S7 EP7: Review: Ahsoka EP5

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Oh, I saw a comment. I think you're our friend who was here last week. I don't know if I can put it out there yet, but I told you in the chat, but it's just a thing. Alright, I'm saving that comment.

Alright, you know what, let's just go. Let's go ahead and start. So if you guys already, I'm not ready. You said we were going to talk about another thing first.

Can I make my intro? It has nothing to do with a story. Okay, if you guys are ready, I'm not ready. Let's start wars.

That's our intro, all the way for the past three years. And Star Wars news, that's where we're going. So yeah, we're doing Star Wars news. Star Wars news.

I've read to you, you definitely have a delay because you were like your con out was already here. So I don't know because I checked and you said you had too many things safe, too many videos. I took half of them out. I tried it earlier.

It's fine as soon as I saw it like a two second delay. It's fine. You should just tell me, do you see the videos and you just select the videos on the brand? No, you don't want to deal with it?

I don't have access to any of that. So like any one else show you what what I don't have access to anything. Alright, one day I'll give you full control of the show and then you can I don't know if I want to give you that power. Anyway, let's talk about Lando.

Oh, the final talk about some of the Lando movie. The Lando series is in our movie is an active issue. We don't know. So during our appearance of the Pablo Torres finds out podcast, I guess Lando writer Steven, Global Revealed at the London Development Series might turn out to be a movie after all.

I'm quoting here from Sowers NewsNet. Well, Steven, Global said, oh yeah, I can pretty much be like, yeah, we're doing a I mean, it's not even a show. The idea right now is to do a movie. But like that's the thing right now because of the strike.

Everything is kind of a telephone game. All the information is coming out. So it's kind of weird. Like he just said, the strike is going.

We don't know where this deal or conversations are happening. Is it really a movie? He just talking because he wants to say something. All day when you saw this news, anything came out of it.

And then again, as we go in, do you see this more as a movie instead of TV I, the only thing I could think about was Captain Kennedy in celebration of being interviewing me. Like what about all these projects that were happening and didn't have my shoes like, we announced those. So that's where I'm going. Like, yeah, Donald Glover's brother says this for him.

I don't know what's gonna happen. Nothing can happen right now. So yeah. I have a pitch for them.

I have a pitch for them. All right, let's hear it. Not a show. Not a movie.

A shield is gonna be a concept album about Lando stories. That would be awesome. Throw it up. Let's do like a lemony thing.

We have like a very like, elaborate music video, but it's an album. You are a fan of, I know you love solo. He was trying to do solo movie. Were you interested in another, like, way, I mean, were you excited when this Lando show was announced?

Then we heard that the global brothers were gonna be working on it. And now with these, let's say news that it might be, I'm a way, where do you land? I was, I was, I was probably in the minority where I think that the lando was probably my least favorite part of solo. I just, I agree.

He was just being himself, which is fine. Whatever. I'm sorry. I said, I'm sick.

But I was excited for more. I'm always excited for more Star Wars stories. And whether that's, they realized that like TV show is probably too much. A movie is probably better.

If it's a movie, I still think it'll end up just being stringed on Disney+. That's what I was gonna ask. And this be straight to videos, straight to streaming movie. I know the first Star Wars foray on that.

I think that might be what will happen. Honestly, if they were gonna like try this, like jumping those waters, I think Lando would be the perfect cast. I agree with Buck. It's something I didn't like him as Lando.

I just thought he was just like doing an imitation, which I guess, but people love that performance. So I think it will be original trilogy character and be a little bit actor. I think it could work. Yeah.

I mean, it's, Lando has always kind of been sadly second tier anyway. Whether he's top tier in our hearts. I wonder why. Yeah.

Yes. Sadly, it's the way it is. And I know that like when they first started writing Star Wars novels, like the fact that they had Han Solo and then the Lando Calreas and Chronicles being like the next thing was kind of surprising in my mind because it wasn't a character you were expecting them to go with for stories, even back in the early eighties. So you're like, this is interesting.

But so like to do a foray into another movie as opposed to a TV series, possibly debuting on Disney Plus. Lando is a good choice. Everyone, I think people love him enough to check him out, but probably not enough to go to the theater. Sadly.

Yeah. I've always been before Solo. I've liked the Lando Calreas and character. I never wasn't the biggest fan.

He was in two movies. So he wasn't kind of the main draw. He had a lot to do in return to the Jedi. Love, don't know, love his performance in Solo, but that's not why I went to watch the movie.

