The dead of might as people sleep. That's when the spirits creep as the belt holes three dark things take power We like to call it the supernatural hour Yes as is half of this recording equipment welcome to the super natural hour. I am your host castle recording I am recording. Oh, that's all the show starts out with me bragging about all the equipment You might pay for about half of all of it about half of all of the other things right?
I really like the way I sound today. You sound very crystal there. Yeah, that sounds sexy Tim's turning me on a little bit. How are you doing?
How you doing? I like how I get the deep voice thing going right now Tim turn me gave like three seconds. I sound good in the headphones. I'm glad I'm sitting several feet away People are gonna listen to it like Tim did like this is a weird start to a paranormal show I'm gonna go an extra long cord and I'll just take this in the other room and just yeah Dan's got one You take the bathroom with you.
Oh, you get the strange echoes in there. This is my quick or anything bathroom Hey, welcome. It is the newest episode of our show and we are actually what is the name of our show Did you mention already? I didn't super not I hope you know what you're listening to by now.
That's like the first thing I said you clicked on the wrong show then well. Hey welcome welcome listener. So I am your host Castle on my right We have got Mike. Hello.
Oh, well easy there. You see their clipper I'm trying to pull up the list of I don't think anybody there were some comments on there There was a lot of comments on one of the advanced manual Facebook page And I don't know you put it on the reading or running group as well I did because I think we had any listeners some might get the judge. What were some of your favorites? I'm looking back.
We're gonna go back and look we're gonna go back and do it tally and then we'll go with some honorable mentions Okay, well, there's only nine right here on this We got by the way I better introduce and this is Tim a k-peaker what's happening a k big 60 voice Yeah, so we had someone recommend hot rod Someone recommended Angus or Rudy that was a hot rod because of his preference with porn or what his dowsing rods It's like I would be all on board for that But I just also think when I hear hot rod is that drunk guy behind the microphone? You got a love of me King Dowser Pancakes Archie and Woody Sure Archie come from there were a lot there were several for Rudy. I think you're there. Yeah a couple people said Rudy What was the woody from I have no idea?
We want not want to know that's from Woody beer woody boy. I do like I do like K.P. Brown suggestion of calling him Rodman or Rodman He's the Rodman I like to use and dye my hair like all sorts of weird colors. Well the Rodman because of the dozen Rodman I like Rudy I like pancakes Mike a k.a.
Rod. Rudy Rudy's that movie where the guy was like, you know, here's what's funny. So back in high school I'm gonna go back start to my talk about paranormal stuff. Yeah back when I was in high school I played football and actually was called Rudy several times because I was a scrawny little lightning Like a booger.
I got that back. You know what? Now that I was strong. Oh, yeah, dude.
I was like imagine this 5 8 170 I got look like a booger That is something I'd like to see. Let me play offense twice and I play defense the time. I can't make sure you're better I find really offensive. Oh good.
Yeah, I do try. Yeah for dad jokes. So let's talk business Kim enlightness on the July 20th investigation We have shirts for salad at Vance parenable calm. That's number two on the list.
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Yeah, if you go to Vance parenable calm. It's up there in the top Go get you some swag. We want to see some of our shirts rolling around Pretty awesome. Yeah, so go get by a shirt posted on the pictures on our Facebook page And besides how cool would it be to be at one of our investigations like the one July 20th wearing your own Supernatural hour or advanced parenable t-shirt Ten you want to talk about the July 20th investigation?
Supernatural hour will be hosting along with advanced paranormal services of an investigation at the Benson Grist Mill on July 20th Starting at 8 30 p.m. Going till about 1 30 p.m. I am I go as long as I want stop and start doing that red bull thing again red bull I get the red bull girls there for you Tim and one guest. Okay, I am Yeah, so one 30 a.m.
Benson Grist Mill for those of you don't know that is it's really large venue with a lot of haunted buildings It's another one of spices that we usually get a lot of decent activity without really having to try It just kind of depends on where we're at at the venue at the time But we usually do get quite a bit of activity tickets for that event We are doing single passes for $35 if you buy two you will be able to get a discount and get those at 50 One of my favorite things about Benson Grist Mill as a whole as far as that venue goes is it so big and it's kind of like a little pinder village I mean there's a cabin for the blacksmiths area. There's like a loom shop where there's a loom setup I want to say there's what 10 to 15 buildings on the property Tim easy, you know one is a great be huge three-story mill There's a smaller mill, but I mean you can get a pretty sizable amount of people in there and rarely come across any other people I investigate I mean go across little creek that's there out to the schoolyard. There's some ruins there the venue is huge I'm like some other venues and I don't want to discount other venues But I'm gonna pick on family tree for a minute which I absolutely love family tree But it's a small restaurant. You've really got three main areas to investigate And you can only get a handful of people in there before you're kind of stumble all over each other Benson Grist Mill you can get people in there and not come across anybody for a while because you can put five people in this building five people in that building So 20 people at Benson Grist Mill you can basically not run into another soul during your entire investigative time We're into souls just not living ones.
Right. Yeah, so that should be a good investigation. July 20 tickets are available At events pardnormal calm there on the main page. We look forward to seeing everybody there And again, we're doing a bit of a discount if you buy tickets and pairs so we hope to see everybody there We might switch things up a little bit because we usually do Groups where we kind of rotate around make sure we get the chance to see the entire venue There is talks that we might switch it up a little bit and just kind of do a free for all from the get go depending on what you guys Want to do so we'll kind of run that past you when you get there But there's there's a possibility it's all gonna depend on what you guys are more comfortable doing if you want to just do a free for All or if you want to do like guided groups And we will have some experience that guides there So if you're new or don't have investigate or kind of bring a friend to have somebody kind of show them the ropes You can certainly team up with an investigator and you know, they'll kind of leave the investigation show you how all right Investigations Mike what do we got you know, it's been really quiet Got nothing you got nothing since our last podcast.
