EPISODE · Sep 11, 2024 · 56 MIN
S9 E1, King Manasseh vs. the Prophet Isaiah: A Debate on Idolatry, pt. 1: Manasseh's Case
from The Great Sources with Rabbi Shnayor Burton · host Rabbi Shnayor Burton
Highlights: 0:00 The position of our Rebbe, the wicked King Manasseh, that idolatry is appropriate 5:00 Manasseh's case against the Isaiah in which he charged the prophet with heresy and executed him for that crime 8:45 Can Hashem be seen or not? Moshe's stance and the prophets' stance 12:00 Can Hashem be known or not? Moshe's stance and the prophets' stance 20:30 Moshe uses words differently than all the prophets do, and is therefore termed "not a man of words" 24:15 The contradiction between the Torah and the Prophets regarding the importance of sacrificial worship (https://open.substack.com/pub/shnayor/p/ee-and-r-3_4-between-the-torah-and?r=111271&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web) 29:45 The prophets do something fundamentally different from Moshe and the Torah 34:30 Moshe's request to see God indicates that Moshe is supposed to see God 36:30 The last of the books of the Torah implies that Hashem can be known 38:15 Idolatry is wrong only for those who are familiar with Hashem and know Him 43:00 Manasseh's argument why idolatry is appropriate according to the Torah itself 46:00 Manasseh considered the Torah to be aspirational until such time that its great potential is unlocked 48:00 Manasseh considered avoiding idolatry to be akin to rushing the end of times before we're ready for it 51:15 The unrequited overture to the Nation of Israel at the time of the Exodus offering them knowledge of Hashem 54:30 The Torah has always been aspirational
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Highlights: 0:00 The position of our Rebbe, the wicked King Manasseh, that idolatry is appropriate 5:00 Manasseh's case against the Isaiah in which he charged the prophet with heresy and executed him for that crime 8:45 Can Hashem be seen or not? Moshe's stance and the prophets' stance 12:00 Can Hashem be known or not? Moshe's stance and the prophets' stance 20:30 Moshe uses words differently than all the prophets do, and is therefore termed "not a man of words" 24:15 The contradiction between the Torah and the Prophets regarding the importance of sacrificial worship (https://open.substack.com/pub/shnayor/p/ee-and-r-3_4-between-the-torah-and?r=111271&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web) 29:45 The prophets do something fundamentally different from Moshe and the Torah 34:30 Moshe's request to see God indicates that Moshe is supposed to see God 36:30 The last of the books of the Torah implies that Hashem can be known 38:15 Idolatry is wrong only for those who are familiar with Hashem and know Him 43:00 Manasseh's argument why idolatry is appropriate according to the Torah itself 46:00 Manasseh considered the Torah to be aspirational until such time that its great potential is unlocked 48:00 Manasseh considered avoiding idolatry to be akin to rushing the end of times before we're ready for it 51:15 The unrequited overture to the Nation of Israel at the time of the Exodus offering them knowledge of Hashem 54:30 The Torah has always been aspirational
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