I know what I came out kind of cheering. Oh, I need more Lando stories. So even when this was announced years ago, I was like, like you said, okay, it's much Star Wars. I'll watch it, of course.

But I wasn't like, yeah, here we go. This is what I've been waiting for going now to a movie. It's kind of interesting if let's say this is where it goes, like all the mentioned in celebration that announced three movies. We've heard for a while that they're gonna take their time between movies.

I know with all the strikes, there've been some shuffling, but that's just to move things around. So it's this movie coming out in four years, six years, seven years when no one cares about it. We'll eat one of those three that was an outside dout. So that's what I started thinking like you said about maybe this is no stress to Disney Plus, which has worked for them in the past with some of the big some movies like turning red, for example, that didn't go to the theaters and everyone loved that movie was playing on my house on loop and a lot of all the movies have been like that.

So it wouldn't surprise me. I know some extreme fans are they will, oh, look what Star Wars is doing on straight to video, but whatever, we don't care about that. But also like, oh, we have no idea. Sorry.

Sorry. Star Wars has never been limited by medium. Like, oh no, the Ewoks movies, the cartoons, like Star Wars has always been able to fit in any medium in either two. Yeah.

So maybe was that they didn't have a story for eight shows or eight episodes or they decided maybe they made me spare as a TV show. I mean, a movie, but again, this is just, you know, speculation. Just people talking right now. We're no deals coming later.

So hopefully when this track is over, hopefully that happens soon that we can learn a little bit more about it. Can I just say like, for me, it's very weird to see how everyone just ran with we're getting a Lando movie when his comments were basically like, we're seeing maybe perhaps that's our intention. And also from what we know, the change of, you know, writers and creators, creators in that story changed like very recently. So it's probably that probably that they went like, Hey, Kathy, can we do a movie?

And she's like, okay, write something. Bring me the story. And now we're in a story. So they can write anything.

So for me, it's like very weird that everyone just like ran with it like, like, we do it everywhere. It was everywhere. Letting responsibly. No, they didn't follow out the shirts.

I saw that first report coming and then everyone just kept doing that. And then like trades. Oh, we heard from this and that, oh, yeah, it's happening. It was on variety.

But I'm not just repeating the same thing. Like, nothing new can happen right now. So yeah. All right.

And we go now to our main topic, Otty. We always were here. There we go. What's that?

I don't know. Okay. Yes. All right.

Star Wars on TV. So good. It would be a very eighties theme song. Once again, I know the run.

Look, I don't know why. I know me. Can I have a little bit of Cody? No, how bad the lag is right now on my side.

I didn't even get that into it went straight to Star Wars on TV. And then you guys were talking. Anyway, I have no problems. I think the only thing I'm getting is a little bit lag for Otty.

So yeah, he's always behind. Yeah, but I think it's your fault because my fault stream. I got that word that way. You have your own connection.

I don't know what happens, but like if I run like a speed test, it's like, oh, yeah, you have 600 steady gigabytes. So I don't know what's happening. Me neither. All right.

All right. We start who's out there in the chat. Mo we have Roberto Lerega. Oh, right.

He is Tony talking about the Lando thing in the same way that the MCU tried the special presentation thing with where will by night could be interesting for Star Wars. Yeah, I think it could work with my night was pretty successful. Right? Yeah, I was pretty though.

And they're doing like the rerelease and color, which I was like, this is stupid. And then I saw like the frames. I'm like, oh, this is cool. I'm always interested to see.

Anyway, I think I'll prefer the black or white, but it'd be fun to see. But the color scheme looks awesome. So I'm excited for it. Uh, Robert does height for the Lando movie.

I can't wait for it. Okay. Oh, speaking of theater. We're talking about Brandon.

Oh, Brandon. How you doing? Brandon is in the chat. Dale is in the chat.

He forgot. He's always the first one to say something. He forgot. I forget you.

Dale. All right. So speaking of going to the theaters, Bug, not only are you probably one of the biggest Ahsoka fans in terms of the characters that I know, but you get a chance to go to the theater and watch episode five. I wasn't that experienced.

It was pretty surreal. We went to my husband and I were able to get tickets for the screening in Seattle, Seattle. It was like 25 minutes outside of Seattle, but okay. And, uh, you know, the line was already, he got there before me because he works in Seattle.

