S7 EP14: Heroes of the Galaxy

The bellings built on hugs. And welcome to another episode of Radio Rebellion Star Wars podcast. I'm your host, I'll talk about that on the other side. It's like a host of the...

What are you doing? I almost see the Halloween song that I just lost. I'm glad I'm here. I know.

I saw you got over your delay. Don't jinx it. You got out of time? Yes.

We'll see what happens as we go on. It's been a week, we were off last week. It feels like a month. I haven't talked Star Wars.

It's not like there's a lot of Star Wars. It's still for a long time. It's good to be back here. I was thinking last week, I did an episode for the Tales of Light and Life.

Other than that, I haven't been... I'm honestly a little bit disconnected from Star Wars. I don't care. Not that I don't care.

I'm just sorry, I just don't care about what's happening. There's nothing happening. Yeah. But I don't care for the discourse.

I'm just waiting for the next story. Look at an island. Just waiting for the next thing. I see the island.

I see the island. Sometimes that's enough, right? We need a break. We can be 24-7 on this, especially online.

I see now... I'll wait. I don't know. Now that everyone's able to talk about everything, it's like, I know.

Okay. But I don't know. Yeah, the talking to him here, I listen a lot to Ken Napsag. He was talking about how the strike kind of changed him.

He doesn't know about how it's going to go jumping back. At first, I was disappointed, but I was like, I think I'm in the same boat. Interesting. I don't want to stop podcasting.

That's not what I'm saying. But I'm in a different stage. Interesting. I've been a while since I've listened to Ken and all these other things.

I know we've got like 20 different things going on. But yeah, even myself, if I'm gone for a week or two, just take a break, just coming back is always kind of getting to another habit, getting back into this and also trying to find what to talk about and how to talk about everything that's going on. It's something, but we'll get into it today and we'll see what happens. Alright, if I run that series to latency for journalists, make sure that you hit that like button that turns up and if it's your first time joining us, thanks for being here.

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If you're watching this. When it drops afterwards, it was a comment down below on all the topics we're talking about. Well, this is right. What's your thoughts now?

This is where things are hopefully getting back to a little bit normal, at least for our end. What are you feeling? What are you hoping to see out there? Alright, okay.

Before we start, anybody out there in the chat? Obviously, so dude, he wrote while I was just like waiting here, I was playing bass and I saw like the message from I was like, yeah, are they the same to me? Oh, that'll be perfect. Yeah.

Ah, really? The Amanda myth, the legend saying my favorite Star Wars hero is Ray Skywalker. That's her name. Yes, it is.

That's her name. One of my favorites. We also have Alan. Hello, Alan.

What are you talking about? And of course, it wouldn't be right over the day. Oh, Dale. It was like the first one.

Hey, hey, it's Dale. Thanks for being here. Everyone that's been here today. Thanks for joining us.

Have a fun day today. Alright. So if you guys are ready, I'm not ready. Let's talk Star Wars like when I went too quickly.

Let me try this again. I don't know. I thought I was going to say something else because I wasn't ready for my play. But if you guys are ready, I'm not ready.

Let's talk Star Wars and Star Wars news. Star Wars news. I, I jinxed it. Yeah.

No, you're fine. I tried to unmute myself right. No, I realize we can do it ourselves. Yeah, it depends.

Some people say that anyway. I wanted to make two life updates. I want to make two life updates. Go ahead.

We'll start with your life updates. As I mentioned, a couple of weeks ago, I was doing some Wi-Fi changes. So let's see if I get stuck. Don't get stuck.

Whatever happens. But trying to things. I also had some lighting changes. Oh, I'm not ready to notice.

But it's usually like very dark over there. And now I make some changes to the thing. So I don't have anyone. I don't have anyone.

And the other thing I've read is the time of year where we're in different time zones. Oh, that's right. We should have mentioned it. It's like six o'clock already where there's only five here.

It's a time of the year when I walk out of this room and see darkness. Yeah. And yeah, I don't like that. Yeah.

It's also with the time change. As soon as we're done, it's going to be dark outside. At least it's like six 30s already dark. It's getting there like a five 30.

I had never seen anything like that. It's scary. Like the other day I walked out of the office. I was like, I worked with it.

It was six. So far connection is great. Hasn't jinxed anything. Lighten is fine.