No, I heard some stories of things going on Actually, it was a Scottish festival this weekend and I was told about a fire station that has a they're pretty sure it's a firefighter They had passed away while they were there and We're working on trying to get into that they wanted us at one point to come in and some things fell through But they hear lots of you know heavy boots the guy used to wear really heavy boots And so they hear him clomping behind him. They see lights go through walls various different things but Now there's there's not into that yet and honestly we haven't had a lot of residential calls that I'm aware of so Going on your house. I've got a residential that I'm sort of working on I'm waiting for the client to get back to me with some more information But from what I've heard that's going on there until we can actually get out and just going off of what I've been told so far But we do have a family that refuses to go in their upstairs It all be none of them sleeping upstairs all afraid of it apparently birds are just randomly flying into the house smacking and Breaking their necks outside. Oh, we've had that before and that's usually a really bad sign So I'm trying to get more information from the family.
I'm still working on kind of coordinating things But I know that there's some video that I was supposed to be getting here soon Showing up some of the activity that's going on the house and how their three-year-old daughter is basically talking to someone or something that's not there Hey Mike, thanks for the But I recently did a four-day investigation being that I am I guess the Prince Goblin is that what they call me? I don't remember the bearded one. I think that's not like that but Radio Ronan had a Investigation of the Fordotism of the term museum for people that are goblins on their patron and I was able to attend one of the nights And it started off kind of cool I invited our good friend Shane from River of a Panerongle as my plus one And it was fun to actually get us it down and do an actual investigation with him instead of having to as much as I Love doing the public on the leading groups. It's just every now and then it's always nice to just be able to go and do our thing I think he's a good guy.
You don't know Shane. Yeah, he's awesome He actually brought me and I'll show you guys after we're done recording But he actually brought me a baggy full of that cell night from the spiral daddy Oh, that's cool. I actually really like Shane. I like their group of that's not a best problem.
That would be our group The River Panerongle fantastic group of guys we've interacted with them several times Fantastic group. I was actually a bit disappointed. I didn't go in that investigation because I was scheduled to work both nights So I sent Mrs. Castle and a plus one to that investigation.
Who was my wife? Thanks again, Mrs. Castle for taking her I got to stay home and babysit instead. So Tim what all the morning should tell the way we can actually talk about the investigation Just kidding.
Well, haven't so Shannon and I we started out We kind of knew this was gonna happen because people get kind of star struck when they see trying to just follow him around like they're lost puppy dogs Totally fine. That's how you want to investigate do it. Um, we started off everyone was kind of in the the good building quote unquote The one with the library in it that you have the Navy room and whatnot everyone started in that room or in that building So shame and I took off and went straight to the poker room and started doing investigation We can kind of feel there was a spirit there We saw like some Tricks of light like you know, we could feel the spirit kind of pacing around the room and every now and I could see like walking from the Little bit of light that was in the room, but it wasn't very active. We're really responding to us too much So we kind of we packed up and we went to upstairs where we actually ran into a mrs.
Castle and she was doing her own investigation Said she met the spirit name. I want to say Anna, but I could be wrong on that No, what's the halo's life's name? Eva that's what it was. I mean, we weren't talking to Eva Braun, but we were talking to a spirit name Eva And you know, I kind of asked her how she got that and she told me that came up on this app that she had and she was Confirmative using Gosh, me to pro and she was able to do this investigation on her own She was actually able to figure out you know where the spirit came from why she was there and like what objects She was attached to I guess they have this sweetheart's display now where they show some of the Stuff that you know couples during the wartime had and did and some of their pendants and stuff like that So she was actually able to figure out which item the spirit came with and then I was able to kind of build on that and find out that The there was a picture of a man and young woman a young woman young man probably in the early 20s We found out that the woman in the picture was actually Eva's sister her twin sister and We were able to figure out that the twin She always kind of she saw whatever Eva liked and she made sure she got it You know She always made sure she was first and she got everything that she always wanted including that this guy that Eva I guess had met and was like head over hills for her sister her twin sister came in and like stole from underneath her and What a throw up posture so hard what's what was interesting is in the picture There's a picture of the girl wearing this like bugle on her dress like a pin and we actually were able to find that pin Was also hanging up in the display as well and then we were able to figure out where the twin sister I'm like when we never to get her name, but we're able to figure out which item that she came with that she was attached to as well And it was just this way I got this overwhelming feeling of This this twin sister the others the other I believe she was the older one She had this overwhelming feeling of like like satisfaction like she was glad she knew what she was doing was kind of a jerk Us thing to do to her sister bitch.
Yeah, but it was like she she was so proud of herself and all the things that she like stole from her sister Like she was so you know in love with herself for doing that and I'm just like okay enough of you and we went away Um, we did get a chance to bow open up the Navy room for us. We went down in there. We're using the SB 7 We didn't really go whole lot at that point It was kind of you know most of it was kind of benign and not really we were really getting a lot of activity Until we went outside she went up for a quick smoke and when we came back in we were just sitting in the main barracks the the good building where the library is and we were right there like it's kind of in a giant U-shape and on The left side there met Cronkite and his date were in the library Talking and Shane and I were just like right there in the main entrance And we were like the only ones with the building and we hear this loud crashing noise in the Navy room And we know no one's down there because no one's supposed to be there like the I know the ladder wasn't put back So people couldn't get in the way But we knew at this point everybody was over in the other building and was just the four of us in there So I had this loud crashing noise Shane and I went to investigate and saw that there was a pile of like folders and boxes and stuff That had been knocked over onto the floor that weren't there before when we were investigating and both of us had this very overwhelming feeling of like this really negative energy and I was kind of able to push it into the Navy room and we were trying to keep it distracted We were just talking to it trying to figure out You know what why was there like working from because the whole night like everything was going just fine There wasn't really anything negative and all some this thing just showed up And so I was asking the questions like you know Who do you serve who's your master and first it was like no one and then was like I serve myself and It was funny because I have this little apple my phone call the eye of this which is actually made by the same people make the actual obvious It's digital dowsing and when I first turned it on because I just plain around with it I'm using that much but when I first turned it on and set it down when I was talking to the sanity the first one that popped up on the screen was Legion Oh lovely and so Shannon and I were sitting there we were we had the Xbox running and we can hear That's how we knew some of the responses it was I was getting when I was asking like who do you serve it? Say myself and or no one and it was actually kind of responding to us But I kept asking that you know like why are you here?
