The bellings of Ilkong House And from the end of this week And welcome to another episode of Red everybody The next Star Wars podcast I'm your host I've been talking about the long end thank you for joining us I'm another Star Wars Saturday as well here I'll be Star Wars maybe I don't know I'll be something else Oh we always find a couple of minutes at least of course I'll be even if there's no actual news or figure something out There's always some to Star Wars But thank you again for joining us as you can see just me today My friend, I go host all these out doing real-life stuff out there That's fine, we'll be back next week I'll be continuing our journey into this galaxy far far away But everyone that's out there that's joining us tonight Thank you for being here It's your first time joining us Thank you, we love your support Make sure that you subscribe to our channel so you don't miss any episode where they drop Like this video, hit that thumbs up so we can get more exposure on the other for everyone Leave us a comment down below if you're watching this later on the replay Any thoughts about what we are talking about today? Anything you want to talk about this galaxy on this channel just let us know down below We certainly to read those Reach out Thanks for a friend, Brennan who's out there Thank you Brennan, hello there, the rings of power is awesome We'll definitely talk about episode 4 today And our friend Dale from Skywalkers Excuse me, Skywalkers, I got a name, hello there, hello there, Dale, general Dale How are you doing today, thanks for being here As always, I love the support from you guys Even when there's no news, you guys are here So I love being able to spend a little minute with you And if you're listening of course to the other podcast, thank you And leave us a rating, review of 5 stars, 4 stars, 5 stars are better Some comments, we love seeing those from day coming also So yeah, it's been an easy week, slow week, start worst news related, I got one One thing to mention real quick and then we'll jump into our main topic I watched the title of this episode and the song that you know most of it is going to be here About the reach of power, but Dale is saying, I'm here just for a song, that's fine I'm getting too sick, I'm not ready, let's talk Star Wars and Star Wars news Star Wars news Alright, so like Dale was saying, one piece of news, I saw COS is on 2 And recently during the During our Dragon Campaign on Attachia, Leo Bordezo plays have been running, that's a live fashion series reveal That's season 2 of a song that will not start shooting till the Mandalorian and Grogo stops filming And that shooting for a Soka Film in for a Soka won't start till summer of 2025 So next year, we're basically a year away from a Soka film, which most likely then puts a Soka season 2 all the way to 2026 That's going to be 3 years from when season 1 of a Soka dropped, which was summer of 2023 August I believe August 2023, I don't know, in 2026, exactly when season 2 might drop But still a 3 year gap, there's been a lot of chatter online this past couple of weeks About how long is that season wait, or the wait between season in a lot of the new streaming shows And it came out 2022, and now it's coming out early 2025 2025, I don't know if it's early, I think it's going to be early, but still it's almost 2 1 1 2 3 year wait Mando, Mandalorian I think it was about a 2 year gap also, rings of power, has all the drama, all these shows have been a 2 year wait Now a Soka is pushing that to 3 years, will this be most likely after, I don't know, it will be before after The Mandalorian and Grogum movie, which comes out, supposedly, comes out May of 2026 So it makes sense that the Nsoka will drop season 2 around the summer or fall of 2026 to follow that whatever threats are left from the movie, so we have 3 year gap Is it too much? I understand, and we'll talk about why I think this is happening I think 3 years is a long wait, but since Asoka is this man-dover, we are calling it this vylony and fabromandover If you have the Mandalorian and Grogum movie in between, then it makes sense You still went in 3 years, but there's something in the middle that connects to what's coming next At the same time, it's still going to be 3 years from when Asoka came out, when this Nsoka movie comes out and then Asoka comes out So it's still a 3 year gap, no matter if you put a show in between, that might connect some of the dots So I agree 100% with the people out there that say this is a long wait, especially I can deal with 2 years now, unfortunately, so that 2 year wait, I think the way that television works now, especially since it shows what happens I understand that it shows only murders in the building, which is 6 on 4, and it's been going for 3 years So during 4, 6 and 3 years, it's a different type of show than all these other sci-fi and fan-tish shows I've been doing So for me, the reason I think, one of them is pretty obvious, the way it's trending has been handled, the way it's trending has been going this past few years Television now used to be, let me start