So we'll keep it. I usually there's enough light coming from this window here that I have to cover it right now. It's not covered. But if I turn on my ceiling fan, then for some reason the way I have the computer set up, like a blue light starts shining.

So that's why it's a bit dark back here. I also want to mention like I fixed the lighting problem over here that we have a freaking scene. Oh man. Let me see.

I can open. Whatever. You don't need to see. Yeah.

It's bad for your skin. You're out of all skincare every night. Sometimes in the morning. I never had acne problems.

So I've never really taken care of my face. My girlfriend's always like, what do you do? I'm like, nothing. I used to be like that before gaining weight.

Drawing up. I was always a skinny one. I just need whatever. And as soon as I got married, that changed very quickly.

And now I have to run constantly to try to anyway. This is my tail that I've been drinking soda. Always. All right.

So we'll keep that seat update. Next week, we'll check it back. We'll be there next week. All right.

So I was sometime around, made somewhere late. So I can't remember. Over 118 days ago. More like 130.

I said, you know what? There's this right going on. We're going to be doing our show. We're going to keep that scroll down there going onto this track.

It's just to show support. And finally, I can say we can take that down. No more need for it because the rider's track. And now the act's right is over.

Finally, they agreed. I guess the studios agreed to most of the demands. The main demands. Having read what the decisions were.

But basically a lot of more protection for background actors, more pay, all this stuff about getting digitally scanned. And then using perpetuating whatever without getting paid. And of course, a lot of AI considerations. So yay.

Finally, actor's track is over. And we can hopefully start getting more of a star wars news. How are you feeling about all this? I'm glad the strike is over.

I'm glad people are going to get paid what, you know, what they should get paid. I'm glad people are going to get to go back to work. Because, you know, sometimes people say like, oh, it's just a long vacation. I know.

I would get bored of not working. So yeah, happy like people can move on. And hopefully this won't happen again for a long, long time. Yeah, I know they have what is another in about three years or four years.

I don't know the realization of hopefully it doesn't get to that. I saw a lot of people like very cynical like, oh, we'll just be here again in three years. Like the last week was one, like a thousand eight or something like that. Yeah.

Usually just like, that's how we do it. Yeah, I'm not going to say I'm sure this happened because I have no idea. But I'm guessing that that's some of the things I've already talked about. Do enough stuff that they don't have to be again hearing.

Hey, the reason why, you know, these strikes happens and the contract doesn't get renewed. Because like the labor force will be like, Hey, our conditions are different than for three years ago. Like things have changed this. Like, and it makes sense.

Like three years after the pandemic, people are like reevaluating. Yeah. They look, you know, what they want from work. So it makes sense that, you know, actors, writers, even the directors were like, Hey, no, no, the contract.

We haven't played this. It's not going to be enough. So hopefully in three years, it will still be enough. There was another thing.

I think it's more possible with the writers because with the AI thing, the, I can't remember like all the details, but I can remember that. At one point, I was like, Hey, we know we can't agree on this. So just like, do whatever you want and we'll just sue you. And I don't think the actors did that.

So like, awesome that they actually got a deal there versus writers where it was just like, I agree to disagree. Yeah, hopefully not. Yeah, but hopefully it won't get to that next time. Yeah.

We'll get a new university. I get a bunch of emails because they want to get into AI and this AI consortium, all this sort of stuff. It does have to do, of course, with the actors and all that stuff. Just AI and for all the users.

But still it's like every time now that we see those two little letters, just bring some of these narrative connotations. It can be used for a lot of positive things in not the art world. I mean, like, I'll mention this. I use chat GPT for work like all the time.

Like sometimes I'm documenting something and I want just like the idea of how to start. So just like, Hey, how would you approach this? And my office has also developed the AI thing, but it's more for research. It's like, Hey, go here.

But yeah, like it's, it has a lot of users. Even for the VL song, people were like, no, what are they doing? It's like, no, we're trying to split to sounds in one track. Like, come down.

Yeah. And I did hear, I should say from my work, there was, they had this big meeting I retreat and they were saying about using AI to help write something to get investigators, kind of from the right track of how to start certain things. So it can be used for stuff, but not for this, not for writing movies or TV shows, so for actors to be replaced. Yes.

Yeah. I mentioned this tag and a lot of C, which I've seen with animation, like, yeah, they're probably next. So get on those unions guys. All right.

