SaaS lessons from Trump & Musk falling out, TikTok shop business opportunities and why you need to reinvent yourself

from Napkin Math · host Charlie & Sabba

There’s been a major catfight on the internet this week: Trump vs. Elon. So, Charlie did what any good podcast host would do and distilled the best lessons SaaS founders can take from the drama. The guys also share feedback from listeners, chat about opportunities in TikTok Shop, discuss why companies need to reinvent themselves, and of course, Charlie gets Sabba into trouble.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:32 - B2B lessons from Trump x Musk fallout03:41 - Napkin Math guest feedback12:51 - When did VEED get product market fit15:15 - VEED's 24 hour hackathon18:24 - Why companies need to reinvent themselves25:28 - The future of AI for VEED and 11 Labs31:55 - Business opportunities in TikTok Shop43:07 - Will ChatGPT be the operating system for AI?45:56 - Evolution of seat based billing

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