Sarah Sherman

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It is Sarah Sherman. Sarah is a current cast member on Saturday Night Live, and we could consider her a vet. She's just finished her fifth season. And I just want to file this one under Not Safe for Work or for Kids, because we do get into some fun and down and dirty topics like well, SNLDA and Psychoanalysis and Long Island and her insane, wildly original new special Sarah Squirm live and in the flesh on HBO. So listen for Sarah, but before we start, right, we always like to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who has spent time with them and who can speak well and give us a question.

And we're going to talk today to Mitra Juhari. Mitra is an amazing actress, writer, producer. You may know her from episodes of The Bear, from the show she created, Three Busy Debra's. She's a writer on Big Mouth. And she's just incredible talent, came up with Sarah, her good friend, we're going to check in with Mitra who is on her lunch break and get a question from her.

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Yeah! She's on the set. Mitra is on the set. Mitra, where are we talking to you from? Netflix!

A lot of people don't know that Netflix has beautiful offices, really, really. They give you a free hanger. So, I don't really think anything on that. You can hang anything on that as long as it's not hands because a hanger is broken. I hear giggles in the back.

Which was in there. On top of Mitra being incredibly talented, she's also like a real deal activist boots on the ground person. And I was thinking about during COVID when you zoomed with my sons to talk to them about the LA unhoused situation and what they could do about it. It was so cute and sweet. I like, I love talking to them.

They were so thoughtful and had such good questions and were really making me laugh. Remember that when we were all just like in that COVID bubble of just like, I guess we, I guess what this is how we'll learn now? I was living with Hattie and we were making some of the most fucked up cocktails imaginable. Like actively drinking and being like, this is disgusting. And finishing them.

Hattie Harrison, another hilarious comedian. And okay, we've got Sarah coming in today. That's another reason why I'm not there. I want to be seeing her. I have so many questions for Sarah.

Did you watch her special? Yes. I have questions for her too. Her nasty ass. Her nasty ass special.

You have known Sarah for a very long time. When did you two first meet? 2015. And our mutual friend, Drennad, who knew her from Chicago. She was coming out to New York to do shows.

And she guested on this show called Holy Thought that I was a part of. And he was like, there's this freak coming. Named Sarah Sherman. And I think you guys would really like each other. And then we like, hit it off immediately.

And we went on a tour with this great comedian writer named Jimmy Loftus called the Sarah Meetron Jamie our ugly tour. And just like, she eventually wrote and appeared butt naked on Deborah. Yes, we worked on a show together, Three Busy Debras on Adult Swim that you wrote and produced and you were the star of, along with other Debras. Sandy and Elisa. That's right.

And Sarah was a writer on there, which is where I first heard her. And I was introduced to her as Sarah Squirm, which is the name she was going by at the time. Which I remember thinking at the time, it was unusual that a comic actor had like what felt like almost like a rock star name. Yes. And it makes so much sense because like she came up in these great music venues.

And like it was like, I feel like every time I would come to Chicago and do shows with her at the hideout, it was always like with these really interesting fans that I would like, I've never heard of, would never have heard of. And she's like such a true fan of like my music and worked in radio and like just brings all of that. So like makes sense to me that this like person who's working in these DIY spaces, both like in music and stand up and art would have this sort of like rocker character persona. Totally. My question is today for her, really like when did that person start?

When does that person come out? Because you know Sarah really well. And I've gotten to know her from getting to work with her. And her persona and her personality are like alike, but also very different. Yeah.

She's like, I feel like it makes so much sense that she landed in Chicago because she does have this like warmth and like, I don't know familiarity with people that feels very Midwestern to me, even though she's not from there. But like she's just very cozy. People feel very comfortable with her. What'd you expect from someone who's like material is kind of exclusively about like her flapping labia? Exactly.

Like for people that are learning about Sarah here, like her stuff on SNL is you know, in the structure of SNL, but Sarah's material is like super scatological. She calls it body horror. It's like a ton of like dysmorphia, on dysmorphia, shocking, shocking, shocking stuff. And I want to ask Sarah like the cutaways to her audience during the special, I'm like, who is this audience? I was saying the sex.

So many men, so many men laughing and being like ritually humiliated at the same time. It's amazing. Perverts. God, my favorite word, my favorite word. Would you say Sarah's your first pervert guest?

Oh, absolutely not. No, but I love a pervert. I don't like a creep. There's a difference. Big time.

And it's a fine line. I mean, you know, and it's very, it happens. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying, but rarely are women creeps, but they can definitely be perverts. But if you're a perverted man, you have a high creep, susceptibility, obviously.

You gotta be really careful. You gotta be really careful. You gotta be really careful. But a fun pervert, I mean, they kind of feel almost, you know, that's another thing that I want to talk to Sarah about is like, the way she is a fun pervert and then turns on her audience and yells at them for liking it. It's so real.

Well, because it's like, it's such a relief to have someone, obviously, in such a heightened way, but like talk about all these things that like, I also am like horrified by in my own body where I'm like, why does it do that? Why is there hair there? What is that substance? I'm like, having someone put words to it and show it in like such a nad, like it is so heightened, but it's also like how I feel looking at like these parts of me. And she really brings it to life in a way that is like, actually, very inviting, I feel where it's like, I'm disgusting.

Are you disgusting? We're all disgusting. It's a perfect way to sum it up. In watching her stuff, on the surface level, it's kind of like grotesque, almost performance art stuff, but then underneath it is like this idea of claiming the stuff that gets thrown at us all the time anyway, just kind of claiming it and like doubling down on it. Yes, the horrors of being a woman and having a body.

So I always ask people to give my guest a question. What do you think Sarah would want to talk about? Answer, smaller, big, any story you want to prompt her to tell or anything you don't know about her yet? Okay, I wrote it on a few. Oh, you're an agent a writer.

I really overthought it. We have a prize. Let's get the room in here and let's just keep pitching. I got together about 30,000 of my favorite writers to put together a few questions for Sarah. Okay, I wanted to force her to talk about her child musical theater career because she was really, she has so many stories about like liberty she took with the characters and she was given.

Amazing. Thank you. That's great. Okay, I had two bigger questions. If you had a zillion dollars to make any disgusting practical creation, what would it be?

Whoa, great question. We might have to ask all these questions. These are good. And then what is your biggest bomb and what's your favorite show that you've done? So it's like a, you know, best and worst because I feel like Sarah has some like really high, high and some really low.

