SAP vice president for global public sector Ryan van Leen...

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In this episode of Commercial Disco, SAP’s Ryan van Leent explains why the future of government AI depends as much on knowing when not to apply artificial intelligence as on building new capabilities. He unpacks the risks of agentic AI, the limits of automation, and the practical steps needed to shift public-sector AI from endless pilots into trusted, production-grade systems.

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In this episode of Commercial Disco, SAP’s Ryan van Leent explains why the future of government AI depends as much on knowing when not to apply artificial intelligence as on building new capabilities. He unpacks the risks of agentic AI, the limits...

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