And, you know, the line was already pretty packed. They had to turn people away. Yeah, but it was nice because, you know, we got free free posters. They had these fun little QR codes to scan for Snapchat.

Like it does the Ahsoka filters. You can have them on trails and like you. And we got free popcorn and soda, which was nice. And it was streamed on a iMac screen.

Oh, wow. It was nice. Like, it was just really big. Like I wasn't expecting to see it like that ever.

And the fact that we did get that experience was a wonderful blessing to see the Star Wars, I think is best viewed the first time communally. That's why I love the fact that I moved the show to six o'clock Pacific on Tuesday night, nine o'clock Eastern. Like that's awesome for Americans, at least. Like that communal experience is great.

Being able to hear like the everyone just kind of go, they just get quiet as people are speaking Anakin's on screen. Laughing at Carson Tiva's, you know, okay. And then Rex. Rex got the biggest response.

Oh, I did. Oh, when he finally spoke the whole theater of updating chairs. So, okay. Rex is left.

I'll say that's one of the things that I miss when I go to a theater here. I go probably to the first screening that they have. Not first in the minute. Like Friday 10 in the morning just because it's easier for me to go to that one.

So it's not that packed and people are quiet. No one's cheering. No one's yelling. So all these hours movies I seen here has just been quiet.

And I go online and I was talking about this great experience that they had and I missed that. So I'm glad you had a chance. Well, they show this important. No, they did it.

No. I know it wasn't here either. I actually checked like in my girlfriend's area and no theater. No.

Well, here's the thing that I realized when you're doing these Go Fobo things, you kind of any of these online drops, you kind of have to game the system a little bit. Because if I use my personal zip code, nothing will show up because I don't live in Seattle anymore. You have to choose the city that's like the largest city that's like close to you. You think there would be in like no, there's a code there or ace of code there and then it will pop up.

So that's what I did. I used my old Seattle zip code. I lived in Seattle a couple years ago and I was like, oh, I'll just show my old zip code. And then finally the theater popped up and I was like, okay.

And so of course you have to drive. It was like an hour and a half away. Yeah. And like you said, and I saw a lot of people posting that.

Oh, I have a ticket. Everybody's too full and I got turned away. So I don't want to drive an hour to your say. Sorry, you're 10 minutes late.

Everything's full now. I think Tony got there like two hours early. I think he texted me like it's six. Like, oh, I'm already here.

Okay. Okay. My husband was shot up in the area about two hours early. He had an interview call and he stole his like, stood in line pretty early and he wasn't even near the front.

Like, oh, wow. It's like, look, yeah, you have to show up to these things kind of early. I was only, I think the only reason we got as good as we did was because he was there before me. All right.

So let's get into it. I'm going to start and guess to everyone. I was, I don't want to say I was hard on it, but we had a little fun talking about D.H. Hayden last week that he didn't look the best.

All in my words, because episode five, he was perfect. There were times like, I don't know what is this. It just went back in time. They just erased wrinkles.

What's going on? I literally saw him and went like, are you an angel? That's what I thought. He looked very angelic at the end of last episode.

And I think part of it is the way the lighting works in the World of Return Worlds. He has that under lighting. It's very like one solid color. It's like a ring light.

So of course it's not the wrinkles. I didn't know. I didn't even know. I was saying that he reminded me of the vampire from Twilight.

Okay. Too perfect to shiny, but not last week. This week it was perfect. I don't know if I mentioned it here, but like last episode I saw it in my parents' TV, which is terrible.

And it didn't look that bad to me, but this week I saw it here. So I had like the awesome TV and it looked awesome. All right. So as we go through this, we can talk about the World of Return World.

And last week or till we spent a lot of time talking about the World of Return World. Is it going to be a 4k kind of dark side vision? Is it Anakin's force ghost? Is it all three?

Was it something completely different? I'm still 100% sure. And I love Michael's. I love it.

So the answer to the question, if it's the World of Return Worlds, it's like the kind of answer I love. It doesn't matter. Like if you wanted to be the World of Return Worlds, it is. Yeah.

But so maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Like I usually do, but I've seen like, I don't know what it's going to say. Whatever. Yeah.

I don't know if it was the World of Return Worlds. I just believe it wasn't. Okay. I also agree that I don't entirely think that it was the World between Worlds.

Yeah. It was like a World between Worlds. Okay. Well, that's the thing, right?

Like just they talk about the World between the Worlds being kind of like the force between the Worlds and Narnia. Right. So it's kind of a pathway to reach other realms. And so it could look different depending on who's in it.