Where did you come from? What's your intention? And it just kind of kept like not really I'm like we knew what was there and we can see it and we could feel it pacing back and forth Because there's two boards that come out of this Navy room and I was like you know I was standing in front of one who was standing in front of the other and we can kind of sense it pacing back and forth He could hear it walking he could hear its footsteps Back behind us. There's no stairs that go upstairs and I kept hearing like whispering and walking up there So I went to check that out like I heard women whispering and I went to check it out.
There's no one up there I even yelled out I'm like hey is there anyone here and there was zero response I'm like okay So I went back down to her shame was and again It would start up by here the whispering and like footsteps up the stairs I said he kept hearing the footsteps in the Navy room and so I texted Mrs. Castle I'm like you guys all right everything fine like yeah, we just got to the poker room by ourselves I'm like okay, well, I'm like a type three to show up over in the Navy room from when I come talk to it So they came over and immediately like as soon as I got there the energy just shifted We can fill it like I had left and about a minute later one of the one of the other goblins came to me with Her plus one like we need to help something's not right and I'm like, okay I thought something like this was gonna happen That's why I was kind of keeping tabs on that entity because I just didn't feel something was right I felt like it was there for a specific reason once I lost kind of where was that is when this girl kind of got a little bit of an Attack I was able to I got my crystals out I got my Smush ray out and I was able to kind of go through using the crystals and I was able to break any attachments I was funny as I found out I guess at the beginning of the night She was saying her back started hurting and she was having some lower back problems And so they started handing her crystals and I was doing the energy work Breaking those attachments that any cord journey attachments that these words are trying to make when I started breaking those that back pain went away and I remember I've seen Brandy do this before when she's a cleanse people and I For whatever reason I just kind of felt prompted to tell this person to turn around I kind of started with my hands at the back of her head kind of Just pushing the energy down and out through her shoulders I'm just kind of like sweeping it off of her and what that does is it kind of helps realign the shockers and it's getting in Kind of the roots of your shockers and it's it's clearing all that negative energy out And it was funny because I've never done that before I've seen peaches do it And I can visualize exactly what you're talking about because I've seen it done more than a few times And I just I felt a strong prompting to do this and it's not something I've ever done before but I did it And it was funny because like when she when I was done the girl turned around and she's like that was the weirdest thing I've ever felt in my life So when I know I did it and it worked It was just it was kind of fascinating for me because I always see all the different little things that just I've learned to do over time Like the when I start learning more and it's just like I don't fully understand sometimes like why I'm being prompted to do something But I know it's working and I know it's helping people yeah, those do work That's actually called it's actually a massage technique that I learned a massage But it's called a rr strokes. Yeah, which is exactly what it is So I'm not a master. Do you want to elaborate more on or strokes?
No, I do or no I just don't know it's a legit thing. It's been a long time since I went to the massage school Okay, I was wondering if you knew more about it. No, I just wanted to interrupt. I just wanted to inject somewhere Okay, I'm still here guys.
Hey, I just find out my equipment massage going. I know what's happening after it on recording Massages for everyone. I'm not be weird at all. I don't have my table I've there's one right here.
I have some of those sturdy. Oh, no, I don't know where to go from here I'm just got weird. Yeah overall though. It was pretty exciting I mean, it was a really rainy rainy rainy stormy night It was a dark and stormy night was a dark and stormy night in the middle of the summer Did you feel like the did you feel like the electricity the air at the storm kind of amped up?
Oh, I know I love it when it when it rains and when you got the lightning because they're able to feed off of that energy and it makes Things a little more active. I'm sorry. I always love investing when there's a storm But yeah, if you want more information on that particular investigation if you listen to radio run and they go into more detail because They were there both nights and they have more to talk about than other than just what I experienced Yeah, I'm actually really disappointed wasn't able to go because it sounds like it was a really good investigation Let's talk Sasquatch that is our topic for the night the Sasquatch I'm looking at him. Oh, it's just Tim.
So who wants to start our discussion? I'm on the Sasquatch But first off, let me just kind of go around the table real quick This is I think probably one of our first attempts at diving into cryptozoology. Yes, it is Tim real quick Just general reveal. What is your opinion on Sasquatch?
Well, I can tell you what I used to believe and I know I've mentioned this on the show plenty of times because we actually had someone kind of call me out on Facebook Saying I thought you guys didn't believe in Sasquatch and up until we started doing the research Uh, yes, that was right true. I didn't believe in Sasquatch I thought it was all just kind of the crazy people running around through the woods However, after doing some research and seeing some of the evidence that people have presented There are some really convincing evidence out there I've seen some pretty cool stuff and some of these documentaries and some of these Uh websites that I've gone through and I am a firm believer. I believe that there is something out there Uh, known as Sasquatch or Bigfoot. There are some sort of species out there and personally like I know I posted on the radio run on goblins page asking people who wanted to come Sasquatch and with the three of us There was actually a good response to that.
By the way, we forget it too deep. Save your theory on Sasquatch till the end of the book. I will save my theory, but my thing is is like I was kind of doing that as a teaser for the show because this we're talking about Sasquatch But there was an overwhelming response of people that were like, hell yeah, I'll go So I I may attempt to actually put together something I don't know much about where to go But uh, I might try to put together a smaller group of girls Sasquatch and I'm going to ask why something how you went to this? So ironically, I don't know that I actually made a connection on Facebook with somebody who was actually a Facebook or a uh, uh Runs a Facebook page about Bigfoot sightings and stuff here in Utah So we're gonna get with him.
