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EPISODE · May 10, 2025 · 47 MIN

Sacred Business Stories w/ Andrew Horn: Making Authenticity an Act of Service

from Sacred Business Stories · host Phil Powis ❤️⚡️, Carolina Wilke, and Andrew Horn

Andrew Horn’s journey from an insecure kid in Maui to building an eight-figure tech company, only to transition into executive coaching, reveals a profound truth: our greatest failures often become our most powerful gifts. During our conversation on Sacred Business Stories, Andrew shared how mastering communication techniques wasn't enough—he had to discover that authenticity itself could be an act of service.What struck me most was Andrew's story about breaking through his lifelong patterns at the Conscious Capitalism Summit. A simple interaction with a fellow entrepreneur named Megan became a "Matrix moment" that transformed not just how he communicates, but how he shows up in the world. This wasn't about learning new techniques—it was about embodying a different way of being.Now, as someone Forbes calls "the Dale Carnegie for the digital age," Andrew helps other leaders navigate the deep work of authentic connection while building successful businesses. His insights on transforming our relationship with fear, understanding emotional patterns, and finding flow states offer a roadmap for anyone seeking to align their work with their deepest truth.Show Notes[00:03:00] - The Foundation: Why Connection Became Andrew's Obsession* Bullied in Maui, struggled with social connection* First moment of agency at 13: deciding to change by talking to girls despite fear* Mother was 13-time published author in interpersonal dynamics* Learned communication techniques but internal insecurity remained[00:05:18] - The Matrix Moment: Authenticity as Service* Attended Gestalt Awareness Practice workshop* Three pillars: authenticity, curiosity, presence* Breakthrough conversation with Megan (media entrepreneur)* Realized his anxiety came from stories, not reality[00:16:47] - The Career Pivot: From Tech CEO to Executive Coach* Built Tribute.co to eight figures* First coach Lauren Zander told him "you're a coach at heart"* Needed two years to exit with integrity* Discovered he was good at coaching from day one[00:23:28] - The Power of Autotelic Activities* Definition: activities done for their own sake* Surfing as metaphor—exercise happens, but enjoyment is the point* Flow states and peak performance* Why doing what you want leads to better outcomes[00:30:23] - Working with Fear and Upper Limits Patterns* Scarcity mindset persisting despite financial success* Upper limits work from Gay Hendricks* No enemy in the mind or emotions* Emotional inquiry and understanding positive intent[00:40:06] - Breaking Childhood Patterns* Breaking the Cycle exercise* Childhood patterns from primary caregivers* Carry Forward vs Break the Cycle lists* Understanding negative love syndromeKey Quotes"When done consciously, my authenticity could be an implicit act of service." - Andrew Horn"They all are doing what they're doing because they want to be doing it." - On what successful entrepreneurs have in common"Any emotion that is presenting itself is there fundamentally because it is trying to serve us." - Andrew Horn"There's no enemy in the mind. There's no enemy in the emotions." - Andrew Horn"Context, what it is that we're feeling and thinking about the thing, is going to be much more important for improving performance than a new skill or technique." - Andrew HornResources Mentioned* Gestalt Awareness Practice (Esalen Institute)* "The Big Leap" by Gay Hendricks (Upper Limits work)* "Flow" by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (Flow states research)* "The Work" by Byron Katie (Thought inquiry)* Lauren Zander (Andrew's first coach, Handel Group)* Hoffman Process (Childhood pattern work)* Diana Chapman (Three tiers of integrity)* Brian Franklin (Ecology of emotions)Where to Find Andrew* Substack: Relational Leadership* Website: itsandrewhorne.com* Retreats: Quarterly leadership retreats for men (entrepreneurs) in New York, Los Angeles, and AustinThank YouA huge thank you to Andrew for sharing his journey and wisdom with our community. And thank you to everyone who joined us live or is catching up with the recording,Please ShareIf you enjoyed this conversation, please consider sharing it with someone who might benefit from hearing Andrew’s perspective on building a business that truly supports what matters most in life.If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversations we had with Elena Brower on authentic pricing and finding balance and Charlie Gilkey about when business finds you instead of the other way around.What’s next?Carolina and I are ready to support you in creating a business that aligns with your heart's calling. Here's how we can help:* Discover Your Sacred Business Alignment (Free): Take the Harmony Map Assessment and read our Sacred Business Manifesto to understand where you are on your path and how to move forward with clarity and confidence. Perfect for entrepreneurs wanting to understand how everything in their business connects.* Read the Sacred Business Manifesto (Free): Learn the core principles of building a Sacred Business through our founding story and framework. See how we transformed our approach to business by understanding that everything is connected.* Sacred Business Network: Connect with heart-centered entrepreneurs who understand that success comes from alignment. Monthly connection circles, community workshops, and ongoing support through our private community space. Get the encouragement and collaboration you need to grow.* Join Our Next Implementation Challenges: Action-focused programs like the Sacred Business Planning Rituals Challenge and Substack Growth Challenge help you create real momentum in specific areas of your business. Free for Club members, discounted for Network members. Be sure you are subscribed to be notified when the next one is offered live.* Sacred Growth Club: A complete support system with weekly embodiment classes, live coaching calls, writing circles, and expert workshops. Designed for entrepreneurs ready to build sustainable success through proven practices while staying connected to their purpose. Includes full access to the Network and all challenges.* Be The Flow Coaching (1:1): Personal guidance combining strategic business planning with energy alignment work. Weekly coaching sessions plus full access to Sacred Growth Club benefits. Ideal for entrepreneurs seeking deep transformation and sustainable growth in their business. Get full access to Sacred Business Flow at love.sacredbusinessflow.com/subscribe

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