So bringing now these two, a little bit of Star Wars stock now that that's so cast over. Marv. All these pictures. Yes.

All this behind the scenes. Hopefully they will announce a recent, this new gallery from so much stuff. That's the one just to get all the hidden criticism things, all these background pictures that we're seeing from the man. I'm thinking about the one for Kanoi, which was like, yeah, we hopefully we see that picture of Lars, like.

I just saw it on our, I was just loud in there. And they basically blew. I thought everything was CGI. He was picked up below.

What am I doing here? But Loki's done. We know it kind of goes Star Wars MCU, Star Wars MCU. We know that.

Sorry. What? It's time for Star Wars. I don't know.

I don't think we're getting anything this year's Skeleton Crew should be the next one. We know Echo has been announced for the MCU, but that's all dropping one day, which is surprising. And I think that's early in January. What an experiment they're doing.

Yeah. So where do you think, or what do you would hope that Skeleton Crew gets announced? Or we get some, I don't want to say trailer because we know Star Wars likes to give their trailers for their way closer. But do you think maybe update gets announced at some point this year and then let's say by February, we get Skeleton Crew?

No, Star Wars will just post a poster. Yeah. And then like, Jan, are you three? I hope they just released a trailer like one day.

Like nobody's expecting a no good morning, America. Just 10 a.m. Star Wars official Twitter boom trailer. Then I do that for Ken Orwee for the first one.

It was something that they didn't announce it. I just kind of dropped on a random Tuesday. I don't remember what it was. It was a while back.

I'll take it. I'll give me something. Just do it. Just do that.

Not building. Skeleton Crew is one of those. I'm interested to see what this is. We have no idea.

It's new characters which is why we've been complaining about for a long time. So new characters, kind of a new side of the galaxy. Give me some Skeleton Crew kids, ambling styles, stranger things. We're now a little bit.

They're apparently going to Paredia. If they get to Paredia, I'm going to smack you across the face. I can say. I'll be like, okay.

It's just a thought. All right. So let's keep going our second kind of new site for this week. We're going to talk a little bit about phase three of the High Republic.

We got some concept art. I know Alan out there. He's a big fan of the High Republic. So we got some new concept art for phase one characters.

New Ava, Korea, Sportalengo, Buriaga, Vernes, and of course, the back guys. Gira, Sarah, and Marjean, Ro. I forgot to mention Bell and Amber. It's been a year, but it looks like it's taken its toll on a lot of them.

They look a lot more mature. I know phase one. I don't know how long phase one was. They say one year and then another year here.

Did you see that nine year thing for phase three? No. So I didn't say that to you because I didn't know what the source was. I think it was a picture that had the High Republic logo and it said the year span.

It was nine years, but I didn't know what book it was. So I didn't know if it was an official thing. But yeah, it was like the whole thing took nine years. No, no, no.

It had the High Republic logo. It said phase three and the year span was nine years. The story's inside phase three. Wow.

Just I just said phase three and it was a nine years span. Having read, having read, I have darkness. It's, I don't know how this, I mean, who knows about nine years inside too much to me right now. So I was thinking, maybe we can talk about this a little bit later, but like I was, I was dying to read, I have darkness just to have an idea on what phase three is going to be.

Yeah. And then I started thinking like when I read phase one, I had like such a different like view of what the High Republic was going to be. I could have never imagined the whole level or mark on turning into this mastermind, the whole path of the open hand thing. So I got even more excited for it's face three because a lot of things can happen.

All right. So let me write something here. I'm going to go check. I'm going to write spoiler.

Let's talk about the eye of dog. Yeah. And regarding the character images, I mean, I have not out of context for them, but I'm excited. I like pointers little helmet looks like a droid part.

Now that I'm talking about I have darkness. I didn't, I tell you that able Chris has changed her Africa. She's hiding in the occlusion. So she's not going to be there with her white and gold robes.

I didn't expect this, but it's good to have those visuals now kind of thinking back to the book. All right. I'm going to go to the next spoiler free review for the darkness. Anyone out there that wants to go completely without any knowledge, they just tune out for the next five to 10 minutes and then come back or just work mute.

And then when you see the little spoiler free down there, that's gone. You can come back in, but I'll do my best. So I'm sorry. I love this book.

The other darkness by Josh Mann. I love everything he did. I enjoyed face two of the high republic from us a little bit of a step down from face one. We're right back to face one status for me.