We're gonna set it up. We're gonna go So and here's my thought with that by the way. Yes, when I got diving into this not how you felt him out now He felt like there's a lot of material tonight might be part one of a few episodes We won't do them all in real, but there's not material that I think we can easily come back to the topic Um, at least a couple more episodes, uh, just based purely on all the stuff So Mike, what is your thought on the whole Sasquatch thing? Well, I've heard that he's baking his hairy and he lives with the Henderson's Just kidding.
That's all I did to reason why I just watched Henry Harry and the Henderson's inside. It's a terrible movie It's a great show. It's got John Lithgow and he is just awesome. The whole show is awesome No, I you don't we don't want my theory on or you just want to know where I stand.
It's what I believe just where you stand. We'll save your theory for later I really think I'm an open-minded skeptic. Okay, so I So it's a definite maybe it's a definite maybe I think there's definitely something to it I don't think I mean there's a lot of things that get hoaxed right like we talked about the cross circles with the aliens And there's a lot of people that would make things, but I don't think all of those are hoaxes and so this is just the same I don't think a lot of these Bigfoot sightings and especially you see some of these video things and it's like that's kind of hard to I mean I guess I don't know. I think there's definitely something there.
There's something to it I don't think it would get that far off the ground over all the years and this goes back hundreds of years too This isn't just like something that popped up in the 70s You know like like the clown phase with the scary clowns. No, this wasn't the 50s This goes back even way back into the little you know native americans, you know and beyond So I think there's definitely something something there as far as exactly what it is or what he or she or they look like It's up to it's up for debate Tim that's a terrifying picture that you're showing us that is actually Would it looks like it's wood? So this is actually the we can post this on the facebook and everyone will see it But this is actually a still from a video and you actually can see this particular Sasquatch You can see him moving and you can see him blinking and everything like that The documentary that this picture is from or the guy that took this picture He has a show on Netflix right now came about two years ago. It's called discovering bigfoot That guy has some of the most convincing evidence i've ever seen So let's kind of start at the beginning so real quick, uh and I kind of hit a couple topics And I guess I should probably put where I stand um I've always been kind of an open-minded skeptic with things But I kind of have that like little kid kind of looking for Santa Claus I hope it's real kind of attitude.
Santa's real by my kids. Yes, santa's real santa's real partial Where are kids listening to our show? You make a very good point as well Tim You know I always kind of had that hopeful, you know, I wish it was real because that'd be really cool if it is Um kind of attitude, but you know after doing some of the research for this particular episode There's a lot of compelling evidence out there. I've got some theories.
I'll touch on my theories near the end of the episode Um mind may be totally unique. They may be in line with a discussion I had with Mike a few weeks ago Um, we'll see what that theory is but Sasquatch has actually been documented for hundreds of years Um, and it's kind of interesting where there's documentation of Sasquatch You've got Asian Yeti. There's hundreds and hundreds of documented sighting of Yeti Which is considered to be a form of Sasquatch Over hundreds of years. Um There's a considerable number in North America and it's kind of interesting because when I did the research I saw a few maps that kind of had it's kind of a pin map and for those who don't know what pin map is There's something wrong with you because pin maps are pretty common, but uh, basically it's a map where there's a dot where there's been a sighting And if you look at the pin map It shows the United States, Canada And there's a bajillion sightings on the pacific northwest All the way down to california There's pretty much nothing through Nevada and western Utah And then once you get kind of the wasatch mountains the pin map starts to light up again Until you get kind of to the midwest and the great plains and then there's nothing again Then we start getting to the Appalachians and florida and kind of those mountainous regions Uh, the pin start kind of popping up again, but most sightings of Sasquatch are seen in heavily wooded areas Um, and either heavily wooded areas or kind of high altitudes seems to be kind of the prevalent places In fact, there's one place called i believe it's chili act or chillin up to I don't have that one.
Yeah, anyway, it's a place in British Columbia chill or something or other Where they actually had three sightings within the course of a day Uh, a sheriff's deputy actually has driven down the road Uh, saw Sasquatch kind of freaked out got out of there Uh about a mile later, uh, semicruct driver also saw Sasquatch Uh, and then a few days later, uh, another kid just about a mile mile and a half away saw evidence of another Sasquatch So I mean three sightings all there together in a short period of time Um Sorry, I put my nose- Sasquatch probably got fired from the Sasquatch because they're pretty pretty Reclusive They don't like to be seen and so I mean as we expanded are seen but yeah If you say one of them see three times in one day, that's kind of Yeah, I think it's two in one day and then one was a few days later Tipped out of the club And there Sasquatch are considered to be very elusive. Um now they're often described as large extremely tall hairy men Uh, there's been evidence Tim might be a Sasquatch Almost I mean they're usually between seven to nine feet tall. I'm only six and a half feet Yeah, but you do have reddish brown hair in your chug That'd be a baby Sasquatch Tim would be like a dwarf Sasquatch It'd be a juvenile Sasquatch What would he call it was like a mini pin? Tim would be a mini-squatch Why's that said roughly six to nine feet tall?