it, so movies like in 80s, 90s, early 2000s, either you're a movie actor or a TV actor And then if you were a TV actor that broke into the movie business, then you were set, right? It was that distinction that movies was this kind of higher plane of art, I guess, above television That doesn't exist anymore, for some people, I think sometimes for myself, TV now is even better than the movies because you can, with the budget started out there right now, the type of talent that they're getting You can do these long shows, and I think a lot of these started with Game of Thrones and the Walking Dead, things that we mentioned last week here talking about how streaming has changed The type of shows we're getting now, you need that, unfortunately you need that two-year gap to be able to have that effect and that impact, you can't rush those Game of Thrones, House of the Dragons, Ringsoap Power Unfortunately, you can't do that 22 episodes that people want, and then follow the next year with 22 episodes with the quality of TV that we get, in terms of visuals I know we're right in and acting, that's going to be different, and it's kind of how we vibe with those shows and what kind of brings you into it But I don't think we're going back to that, at least on streaming, I know with local TV and cable, we're still getting those type of shows, and that's great But right now, the way TV has kind of broken, or kind of just gone off its own trail, how popular it's been, when TV actors break, then you have this two-year gap, then it gives them time to go to movies, go to another show and income, but look at Better Pascal, right, it's a perfect example Game of Thrones, put it on the map, you did a couple of movies here and there, but it was even the lore and the Jaws, you know, exploded his fame He was there under the armor for a lot of it in season one, a little bit less in season three, season two, so then by season three we know that he wasn't there too much, mostly doing voice acting But all this led him to be able to do the last of us, to be able to read on a different-classy-phone movie, he's in a gladiator movie So this has given him that exposure and all those opportunities that if Mandalorian came out every year and it was 15-18 episodes seasons, he wouldn't get that chance, so as an actor I understand you want to be able to do all these things The other side you say, you can always say, the Mandalorian was 22 episodes and year after year, he didn't, wouldn't need to go and find all these other roles because it will be set for years or years on So yeah, you can go both ways, but the way that streaming and a lot of these science fiction shows are right now, you need that two-year in between Hopefully a little bit less, like I shouldn't have, because of all these special effects, all these things that need to be built, all the places they need to travel, so it's a It takes some time, it's basically like filming a movie, and I know a lot of people, TV shows have become this six-hour eight-hour movies and then it does have the same impact as regular television in where each episode is almost in the episodic and then connects to a lawyer, but that's a separate one Three-year wait for us, okay, I do think it's a lot, I don't think that the want for this show will lower even if it's a three-year gap, so it gets actually popular character, we know, and again, will most likely be back as a force goes There's a lot of unanswered questions with that show, it's gonna connect to the Mandalorian Grogumov, especially after the movie comes out, a couple of months later, so it drops The want for that show, I'm forgetting the easier word, it's gonna grow, and it's gonna hit just if it came out this year or next year I wish it wasn't a three-year gap, we talked about it last week, Star Wars television is slowly gonna slow down a little bit after Andros is on two, there's nothing else to nasaoka So maybe Andros is on two and then we'll get a, the V-SOS is on three or another live action in between, and then we'll get a Soka in 2026, and nothing else in between We'll see, and I need to turn my first drink of water Alright, so they're all the same, yeah, they'll, right here, okay right there, hold me to a Star Wars idea, I'll take that go with the bed And then movies every three years with live action animation between, it's for addict and unreliable, people will get used to it Yeah, I mean, we'll get used to it, everyone's used to love the way we're getting stuff, now especially things are getting cancelled pretty quickly, I'm not just talking about the act, I'm just in general Then people think that why is this happening, just let's show us a little bit, give me something else, or extend me longer seats, and all that stuff, so understand, at the same time If I'm getting, if I get a Star Wars movie in 2026, one or two shows in 2025 will be the same thing year after year, I can live with it So probably now we get, no, I ain't her father's shot from the fandom, but they got pretty close with the Grogo reveal, yeah, they're the Grogo reveal, especially being episode one, can I just, broke