Maybe it's the characters or maybe it's the situation they're friend or self seen. But from the start and this was in a prolog. They've released three prologs with this book. Some of them are very spoilery.

I don't know if you read all of them. So the first one. The also man one, which happens. I want to say maybe chapter one or chapter two, so straight early in the book.

It kind of felt like I didn't really get what was going on. So the book started the prologue and it's the prologue. So I don't consider this too much of a spoiler, but this is the only spoiler thing I will say. It's toys with wearing now territory.

It's marching row. Do an experiment on a july using the level or the name list to do experiments on this july master that they've trapped. And it's what we know. At least not someone that I know.

To me this is a brand new character. Pratree Vetter. I think it's Grandmaster Pratree. Pratree Vetter.

Some weird names. So it starts that way. So you know this book is going to be going to hit you. But I love that it's not what I thought it was going to be in terms of, okay, face one is I mean, face three is being one year since the first storyline.

The july piece they're going to be kicking ass and taking names. This is not it. I'm still trying to figure out what they have happened and how to confront the now. The now are behind that storm wall that we learned during tells of the july.

So the storm wall is this invisible magnetic field basically that you cannot cross it using hyperspace because you just get pulled out of it and you get crushed and destroyed. Or as soon as you get pulled into the occlusion zone which is the now space in outer ring that you're just going to blow you up anyways. And you cannot traverse it just through sublight engines. So it takes about 10 years to go through it.

So basically they're divided the galaxy into republic side and one side in now galaxy or now space in the other. But of course using the path engines they can go back and forth. So they're still jumping to republic space and control of planets over there and then jumping back. So you have on the course and side you have also man, Alina.

So just feeling the weight of stem and gos is death trying to figure out how to lead without him. We know that he was very close with both of them. Poor Elsa man is growing even a beard. So he's starting to look like the idea says that it's not on purpose but halfway through double his arms starting to get used to it.

So he's going to that person now. But like from that excerpt that we started also managed to do some else and stuff. You're waiting for it. I'm not going to spoil it.

But basically also man wants to bring the fight to the now. It's been one year we need to find a way across the strong wall because we were going to lose faith in us. We're just standing here. And Lina so wants to do it by on a political way.

Because from her point of view and also from the jail account. So it's. He wants to be like a climatic with my camera. So not to get too much into spoilers.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no with my camera. But you have a star. And it's more. She's on with the now she's telling marking row.

This is not sustainable. And let's try. Hey, you guys. But it's not.

It's pretty early on that they said that they want to have those conversations with someone from denial. So you know it's going to be the senator. But it's also the Republic. And the council telling Elsa do understand that this is a big problem.

But the galaxy is still moving. There's other issues that we need to address. It's not just the now. So it's trying to find that balance.

And then we get. I'm not going to say who it is. But we get the reveal of who was the mysterious person that showed up with Yoda at the end of Midnight Horizon. They play a part in this book.

I'll leave it there. And then from the now side we get interested in some cool characters, these ministers. So we have the Minister of Information, which I believe that's Giro Starros, Minister of Defense and Minister of Advancement, who's this Bullyo character. You're giving too much away.

Well, they're just okay. Go read the book. No, you're just. I just want to like.

What to expect? So don't expect a lot of. If you worked if you were to compare to one of the novels that already exists, which one would you compare to? Oh, man.

It's more or less not a novel, but you know, after the fall, is it the Claudia Grey story on Tells of Light and Life that they're. They're trying to figure out how to move forward. It's kind of that you have Jedi on the now side behind your clue. So I'm trying to find a way to get out and they have Jedi on this side trying to go in.

But it's not that easy because they can find a way to it. Plus they still need to figure out how to keep the piece around this. The barrier to the stormwalk as they now can see what you're back and forth. Okay.

Favorite character for the book? I like that we got a lot of Eva Chris because she's been relegated a lot to the comics recently. We have a movie got a lot with her. Oh, well.

Her and Elsa, I think, are my favorite. They're from the Jedi side. They're the ones that get the most springtime quote unquote. So it's more of a L.S.R.N.

A.Y.Y. story. You want to know who the main character is? I think it's a spoiler.

Just seeing that if they release the concept, so these are the characters that show up from the Jedi side is mostly L.S.R. A.Y.Y. part. We get a little bit with Belle and Buriaga.

