book could have been made in phase two. And just I did, it's happened like 50 years ago. It felt perfect.
Justina Arland and Thessa Granton teamed up for this book. It also was all two authors. I haven't read a book with two authors. And they worked each one did a chapter, and then came back to the next one.
I think they were great together. This story flew perfectly. I know convergence is a book that takes a lot of time to get through. But obviously, I went through it really quickly.
It was a great read, great characters, and a story that I really enjoyed. And it was different for all the stories we were getting to kind of the last 30 pages before the level. It shows up. It was a very different story, more of a romantic story between Kefo and Marda, and then the level shows up.
And it shows up. It's, that's like my kind of book. And I had a hard time getting into it because of that beginning, how different it was, and how it was Romeo and Julia, basically. I was like, where are we going with this?
Like, yeah, the mother's shady, but these four hippies. Where are we going with this? And all of a sudden, and that's why I say it's like my kind of book. It just pulls the rug right under you.
Like, things happen in Dalna. Things start happening to Yana Roan Hermitian and Elkolites into this big mess of an ending that I just loved. Path of the City has been my favorite story so far, I feel, and it's been one of my favorite high-republic books. Right.
I think I lean to convergence a little bit more for this face, for different reasons. But Path of the City was a great start. Let's talk about the new big bet. And I think it's another, for myself, another drop of going from the Nile on Mark and Ro to the Path of the Open Hand and the Mother.
I hate the Path of the Open Hand. And now like we were talking before about Cookingberry, and so bad that is good or whatever, you love to hate it. I just hate them because I hate cults. I've never been a part of our cult, but when you read those stories, how can people fall for this, right?
And it looks so stupid. But the people inside understand what happens. There's everyone on the outside, and I won't spoil too much, wearing a Path of Jeda. No, it's violent.
Okay, well, we get too bad of Jeda if we'll get there. It's like, come on, I read two pages. This is a cult. Why are people falling for this?
Any of the cults are called? I know. Those are the fours to save a mother and they're babies. What did you do?
Because the fourth is to be free. I gave freely give it a shout out. My sister's favorite moment that made me go like, why? Was when Marta finds Kevmo dead.
And she knows it was a mother. She's like, it was the Jedi. They corrupted him. And then in Path of Jeda there's a moment like, he died because he used the force to watch.
Why? You know how? They used the force to save... No, the mother.
I can't remember the species. They had like three babies and they could change. Oh, they were drowning? Yeah.
Oh, you used the force. But why would you do that? Something else is going to happen and we don't know. Oh, you died.
See the force brought balance back. They corrupted him. And that's why Yana Rowe is my favorite character of that book because she knows everything and she just... That's why Marda is so dangerous and that's why I love her because that's what the Herald says.
This is all, yes, but she believes it. And it reflects our real world, how some people believe some things are happening and the people in the know, the grifters are like, let them have their fun because it pushes our agenda forward. That's not happening right now, can it? I don't know.
What's the Star Wars? That was his whole fate. But again, that's why I like, dude, just because I see it in real life and like, how can people fall for this? And he's like, dude, just...
It's so stupid. Don't believe all that. But again, that's why I like Yana because he's like, telling Marda, dude, the Marda is not what she seems. We're not...
What's the word that she uses when they get the artifacts? Like, liberating them. No, we're stealing them. We're flat out stealing and killing them.
I'm gonna go steal something now. And Marda returns as he's like, the mother killed my girlfriend. She killed my team. She tried to kill me.
Let's get out of here. And Marda's like, hell... I wanna be a children. I wanna be so bad for Yana to kill them.
I knew it wasn't gonna happen. But then the Herald... I thought the Herald... His daughter got killed.
He's like, oh, we got to bite our time. So we'll see. That's still going on. So we'll see.
Hopefully it comes back. The Herald is like a real world politician. Yes. And you'll see in Battle of Jeddah, he does something.
I like, come on, you're just as bad as them. Then we jump to convergence. And this is Saraida Cordova. Give it up for the Hispanics out there.
That's a great book. But this is very different from Battle DC. Still very character focused. Because Battle DC was Kevmo, Marda, Yana.
Still figuring out where the future was gonna be. And here we have... Or the name... Siri, Albany, and Fan-Tusen.
Fan-Tusen. Similar journeys, but breaking away from what they've been told or should believe. And same with Galanatai as a Jedi, then deciding to be away-seeker. Kind of finding their own ways away from what they've drawn into.
So again, very character, finding their own path. I love all that. Chapters are a little bit longer to what we use to. So that's why it takes a little bit longer to read.
Very different story. I did enjoy it. I enjoyed it more. Because we were focusing on these characters.
I enjoyed my love, Gala. I want to get more with her. I love my Jedi way seekers. And I love that we finally got to see the area of no area forever war that we've been hearing for years.
So it was great to finally see what that was all about. General thoughts on conversion sorting. I like convergence. It's probably one of my least favorite high-republic books, but I still like that.
I like what the book had to say, especially to what you were going with, that we don't necessarily have to follow in what came before. We can carve our own way forward. I love the character of Gala. I'm still wishing her and Axel get together.
Because that had me throughout the whole book. Come on, just make out! Look, coming back! Cataclysm is coming back.
Yeah, and I think Fan-Tusen is in the cover of that one. So we'll see. Because his story ended. I was like, wait, wait.