So I think either of those I would be really excited to hear about. And then if there's time, where does she stand on the real house? I have one. You know, if you're like, you know, if you're like hitting a wall conversationally. Okay, perfect.

I can't wait to ask her these questions. Really good questions, Mitra. Thank you. You're talking to us on your lunch break. I loved every second.

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It's okay. I didn't want it to feel like they needed a drink. I could not, I could have contributed to this. Oh, I can only imagine what you would have contributed to this. It's so amazing.

I actually, before we start, I wore these on behalf of you. Because I feel like you would like them. I wore a cheeseburger sneaker. I should be in the food wall. I will put one on the wall.

It's a cheeseburger sneaker from, um, it's Dolls Kill. It's Dolls Kill. And I feel like I'm not going to lift my foot up because I don't want any perverts. I'm seeing her feet for screenshots with self-reliant money. And I'm going to eat that.

And I'm going to eat my scream. Oh, I scream. I feel good now. Okay. I'm not stressed.

I was stressed that I didn't bring food. But I came as food. I came as food. Sarah Sherman is here. Do you feel weird now that you're wearing one shoe?

It's such a good question. Let me take that in. Um, yeah. I'm going to take the other shoe off. But now perverts are going to know that I'm barefoot all the time.

Can you see? No. God, I would never let anyone see my feet. Have you seen her feet? No.

I don't work. I need for free. I look like I didn't have to do it first. Oh, take me out to my plastic dinner first. Have you seen her wiki feet?

Yeah. And what are we talking about it? I feel like with body parts, no one knows this more than you. Like you have to make peace with something you feel neutral about. So you have big thoughts about I like my feet.

How about you? I have a... I got anxious recently. Well, as you know on the show, we have to wear many different shoes. Many different have many different shoes.

I'm always putting in sort of... I think everyone's doing a practical joke on me by putting me in these big heels. So the point where one of the writers, Ashboard, showed on the show, she puts like in the stage direction, like Sarah exits like... That's my heel. That's my heel.

That's my heel. That's my heel. That's my heel. Okay. Take back around.

So something happened to my feet where I think one of my toes, I have no medical basis for this. I do not go to the doctor. I do not look this up. Interesting. I think that one of my toes is like...

It's a toe. I love that we're talking about body stuff right away. I love it. You asked for it. I know I did.

I asked for it. I should look this up. In my head, one of my toes is just the bones are loose but inside of the toe sack. Well, I have a whole thing about... Oh my God, you know how many feet...

Your feet now are really giving it for the part of two of her feet. Yeah. But your feet, feet health are very important. Now, because I'm getting to the age where I'm starting to read like- Barely 21. Barely 21.

Barely 21. Barely 21. That what needs to stay healthy for you to like survive the next- It's your feet. And feet is a big one. Meaning you got to be able to take care of your feet, have good balance.

Do you have good balance? Can you balance on one leg? I'm stainless like so cockly, I feel like yeah. Yeah, right on. You did it.

And I don't have, I'm gonna say something again, this is more feet thang. I have a huge arch. That's very- so do I. It's crazy. And it's good to have it.

Okay. Because it only doesn't make your feet look nice when you want to eventually sell your feet picks, which we're all gonna be there. I have tried actually and I failed. Okay, we're gonna get into that. Terri Sherman is here.

She is our first SNL current SNL cast on the show. Oh my god. Do I have all the skoop? Well you're a vet. Like how many years have you been on the show?

You're a farmer. Hi, but you just wrapped SNL. You have a comedy special out. It's incredible. I cannot wait to talk about it.

It's insane. It's quite insane. It's quite insane. Right now you're in that like schools out summertime, like you just finished your last show last week. How are you feeling?

How's your energy level? I feel like I had to show when you hosted this season. That was in the very beginning, right? And not to suck your butt, but everybody goes, who's your favorite host? Everyone goes to April.

Immediately. You have a lot of questions for you. I was like, what? I was like, like every, it's so funny. As a cast member, you have such an experience and then when you're a host, you have the experience which is like you just wish you could immediately do it again.

Yes. Immediately. And I was just saying to you that my favorite times are always in between times. Interesting. I love the joking around between scenes.

Yes. I like the beginning of the week. Yes. I like the like weird middle times and I have such a fond memory of me, you and Bowen. I know sitting on a couch and getting to know you in a way that I don't think I had in a fast amount of time.

Yes. Laughing. I know in a lot of giggles. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm laughing. Thank you for saying that. Okay. So I was your favorite host, great. I appreciate that.

And my favorite. Like I wish people saw the table read. Like that is when I am laughing. I'm like, and that was my favorite part of your week because, okay, the butt sucking is going to commence. I'm usually doing that.

Okay. Well, I was trying to receive. I was like, hey, you like, obviously you're good at SNL. Like obviously, but seeing, you know, how many sketches are at table read like 40, you have a different funny thing. You were doing like fun new character voices for every sketch out of the 40 and it's like, how many of those were cold reads and you were just like, like the doll with the eye.

Oh, yeah. That was not laughing. That's not laughing. He submitted a sketch for us and we didn't do it. I try to watch that.

I can organically laugh if I'm not in a sketch. I try not to read those sketches ahead of time. Okay. So you watch the whole table read like, but that's very generous of you because you're actually providing an audience which people don't usually do. Like, you know, everyone's in their own world at those readers.

And everyone's tired and everyone's like waiting for their stuff to get on. And so the fact that you could even do that means that you're like trying to actually stay present. Like your generous person. And I think it's also a second right back. I'll take it.

What human centipede ourselves? Oh my God. I don't remember. I mean, come on. That's a good trilogy.

There's three. I cannot believe that movie was made. The movies. There's three. There are three.

Okay. Do you need me to talk about that? And the first is the film. One reason because I'm so gassed at that movie, I get it constantly on my TikTok. Is it having a resurgence?

Yeah. There's like a lot of clips about or like, I just keep watching. Right. Okay. Sorry.

You are making it happen. I'm going to use your podcast platform to do something. Tom six. No, if you are doing human centipede four. No, do not.

We do not need a human centipede four. No, I will show. She won't. She won't. She won.

I can't go over. No, no, no. We don't need it. We did it. We did it.

Most important to send me. It's fucking disgusting. And Tom, you are a freak. Okay. But you're on your summer break.

Yeah. So you're like, what do you do for your summer? What do you do? I'm experimenting with something this summer. I don't understand how anyone can do anything while it's happening.