So I mean they'd be very No, I could be a Sasquatch You could be a mini-squatch Maybe where the lady's watch is I think I don't think I'm elusive though Now what's interesting is they found a some cave art in British Columbia about five It was created about 500 AD that showed a Sasquatch on the cave art Now the hard thing was Sasquatch stuff kind of looking into it There's been a lot of hoaxes though too And so it kind of gets tough to pinpoint the actual sightings versus the hoax sightings Um that went up in the area British Columbia where they had a tour group kind of near Banff National Park in Canada Uh, they're on a tour boat kind of going down a river And they saw this kind of big blonde Sasquatch tool in through the woods And everybody's up through their cameras taking pictures and hey Sasquatch what's going on? Uh, and it's kind of big to do about it I mean it's on the news But as I got into some research it just so happens that a local business Uh had been advertising the day before that happened to have a big blonde Sasquatch Which was like dude in a suit to kind of advertise our business And so I'm sure it was a business stunt to Hey, we paid you a hundred bucks to come dressed as a Sasquatch in front of Billy Bob's restaurant Now go take your Sasquatch suit, Sasquatch suit that English was hard And go tool through the woods and just kind of drum up some uh, some publicity for us I'm sure it worked And so that's kind of the hard thing and it's kind of the same thing a little bit with uh, You know ghost investigations There's enough hoax videos out there on youtube that it kind of becomes hard to Pick between what drill and what's you know fake And so it's kind of hard of damages the field so to speak when uh, You've got a lot of fakes and they're rolling around and so there's been evidence of fake So what are some uh evidence of Sasquatch activity that you guys found in your research? I was telling you this documentary watch on Netflix. Um, this guy had I mean he goes out I think he's up in Montana somewhere and some random remote location And he'll go and he'll camp out for like a week or two at a time Uh trying to find Sasquatch And there was one of his one of his pieces of evidence I thought it was really compelling Is it's the middle of the night.
He's got his uh, night vision camera rolling And there's in front of him you can see this large pine tree and in the pine tree There's a little bit of a clearing And you can see someone or something standing in this clearing And um, it's Uh, like I said, he's got his night vision going so I mean this thing It doesn't seem like it's really aware that he's there But you kept hearing like like these low guttural growls coming from all around him And at one point eventually like you see the dude just get laid out You see this branch not a small branch either This big ass branch comes flying out of nowhere and knocks this guy down I didn't ask what to think I'm going home Yeah, he totally got this branch thrown at him And he got up about him. I mean, I don't know how long it was down But he was reenacting or going back to the same spot about an hour later And that same clearing in the tree You can see there's nothing there and he actually went up to it and you know He was standing in the same spot He put his arms straight up in the air and he still wasn't reaching the top of like where this Things had would have been he had to jump and he was still only getting to like where his shoulders were So this thing had to have been at least nine feet tall We need to pause right here and have a quick discussion So all three of us have been turned on investigations now for several years And I think a common question to all of us can relate to is isn't it scary? Don't you get scared? How do you sleep at night?
Those are all frequent questions that I know I get on a regular basis I'm sure you guys get them on a regular basis On a regular basis And my response is is that really unless I invite them to spirits can't hurt me And I take some steps so they can't follow me home So really I've had some kind of scary moments during investigations where people get attacked But really goes to the scene he's not scary Something lays me out with the branch in the forest and can kill me Yeah, the minute I get laid out with the branch I am done Well, it's funny is that when it comes to it from what I understand with the Sasquatch They're not really aggressive They just got away to mount the branch what are you talking about? I guess yes But for the most part they more try to scare people away from their land They'll go growl in this case throw a branch at them or throw rocks But it's more to scare people away So they'll leave but they don't like falling like I mean How big these things are if you know they're nine feet tall They're these massive like giant gorilla man things Or they could easily like rip your arms off and like tear you apart in seconds I would rather have the branch thrown at me Yeah, probably You're talking about how they're aggressive not aggressive All I can think of is the Jack Links commercials where they're messing with Sasquatch And how he's just like said you feel bad for him Because he's like stop it They're very from what I understand they're very private They keep it themselves and they kind of want to keep it that way So they'd rather just kind of ward you away scurry away from their territory Than to I mean they said they could fully come at you and probably just you know Snapping back in seconds They really wanted to but they more just kind of scare people away from their land Do you think they might be afraid of us more than we are of them? No, not at all Yeah, I don't think they fear us in the slightest I think from the evidence that I watched or gathered the research I did I think they're highly intelligent creatures I think I think they just they enjoy their privacy and they want to be left alone So kind of through my research a few things I saw that seem to be kind of Consistent with Sasquatch everywhere is that those who investigate Sasquatch usually I found that tree knocking is kind of a universal way to I don't know if communicates right word with Sasquatch But what people will do is I'll go out where they think a Sasquatch is at Get a big branch and they'll whack on a tree like you know Certain number times they'll like on whack on a tree twice and usually somewhere out in the woods They'll get a second whack or they'll get you know a repeat of what they whack. Okay, that would freak me out.
That'd be cool See Mike's with me. I think that's what kind of freak me. Yeah, it's like yeah, this is my question I'm sorry, but you do the same thing when you're ghost hunting you like hey I'm gonna knock on the walk and you like I'm gonna kick my ass This is like a mating call for like a ghost could hurt you This is a mating call I can see you Like Castle said you can do things protect yourself and think you can make so they can't follow you home But honestly if these guys are like nights, you know eight feet tall I'm only five eight with short fat little legs. I can't run that fast.
I don't want to invite him over Just don't shoot at them. It's like I said everything That's why we shot is to shoot at them It's like I said everything that I've seen is they more try to just kind of scare you and shush you away from their land They don't really come at you fall on like with intent to kill like Mike said It's like a mating call I can see taking my kind of Sasquatch hunt him walk on a tree a few times Me find a mic and I later crying and I sing it's not a mess by a Sasquatch Never talk about deliverance I would I would be scared to death If I heard something like that come back, that's just like a pretty distinct. We're okay with it if it goes does it? Yes Zero sense to me well you're also six foot Sasquatch you hold your own you'll probably be on a lost child or something Without my dear rifle now So uh tree knocking is one of the signs when they're looking for Sasquatch They're I think those vocalizations which I thought was kind of fascinating They'll go out and eat remote areas in like Canada or the Pacific Northwest where they uh have a lot of these things I'll go in the light do these howls and again They'll get these similar howls back through the forest not kind of like tree knocking They're like whoop whoop whoop Yeah That's my drink tone Yeah again mike crying on the side of the road under what do you guys walk me to my car when we're done with this?