Lena has a lot to do with it. So she's really good in the book. We get a little bit of Yola and some new council members. And then on the now side, it's Mark and Row, Gira Starros.

And these new, instead of Tempest runners are these new ministers, basically, which are these characters doing stuff for him. Don't get specifics. Are the Tempest runners around? They're not mentioned at least on this book.

Oh, really? Yes. I don't know if that's a spoiler, but they're... Does the book mention what happened to them?

Do you want to know? No. They don't mention it. Okay, so they're okay.

Perfect. There is a character that's missing Lorna. So that's one of the things on my written review that I wrote. I made my Tempest runners.

I don't know if they're going to show up somewhere else. I did miss them in this book. And the balcony and the mech suit. Yeah.

There might be somewhere else. There's a lot of comic books that I, when I said something Starlight, fall of Starlight or Death of Starlight. We've actually seen pictures of Lorna B. Yeah, so you're saying comic book covers?

Yeah. Are you excited for what sex? Excited for what sex? For what sex?

Yes, because not getting to spoilers, I love the way the book ended. Is that word that's for if I say... Oh, don't say it. I really like the way that this ended and were...

I'm very excited for the next stories. I'm very sad I need to wait until like March or the next book. Sorry again, I can't get into all the comics. Maybe I know there's only four issues.

I'm not getting into that one. But I just want the next book here because I'm like, go, go. I love this. I'm always here.

I'm always. I'm thinking about how to phrase this question. Okay. Without specifics.

Again, without specifics. With each of the novels specifically, there are certain points where I go like, oh, this is probably where the YA is going to go. Oh, this is probably where the young readers are going to go. Is there like a moment like that?

I think if you know which ones they are because by knowing the titles of the next novels and books, you can piece a little bit. Okay. So there's something I have one concern. Not one concern, just one negative and I won't say it because it will be a spoiler, but I think it will be addressed somewhere else either in the comics.

I think there's a book and by the title, I think that's going to be there, but that book doesn't come out till fall of 2024, which I think waiting a year for that to be revealed is too long. But again, we have so many comics and stuff. But I love that we got. There's a lot of characters, but the way that book was divided is like the first third is mostly Elsa man, Lena, so, and then the now, then the second part is mostly able to support that angle and what the matter is doing.

And then the third, the third third is everything together. So a lot of cool Jedi moments, a lot of cool Nile moments in terms that you hate smart young cat is something that he does that you just want to do. I hate you, but you're so good. I agree with that.

There's always something that he does. Yeah, I mean, it's the anniversary of Star like Beacons Fall. Oh, he must be so happy. Yes.

And notice I won't be getting to about the Republic's like, no, no, or the chatter says that nothing's going to happen. And also it's like, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good. We got it.

And then we'll see what happens because it's one day. But I love this book. I love everything about it. Oh, Josh, man, which I wasn't the biggest fan of, but of Jetta.

This is a great job getting us going. And I know, and I put this straight like this on my review. I know that one of the biggest concerns for people is how much I need to read to get into the Republic. I just jump into phase three and most people will say no.

And maybe I'm just in this because I know everything that's happened before. So it's it's a fun thing. But I got a feeling of watching a new Vope for a first time and reading the crawl and reading all these desktop plans that were taken. And here are the clock words for the first time and you weren't lost.

There's things that happen. I think it was a good job kind of setting what has happened in phase one and phase two that even if you haven't read all these stories, you'll get that gist of it and go, you know, yeah, still in geo. I don't know what happened to him, but it was a very important character in Jedi. It's going to be part of why also manage acting that way that he is.

All right, so I'll leave it there. Sorry if I said too much. I don't think I did. Hopefully not.

I'll let you know when I read the book. All right. And this is the book. Yeah, no, I don't think I spoke any any big moments are still there.

So when is it no, I'm a 14th, which is next Tuesday, right next Tuesday's when this comes out. Oh, okay. Here in a thousand two days. Hopefully we'll do our own spoiler reviews early December or something.

Sounds all right. So that does it for Star Wars news. Let's get to our main topic today. One of our, I guess main topics is talk about heroes of the galaxy.

There are so many heroes in Star Wars. That's why we're here for. Let's try to focus on a little field them. I've done enough shows talking about our favorite villains, favorite, favorite lights, every fights, weird creatures.