I feel like you were doing this. No. I can't. I was all consuming. When I even said to you because you did work birth and it was about you being the sketch when you hosted on you being pregnant and you were the work.

I was like, this actually was your life. Yeah. The fact that you were pregnant there, I can't even work there. Like if my contact is too dry. I don't know what your life is and if you ever wanted to carry a child.

But pregnancy is wild and funny and funny because you are completely different body and you're all body stuff and you're you scare a lot of people by walking around. It scares me. Yeah. It scares me. And I'm like, what do you mean they're moving my organs around inside me?

They have to say where they are. They're the body inside of you. They're never alone. I can't even imagine like my body can't even take being at the job regular. Not that pregnant isn't regular.

You know normal. I like it. But like if I have like a bad burrito and I'm like, I can't get right. Well, I mean, the idea of like everyone knowing when someone has a stomachache, that's new. That is new.

That's new. You know what I don't like and I'll say I'll stand on my two feet buckle my shoe and say I don't like it. It's like hot girls with IBS. It's like I'm not proud of the diarrhea that I have every single day. I've got seven minutes in about to diarrhea.

Yeah. I was hoping we would. Both in the morning. I just think that like more and more, there's an acceptance that everyone has a different way to work within the system. Yeah.

And I would say that you being on the show is also I think another example of like how the show has smartly remembered that it is a variety show with a million different voices and different styles. And so there just was I think a little bit more. It was just like a more homogenous. Same way to do it. Same people writing it.

Same people on it. And it just keeps changing. I actually think about this a lot because I'm like this is not even to say itself deprecatedly. so that with an accent. I don't think I would have gotten on the show during your era because.

No, that's not controversial. But I would have I would like to be a more talented sketch performer. Okay. I find myself to be quite limited. Oh, okay.

Do you know what I'm saying? Well, okay. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

I was born when I was born. Okay. Sarah Sherman, let's go back. We're going back to Long Island. We're going back 18 years.

I'm 18 now. Just turn. Okay. Carry on. I'm in Long Island as a little.

As a little. As a little. Your mom is public school teacher. Yeah. So was mine.

And your dad runs a children's clothing company. I mean, like of course you love clothes. Of course you dress. I know. But I'm like addicted.

Okay. This is fall. Yeah. So he's so he's like a he's like a garment. Yeah.

He is like old school Jewish schmata business. It's like everyone saw on cut gems was like the diamond district in Manhattan. It's all those Jewish guys running around two blocks over is the garment district and schmata is Yiddish for rags. So it's like all the same kind of Jewish guys running around with clothes. Right.

So I was like, it is produced. So really complicated, interesting characters. Well, I saw on cut gems and I go, huh, that's about my dad. I just divide. Right.

So I stalked the writer and I was like, you wrote a movie about my dad. And he goes, well, this is actually quite interesting because I'm from your neighborhood. I went to a high school near your high school and my dad is in schmata. So yeah, I did. Whoa.

Long Island. Okay. What is fifth grade Sarah? It's annoying. I was like, because I was like the clothes thing like my dad was in schmata.

I grew up around clothes. So like I was addicted to the nanny, golden girls and like my big thing. In middle school, when I started in middle school plays, Miss Orange, who ran the costume department would let me kind of read the costume closet. Okay. This makes sense.

And we're into that. We always speak to people who know our guests really well. We get a question from them and we talk to Mitra. So Mitra gave us a tribute to the best. What did you do?

Girl. She gave us a couple of really good questions throughout this interview. I'm going to pepper them in because of course Mitra, good girl, giving us somebody good questions. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure the list is long.

It's just going to be one of those questions, which is you did a lot of musical theater as a kid and you took liberty with some parts. And Mitra, you know what you have done. Mitra knows what she has done. She's helping out her friends. I just, let me explain myself.

I'm going to defend myself here. I always wanted to be a comedian, like grew up watching. Why do you think? Funny family? Funny family.

Okay, yeah. Really funny family, funny dad, funny, like, you know, love, love expression was like mean, bullying, funny, it was addicted to like Seinfeld, SNL. And all that. Brothers and sisters. The younger brother, also funny, but I was kind of like a bully, but it was funny.

Yeah. So, you know, it's been fun. I know, like, right. Yeah, I had a big science room skeleton in my room. My parents were always like, I joined up like this, you know.

And I'm like, you got me a giant science room skeleton when I was like, you know, my brother was like three on April, I loved April Fool's Day because I also felt like the comedian's did a shine. It's like clowns Christmas. He was like three and I put this giant life size science room skeleton in his bed and he woke up crying. You know, like, so it's like stuff like that. I loved it.

My, my, my mom, this one was on April Fool's Day. What was the theme? Do you have a theme? It was April Fool's Day. And the invitation was snakes in a can that I handle every time everyone's house.

You learned so much about people when they talk about their bar and bar and bar and bar and bar and bar and bar and bar and bar. You really do. Like, I barely do. He was like, I like, I was like running for, you know, president or whatever. So you learned so much about what their hopes and dreams are.

Snakes in a can of credit. I have a few questions on every seat. And like, you know, you're on, you're on, and I'm it's about, you're like on the, the be mother's stage at the synagogue. I had a wrapped audience of like 80 year old old, old, bald Jewish guys. I was going off.

That was my first like, I crushed up. I bought a spot. Oh my God. Do you remember any of your materials? It's like, because it was my first, you know, I was, I've been chasing the dragon or whatever.

Ever since. Like the high was, I went to a very conservative synagogue. Okay. And it's like the service is like eight hours intense Hebrew. I had an old word I was saying.

And they go like, and now the sisterhood of the temple would like to present you with your gift. And like these two conservative women came up with candlesticks. I go, great. Just when I always wanted. I was in the front going.

And they not to brag. He was kind of the talk of the town for like a second. I bet. It was kind of like everyone was like, oh my God. It was like, turning to a camera.

That's not there. Okay. So what liberties did you take as a musical theater kid? How did you interpret the part? You're so evil.

Is this an on DC story? So I just want to be a comedian. I want to be a performer. So it's like, I would do any play. What I would do, like I couldn't sing or dance, but I do the musicals because I just wanted to do it.

And I could never get apart. But I was like, in with the costume closet. It was orange would let me. I got addicted to like 80s little like sequin jackets because like grandma yet on the nanny would wear them. And that's she was orange.