How much have you had to drink sir? Done Like a lot of the echo so now another thing uh besides the the vocalization and tree knocking is and you mentioned earlier Tim's the rock throwing there's been numerous occasions like this kind of interesting there's some video that I watched during my process of Been research where there's a researcher in Canada. He's actually a scientist I mean he's a doctor at a 10s university and does like actual primate research But he's in this remote cabin up in Canada and they've got a night vision camera roll and they're having rocks big rocks thrown at the cabin from the forest Um, there's another account from a gentleman This had been probably the early 1900s who was in a canoe in a lake in the Pacific Northwest And kind of hurt some rustling up in the trees in the bushes And as you got closer he could kind of see a black man shape up in the up in the bushes and also in these large head shape Her head size rocks are getting hurled at him trying to basically sink his canoe Um I'm with Mike man. I'm never gonna hike or hunting without her.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is It's you encroached on somebody's land. They're gonna do what they kind of protect their land But obviously they're not out to like you know take over Now what else is interesting though is this group of researchers I kind of watched them and they're somewhat They did but they found in these areas these weird tree structures that are clearly they're not natural They're built where basically it's almost like a teepee made in the forest. I saw those those are actually really cool looking There was one that I saw where the tree. I mean these are not small trees either No, they're about this is a big round is a I don't know bigger than an upper arm.
Yeah, I mean these things are and they're tall At least 20 30 feet tall these things are huge probably about four to six inches. Yeah, not long but diameter Yeah, I mean there's huge trees and when one of these structures I saw the tree was actually placed in there upside down So the base of the tree was actually up in the air And then the tip of the tree was down towards the ground and this was like one of the last parts of the structure that was put together So it's not like this is naturally formed You know the trees don't just upward themselves and put themselves upside down in a different tree What's interesting is these primate researchers researchers who are actually doing this said that this is actually kind of a common Trait among primates that they will do this to either kind of form a nest kind of an area to sleep They said these this was pretty too small for something size of a Sasquatch But there's other primates that exhibit similar behaviors To build these structures, but they weren't entirely sure what it was for but basically said it's not uncommon on primates to do this Which I thought was kind of fascinating just the random Structures out in the other woods that like you said the one trees upside down It just doesn't make sense. It clearly didn't happen on its own I know another thing that they kind of mentioned was And I think this is used as a kind of a form of kind of marking the trail So they know which way they've gone and whatnot But they were showing trees that had been broken Uh snapped in half basically and the snap on these trees are a good 89 feet in the air. They're not down anywhere on the ground Like if if a person did it, they would have had a climb, but it's like it's such a perfect break It's like, you know, if you took a tiny twig and snapped it, that's what it was like And so where these trees are broken They're all pointing like the same direction they're all broken the same way in different parts throughout the woods And again, it's just it's not something that naturally occurs where a tree is just snapped in half like a toothpick You know eight or nine feet up in the air in the tree And what's interesting with uh saswech two is they find a lot of footprints And this is hard to celebrate against Hoakster because they've had a lot of people who they approved or hoaxes Where people have made these great big gigantic feet strapped them to their actual feet and then trumped through them wasn't the forest But they found ones that are They can't explain that seem a little bit more natural.
There were some back in the early I want to say it was 40s or 50s that they found up on the Himalayas Which were clearly not made by somebody The footprint throughout 16 inches long had a ginormous big toe The toe next the big toe is also equally ginormous than the three smaller toes Now the three scientists who were examining this were all convinced that this is actually real Uh, just because of where it was at and the secondary huge big toe You know their thought was they weren't sure if that was actually anatomically a big toe Or if that was like a pathology like it was a disease like that toe had been injured or had something going on with it They thought you know, so i'm just gonna hoax this they're not gonna have a second huge big toe Um, it's it's just too random for somebody to fake that part of the footprint Um, and so the researchers these scientists who you know study primates were all relatively convinced that these footprints from the Himalayas were actually real Um, along with that they've also found uh reddish brown hair As several locations that they kind of attribute to possibly possibly being Sasquatch Um, you know, and this is stuff that Sasquatch researchers look for they look for these, you know, reddish brown hairs They look for for these footprints as part of the evidence of what they're doing. Um, are you guys familiar with the big foot of Bluff Creek incident? Okay, this is one i'm guessing i know for a fact you guys have seen the video And i'm guessing that 99 percent of our listeners is the classic one from the 70s right the kind of big big From like the 50s 60s, but it's basically kind of shows a really dark female Sasquatch walking through the forest stops kind of looks at the camera And then just keeps kind of tooling off into the into the woods Now it was again caught on video. Um, that's the one Tim just found the picture of it.
How did you know it was a female? Let me get it that so uh Basically the researchers these researchers who are looking into bigfoot again, they're all actual scientists working universities their primate specialists They spent a lot of time examining this video and couldn't conclusively This video has never been debunked. Um, you know, obviously they can't prove that it's real But at the same time they're able to disprove it real either if that makes sense Um, and in the video the actual Sasquatch looks to be anatomically correct And this is one thing that the researchers were kind of uh, lent the video some credibility is that whoever was doing this if they were We're gonna hoax it. They thought it was strange that they would take the effort to Uh, make an anatomically correct female Sasquatch.
Um, just that's not the kind of thing you think about uh, when you're Hosing something used to it's a Sasquatch, you know, you don't think to go tack on twig and berries or you know some rest or what You just put on Sasquatch to go to trampol through the forest. Um So basically, um, roger Patterson was the guy who actually filmed this now There's kind of some controversy with roger or patterson. Um roger Patterson was an inventor He'd never really ever held any kind of real real job and never really wanted one. Um, he was kind of an artisty type who just was kind of went for that big payoff He was gonna invent the next big thing and cash in on it and just kind of be rich was kind of his uh, mo Um, so he can really get interested in Sasquatch and start to make these excursions into the woods Uh, now before he actually caught this on video, um, he actually wrote a book on Sasquatch Um, and then borrow a bunch of money to actually make a big foot movie.
