Psychedelic Healing: Cannabis & Ketamine Treatment for Healing Trauma | Saj Razvi

Saj Razvi is the director of education at the Psychedelic Somatic Institute, a psychotherapist, and former clinical researcher in the MAPS phase 2 trials of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy. He is one of the primary developers of Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Psychotherapy (PSIP) — a groundbreaking therapeutic modality that addresses mental health issues at the root cause level. His primary work is training clinicians to provide legal and effective psychedelic therapy in their private practices.In this conversation, we explore how psychedelics work and differ from one another, why developing a strong somatic pathway is essential for deep psychedelic healing, and the biggest problem in psychedelic circles — why relational healing is so often overlooked and why it matters so much.We get into the limits of talk therapy, and what lies beyond it, implicit memory and the unconscious mind, how Cannabis, Ketamine, and classic psychedelics compare as therapeutic tools, and the pitfalls psychedelic therapists and healers can fall into — including a powerful cautionary tale for healing professionals.We also explore combining plant medicine ceremonies with psychotherapy, whether psychedelic therapy can resolve narcissistic personality disorder, and the importance of understanding traumatic transference in psychedelic work.A rigorous and practically grounded conversation for anyone exploring the frontier of psychedelic healing, somatic therapy, and trauma recovery.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES 🔗Psychedelic Somatic Institute The Body Keeps the Score — Bessel Van Der Kolk Saj on the Back from the Abyss podcast — Part 1 Saj on the Back from the Abyss podcast — Part 2🕰️ TIMESTAMPS 🕰️0:00 - Introduction1:20 - What inspired Saj to become a trauma therapist3:00 - Saj's personal experience with psychedelics5:18 - How psychedelics work and differ from one another9:14 - How developing a strong somatic pathway impacts the psychedelic experience11:58 - The biggest problem in psychedelic circles — why we need relational healing18:48 - The limits of talk therapy22:03 - Implicit memory and the unconscious mind23:50 - Unpacking Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Psychotherapy (PSIP)31:50 - Cannabis vs Ketamine vs classic psychedelics49:46 - Psychedelic therapy training for mental health professionals53:20 - Combining plant medicine ceremonies with psychotherapy56:09 - Can psychedelic therapy resolve narcissistic personality disorder?59:00 - Pitfalls psychedelic therapists and healers can fall into1:07:11 - A powerful cautionary tale for healing professionals1:18:30 - Artem speaks about his work as a mental health educator1:20:23 - Further unpacking the PSIP training1:26:20 - How the psychedelic experience can benefit therapists1:30:00 - The importance of understanding traumatic transference1:37:22 - Connect with Saj at psychedelicsomatic.org*Subscribe to my YouTube channel to watch the video versions of the Elevating Consciousness Podcast *Subscribe to the Insighter Substack to get in-depth articles on the theory and practice of human transformation through a post-conventional