We haven't talked about our heroes, which is what Star Wars is about. Right. So what makes a good heroes? I guess the first thing it's kind of difficult.

Right. See just the one that the main character is someone working in the shadows, someone that goes through trials and tribulations. But what would you consider if you're trying to explain to someone what a hero in Star Wars or what qualities you look for when you're trying to, when you're making your list for today's show, what were you thinking about? I mean, I think there's only one answer.

Skywalker. It's everything he goes through, like answering the call, like reluctantly answering the call. They see your fears, making new friends, and learn what you have learned. Throw me the lightsaber away at the end.

So it's for me, that's what a hero is, like whatever it looked like. All right. So let's, before we go into maybe some other mentions and then talk about some others, let's just get Luke out of the way because that's the easy answer. That's my top answer.

And I'm going to say, yeah, as we go, this is not going to be a number five, number four, three to one. I think it's impossible to classify Star Wars series that way, except Luke Skywalker. It's what the story is. Everything goes through.

When people talk about the hero journeys, he's the prime example, right? The bright eye, foreign boy, looking through the stars, wishing for a better life, and everything he wanted to do, and then even going to the sequel to the which again, maybe last year is my favorite, but everything with Luke I love and makes sense to me through the haters. And what? Yeah.

I might have Jane on my phone list. I want to get to her in a few minutes. Yeah. For me, every single hero we get ties back to Luke, like I'll measure them always like next one.

And he's not even my favorite star. It's him. He's the guy. He's Jesus.

It's one of those things when drawing up. He was the only hero, not the only one, but when you watch Star Wars for most people, I know now people like to say, oh, I saw that was my favorite and all that. all that, but at least for myself growing up, that's why I identified with. Luke Skywalker was the only Jedi that was, that was was for a young eight year old or whatever, what did you like all through?

So Luke Skywalker has always been that top guy from in terms of heroes, who's the top Jedi Luke Skywalker I think is just gonna be there for no static purposes. But again, it's not my favorite character, probably maybe not my favorite character, but that's Skywalker family. But in terms of heroes, if you need to point at someone, that's why I Luke Skywalker. How he got there, made us through stepping on Jean and casting shoulders, but we'll see.

So some kind of honorable mention. And again, everything that happens in Star Wars is in service of his story. So it's him. It's a reason he's called this Skywalker's second, right?

We're not finicking and Ray, but. That's actually why I don't like the Skywalker's second, because everything is how we got to that point. And it's still going. But also when you go to, in that even video games, right?

I haven't played, it's a battlefront two where he has this great conversation with one of the characters. There's one of the top Luke moments that people keep talking about. And so that's it. When he does in Shadow's other cities, another great example.

And then of course, last Jedi, understanding the failures of the Jedi, we're still pushing through it to train Ray, another top with her friend, Yoda, to then step up. Why is it Adam Christopher writing another book? Maybe he hasn't been announced. I mean, he would do a freaking good, great, high-re-poly book.

Oh, he would crush that. Oh, you imagine like, they do spin-offs after this is over and like, oh, Adam Christopher is writing our role family story. Something? What was Skywalker?

Yeah, before the Aquilite, as we get ready for the Aquilite, he writes a tiny novel for that. That'll be freaking awesome. Because I would say I don't think that high-re-poly, even after phase three, I think they're going to keep doing something afterwards. I don't think it's ending with...

Michael Siggling? That's the same, right? Yeah. He was like, stay tuned.

We got you. I'm never making money for us. Relax. Yes.

You know what? He was going to write a Mandalorian novel that we didn't know for us. He'll be a face system, one or system, two. Yeah, we're just going to write a shell solace.

Which, thank you. That's a little better. That's how it turned out. So some honorable mentions that I have.

And people might yell at me. And that's fine. And if you're in the chat, apart from yelling at me, let us know like most of it, some of your favorite heroes. So I have Han Solo in my honorable mention.

I know he was one of the big three. But I wouldn't put him in that category right now. Quiet gun, Jin. It's right there for me.

This is going to say, Anakin Skywalker. I think... Really? No, I think he should be discussed.

All right. Let's talk about Anakin Skywalker. It's a hero of the galaxy after five years or 10 years of killing everyone. Anakin does something a lot of us can't do.

After decades of lying to himself, he manages to break that spell he built for himself. And that's the nicest thing else in the game. OK. No, he's of course a cautionary tale.