Uh, he was gonna make a film on bigfoot Um, anyway, one of his excursions he claimed to have actually gotten up and caught this on film. Um, now the controversy is obviously The video is pretty good for what it is. And like I said, no one's ever been able to actually debunk the video Um, but the same token on severnal to prove the video either Unfortunately kind of his background, you know of wanting to cash in quick money, make a big foot movie, write a book on bigfoot Uh, kind of cast some doubt on his Well, that is kind of ironic, you're gonna write a book on it and say i'm gonna start making a movie about it all sudden Well, there's one right there, where's it there? That's just convenient Right, but what was interesting those these research is these uh These primate researchers actually said the gate and stuff of the primate that he caught or the bigfoot that he caught Was consistent with You know the primate investigation said done and so they're actually a little more inclined to believe that There's something to this video versus it just being a hoax that they couldn't just out now say hey, this is a hoax Uh, and the research I did it was actually about five or six researchers and kind of going through looking at together and I think four out of the Of the six were on board with you.
There might be something to this the other two were kind of like, yeah, yeah, I don't know Um, so there have been bigfoot sightings all over the place. There's one in florida Well, there's been multiple sightings in florida. I've never been to florida Uh what they call the skunk ape and they've actually caught pictures of the skunk ape and it's kind of known for its terrible smell Um, and don't you point me to him? Actually, how did they thank you?
Um, you're welcome They they called it the skunk ape and they've actually caught some pictures of it and if you go google it google the skunk ape and look at the images To me it kind of looks like a big orangutan Now one thing that these researchers are saying is that you know florida is really tropical warm kind of climate And people have let all kinds of weird pets loose in florida I know they're like over on with pythons which and some other species that people have just kind of let loose Um, and so the researchers thought that maybe somebody's released a small colony of apes or a ring of tanks or something that have just kind of on their own Or reproducing but they're just in small enough numbers that they're not seen Um So let's talk about some other incidents of sasquatch. Are you guys familiar with the Jenny Chapman case? No So back in 1941, uh, there's a woman named Jenny Chapman who lived up in the woods in the pacific northwest Um, she's up there with her husband and a couple of kids Now her husband worked for the railroad so he was kind of away during the day But they were kind of just kind of cabin their kind of homesteading trying to you know claim this property Um, so her husband is not working for the railroad and she was home alone with the children They're hanging some laundry, um, and she heard something through the woods She heard you know some kind of crashing through the branches Uh heard some howling and then basically saw a large black, uh, hairy creature kind of approach where she was at she Said it was clearly not a bear. Um You know, she's familiar with bears.
She recognized bears said it was definitely not a bear Um, so she actually fled into the woods with her children Uh, when she saw this creature and headed towards town, um, later that night jenny's husband came home to the house And found some reddish some long reddish brown hair stuck on the lintel of the doorway Um, and found that the entire house had been ransacked on the inside Apparently they had like a 300 pound fish barrel that had been tossed over and all the fish were missing out of it Um He ended up going to find his wife in town and they never returned to the cabin again They just abandoned it because of how traumatic and terrifying experience was Uh, with what they believe was a Sasquatch Um Kind of talking to get about yeti though again, um So yeti have been witnessed in the hemileas, uh tearing apart goats and yaks with their claws Um now primates aren't known for having claws, um, and so whether they're just kind of scavenging kills from other predators or if they actually have claws I don't know i've never seen yeti, um, I have a long fingernails. I've seen humans with those Yeah, me too. Yook. Um But like with uh the red hair found in the Chapman case, um in the hemileas yeti hair and yeti bones are like revered as kind of relics Uh by the people the indigenous peoples in those areas.
Um, so they actually took some of these uh Yeti or a yeti bone and gave it to like local authorities to test it for dna Um, but immoracul phlegat lost uh it was later revealed that the authority they gave it to is worried that they would look stupid Uh for testing this bone. I kind of think like stupid for not testing the bone could be interesting here What was whether it was a yak bone or if there was actually something to it? Um How long was this because like with with all the dna testing they can do now? I mean, you know, I don't know when the date wasn't I tried to do that But yeah, the thing is is every year we get just that much better at doing dna stuff and I'd be curious to know uh What since the 23 and me and see what they say The shiades related to mike cities from scannonadian Yeah, it was just shaking his head that way clearly Haven't seen that video of the identical twins sending off their slobs to four different of those dna testing sites Not come back just a little bit different.
Oh, uh, every website was different You know, I gotta say though, uh, not to go too far off topic here But I actually sent my DNA into one of those my parents got me a kit for christmas And the genetics were consistent with what my family history shows a lot of scottish History show these identical twins weren't even related in some of these tests. So When was brazilian when was canadian? Yeah, anyway, so mine was all like your mine's all uh in norwegian Your mother wasn't a hamster and your father can spell it out of areas. No, I slandic DNA and british isles dna was where all my kid mine came from but anyway, um, I can google that I could tell you that you spit on a bucket So kind of some of the theories from some of these scientists were that maybe uh yeti were and Bigfoot were like jagandapithecus, which is a giant ape that they thought was extinct.
