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EPISODE · May 29, 2026 · 23 MIN

SAGPodcast: The Big Picture of Grants Pass, Attack Geese, and the Work Behind the Myth

from Sometimes a Great Podcast · host Oregon Department of Human Services

Season 1, Episode 78 — May 27, 2026Length: 23:28This week, The Big Picture comes from Grants Pass in Josephine County, where we sit down with Tanner Moss, achild welfare coaching and training specialist, and Brynn Orr, an intake worker in District 8, to talk about child welfare work in Southern Oregon and the distance between what people imagine rural communities are like and what lifethere actually is.The conversation explores the differences and similarities between Jackson and Josephine counties, from geography and road systems to small-town culture, farming communities, Cave Junction lore, and the everyday realities of traveling remote roads to meet families where they are. Tanner and Brynn describe a region that is often simplified from the outside, but much richer, more complex, and more surprising up close—sometimesincluding attack geese.They also talk about how assumptions shape the work. Whether it is the mythos around Cave Junction, stereotypesabout rural Oregon, or the natural skepticism some families may feel when child welfare staff arrive at the door, the episode returns again and again to the importance of humility, respect, and listening before deciding what a place—or a person—is.For Tanner and Brynn, the work means recognizing the power imbalance that comes with representing the state, beinghonest about it, and still approaching each family with dignity. It means remembering that a report may be missing context, that every interaction has nuance, and that trust is built by showing up as a person first—not as a stereotype, a title, or a government system with a clipboard.In the end, the conversation is about Southern Oregon as it actually is: beautiful, complicated, funny, resilient,misunderstood, full of good food, strong community, and people making a life in places others too often reduce to punchlines. From Grants Pass to Cave Junction and beyond, it is a reminder that understanding a community requires presence, curiosity, and respect—all while keeping people in focus in… The Big Picture.Credits Host: Dr. Bethany Grace Howe, Communications Produced by: Dr. Bethany Grace Howe Contact: [email protected]

Season 1, Episode 78 — May 27, 2026Length: 23:28This week, The Big Picture comes from Grants Pass in Josephine County, where we sit down with Tanner Moss, achild welfare coaching and training specialist, and Brynn Orr, an intake worker in District 8, to talk about child welfare work in Southern Oregon and the distance between what people imagine rural communities are like and what lifethere actually is.The conversation explores the differences and similarities between Jackson and Josephine counties, from geography and road systems to small-town culture, farming communities, Cave Junction lore, and the everyday realities of traveling remote roads to meet families where they are. Tanner and Brynn describe a region that is often simplified from the outside, but much richer, more complex, and more surprising up close—sometimesincluding attack geese.They also talk about how assumptions shape the work. Whether it is the mythos around Cave Junction, stereotypesabout rural Oregon, or the natural skepticism some families may feel when child welfare staff arrive at the door, the episode returns again and again to the importance of humility, respect, and listening before deciding what a place—or a person—is.For Tanner and Brynn, the work means recognizing the power imbalance that comes with representing the state, beinghonest about it, and still approaching each family with dignity. It means remembering that a report may be missing context, that every interaction has nuance, and that trust is built by showing up as a person first—not as a stereotype, a title, or a government system with a clipboard.In the end, the conversation is about Southern Oregon as it actually is: beautiful, complicated, funny, resilient,misunderstood, full of good food, strong community, and people making a life in places others too often reduce to punchlines. From Grants Pass to Cave Junction and beyond, it is a reminder that understanding a community requires presence, curiosity, and respect—all while keeping people in focus in… The Big Picture.Credits Host: Dr. Bethany Grace Howe, Communications Produced by: Dr. Bethany Grace Howe Contact: [email protected]

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