Sara Pantuliano of ODI

Host Jamie McGoldrick speaks with Sara Pantuliano, Chief Executive at ODI. The organization has their own podcast, Think Change, which discusses global issues fortnightly with leading experts. Sara is the Chair of the UN Secretary-General’s Seventh Advisory Group of the UN Peacebuilding Fund and a member of UNFPA’s ICPD25 High-Level Commission. She also serves on the High-Level Group on Humanitarian Resilience and Investing and the Digital Currency Governance Consortium Steering Committee of the World Economic Forum (WEF). Jamie and Sara discuss the work ODI is currently involved in, and she gives her perspective on crises happening around the globe. She explains that there are people losing faith in humanitarian systems, and she highlights Niger and Sudan as areas where political and humanitarian leaders have struggled. Jamie and Sara talk about reforms needed in humanitarian systems. They also discuss neutrality, with Sara calling neutrality a fallacy, arguing local aid groups do not operate from a stance of pure neutrality.