But I think the wonderful thing about all these things is like, it's what we need it to be. I was talking on a Nerd Academy on Tuesday night afterwards, and we all had a different viewing of this. We all had a different takeaway from this whole episode. And I kind of think that's when Star Wars is at its best, because it's like they weren't in conflict with each other.

We just took a different lesson away from it that I think was important to each of us. And I think that's what this episode is about, right? Like he's, what is it? Anakin is saying to a soca.

What is the force saying to a soca? Is it that you need to learn? And there's a lot there. So whether it happened in the world between Worlds or it was all inside her head, or was the force vision, it doesn't matter.

Like another that matters because she still walked away from it changed. And that was what's important. For me, that's one of the reasons why Star Wars has lasted so long. It's that we all love the force and lose journey and all that.

But it might be for something different, same with Anakin and Ray and everything. And we can have three different interpretations that the ending is going to be the same, but how we get this from a different, that's why it keeps this franchise energetic and different, keeps everyone talking. And I saw a few tastes of people saying, oh, we don't know what happens. So that means that it only doesn't know.

Whatever, you're going to be very specific. No, that's Star Wars always being like this. And even though I said last week, oh, I think this Anakin is just this dark side vision or dark side moment for us. So we're kind of, we're moments that we look like that, but there are also moments that just went to this flashback.

And this is not really different from what we've seen before. And then the confrontation that had in the world between Worlds and the end, that can be world between Worlds, that can be just for mine going where she needed to be. So it's all these things, all at once, and we all take different meaning from it. And we can go right there, but like to mention, there's a lot of...

Go ahead. I'm actually, George is always kind of one of stories to be that way. Like we go back to Luke, or Mark Hamill talking about his performance when he finds out that he wanted to be a certain way, and George was like, and the reason George wanted that was so that the audience member can impart themselves onto Luke in those moments. And it's the same thing.

Star Wars is meant for us to impart ourselves into the main characters and moments like this. So whether it be Anakin or Luke or Ahre, we get to try to put ourselves in their shoes in the moment and impart our own experiences onto it and learn the lessons that we're supposed to learn along with them. It's before you put that comment on it, and just very similar to what you said, but it's when I watched the finale for Man of Season 2, I broke down crime, which a lot of people did because they saw Luke, to me as a father as Mando was, giving your son away. Basically, that was my position, and I just bought all day.

Because like you said, we just wore ourselves on our experiences right there. It was very much Brian Barry's experience, you know, and dad who's adopted three kids, like really hits him hard because he's like, I can imagine giving me when the kids, you know. You know, from our experiences to this, it's very much the Lukeum, big about it, you know, only what we take with us into the case. You know, the reason we don't need our weapons is because it's what we bring with us is what we take out of thing as well on counter.

All right, Otay, you had a comment there. I love most comments. In my very perfect opinion, it was not about between worlds, but it was cool anyway. Exactly.

It was cool. At the end of the day, is it cool and we are, we're fine with it. We have a fun take. Like the hieroglyphic state of force, different world between worlds is how we use the force, maybe.

It's very interesting to take that. So let's talk about that, her journey through, let's just say we're between worlds, because it's easier just to talk like that right now. And Otay, last week, I kind of mentioned, I think they're going to fight, you didn't want it. They do have a weird fight right there at the beginning, just to leave or die and have their little talk.

I was like the king, I don't want them to fight and the minute those lights, I was like, oh, yeah, that was cool. That fight was very cool. It is really good to see Hayden just still be a powerhouse after all this time. Hey, you don't know that.

How powerful Anakin is. I think it's nice. I haven't forgotten how much of a powerhouse Anakin is with a lightsaber now. How much of a moment, there's a moment where nobody realized how dangerous you were, because you were so powerful.

We're going to get to that comment. That fight, I love, like you said, that powerful Anakin that we've kind of forgot. It's kind of Vader and it's a little bit different in him in the suit, because we can't expect him to be that powerful. We're just seeing, again, on crisp Vader going full at it, and Anakin.

I love now we started with Bailin, and I would say with Anakin, when they clash those sabers and then do that extra push, just a very cool visual. But of course, it just leads to when he goes to the floor, and now we go to one of the first missions on, I saw people saying, I can't remember all the missions they went in this flashback. Young Asoka, very surprised that we went as young with that soca, but it was one of my favorites. For me, all the journey as he went through, I really liked those two flashbacks with Young Asoka in that first mission, Dana and Sicha Mandaror, because that conversation that they had, why she was there, choose to live, choose to die.