Let me keep the jackets. The one that looked exactly like grandma yet a sequin jacket. And so she let me kind of I didn't have a part. I was in the chorus and into the woods. Oh, yeah.

Which was behind a screen. You were in the woods. I was in the woods and silhouette. Sure. So I was just basically a little outline.

Yeah. But I was in the costume closet. I found a red and black lace gown with a firm hand muff. Oh, yeah. And I went to the director and I said, so this is my costume.

I am my character is the Russians arena. And I'm just I didn't really think I even knew what that was. I didn't have any words. I didn't have an accent. And so in the play bill, it would be like all the leads listed.

Yeah. And then like the chorus a whole list of all the faceless people behind the scrim. And then Sarah Sherman will be playing the russian xarina. That's incredible. You created your own disorder.

But it's such a con I mean, that is the thing about you Sarah is and like we'll get to it with us and now, but like there isn't an eight competence about you that and I say that because I want you to know, to me, that's like the what distinguishes people on us and now right away. Sure. And I just want you to know that your content doesn't matter. It's like, are we worried about you when we're watching you? I'm never worried about you anytime you're ever performing.

Like and it's not like cocky like because you're super self deprecating all the time. You're very honest. You're very like your feelings are right up front and center, but there is a confidence that I feel like you just were born with this idea of like grabbing things and wanting them. I think I'm so used to bombing. Yeah.

It sounds like I crushed my first time like that. I'm so it's like everything that is all every bad thing could that could happen to me on stage has already happened kind of thing. So it's like I don't even know if it's like confidence. It's like I'm fucking crushed this shit right now. It's like what more could happen.

I'm not the master square garden. What more could happen? But ambivalence is confidence too. Yeah sure. It is like this idea of like I'm just going to float a little bit in a little dissociation too.

Like I'm going to float above this moment so that you're going to have to come find me. I'm not going to like be like me like me like me like me. Right. That's the difference. But you went to Northwestern and oh this is what I find interesting when you talk about like I want to have more experience in sketching improv.

You try out for like the sketch group. Don't get in. Yeah. Which was like I was as I was I was I had tried stand up like I down a little bit when I was like like playing in there like I was I was like I'm going to like, I'll win and open make it like a barbecue restaurant because you know, could do a bar yet. Like I dabble a little, but that was my first big like, you know, all I wanted to do was be a comedian.

And it when someone was like my peers were like, No. I was like, Can you? Yeah. So I'm full of I could be motivated by spite, but then you started a comedy show in Chicago called Hell Gamer Yeah. How would you describe that show?

I'm like the first I like the intervene. It was like, how did I even begin. This is the first show? Yeah, it's my friends basement. Of course.

Chicago has like an amazing DIY electronic noise, crazy performance or commie scene. And like, you know, there was like comedy, like there's all this improv in Chicago and whatever, but it's like the funniest people to me were these like freaks. So like my friend Mike Sugarman was performing as under this noise moniker, Shug. And the first hell trap night meant, night, night meant, that is Shug. The first hell trap night, remember my friend's basement?

The poster was like a woman's face was see through and you could see her teeth and brains. Cause I was like, you know, that's the trigger warning. And you know, I hosted, I did like 10 bad minutes of standup and then my friend Shug came out in a trench coat in a wig, sunglasses, flashed everyone and he had chorizo taped to his dick and was, you know, smashing light bulbs, but that was music of course. And I think I did a, I don't even know what that, these bits were like, it was like stretched to call it comedy. Like, well, it was like performance art, right?

But with like, the intent was to be funny, but when I chugged a can of room temperature clam chowder, I think the joke was literally like, oh, like a woman who's a tall drink of water, I'm a tall can of clam chowder and then Chug no one's like cool. Okay. You know, we don't need to look back on our bits and explain them. They were just like moments. They were moments, babe.

You were experimented. Of course. But you were like, I mean, I think it's one of the things that you've brought to the show, like just your aesthetic, not only outside, but like your influences. Like you are very, very interested in all types of media and art. I am.

We talk about it in your special, like, like, Paula Poundstone fucked, you also talk about like, like, random. I think that really makes sense by the way. And give birth to what? Oh, so then I just say stuff and I'm like, that's going in. But also, ren stimpy and like, Pee-wee.

And what were your, like, what kind of stuff were you, like, when you think about all that stuff that jammed in your head, when you were younger, what got in there? I think, like, I always, I loved doing art and making stuff. And I also liked performing comedy. And for some reason, I didn't know that you could do both at the same time. Like, when I started.

So it was like 2015, like, you know, there's not like the Internet in the waiters now. Like, I didn't realize I could blend art. Like, I was doing all the posters for my show. Like, because it was like, it was very, you know, raunchy blue, like horrific comedy. So I make the posters be like, long as with nipples on.

I'd be like, you know what the show's gonna be, whatever. Right. The letters are like a tampon with poop on it. I don't know what that created. But I was like, oh, that was like a trigger for you.

But the show, awesome. My mom, by the way, two of my special taping wore my old Hell-Chop night marriage shirt, which was a uterus with ovary eyeballs and a severed finger shoved up into the, and a smiling, like, open gash vagina with like a butt all. Do you guys do, insert a picture here? I'm gonna do it. Sarah, how about you, what do your parents think?

Like, how do they, it is so intense? It's intense. It's intense. And I don't mean to be mistaken, because like, if it's a man, they get a different pass, but like, your stuff, as a parent, because your parents love you and they love that. They love the work, how did they, like, do they invite their friends to your show?

They're down. It is, it's literally like, Paul Schrader hardcore. The, no, I don't, I don't, no. When he has to watch his daughter doing porn, it is that. But, no, no, no, no.

They love it. They love it. They are really supportive. And I do think I have to say that. I think that's like what the confidence is a little.

Okay, I think that that's true. I didn't want to say it, but like, I'm learning about like, loving parents privilege. Like, if you have parents, or like, you're great, you're really creates a scaffolding for the rest of your life, obviously, when you try things where you're like, well, guess my parents will still love me. No, I, there's not a threat of losing my family. Yeah.

And like, maybe this is TMI, but I did a bit, I've done a lot of like updates where I'm in a big animal costume and that is Lauren's idea. Yeah. Because I think I'm like, he's like, what am I gonna do when she's crazy? She's like a wild animal. Oh, I'll just make her be a wild animal.

I don't think people know that he pitches bit. Like he was like, you're gonna play a squirrel. I'm like, okay. Where are you on? You're my boss.