everyone's right, well then you're Yoda, and Yoda was there, but in episode one, she didn't do that much So that Yoda, maybe Yoda reveal was a great one, and there was finishing up with saying Star Wars just seems getting better and better, from his perspective, the more we get, I always used to say Star Wars was the only movie that got better with the second movie, the third and the third and the third and so forth, I agree, I mean, I'm upset here, Star Wars is gonna out, leave us, it's gonna keep going for the years from now, no more How much we complain on the internal whatever, there's always gonna be stories, even if it just books and then 10 years we'll get another movie or some Star Wars is there, even the movies are out now, the generation, all the themes are never gonna be dated, and that's what happened with a lot of movies, they'll just become dated with references and jokes and whatever, Star Wars is never gonna be dated, you can always pass that on to the next generation, and with all these shows, remember the lore and all those, don't keep going Alright, Dale, that was it, that's the only Star Wars news we have today, so Dale, if you need to leave, I understand, you're here for us, okay, that's our talk for the day, not really any other Star Wars news, like I mentioned, that Brother Pascal is not really under the armor, that much, it was an interview that he said that for Mando season 3 and also for the movie, he doesn't have the time to get into it and just doing all the action scenes that just is about it couldn't be in it, and that's why we have somebody who's brand new and a little bit of Crowder, all those great stunt guys out there, stunt actors, bring your life in Jarn, so as it's kind of expected, it's fine, Star Wars we know with Darth Vader, Boba Feds, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and there was a lot of those,oooo the boys and that, the person we had he always, and I know with more and some more, he's now, I mean, re-prised the role of Boba Feds a couple of times, it's a little bit different, but Darth Vader, it's James O Depot John Wright, yeah, they, yeah the Me Proutis there, I forget all the guy that played him in Night Alright, I'm so tired.
Now it's been a long day, thanks Dale. That's all you're not just kidding. Alright, we'll keep you there. You're one of the good ones.
I'm tired. I woke up early today. My daughter had a cross-country meet. I got seven, we had to be there before seven, so woke up at five, was almost an hour drive.
So, took a very quick nap earlier today, but that was it. Alright, so now we jump to that part of the show, where we talk about something else, not Star Wars in a world between Fandoms. Oof, do do do do. So the world between Fandoms and today is about the rings of power season two, episode four, Eldess, with our friend.
Some bomb, but Dale is back. But yeah, the one thing I don't like, it's been two weeks since rings of power came back, and we're already almost halfway done with it. I believe it's ten episodes, next week is gonna be episode five, and we'll officially be halfway done with the season. I don't like this three episodes drop to start the season when the shows are eight to ten episodes long, and of course, that season very quickly.
With that said, I'm really enjoying it. Same thing that I said last week, the first viewing of this episode was like, okay, it's good, I don't know, the pacing or some of the scenes didn't mesh well. When I watched it a second time, it's a total different experience. I need to get all my expectations down a little bit when I watch it first time.
But another great episode, I don't think so, a little bit apprehensive, a little bit scared, especially when we're coming from the acolyte cancellation. A little bit less than I went online, so a couple of things I think, put me on the right track. But when this show was announced, or the show runners said there's gonna be a five season show, ten episodes, that's what Amazon bought, 50 hours of television, so that's what they have, a five season story. We mentioned last week that it seemed that this season speaking very quickly and going very fast, like they're already making the dwarven rings, Tom Boma already showed up now, where he started with somebody later on in the season.
So the recent scene was a little bit apprehensive, are they getting through a lot this season, and then when season three official announced that they say that's the final season. And they have to jam the last two seasons into three. I hope that's not the case. I know these stories extremely expensive, a lot of the sudden they need to come in those five seasons.
So maybe it's not really going that fast, it just seems like it. So that's my only kind of apprehension at the moment, but we'll go away, I kind of read a few things, definitely on the right track, but Elders, that's not about episode four. The first thing I'll say, I love the way that they're using the map. Season one, we saw the map, and we're going to different locations, so giving us the name of the places, doing something very similar this season.
