EPISODE · Aug 14, 2025 · 45 MIN
Sam Altman x Nikhil Kamath: How to Win When AI Changes Everything | People by WTF | Episode 13
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I finally sat down with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, to discuss the launch of GPT-5, its differences, whether we’re inching closer to agent-like AI, what it takes to build a future that’s moving at breakneck speed.00:00 - Intro01:13 - What’s New in GPT-5?02:54 - Sam on First Principles, Careers & Future Industries05:47 - What’s Possible with GPT-507:09 - Building on GPT-5: Skills & Science Applications10:28 - Mastering Today’s AI Tools11:37 - Sam’s Self-Perception & Edge at 1913:42 - Is Humility Still an Advantage?18:51 - Parenthood & Why He Chose It21:19 - How Marriage, Religion & Kids Will Evolve22:20 - Capitalism, Democracy & The Odds of Socialism25:44 - Does AGI Make Capital Obsolete?28:25 - Marginal Utility & the Fate of Wrappers34:15 - Is Contrarian Thinking an Edge?37:33 - AGI vs. Human Intelligence38:56 - The Future of Robotics40:55 - Where the Form Factor is Headed42:54 - Climate Change & AI in India#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: [https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)LinkedIN: [](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#SamAltman - CEO, OpenAITwitter: https://x.com/samaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline
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I finally sat down with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, to discuss the launch of GPT-5, its differences, whether we’re inching closer to agent-like AI, what it takes to build a future that’s moving at breakneck speed.00:00 - Intro01:13 - What’s New in GPT-5?02:54 - Sam on First Principles, Careers & Future Industries05:47 - What’s Possible with GPT-507:09 - Building on GPT-5: Skills & Science Applications10:28 - Mastering Today’s AI Tools11:37 - Sam’s Self-Perception & Edge at 1913:42 - Is Humility Still an Advantage?18:51 - Parenthood & Why He Chose It21:19 - How Marriage, Religion & Kids Will Evolve22:20 - Capitalism, Democracy & The Odds of Socialism25:44 - Does AGI Make Capital Obsolete?28:25 - Marginal Utility & the Fate of Wrappers34:15 - Is Contrarian Thinking an Edge?37:33 - AGI vs. Human Intelligence38:56 - The Future of Robotics40:55 - Where the Form Factor is Headed42:54 - Climate Change & AI in India#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: [https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)LinkedIN: [](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#SamAltman - CEO, OpenAITwitter: https://x.com/samaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline
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