Okay, boss. He said like after I did, I think a squirrel or some fucking animal, he said when you did that, I could tell you were loved as a child. And I was like, clocked. Clocked. He has very, oh yeah.

Oh yeah. I remember like, oh yeah. Yeah, he has the kids would say he can read you really fast. Oh, fulfilled. Bored belle.

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Well, was it a real audition? Would you like to go to the studio? OK. It was Sharna Halpern from IO, Sharna Halpern. Sharna Halpern.

What's up with Sharna Halpern? Sharna Halpern ran Improv Olympic, a theater in Chicago, now called IO because the Olympics sued. And they changed their name. The Olympics. The Olympics.

That's right. And Sharna was the director who, in my case, put me on an improv team, said, hey, there's a woman named Tina. You're going to really like her. You guys, Sharna, I mean, Sharna, I arranged that marriage. And Sharna was in charge of so many of us and launched so many careers.

Oh, I know that. So Halpern, Sharna, got you in front of this. Sharna, she's always headed by. She knows. That's great because I just wanted to do comedy.

I couldn't get into the fucking college thing. And so I was like, oh, I'll go do it in Chicago. Stuff in Chicago. And I was kind of a bad fit. I'm like, not again.

I feel self-conscious about my limited range. It's like you kind of need a little bit of range for improv. And I was kind of not a good fit there. And I would also wear it. They would be like, I'd have to get talking, too.

It's like, hey, you're wearing a big shirt with a brain on it. I'm like, bear. Bear. Bear. I was like, I'm kind of a bad fit there.

But she was like, you're going to do that. That's an all audition. And at that time, I was like, I was 22. And I was like, that's a bad idea. Because I was doing these.

Like, you knew me. You knew me. With the dreams, openness, whatever. And I was like, I just didn't. And she was like, you're going to do that.

She's like, you're going to be great. Like, if you need help with it. And I was like, well, everyone tells you, I didn't know anything. And they're, you know, everyone's like, oh, your five minutes has to be like characters and impressions, right? So I did that.

It was obviously terrible. Like, it was just like, I was trying to do what I thought the assignment was. And I bombed really badly. All my memories are marked by my outfit. Well, I would say that you're, you like, work from the outside in.

Yeah, I do. Yeah. So actually, this is a problem in us. All right. Well, now it's time now for season six.

Inside out. Work from the inside out. I've been showing it's really hard. I would love to see you just in a neutral dress, a slip dress, hair, natural, no makeup. Yes.

Lease lowing. Hello, children. Your homework's late. Big, recurring character. Your homework's late.

Can I think? It's all right. That's amazing. But this Warren's big thing with me. He's like, just let's just, yeah.

And I'm like, for so long. OK, it's OK. Don't beat yourself up. I mean, it's a lot to ask. It's a lot.

It's hard. It's hard to show. Especially when you're playing with, it's like practicing with your backhand. Like, you're really, your forehead's really strong. And you're like, I can score.

And someone's like, now hit it with your back and you're like, now? I know. I'm sick. I'm sick. Yeah.

I'm trying. I try. Like, Ashley Padilla started two years ago. And I'm like, oh my god, the character. And like, everyone, every character she has is like an internal world.

And like, the jokes come kind of easy to her because she has. Like, inside. She knows what the character wants. And there's like, there's a motivation there. And I feel like I've been doing it all wrong for like six fucking years.

And I'm like, oh, what if the wig is weird? And then you have to come like writing the joke to so much harder because you're like forcing it from the other way around. It's outside in. So it's a little harder. I'm going to say something right now.

I think you're not afraid of the failure. I think you're afraid of the success because I actually think you can do it. I actually think you are a good actor. And you're afraid of being successful at it. So like, I'm not afraid of being an actor.

I am free. People say the thing where they're like, oh my god, you're standing up. That's so brave. I'm like, it's cowardice. It is true.

Yes, it is true cowardice. Like, I, you know, so many things even in my special are like, oh my god, you're like loose and riffing. That's all right now. You think I would riff during my, you know, coming to the, no, I have a pre-plan bit. I'm like, I'm going to find someone in the crowd wearing glasses.

And I go, why do you wear glasses to the show? So you can wear your pre-bescent. Sorry, Ron. It's OK. Well, we'll edit.

Here we go. And I'm going to take it. Show my failure. I actually have vulnerable. Oh my god, you should make your own blooper reel.

I'm going to show you my own pits. But dang, all right. Why do you wear your glasses to the show? So you could see my pre-p, you best in body bed. And you forever.

And I was like, oh, you think I thought of that on the spot? No. I wrote it down eight years ago. I've been saying it every day since sucks. I feel like once you get the confidence of knowing that you're not going to fire from the show, basically, like, which is true.

Like, you're at that point. You're at that point. I was crazy this season a little bit. Well, you might get fired from something you say, for sure, but not for lack of like, we don't need to. Right.

But yes, you might get fired. Yeah. I'd be saying, HR did want me to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm sorry for what I did and who I touched. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I have to say, like, what I find so impressive about you is you have managed to maintain yourself, your POV, and your sense of what you think is funny. And you worked within the system, i.e., like, you coming at Colin and update is a perfect example where you're like, OK, I'm going to use this structure. I'm going to hit Colin, who's like the ultimate, like, alpha, straight, white punching bag, successful punching bag. And he can handle it. Yes.

And why it's so satisfying to watch? Because to me, it also, and you do this a lot in your comedy, especially in your special, where you like play around with what I like to call the millennial threat, like this idea that someone's going to get something wrong. Yes. But people are very scared to screw up. Yes.

And I have. Of course, we all have. Yes. But you are pressuring the powers that be that they might fuck up. Right.

It's very exhilarating to watch. Because obviously, it's also talking about like, cantoroles are like misogyny and like, patriarchy and all that stuff. But it's not. It's just funny. Right.

And it's like, as mean as I'd be to Colin and Colin and McPell whatever, whatever whatever I really mean to myself. Yeah. So, you know, but even that, it's like, I got lucky on the show. Because he, I joined the show as a complete. I was shocked that I was there.

All my friends, like the inside joke, was like, OK, seriously, I'm going to show up as a waiter and say, you know, lots of water, ma'am. And I got fired. You know, that was a big joke. Right. My friends, who are apparently like, well, I've made a nice to me.

But so I was like, so I was just happy to be there. Yeah. And I wasn't expecting anything to happen. Like, I was writing sketches, but I didn't really know. I didn't even have final drafts until midnight on writing night.