But in this episode, I love how they used to map to show people moving through it. So firstly, Elves, when Galadio, Elran, his company are going to Reggion, and they come up to that broken bridge, and we see that in the map. And then later at the end of the episode, it's where they also kind of going through the forest that was destroyed, where the end-wise and the end show up, we cannot allude, and we see it, it shows that the oil is going through that path, or that trail. So I love the way that they're using the map as this interactive tool inside the season.
I love it, love it, love it. Well, let's start with the stranger and Tom Bombadio. I'm saying that sometimes I'm calling the stranger, sometimes I'll call him Gandalf, Gandalf even though it's not official. We mentioned last time that staff or one is called a Gand, and then there was something a little hint.
Also, in this episode, there's tours, we'll talk in a minute. But I could watch 40 minutes, a whole episode, I'll just be stranger and Tom Bombadio talking about nature, and just walking around his farm. Like Tom Bombadio, which is this mysterious magical character from a lot of the rims, or from Tolkien and kind of vast books. We really don't know too much about him or anything.
Is he one of the blue wizards? Does he have anything to do with what's going on? Who's him? We still don't know, we just know that he's, like he says, I'm your young, I'm old, I'm the eldest.
I was here before these stars where I think of older than the stars and the trees and the river. Then I was on these stars, I think he called them with strangers, I think he also said stars came out. So I was here when I was total darkness. So it's been there since the creation, basically, of this world of middle earth and everything.
So I love getting more with him. I also love that the stranger Gandalf, whatever you want to call him, even though he was able to tap into his powers at the end of season one. We can see he and season two that is still struggling with it, how to control it. I still needs this guidance.
And we look from Tom Bombadio. It's like it's all we want to look, even like Yoda, to look in Empire Strikes Back, right? By the end of a new hope, Luke is able to tap a little bit into the force where he really doesn't know how to control it, how to use it, that's what Yoda comes in. So that's how I see the stranger right now.
At the end of season one, he was able to tap into his wizard powers, his star powers, which still doesn't know how to control them. And then he goes into his Yoda, which will be Tom Bombadio to help him get a wand, if he can, although that's already, he should have asked, ask that tree before you rip out his arms. Ask that tree for a branch, I'll give it to you. But that Tom Bombadio will be his guide to how to use that power.
And then for the war to come. If you know me, if you've been watching or listening to this show, every time I talk about Star Wars novels, or Star Wars books, you know I love my quotes. This episode was filled with quotes and this scene between Tom Bombadio and the stranger was very, I love when he said, he's the stranger is talking about following the stars, trying to find the stories about your house. And he goes, there is what you were searching for, and there is what you'll find.
Such a great line that we have this patting line that we think is where we should go. But it's what we'll find on that path that really is gonna define who we are. So that's what, yeah, we're looking for the stars, for the wand under the starboard staff, under the stars, no, you were looking for me, because I didn't want this gonna help you. And then when he's talking about, I'm trying to find my staff, I thought I was gonna be here, and then Tom goes like, a wizard staff is like a name, it's yours to wield already.
Like you can't give a wizard his name, you can't give a person his name, they already have it, once they're here, they'll know what it is. And it's basically the same with your staff. Your staff is already here, or your staff has been decided, you just are not ready for it yet. It's yours to wield already, you just need to know when they're ready to wield it.
Ah, sorry, man, I don't breath. So during all this talk, Gandalf or this stranger says to him, to train him, showing him how to control his power, because Tom Ballet can control fire wind, fire wind and water, something that's like, doesn't matter. And he's like, ah, you're not the first each star to come here asking for me to train him. There's someone else, a dog wizard out there.
And we know the dog wizard is in ruin. Are they alluding that this is Saruman, that beard is very Saruman like, it does look like Saruman. I've been very open to say, I don't care too much about the canon connecting in terms of timelines here in the Rinsso Power, which was the Lord of the Rings says that, it's a Marida, and all that, it doesn't matter to me. I know people say that a stranger cannot be Gandalf, because at this point, Gandalf is still like a thousand years we're coming down to middle earth.
That doesn't matter. This is an adaptation, and the patients are not at one to one retailing of that source material. But I would say at this point, Saruman is not a dog wizard, it's not evil, right? That happens later after being corrupted by Sauron.