And when she's talking about, well, why am I here? All we're doing is fighting. All these clones died, because I was leaning there, and it's like, well, there's a different time now. When all we want to train me, we were going to the peace, then we have to be soldiers, I need to teach you to survive.

And I love that scene, and we'll keep going afterwards, where I get you guys take on that first flashback, when Dana and Diosa settle, and she goes through this clone trooper and puts her hand on him, then he's comforting her at the same time. And I think that helps for what I think was her final lesson at the end of repeat this later, but I just love that little scene that he, yeah, you're comforting me, but I think I also need to comfort you, because you're a freaking 14 years old, throwing in this war. It's not your fault. But for you going and seeing again, you have the Asoka shirt on, seeing Young Asoka in live action, play wonderfully, I forgot the actress, she's done a lot.

Eric, I agree on the green black. Yeah. So what are you're starting this first? Young Asoka?

I was, I really did take me a moment to realize, wait, no, there's Young Snips. I'm like, is this through the fog? And you're like, I'm not entirely sure. I had the same reaction.

Is she younger? Is that why it's like, Young? I think you realize, like, everything's smaller. Oh, that's the season three costume.

Like, oh, crap. And yes, Teth, at first I was like, is it Teth? Yeah, watching again today, I was like, okay, that first part seems like it's definitely Teth. The second part seems like it's definitely meant to be while off.

Like, we're still trying to go through some of the battles. But seeing her in the flesh more or less is unbelievable. We've been on this journey with her for 15 years and to see her in the flesh after 15 years is like, what the hell? This is crazy.

I know lots of people have grown up with her. I was a full grown adult when she premiered, but I was still like, anyway, still grew up with her as a person, as an adult. Like, this is crazy. The emotionalness, like, you could see, like, everyone just going to be like, a little gasps in the theater and like, hold a crap at her and say the lightsabers, her lightsabers for real is wonderful.

But her questioning, like, why are we here? And she even asks, like, what's the lesson? And Anakin says, again, live or die. And I think this really is an unlearned what you have learned a lesson because it is reinforcing.

He keeps telling her that you're going to have to fight in order to survive. And I think him reinforcing this lesson over and over is actually so she unlearns that lesson because I think by the end, she realizes, no, you've taught me to be a warrior to keep fighting. And that's not how you win. That's why the legend I lost.

Like, we fought when we should not have fought. And that's why we lost. The lesson, you know, he even says earlier in the episode, she's like, I will not fight you. And he's like, I've heard that before.

Luke said that straight down. It was a few years ago. So like, of course, he's like, he's heard it before. And that was kind of the lesson, like, that's kind of queuing the audience in.

Yes, because we've all heard that before. And I'm a sub-six. So what was the lesson that Luke actually learned? Oh, I can't fight you.

Like, really? I'm the thrower's leg to the side. And that's how I win. And that's how she wins in the end and we get to that.

But, you know, I do think the force is definitely taking her through an unlearned what you have learned to lesson. Yeah. OK. This is the Clone Wars.

Yeah, it's one of our submissions. Like, you just mentioned a little bit of surprising. Yeah, snips there. I love how much I hated that line, because it's like, just say no, by the way.

What was the question? When you saw a slogan in the fog. And then I wanted to give you a take on that scene, because most of the things I've seen have been very positive for this episode. And then a lot of people complaining about it was too murky, too foggy.

We really couldn't see. I'll complain. The fog of war. That's good.

That's the fog of war. I'll complain about it. Listen, I love those things. I thought they were good.

I do take issue with Philone's writing and directing here. I think he almost, almost, not completely, almost lost the message of the episode in recreating the Clone Wars. I mean, like, oh, this is cool. Remember?

I think he was. What was that? It's not the lesson. No, no, no, but look at it.

I had a good episode. Look at Young Snips. Like, oh, look at Rags. Like, I think the episode was a little bit too focused on that angle on how we're recreating this.

But I still like it got me. And I'm not like the biggest Clone Wars fan, because I got into the Clone Wars. Like, the sequel trilogy was already coming out. It was between Force Awakens and West Jedi.

So I don't have like a nostalgia connection to it. But it was still like very awesome to see Anakin as this Clone Wars self. And also seeing like Hayden Christensen channel what Matt Lantern did, because the Anakin and the Clone Wars is not the Anakin of the movies. He's in like a very different stage in his life, which I did love because I saw elements of both interpretations.