Like, I didn't know about any of this. And then, so I wasn't getting any sketches on the show, but I didn't really care. But then Colin was like, why don't you come on update and do, like, yourself? Right. But I wouldn't have done that if he didn't say so, because it felt like presumptuous or something.

Right. I really was there to be like a good sport and just do whatever the job was. OK, but I just want to gently say to you that you should just take credit for that success, because even though it wasn't your original idea, perhaps, we all know the one we'll collaborate. We're all collaborating, working together, but you have to deliver. One other thing I want to ask you about, and then we'll jump off SNL, but Louie.

He's a question. Oh. Let's talk about Louisa Carien. What is there to say? Louie runs the makeup department.

And he is incredible. It's crazy. Like, let's talk about him for a second. And what he's made for you. Because prosthetics and makeup takes time.

Yeah. And I think I've seen people describe the SNL makeup experience as a pit crew. There's eight people putting on a ball cap at once. I've moderated Comic Con panels for him, where it's like it'll be a guy in a Grogusu or whatever being like, sir, what's your fastest ball cap application? And he goes, two minutes.

And you hear the crowd go, oh. Yeah. You see every X-Men character in a blue-made version. They should make it to be show like the pit. Yes.

And they should make it in the makeup room of Louie's room, because in the pit, they're like, they're like, save people by stabbing them in the heart. That's how Louie has to do makeup. Yeah, he's ripping a bird beak off and putting googly eyes in my eyes. He's get out there. But by the way, he's having so much fun.

He never says no. He's having so much fun. He films the whole thing. And it's like, we could have like 45 seconds to get me looking from Jessica Rabe. And so like Ms. Grinch or whatever.

And he's like, when something. And it's like hilarious. He gets off on the throat of it. He, like, my favorite, we did a thing where it was like, it was supposed to look like me and Michael B. Jordan got stuck on a roller coaster.

And it like our blue or like hair and mouth open. And I was like, can you make it look like I have a speculum in my mouth, like blowing my mouth out, but you don't see any plait. Like it just has to look like it's naturally like that. And he doesn't say no. Right.

Well, that's what the emergency room doctor is like, we'll see what we can do. Yeah, we'll get it. Let the baby die. I think so. And that's the same thing.

It's the same thing. And there's any takeaway. It's that what you do is as important as people that work in the universe. They're popping their pants for me. You notice?

This is another major question. If you had unlimited funds and you could make any disgusting creation, what would it be? I don't know if I want to ask you this question. Yeah, maybe let's say on SNL. So we have to say that it passes.

Because there have been that isn't this is another reason why I working outside in. I love that. I'm going to write my book about that. OK. So you have fun with your book.

I'm taking outside it. It's like it's such a can be such a hindrance because me and Dan Bullock had this idea for maybe a sketch that's like at like a facial spa or something. And when they take our sheet masks off, it just pulls the whole front of our face off. And for years, I mean, we have been like, why am I going to do that? Because when I first started the show, I was in like one sketch every six and a half months.

But now it's like maybe I'll be playing Trump right beforehand. Who knows? James, I'm coming for breakfast. So it's like if I had unlimited funds, it would be like I would be able to do something like that really fast with like I want to do my whole face off. Why do you want to?

I don't know. It's really weird. And it's not normal. It is like when you say that my brain pictures it and I'm like, Oh, Sarah, you just made her like so hard. But I know I'm but it's just it also is like there is a there's such an incredible performance artist like like you have a Cindy Sherman by you have a like you have a growth.

You have a like a lot of dance with the grotesque that's super interesting. And it's always like what level is like what does what gross is you does anything gross you out the other day? Literally, I like you know how people chew on their like sleeves or like what what fabric on my teeth like I got grazed on the train on the tooth of my own sleeve and it like gave you a chill. That's like my nails on a chalkboard is like stuff like that. Okay, but any kind of like your face peeling off your down.

All good. All good. All good. And then my last question in the S and L spaces is because we all have them. What is your S and L stress dreams look like?

Oh, I actually wrote a sketch about those. Okay, incredible. It is oh my God. I wish I could remember the sketch because it was like you when you say all night you're like I'm getting a Nobel Peace Prize. I just wrote to a classic sketch.

Yeah, they always went the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm like if I read it two years ago, I'm sure if I read it today, I'd be like what? You know what I gave me? Yes, my stress dream is always writing night. Okay.

And it's always I get to I'm at writing night and I'm the clock says it's like midnight or one in the morning and I don't have anything yet and I'm going from room to room with like my tin can being like leave with me and everyone's like no, I'm already busy already have my thing for the week and I'm going door to door down the hallway and the hallway gets longer. Barry, okay, Christopher Nolan, don't steal this. I see two. I see two. I'm human centipede.

Don't tell me with a good time. Maybe all right. And the whole just gets longer and longer and I'm like, does anyone want to write with me? And that's like that's what I'm most anxious about all the time. It's like bombing on live TV is one thing bombing trying to get someone to write a sketch with you is a fate worse than death.

I have one more stress dream. That was my first year. Okay. Which was there's a prop toilet on the floor of eight H. This I have this dream two times.

There's a prop toilet on the floor of eight H. I know it's not hooked up to any pipes. I know it's a prop and I shouldn't in any way. And everybody's looking at me like the last shot and murder on the Orient Express. There's like a shot where they're like all looking down this dead body and you see the pew of the dead body looking back at everyone.

And I see everyone looking at me going, the toilet's not hooked up to me. Why did you do that? I'm going, I know I have no idea what happened. And my young dream analyst at the time said that when you poop in a dream, it's like you're putting work out there and you're embarrassed. I would tell.

Yeah. And also you have a young gay and dream. And do you do a lot of therapy? I do many times a week. Oh, fun.

You don't seem to be working online or in purse. I'm on the couch. See you. I'm on my down the couch and the whole time. Whoa.

Like analysis. I'm doing and now that's all. Yeah. And just I just noticed recently because I don't look at my therapist and sometimes I'll be like, yeah, male or female therapist. It's not fixed.

It's a man. It's not working. A woman would fix it. This and I said something and I heard his laugh behind me and I went. He was in a, he was there.

Yeah. And I was like, stop. I don't know why. That was so immediately. I was like, I never looked at him.