So I really hope that it's not Saruman, because I don't want like, yeah, he's evil 3000 years before the events of the Lord of the Rings. I don't want that. If it happens, I'm not gonna hate it. It all depends how it's kind of brought up, I was shown.
So again, I don't think 100% is gonna be Saruman. I think it's too much of a, yeah, everyone that you love from Lord of the Rings is here. I think just kind of, yeah, he looks like him. Some people might think it's Saruman, but it's not gonna be someone else.
And that's where I don't know. In terms of each stars and wizards coming to middle earth, they're supposed to be five. Saruman was the most powerful, I think is the first one to come. Gandalf, the two blue wizards that we don't know who the hell they are, and then Radik as the brown.
Is Tom Bonbado one of the blue wizards? He does have a blue coat that we haven't seen yet. So maybe they're explains as a blue wizard, then Saruman or the stranger is the other blue wizard, maybe. We'll see, hopefully they'll do it justice.
I love how Bonbado talks to a little goat, to the ship. Oh yeah, sorry, that was very, oh, there's what you were searching for, and you'll find it's when this train is, oh, Bonbado goes, oh, you found the goat, or you found the ship, that's not what I was looking for. Oh, that's what you were looking for and what you'll find. That's, I love that.
He's talking to Goldberry. I don't know if you listen to the, I don't know who, don't remember who Goldberry is. This isn't the boat, just let me know, I'll correct myself. In the soundtrack, we have the river daughters.
Maybe he's talking to the one of the river daughters, and that's Goldberry, so I just like that. The Thumbamados just is, talking things song, riddles, kind of poetry, like, I thought he was gonna be there for one episode, I think he's gonna be there for, obviously, a couple more, so I'm really interested to see where that relationship goes and where that story goes. And of course, when he's talking about this dog wizard, he's strong, but he needs someone stronger to lead him to the destruction that he wants, and that's Sauron, and that's when we see him from the trailers when the stranger said, is he my task to face the darkness, is he my task to face Sauron, and then Thumb goes, you can face both. So I don't think that the stranger by himself can face both Sauron and the dog wizard.
I don't see the stranger and Sauron really interacting at least this season, we'll see where that goes. But really love the introduction of Thumbamados, I love the role that he played, and I'm really excited for what he's gonna bring next. So yeah, great job with Thumbamados, and I love his song, I love that song at the end, I listen to it every time I listen to his song, so yeah, give me more Thumbamados. All right, so we also got one of our own dears, my guy, Puerto Rican elf, keep going, it's my rickro's godova, Isildor and Estrid, don't I join in our Theo, all these favorite Theo, there's a Theo theory that we'll talk in about a minute, I saw this a couple of days ago, and it blew my mind, I think, I'm gonna agree with it.
So there's three of them are searching for Theo, Theo got taken by something, we kind of thought it was the ends the way the camera panned up when he was taken. Well, they go searching for him, and this is when I kind of find out that Estrid was part of the welcoming, she was being with them, gives her a chance to kind of come clean, was asking about us, she can give us all of that, she slept too close to the fire, Isildor feels betrayed, they had this thing going on, the shipping had, the shipping discourse was there, and it's still there, there's gonna be lovers to enemies to lovers again, L-E-T-L, all that stuff. But anyway, the Theo thing goes searching for Theo because they're using Estrid to find what all their wellmen are, and there's a cool scene in this multi-place, this Bob Serpent comes out, I don't know, where I love that creature design, she's kind of falling to this quick sand, when she puts the stick in the mojaga, she's gonna pull them out with noiselessness, giant serpent that had swallowed both around there, and it's Yildor, then of course, I just want to cut it from the inside and get out, there's a lot of strange creatures in this world without names, this one will call supper, so I love that little joke there. But it all goes to the end, and the end-wise, where the history, so they find the end, or they find something around there, it's finding these petals, there's pink petals, how was her name, I almost wrote it down, doesn't matter, all these pink petals, I don't think it was a human or a person that took Theo, and then it comes out after the, the