Sally Henderson with Jackson Wray on captaining Saracens through the biggest scandal in English rugby and what he learned about leadership that you can't fake when it matters

Jackson Wray spent 20 years at Saracens, made 309 appearances and won five Premierships and three European Cups before retiring on his own terms with years still left on his contract.In this episode of The How of High Performance he talks about the morning his team were told they were being relegated, the away game two days later where none of it counted on the scoreboard but everything counted in how they showed up for each other, and why what he did as captain in that moment only worked because of the years of consistency that came before it.Jackson shares what he calls thunderbolts, the high stakes moments you can't prepare for, why shared understanding is the true leading indicator of a high performing team, and why his advice to senior leaders is rooted in something you have to practise every single day long before you need it.About the ShowThe How of High Performance is a podcast hosted by Sally Henderson, High Stakes Leadership Mentor, Author, TEDx and Keynote Speaker with 26 years of experience mentoring senior leaders.Why you lead gets all the attention, but it's HOW you lead that makes the real difference, especially when the stakes are high and the pressure is permanent.Every episode, Sally talks with a leader who has been tested in leadership and in life, with guests spanning C-suite business, Olympic sport, academia and the military, and asks them to share what they learned about their HOW under pressure.Please follow or subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts - it helps other senior leaders find the show.Sally's book The How of High Performance is available at amazon.co.uk and from all good bookshops.Visit sallyhenderson.co.uk or connect with Sally on LinkedIn.