And I was like, oh, my good together. You're making me think about like my stress dreams for SNL, but less about like, well, you guys, you know, like where, where can I get in here and write with people or like, oh, no, my, my shit in my toilet. You guys don't like which is your work, your workers, but mine was disappointing. Mine was about disappointing like powerful figures. It's a very Gen X-E stress dream.

So mine was always, mine was always about, I would often have it, which is, I'd hear Jenna, Russetano, as we talked about the great AD calling me. And I would realize, oh, my God, I'm not on stage. Like I'm missing my, my Q. Yeah. And I had more than once where I'd be running down from nine to eight.

And I pass everybody who's opinion I cared about. And they look at you. And they would go like this. And like, and it was everyone you could imagine it was people from my past. It was people working on the show.

It was always, of course, like everyone was just like, wow. Like you really let us down. It's like, Amy Poe, are you late for hot dog barber? Where is your pathetic butt? You're anyway.

It's so crazy. What gives us literal anxiety? Trauma is like you running to go do like a store, but in the hot dog hospital. And we're going, you're a disappointment to your father. I'm like, wait, I got to go be a captain, correct?

I'm using it. Oh, so stupid. So stupid. Okay. And the last question that, that Mitra wanted me to ask you, and she had so many good ones, was like the, and you're talking, you've talked about it a little bit, like the biggest bomb and the best and the favorite show you've ever done.

Because we talk about you must have bombed a big time. And I'm kind of fascinated about your time opening with Adam Sandler, who talk about what a like a terrific, lovely person and like nicest person, probably to be around and open for. But the audience might not have been that ready for you. He is so good way to say it. Thank you.

I'll take it away from here. It is. Okay. But sucking initiation. A computer and hand spot sucking right now.

You and Adam. There have been other cat like Fred. You guys are so menshey that it's like, I'm thinking of people who have like, how could anyone do SNL without the benches? Like I have Adam being like, you're doing great, kid. Like I would have worn my rings out from here to the Western seaboard.

If I didn't have him being like, you got it, dude. Yeah. So every time you see him, how's your mother? How's your father? How's Hanukkah?

What's going on? I love you. Wow. How are you? So menshey and like opening for him, I have bombed a lot because people have paid good money.

Be there. They have hired babysitters. They drove all the way from Hackensack. They are six drinks in. They are there to see Adam Sandler not long out of presents.

Sarah Sherman something don't know who's sweating up there. They had paid good money to see the wedding singer. Well, honestly, when I was watching your special, I was fascinated by the audience. Cause I was like this audience. So your special Sarah squirm live in the flesh live and in the flesh, live plus in the flesh.

Thank you. That was a big thing. Live plus in the flesh. And I and first of all, why is it her squirm? That was how I like when I was doing these basement shows with the tree zone stuff, it was just like the poster was like, you know, a wrote written in guts.

It was like, it was like, also was performing bands like, piss, piss, piss, moan, moan, moan. Rest in peace. A hundred. He is past. That's crazy.

But like, I was like, I don't want it to be like, and Sarah. And then there's Sarah. So like, it was like, it was like your punk persona. It was like, it was like, X-ray specs or allos cooper or something. And I like, it's very music.

It's very music. That's like the show. That's like, it was the shows that I was doing because I was like, I just, you know, it was the vibe. Yeah. And, um, did you get pressure to, like, do people say it should be Sarah Sherman?

So then when I got so, like, I auditioned for when I auditioned for us and I'll do, you know, they, oh, no, I was doing, I was just performing Sarah's form at the time. I wasn't really like thinking about it. And then when I got so that that's on all my SNL paperwork is just they found me at a show as Sarah's form. So it's still on paper. You've never been paying.

I've never been paying. I don't want to. Yeah. My alter ego. Point to another ghost over here.

And Lauren, when I got the job, Lauren called me and was like, you know, Sarah, like, Lauren's calling you. And I was like, Oh, and he was like, we think squirm is a little distracting. And I go. Say no more. And you can have one like that.

You want your parents. Yeah. Oh, my mom is still the same. It's like people will be like, hi, does the square. And she's like, no, yeah, don't call me that.

Yeah. They want to hear Sherman up. They want to hear Sherman. Yeah. And so when I was doing the special, like, not, you know, people don't know me from stand up really, because I know the tickets sales show.

Pittsburgh. They like, you know, everyone's like, it should be like Sarah Sherman, live in the flesh. But I'm like, but that's not the character. Yeah, I get it. And it really helps set like the table.

Like you said, like you set the table really fast. In fact, the table is set. It's set because it's got to be started. That the special starts with something I've never seen in a country, which is like, it's like there's like a warning of graphic violence. There is like this morning of graphic, like there's so many warnings.

There is. And you also start with John Waters. I know, which is the ultimate trigger warning. Yes, you're right. He's like, what, I've got to put a stamp on something.

You know that like there's going to be so much poop. Shocked about for sure. And also just like he's like this. I mean, he's what does he mean to you, John Waters? Like, how did you get him?

I see. I wrote him a letter. I wrote him a letter that was like I drew like everything, what's so helpful with visual art. Or like all this, it's like you can provide your own trigger warning always. So I wrote like for the posters for health trap, it's like there's a butthole.

That's bleeding with an eyeball. Like, you know what you're going to get to. Oh my God. Sarah, enough. Enough.

So I wrote him a letter and there was like intestines all over it. And I was like, do you want to like, you know, there's this, you want to play the stage manager in my, you know, special. And I was like, your scene partner will be this. And then I drew a little picture of me as like the bones and guts on the floor. And I'm like, this is going to be talking to you.

And then I put my number at the bottom of the letter and I was like, if you're interested, call me or whatever. And then I was going to end of therapy on a particularly devastating read of a day. I had just bought a loaf of sourdough bread and was literally walking down my block, ripping off his abreent eating it like an animal or a raccoon. Good job. Lauren, you do.

I got a call from a number of Baltimore area. Go to Sarah's, John Waters. I'll see you on set. What? And I said to my producers, because I had written the stage manager character.

What can we say? I'll see you on. I was like, that's an old school fun way to say it. I see you once. And I was like, do you want me to?

Is there anything you want to say? Like, and he's like, I'm not writing it. You wrote it. I'm saying, well, you wrote. And I go, that's professional.

Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have fun. She'll be like, I'll be. I've been he had about like a two hour door to door, right?

Like he was like, you got to be out of here in an hour and a half. He was being hilarious. And he was pitching jokes. He can, he can have sex. They made it in.

Yes. OK. You want some Viseen? Because my balls out. That was the John Waters original riff.