rest are safe then, is Theo still gives her no chance, takes off her chains, and this one, the ends come out, they see the swords, they see the bow and arrow, they say, oh, they're back, they're gonna hurt the trees, we know the ends are not too fond of, and we have this great reveal, this end-wise, if you've read Lord Ring, so anything else, the end-wives are, even though the ends are, the shepherd, the forest, the end-wives are there for the other creatures, same as with Manway, who created the dwarves, then his wife, it's not Elo Vathars, the god, I found the name of the valor that created the ends and the end-wives, so then, help the little creatures protect the woods, protect the trees from the dwarves' eggs, so we have this great end-wife and his end-husband, Elsay, basically, you're just the same, you're here to hunt us down, you always just kill the whole forest, we didn't have time to come here and say them, we were too late, and she shows all these scars that she has, so the water bark has been broken apart by accident, she sees the sword or she or him, and he's like, no, this is not for cutting, whoa, this is for cutting orcs, but I'm sorry for everything that happens, I promise we'll do better, I promise that I'll keep, this would save, and that's, for giveness takes an age, and for the ends that we know they leave so long, hundreds, thousands of years, they take the time and for giveness takes an age where I love that scene, because I run there, we know from season one, it's connection to nature, to the trees, so when she asks if you ever would to ask to water or something like that, she said, didn't I, yeah, it wasn't my choice, but I had to do it, to that scene in season one, when he's chained up, the whole elf group is chained up by the orcs, and they have to knock this tree to go around it, he's the one has to do it, and he speaking to the trees, asking for giveness for what he has to do, same thing here, so it's this character that has that connection to nature, into the trees, having to then make this promise, to the ends, so I've got that scene, and we're just running that branch over his hand, giving him the little petal, like a flower, so I love that connection scene and just walk away, and then of course, if you go down San Diego now and think I will go to the rings, I'm gonna fall over the ends, I'll be in the wars, like maybe this is where he started there and helping the humans and the elves, and then something that I was a little bit down last week, like I've lovely got resolved already, it was this Theo and around the relationship, that by the end of season one, they were finally mentioned, either were connected, they were together, Theo finally was able to accept around there as this partner to his mom, and then here, Fortress is, Browin died, then Theo kind of regrets a little bit in his acceptance of around there, I love that that change, I'll thank you for coming back for me, and I made a promise, I keep my promises, now I have no promise to keep, or you can come with me, I'm gonna go hunt orcs, hopefully firing Adar and the other, and deal with that, you can come with me and help me, and I feel like I made promises on my own, I'm not sure what those promises are, but then around the kind of nights, the Lord of Pelargir, yeah, Lord of Pelargir, and this is when that theory comes up, now that he's a Lord of Pelargir, maybe he becomes King then, some the King of the Southlands, or I'm not exactly sure they are right now, but what if Theo becomes being the, see the Night King of Angmar, right, what if he becomes one of them with nine rings, what if Theo is one of the Nazgul, and I think that works, it all depends how long this series goes, maybe that's seen with the, the, the, the, the humans, the men getting the Nine Rings, it's six on five, 50 years from now, wherever they wanna do it, and Theo's one of them, and this is the beginning, he becomes a Lord of Pelargir, then he goes to be, a King or something, and then he gets, guess one of the rings, maybe Sauron said, maybe we'll just, you can bring your mom back, we'll see, I'm falling in line with that theory, I think Theo is gonna be one of those nine, wearing the rings at some point, but yeah, I love getting more around there, can't wait to get more with him later on, and see where this Isildur and Estrid story goes, we saw they were very close, they got close again, but then Estrid's husband showed up, we believe in this husband, she says she was looking for, he heard me throw this person showed up, hasn't been confirmed, maybe that's a brother, we'll find, but it's shown that yeah, that's her husband, to see where this relationship goes between Isildur and Estrid.