Whatever saying yes. The fog kind of rubbed me. It didn't rub me the wrong way, but like, I'm sure a lot of people watch the episode and didn't really think about it. All I could think about was like budget limitations.

Like, yeah, we can't recreate Mandalore. So we'll just like fuck this up. Fog, by the way, not the other word. We can't recreate Ryloth, so fog.

And the first couple of frames when it was used, it was very effective. Like seeing it, it showed like sometimes the Clone Wars are like, I think kind of ignored because it's like Clone versus Robots. But like, I think it did a good job setting us there. I mean, like, no, this was horrible.

And as it kept going on, I think it lost its impact. So but overall, I did like everything that was going on. Yeah, I understand why some people might say, and not Mike, because I read it from different reviewers and just people on the internet. That yes, it was a very good episode.

Philonie did a very good job writing, but he's still needs a little bit of work, because some of these shots might not be the most engaging. But at the same time, I don't care. I watched it three times. I had a lot of fun with it.

And I love all those flashbacks scenes. Even if it's all these play for out there covering everything, it didn't matter. To me, the conversation that they had kind of put that to the side, it didn't need to work too much about it. And to that point, go ahead.

So it definitely felt like he was moving the camera the way he would have if he were directing a Clone Wars episode. And so in that way, I felt comfortable and right. My mind when we're doing those flashbacks, because they were definitely pushed down, pulled push in shots that were definitely out of the Clone Wars establishing shots. And I was like, that's awesome.

The scene going to what Otty mentioned that Haylen pulled out Matt Lantern was in that first flashback when I saw because I was like, oh, this one is going to teach my padawan. I said, do you want to padawan? Teaching is not what it's meant to. It's not fun.

Oh, what are you doing? I'm joking. Really? Yes, I'm joking.

That felt like Clone Wars and I came and felt like something. Especially since he's the one season two. Yeah. And it's something that we do in real life.

When we're in that stressful situation, and you're with someone that's already stressed, you need to level things up, keep it lively. And I think that's what he was doing. And someone has done that a lot of times. I just coaching a bunch of 10 to 13 years old, so play basketball.

You got to calm them down when you're losing all the way one. But that's kind of what you make to do. You can't just go down to just, all right, we're screwed. No, you got to kick things up.

And I think that's what he was doing to help with this lesson. That it's war. But there's all these things I need to learn that will keep going. But then, back we go a few years into the future, I guess.

But still in the first place where I love Anakin coming in, I don't remember this battle. So that's a little bit older, and we know what's happening now. Anakin is about to turn into Darth Vader. Anakin is going to fight more in a couple of minutes.

There was another powerful scene, especially when they just go down to the conversation about what their legacy is going to be. Because Anakin is everything my master taught me, seeing me and everything that his master taught him was in him. And now I'm passing everything to you and you'll pass it on. I think that's the lesson for her.

It's like you said, when she starts saying, yeah, well, it's legacy. I mean, it's war, death, and war. She's like, you're more than that, because I'm more than that. And that's when she goes, oh, yeah, more powerful, more whatever.

And it's like, no, we're more than this war that's happening around. There's more in me that just Darth Vader, would that scene for you, work? As a part of that, I think it lends to the idea that this might not be the world between worlds, because the legacy of death and destruction is the line that they then says to her right before. You're throwing off the clip.

But the saying that you're more than that, because I'm more than that. And Anakin is more than that. Like I see he was a hero. And yes, there was 25 years of him being the worst human being possible.

But we are more than our lowest points. And then we are more than our best points. Like we are the sum total of all that. He's saying that within means everything I am, all the knowledge I possess, you are part of that legacy.

And she's get scared. But you are more powerful and dangerous than anyone realized. And this is the moment that I think everyone misses the reading of this line. Is that what this is about?

Because he kind of delivers it. Are we arguing about that? I've moved past that. You should move past that.

But part of it is there's a meptiveness of this, where like earlier he was like, she's like, when they're on the what I think is the task part. She's like, I don't understand. He goes, that's your problem. This is your training.

And this is again, the unlearned way you have learned a bit. He goes, is that what this is about? This whole experience that is experiencing isn't about Anakin or what Anakin's legacy is. It's about her own legacy.