Yeah. It's like, I'm a lucky as girl in the world. That's a crazy thing. I keep going back to SNL. But you're bringing it out of me, girl.

I, if I didn't have SNL, I would be a random crazy person. But I'm going to say something. I don't find you crazy. I don't think you're crazy. That's why you're interesting.

Because if you were truly detached in like, in a way, and not to name names, but like, other sometimes performers who are kind of in your milieu or vibe bar, then it's hard. And it's kind of hard to attach. Sure. It is hard. Like, it's like, OK, they're in their own like creative world.

But like, I don't know, we're just going to kind of watch it from afar. But you, you aren't. I'm not a man of what you're doing in a way that's right. There is, but I'm like, without a SNL, would I have been able to do this crazy comedy special? But there's like a clay butt that starts out gross.

Would John Waters have agreed? Like, I don't know. But I'm like, thank God. Every people that have listened all the way to the end, I mean, there is a clay butt. It happens right in the beginning.

You don't like it. Turn it off. Turn it off. Speaking of comedy as we end, who are you listening to laughing? Because you know, you do comedy all day for a job.

Who, what do you watch to laugh? Like, what is your checkout? Like, is it a video? Is it a, are you watching movies? Are you like, what's making you laugh?

The last question, um, meet your head for you is, are you enjoying Real House of West Rhode Island? Listen, Sarah's just like, she's, she's just, she's a gas at the obvious. Yes. Did you grow up watching Soaps? Yeah, I watched show hospital, which was my favorite show on the sun.

What are you on a soap? I begged to be on a hospital. So I could bring my mom and we met Sunny current, those and sobbed for days. Yeah. OK, I just talked to Paula Pail, who also loves Soaps and has not been on one.

And I feel like Paul, she definitely. I think I feel like, are you kidding? And I was like, no, who did you play on the soap? A woman. A Russian, uh, the Russians are.

The Russians are. You know, um, I, I was talking about making laugh. I was watching home movies the other day. It's terrible laughing. Like, of your family.

No, I wish actually that would be nicer. The cartoon. Oh, how long? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Home. OK, I don't know. Home movie. It's fucking funny and it's very crude animation. My kids, brother.

Yeah. It's so funny. Dying laughing. We've got our we've got some friends in there. It's friendly.

Um, H. Sean Benjamin. OK, got it. So it's laughing and it's. Anime has become created by Brendan Small and Laura Bouchard.

You made a boss, burgers, got it, got it, got it. H. Laughing. So are you a big animation girl? No.

You're not. No. Because I bet people are like, you're like animation. Like you look like a cartoon, you fucking bug a bitch. Jesus.

Sarah. Apologize. You're so cool. Oh, is that my friend Sarah? Bad.

I'm a bad. But you're not a cartoon person. No, I because they like, they can't emote or anything. Like I love reddens to be. I'm not like laughing out loud.

Yes. So I don't know why. This is getting me. Yeah, that's good. Then I asked.

And then that's really funny. I just did. Do you know Hollywood handbook? I love Hollywood handbook. I was.

OK, I saw me. I got to Hollywood handbook. Those guys are hysterical. I saw them recently in a restaurant and asked if I could be on their pod. And I watched.

And they were like, no. They were like, we were booked. And also, I watched you on Hollywood handbook. And that bit went on forever. So it was 45 minutes.

Yeah, it's just one long bit. Just one long fat joke. And it was so I love a bit that goes on that long. I love it. And they were like, acting like they hated it.

I love it. They say like Sean will say one. I can't like I was laughing like a baby last. Like I was laughing like a baby laughing. So laughing so hard sweating through my pants.

So I threw my hat in my pants. I know I think there's some delight. And it's kind of I'm going to I'm going to bring us back. There is some kind of delight that you have that I share, which is if you get to be around like like minded and safe people and you guys are like playing and going like just on the corner and edges of things. But it's with people that are like not just like nice people that you like.

Basically, there's no greater joy because it feels like you're actually like I guess I imagine it would be like entering dangerous terrain with people who are really skilled that will take care of you. That's the closest. I mean, we're not. I just relaxed that the thought. I love that too.

I love I love a family that teases each other. That to me is a sign of intimacy. And it's a sign of safety if you're with it. Obviously, I see the right people in the right way. But like when that happens, it feels like like a special kind of magic.

And like, yeah, we're making bad jokes. Is that amazing? No, but it's safe. You can like be a little scary when it's like safe. Yes.

You're so right. Well, congratulations on being a bet. Was that an abrupt goodbye? What should we do? I'm going to put my shoe back on.

Oh, I forgot. I believe that I've had my shoes off the entire time. How did it feel? Did you feel grounded? I didn't feel bad.

I don't mind it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't mean like was I grounding during that time? Like did you were the whole time?

You were talking to me. Are you like shoes off person in your house? Do people have to do that? I like my shoes on and I like Frankenstein boots all day. Yeah.

I'm not even wearing them right now. So you think I'm a fucking liar. I'm wearing a little cute. But let's not show them for free. Yeah.

No, man. I pay for that. I pay for his job. So we're going to the only thing robots don't have, human feet. And when they show them, they have an extra toe.

And that's kind of interesting. And if you were listening at the very beginning, Sarah has a weird condition where her big toe is just a sack of bones. So if that's your kink, then you've got to go to her toe channel. And if you were only listening to the end of the podcast, weird. Why do you listen to the beginning?

You just like scrub them? And if that's your kink. Ben, we're not kink shaming you. But you might want to think about listening a podcast entire way through because it also might be satisfying. Or I like to kink shame.

I think it's weird. Like stuff that's weird. All right. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for coming.

Thank you for coming. Thank you so much, Sarah squirm. Sarah Sherman, it was so fun to talk to you. And you're so fast and funny. And yeah, what did the light?

And you know, Sarah and I talked about a lot of people that we've had the pleasure to work with. But I just want to give a little shout out again to a woman in my life who really shaped my career. And I know a lot of people in Chicago could say the same. And that is Sharna Halpern. Sharna was the creator and the person who started a theater called IO in Chicago with Del Close.

And Sharna was just one of those people that if she saw something in you, she put you in front of important people and she put you on stage. And in my case, she changed my life. So thank you, Sharna, for helping me meet most of the people who I still work with today. And for those of you that are in Chicago, Go see improv and go see it in any city, support it today and every day and support the arts. Okay.

Thanks. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for the show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisberman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite.

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