We didn't get anything with Numenor, this week, nothing with the dwarves, probably next week, we'll get a lot with that, everything that's going down in Numenor, she's gonna be fun to see where that goes. But then Elron and Galadio, I said last week, Galadio and Elron relationships my favorite thing so far, this series along with, was going along with the stranger, we got along with the stranger Tom Bombadio, we got along with Elron and Galadio, and to me this is friendship goals, like those two man, this is what friendships should be about, this is where you and your friends should be, it's just been completely honest, 100%, no barriers, no walls between them, you can say that they were arguing, they're fighting, you're at the beginning, like Elron is pushing back on all her plans, Galadio is testing, kind of talking back on it from the company, but they have that openness that I love so much, that even when they are hating and clashing heads with each other, they understand they wanna be, and they do whatever they can to help them keep and save. When she's like, no, we can't go this way, this feels the ring, she knows that there's something wrong, she knows that this is, someone made this, he wants us to go the short route, we really can go and Elron is like, we're not gonna take counsel from that shrink it, whatever that ring is telling you, we're not gonna do that, we're gonna do the opposite. And Galadio's like, dude, if you just listen to me, they're like, I'm done, I'm done with that ring.
Talking about quotes, this conversation was great, which puts both points of view, again, head to head, where do you fall, I still fall in the Elron side, because I know what's going to happen by the end. But Galadio has a great point, and in this conversation, he starts by saying, it's no point where the cost of victory becomes too great, she replies, I have yet to reach that point. And Elron goes, how does that not terrify you, that you haven't reached that point that the cost of victory is too great, like that should be high up, just you can win, but there's a way to win the suffering and the losses behind it becomes important. But she says, because he thought of a world rule by Sauron terrifies me more.
Again, where do you fall? Is the cost to victory or is a rule by Sauron eclipses all the special casualties on the wind, Sauron the good side, just to keep him away. So again, it's two great battling points, and I love the way both of them. How they go back and forth, she has more visions through the range, she sees Elron suffering, that's one of the other little dreams of her and I'm gonna say, how Elron had this one kind of coming face to face again.
And that's where she goes, there will be more painful sacrifices. So there's people going to die, hopefully not, but probably. Then they go, they fight the barowites, we get them pretty early on, great seeing, we learn that the barowites can only be killed by the oyster by the weapons that were buried with them. So that's a pretty cool scene.
I can tell them they want to favor that out and save in Galadriel. So I really like that. Extremely creepy design, I love almost like, part of the pirates of the Caribbean, but I love the way that they worked. We find out that the ring has healing weapons, Galadriel was able to heal one of the other elves that got shot by all arrow.
And then when they see how the orcs are going to enregion, like, oh, we're looking for Sauron, we found other. And this episode, a lot of this episode was, you're searching for something, or you find something else, like we mentioned what, Tom Bombadio said, said, there is what you're searching for and there's what you'll find. Same thing happened now with Elrond Galadriel. And the elves that were looking for Sauron, they came through other and his orcs going to rejean, are the waking together, are they fighting?
That's what they're trying to find out. We need to tell Gil Galadriel. So Galadriel stays, she tells Elrond, take the ring, promise me that, promise me that opposing Sauron comes before all elves, including my life. And he goes, no promises as born out of that ring, but I'll swear to you, that defeating Sauron will come first, even before you.
Again, because I know Sauron, I'm not doing anything, but if you're asking me, I'll do it. I hate that ring, I hate what the ring is doing to you, or if you're asking me to do something for you, of course I'll do it. It's gonna be, we know that both of them survive, but they're gonna suffer through this. It's gonna be heartbreaking and exciting, I guess, at the same point, seeing where that comes.
And then when they leave and she stays behind, they're like, oh, she did it to save us. Or she second fights herself to save our life now. She didn't do it to save us, she did it to save the ring. Ring, okay.
Although there's nothing as exciting and awe-inspiring and just like looking at the sun for the first time, assuming Galadriel going to battle, charging to battle, sword in hand, throwing daggers, grabbing us on a bow and arrow, using it to grab a flame from a torch, shooting it straight to two ores, killing them, jumping to the hoist, since the best out there. I love every action since I was at. So I go back to the shadows, and then the shadow came to her with Adar, putting out that flame from that arrow. And oh, look, look, it's here.
Thanks for joining us. Like the star, Shana, Nas. So I think now even though I got one more thing to talk about, about the show, I think now it's gonna be come. I've been a little bit, oh, it's gone fast, so I tend to connect too many things.