So it's like, is that what this is about? It's not a lying read on like, or why are we arguing about this? It's like you're missing the point together about why we're here and experiencing these memories and having this conversation. It's not about me.

It's about you. And you're making it about me again. Like, this isn't about me. Like, is that what this is about?

No, this is about you. For your shit, because I've already done it with mine. It's still again. I think that line works both ways because that's a very Anakin thing to say.

Like, we're just going to focus on the 25 years of horror I brought. Oh, but I like that take but because it's like, we all thought that we had to see Ahsoka reckon with Darth Vader. And we really didn't because that's done and does that. Like Darth Vader's redemption is his own.

It shouldn't really affect anyone else. We know it does have ramifications. But that's like, not something Ahsoka should be like reckoning with, not even at this point. So I do like him being like, no, you still have things to learn.

Like your training is not done. This is not about this. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

There's like this. There is a bit of a meta commentary too about like the fact that that is how Baelyn handles her in a new story, right? Like you're still need to deal with the fact that you failed your master, which you kind of, you know, like leans into some of those doubts and fears that I think is so good at experiencing the fact that like I think a lot of the fandom and the audience still views her in those ways as well. And we're like, it's been 15 years since we introduced a so let's move on.

Yeah. Yeah. I saw it especially that that language was well in my favorite and the whole episode that I feel more than that because I'm more than that. That she's still like when she talks about having a pala when I know she didn't want to train Grogu.

She didn't want to train Sabine because she feels that everything that is and I can see her now, she just might teach everyone the same thing about death war and what if we go down the wrong path? And he's like, why are we still on this? And that's why I mentioned that clone trooper holding her hand. They're not showing you more than this war that's going around us.

We follow, we paint our helmets because we trust you with our lives, not because we want to go to war. It's because you're more than that. And that's my interpretation of what Ag is trying to get to us. Yeah.

I'm more than that. I know this war in all those 25 years was evilness that I went through and more and more than that, you're more than that. Forget about me, you gotta live your life. But unfortunately, we gotta go back and do the whole dark side cave.

If you kill me, then you'll become me. And that's when she kind of goes out to life. First with that little seat eyes, just for us to have that little bit of, is she going to turn with me or she won't? But great visuals at least when they went back into the world between world and have the little last kind of life certified.

The Rainbow Road. LAUGH What did you guys think of the title Shadow Warrior? I was still reckoning with that. OK.

I know it's funny because they used Shadow Warrior in the Clone Wars and it's not much to a Japanese movie that George Health produced and all that. But I thought it was interesting because my husband brought this up to me. And I hadn't heard of this, but I never really thought of it, never really looked into it. So I did a little bit of research this because Shadow Work, which is a Jungian therapy thing that people do where they kind of confront the parts of their childhood that they don't really normally pay attention to.

Exactly what it does in the episode. So I think she's doing Shadow Work in the episode of Shadow Warrior. Whether that was intentional or not, I think it was a really interesting thing. Those parts of herself, those childhood things that she had, I doubt she's done any therapy.

It lived 25 or 30 years. This is Star Wars. There's no body for therapy. We know that.

No, no, we don't have to fight. Considering she walked away on Sabine, I don't think so. So she hasn't confronted these things. And here's that moment where she gets to do the Shadow Work for real and walk out of it like a soak of the white.

She does the work and she confronts her doubts and her fears. And Shadow Work isn't necessarily about healing those moments so much as it is about acknowledging them and understanding that they have an impact on you. You may not be able to heal it, but you can acknowledge it. Look at it and I am building it.

Exactly what Yoda does in the season six of the Commonwealth is so destiny. He literally fights the Shadow Self. It's hubris, which we all can say. He literally has hubris and pride.

That's part of the reason that I fall. Yoda has to fight it in order to learn how to become one with the cosmic force. Now she's now a soak is being able to do the same things in this world between worlds with Anakin. I definitely think that she'll continue to be above.

She'll definitely be one of those people that becomes one of the cosmic force who will retain her consciousness after dinner. There's no way that that won't happen. How long it will be until she dies is another story. I wish that was something tall.

She'll probably be there. When it comes to a soak, I just hope her death is similar to those where she's her choice to go. By the way, Dale says that she spoke with a vendor. She spoke with Yoda.

That's therapy. Although Yoda, I know he wasn't that safe, but let's remember that he was telling Anakin, like, no, don't give her mother. Rejoice! Rejoice!

She's dead now. I think Yoda needs therapy also. He's not the best one to be prepared. He's the best one to be prepared.