He did atrocious things. But he was also a guy who cared a lot. And that was his fatal flaw. He cared way too much.

And in that sense, he would do anything for us. He would do anything for us. It can all be. And yeah, I think of course his most heroic agar is what he does at the end.

He manages to break free of the dark side and embrace the light in him. Knowing full well, it's going to kill him. So yeah. All right.

Well, yeah, maybe a lot of cool things during the Clone Wars. Oh, no, if it's cool things, yeah, he's one of the coolest. I'm sure he did some war crimes also during the Clone Wars Wars, but I mean, probably almost all the heroes have. So I don't know.

I can put on that list of when I think about heroes and I can see a worker, he's not there. He did a very heroic thing at the end. Maybe the most heroic, like you said, just coming back from his fall to then. He's not the prime example of being a hero, but I think he's a hero.

All right. That's from the end of the day. He's also a villain. Yes.

He's a hero. Oh, yes, of course. And he's going to get blowback, I think. And I have Ray Skywalker, still not in my top.

I'm waiting for her movie coming out to see if I move her to my OK. Yeah, let me tell me why I'm wrong. Ray Skywalker should be there. Ray Skywalker should be there for the emperor.

Ray Skywalker. Wow, right. She rejects the call constantly. It's very obvious to her that it's her cold answer.

I really like Ray's journey. Again, she, for the first of all, she's like, I don't want to go. I'm out of here. I don't want to be here.

I came here to give you the sword. I don't want to do it. But every time people depend on her answering their call, she does. In Force Awakens, she's like, screw it.

I'll do it. She picks up the lightsaber and picks Kylo's butt. In Force Awakens, in Last Jedi, she does the same thing. She's like, oh, look, you're not going to come.

Fine. I'll go. And I'll give the sword to Kylo. Oh, Kylo, you're not taking it, then fine.

I'll do it myself. And then in my first Skywalker, she finally embraces her role as the leader of sorts. I don't know. She's one of those characters that, for me, is completely incorruptible.

Oh, yeah. I keep that. We don't lose that for the whole time. If they ever do this story where she falls to the dark side, I'd be like, and here's my curse word.

I'd be like this bullshit. She never, I don't think she's ever in danger of falling. Like, even when she learns the power thing thing, even in Rise of Skye and Last Jedi, when Kylo's like, hey, join me. I don't think there's ever a scenario where she breaks.

And it's like, yeah, I'll do it. So. All right. I love Rey.

I love Rey. I mean, there's a reason Force Awakens is one of my favorite movies. And it's Rey has a lot to do with it. I say, right.

Again, it's so that everyone has to be on this list. So I need to put a cut out and somewhere. Unfortunately, she was there. And I don't know.

These guys, I have Mon-Nothma, Belo Ganna. I mean, they did a lot to get the rebellion going. And then I'm going to throw these two out, that they almost made the cuts. But there's none of these on all measures.

Looten Rail, of course, kind of from the background. And I think Taladurid. Yeah. Taladurid.

I think Taladurid did something very important, dropping away from the empire, helping the Jedi find safe space with this corridor. I forgot the name that it was. That she was doing. And then not sacrifice herself, but die at the hands of the empire, trying to get Obi-Wan, Kanawe, Leia, and all the other rebel members away from this planet before Darth Vader gets there.

I think she certainly has a mention on those on the wall. All right. So let's get. We're going to talk about Luke Skywalker.

It's a heavy falling. So I'm going to throw in here, Stell and Geos. That's one of my favorite heroes of the galaxy. From the Rising Storm.

And we saw it just from the cover with the lightsaber spinning, saving Lena. So crediting her at the end of that huge battle to then sacrificing himself, starting to save everyone from the falling star like Bikon. I think you can send it to your sister. Why is he there?

I want more. But he's one of my favorite Jedi for the little bit that we go with them. And he's one of my top heroes. He's dead because Elsar and Avon need to grow.

Yes. Avon was this hero that we thought was, you know, like she was done. Like there was nothing more to her. And in the comics, she's taken on a wild ride, where that character goes.

And Elsar man is extremely immature. So Stalin, yeah, he needed to die. Yeah, I wonder if that will be mentioned in Eye of Darkness. I, he's someone I like because he's someone who's, I think his biggest conflict is the fact that he desperately wants to do the right thing.