I think a lot of the pieces are set. I will see next week also probably do the same thing for the dwarves and for Nueinar, but a lot of the pieces are set. The strangers with Tom Bomba, they all go learn that we saw it waste instead of the Jedi that waste, who learned that hopefully now. Sauron is with Kalebriim, but which I can't get anything with them this episode.
But now Galadriel, it's with Adar, we'll see how that goes, how he tries to bring her into the fall to stop Sauron. And now then we go to Nori, Poppy, and this tours, the store showed up. Nobody, they're coming home, Molly, Mary Mac, that store. So these tours are these offshoots, I should say the high-foots are offshoots of the stores.
The stores live from this village, build under the rocks or inside the rocks in holes, a gun double is their leader. And it was a great way to learn more about more history about the hard-foots and where they came from and where they're going. At least anytime heartbreaking to find out that they really don't have a home. Yeah, we knew in season one that they were wanderers and they're going from here from stop to stop to stop.
But we find out that there was this tour called Rory Mass Barros, which is either apparent or something sad of Barros, which we all love from season one, that decided to go out. He said there's more than 11 here, we can go to that sousat where we can dig holes and have homes in five days or whatever. In a couple of hours we can have our homes built in this area in the sousat. So I'm gonna go find it.
And they left, they never come back and then goon double the goon, don't call her the goon. And then we asked Rory, are you coming back to take us to the sousat? That's why you're here. And then Rory realized that we didn't find the sousat.
We don't have a home and that's how it breaks. And even the way she says it's just all cheery died. But we know now that this is leading to the hobbits and to the shire. So doing a little research, yeah, the sousat is another word for the shire.
So that's where we're going to go. So I love that little scene. The Goudream Hunters came back looking forward the halflings, we'll see what that goes. Our friend is gonna be, has a big part to playing Save in all of us.
Oh, it's a no, it's bigger than a, oh, it's a grande off. A grande off grande off. I think that's another little nod that this stranger is grande off, this grande off. But yeah, with everything happening in the season, this scene, which wasn't slow, a lot of things happen.
Oh, I love when we get scenes like they just who come everything down and be more of the characters. And this was about Rory, not finding out, not accepting, but I guess expressing that her family doesn't have a home. The halflings don't have a home, they need to find one. And hopefully with the stores, they'll get the help to then go find the shire or find the hobbit or whatever and have the shire order.
So little nuts here and there, really great. So yeah, again, like I said, things are falling motion. The dark wizard saying they can outdo in Hunter just to find the halflings. We'll see how that goes now that they basically know where they are, the strangers with Tom Bombadil learning the wizarding ways and then Galadio is now with Adar.
And the end wise, and the end, I don't think they're coming back but it's a great little scene. We'll see now where Adar run their goals when he finds Adar and the orgs are the old place. So I said it for next week, next week, most likely, although we'll get things with Adar and Galadio. Most pretty sure most of it will be the downfall or whatever is happening in Luminor.
Now they got their insurrection over there, see what happens. And then the orgs, sorry, not the orgs, that was now that they get the rings from Sauron, from Anatar and Kalebriimbor and we'll get more with that group of characters over there. So very excited, not happy that we're gonna be happy with the resistance already. But I think now it's when it's going to pick up, like all the players are gonna be now set, all the pieces are set and now we can start playing the game basically.
So that's it, that's my thoughts for episode four, Elders. The Rinso Power, very excited for what's coming next. All right, so that does it for a talk on the Rinso Power, World Between Fandoms and Red River Venom Starboard podcast. I think that's it for today's show.
May brought a little music here as we say goodbye. This week, we'll be back next week with our friend Adar, Othi, we'll most likely be back. I forgot to say at the beginning, we very, most likely we're going to be interviewing Stephen Barnes, who's the author of the new May Swindle Book, the class of beast. That comes out middle of October, halfway through it a little bit more than halfway through it.
Most likely you're gonna be interviewing him soon. So if you have any questions that you want to ask Stephen Barnes, let me know either here or on Twitter, at Red River, at Red River, on Twitter, let me know any questions you have for him. We'll try to get those set up. So we'll see you guys next week.
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