Why do some people say anything before we move on? They also say you can't save your master. I can't save mine, but Anakin teaches her she can save herself in this. I want to go back to that.

Let's see. Okay, so I was saying that she already dealt with it in the downfall in Rebels. She's got that wasn't rehash. Tony's saying who Yoda would be such.

I feel he's terrible at therapy. Oh, you're right, you're right. You're right, okay. You are a terrible person.

I told you not to separate. You guys, when I said that. Going to Dale's con, by the way, I do like the Anakin teaches her that she can save herself in this. I kind of love that thing that she might be afraid that she's condemned to follow Anakin's bet.

That's a very real real thing. I think we idolize our teachers. As we grow older, these were very flawed individuals. They weren't necessarily perfect as we kind of thought.

I think even her thinking he was raised as a keeper of the peace and he fell to the dark side. I was raised as a warrior. What's stopping me from falling? She's not what she says.

It's pretty much all I was trying to be was a warrior. Of course I'm going to fall. Just like Luke, I kind of feel like it's always this reiterating something I've always said. Star Wars deals a lot with destiny, but it all boils down to choices.

If you fall to the dark side, that's your choice. If a Sokka falls to the dark side, it's not because Anakin did so. She had to fall on that path. Striking down Anakin falling to the dark side is a choice.

It's completely hurt to have to make that leap and choose not to do that. I do like that the episode goes back to philosophy of Star Wars. Throwing away the legs because that's the right choice. I kind of hate like Star Wars keeps going back to that because it keeps making that moment bigger in my heart.

That for me is the ultimate Star Wars moment. It throws the saber. The sweating choice I want to do. The green was into the world.

Nookie for those three lights sabers. I just held down there. I'm falling on the ocean! Well, even though Anakin like disarms her, I love that.

Whenever Sokka goes against a person with a red blade and she doesn't have a lightsaber, she still takes it. And turns off the saber. It's not a good moment when Sokka is looking for a lightsaber. Yeah, that's a very good moment.

So while all this is going on, we have Hera's there that seemed that you mentioned last week. She's walking through the morning with her gun. Point of a wiiing. Yeah, we are not saying a word.

Well, to start, she just landed. He just hiding behind the column. He was sad, man. He was sad, man.

He was sad. He was very sad. That was really hard. One thing that didn't break my heart and I was a moment was false ray from Rebels.

You could replace Jason for Ezra. It's when Sabine, Hera here is who young and Jason just goes and hides behind Chopper. And he fits perfectly. And then then he will head.

You could see Ezra doing that in Season 2 of Rebels or something. It worked great. I loved that little scene. All day we said, long time ago, where I don't think Jason's going to have a lot to do with this.

Seriously, just there to be there. It was very important. I loved it. With my words also with Jason.

So both for you, that scene of Jason showing his abilities, like who Jan said, just listening to the waves, listening to lightsaber and then bringing Hera into it. Probably, by the way. So being here, I'll talk to you later. I am loving the expansion of the Force and how even just kind of everyday people can sometimes commune with it.

I mean, that'd be strong. She may not have actually heard the like, the waves that Jason did, but Hera taking that moment to like, stand there with her son and try to connect with the Force meant everything to me because like whether or not she felt it in the way that the Jedi or Jason feels it, she still takes the time to connect. And I think that is such a good message to see like these people that we love and respect as characters take that moment whether or not they're strong in the Force or not unless it's a lesson with Sabine, right? And just take that time to try to connect with it anyway and trusting that like, hey, the Force is communicating with somebody that just happens to be Jason in this moment.

And it is clearly trying to communicate to us how we can help save our friend and then going and doing that, whether it, you know, eats up their fuel reserves or not. Like they were still going out to try and search for their friend because there's still that chance. There's still that hope that a Soka is alive or one of them is alive. They don't know not entirely sure in that moment, but in that moment, it's a Soka.

And I love that. Like, just seeing her stand there and meditate with Jason for a moment was wonderful. Yeah, I was getting annoyed. Carsten, it's like, Carsten, take my whole other listen to lightsabers.

Shut up. I don't care if they were not a few more. We got to find a way to stall them. I don't care if you can't hear things happening in the notes I mentioned.

Organa is going to, not a voice theme is playing. So I need to listen to that Carsten. I think you enjoyed this. I love that name.

She makes that one like final cover for you guys. Like, that makes sense. I love it. Like she still do it.