They think there might be some still around Um, they also had another account from russia In the late 40s. They thought there's some rebels in a cave and so they sent down some russian troops And they actually went to the cave and got attacked by what was essentially a Sasquatch They actually shot it and basically discovered it was kind of a neanderthal type human And so some of the prevalent theories have been that maybe there's still some neanderthal type humans Out there rolling around their light tempside just really smart just kind of trying to stand with the radar And doing their best to avoid all of us Um, the thought the flaw with that theory though is the 16 inch footprints that are found in places I don't know anybody who's got a 16 inch foot Uh, tamish your foot 16 inches. No my foot's small for tall guy Yeah, and so really a 16 inch foot is kind of bizarre and not range up from what i was saying that i had seen there We range up to 24 inches up to 20 so 16 probably at average But up to 24 inches is long and then eight inches wide That's like a 19 e Now one thing that's interesting though with kind of this theory of really intelligent Sasquatch Is there's a scientist who is kind of searching the pacific northwest for uh For artifacts and relics and he was finding stone tools and really kind of hidden out of the way places And these stone tools actually looked to have been used recently Also, they weren't like pretty spargly stone tools. They were like have been reused in the very recent past Um, and so there are some evidence that if Sasquatch do exist that they are smart enough to use tools Um And go under kind of that mentality of using stuff Um Another thing that's kind of pointed out is you know, why aren't there fossils or bone records of Sasquatch?
Um, you know, some of the thought as well if there are a society Sasquatch, you know, maybe they have Ritualistic Practices like humans have where they're burying they're dead Another thing is is that not all climates are prone to produce fossils. I mean there has to be very certain uh What's the word i'm looking for? My kelmi out here conditions that should be very certain conditions for the creation of fossils If you get into a forest the environment that's very wet and something dies, it's going to decay very quickly And in that type of situation you're gonna have you know chipmunks squirrels mice Eating those bones for calcium. They'll be knowing those bones.
I was sort of the big feet either dead as well Could be I don't know i've never talked to one which would make sense why they can't find Caucasus so do you do anything you'd like to add to our big for discussion? Yeah, so one of the things that i've heard that they supposedly do as well then this kind of shows their intelligence Um, I want you to imagine if you would something similar to in Lord of the Rings the two towers the movie where they light the the wood the torch and it's kind of like okay You see this beacon lit so the next person likes their beacon it gets all the way from gondor to rohan vice versa You just got deep on me right so they've got this whole you know beacon lighting thing to say you know, hey We need help right so the theory is that apparently They have what they call from what I was told um that they have like what they call like I guess like day watcher Sasquatch and basically those are the ones that are gonna be out in the daytime they tried them That's the kind of picture i showed you guys at the beginning of the episode They try to sit as still as possible and they just observe the area and they're kind of watching out They're like the watch guards or watchdogs or whatever you want call and uh, apparently they'll have like Sasquatch kind of stationed at certain areas uh within you know audio distance of one another so they'll have like uh sounds or whatever that they make To let you know that hey there's people kind of coming in on our area So they'll do that and it will just kind of go down the chain to where it gets back to the actual compound or wherever where they all live This has come with white supremacist. Yes Or you're just out in the woods, you know, you hear somebody up on the mountain top he gives out one of those whoops that's kind of a Big foot whoop and then we're gonna treat you time free because out of the forest But apparently that's that's one of the theories is they're able to communicate that way kind of like through a chain to let you know You know if something's coming they you know, haul or out or whatever they do whatever sound they make So it kind of travels through all these different Sasquatch till it gets to like the base or their camper wherever you want to call it Uh to kind of warn them that there's there's possible danger in the area. It's all this kind of shelter in place wherever they are.
Yeah, yeah, that would make sense All right. Well, let's go around the table. Let's I did a couple of things I did one of those. We're going forward.
I'm scared. I'm saying it I think you get my turn. No, what's your hand? Hands raised.
Mike. Uh, I'm real. Couple of things I thought were really interesting. Um, the term of Sasquatch.
Where does that come from? So as I mentioned, it's not Not scandinavia. It's a word. It is a word.
Yes. So in the late 1920s, there was an Indian agent named jw Burns who compiled stories of and published them in a series of Canadian newspaper articles and burns borrowed the Sasquatch from a tribe What they're called that how come melon, but there was like the sasquatch is what they called it. And so he just called it sasquatch I thought that was interesting. Um, another interesting thing that I read was that according to the Associated Press 2014 poll more Americans believe in bigfoot than in the big bang theory Which I think big bang theory is taught in school.
So that's pretty cool. Um One third of all claims of big footwise sightings are in the Pacific Northwest and uh, castle pretty much covered that one. Um That's it from most of the facts that I thought I thought I thought there was one more. So it was actually really interesting this week I was really interesting on my yahoo feed popped up and there was a story about how the fbi released their files this week about a Their files on bigfoot on Sasquatch and that they had actually somebody back in 1975 had sent them a Sample of some skin and some hair tissue and they kept this they tested it.
They kept it all under wraps at any rate They determined that it was From the dear family one thing that was kind of interesting that you mentioned was the Native Americans now Native Americans have believed in Sasquatch were a really long time every tribe um and One of the theories too that kind of came out was that some tribes actually sent somebody out to be a showman And they spent ten years by themselves kind of wandering around the forest learning how to Communal with nature and so one of the theories was that it was these Wildman shamans if you will that were going out there that were these sasquatches But again you run to the problem of the whole 16 inch foot prints type of thing one thing though It's fascinating overall and it kind of comes back to what you're saying about more people believing in Sasquatch in the big bang theory Is again this group of scientists who I was looking into and I was doing research they even said again These are not crackpots. These aren't you know guys who you know dressing the camel got in Sasquatch every weekend because that's what they're gonna do by darn These are actually doctors and primary specialists and they basically said looking at all the evidence They can't definitively say what is out there, but there's enough evidence that there definitely is something to it and it really bears a serious Investigation if you will by the scientific community is kind of what they said is that basically the scientific community is ignoring something that there's a tremendous amount of evidence to support So real quick let's kind of just go around the table and I kind of want to hear your actual theories now Tim what is your thought what is your their ancestors watch? You may or may not agree with this but the direction I'm gonna go is slightly religious I do know that they talked about in the Book of Mormon and forgive me for those of you that aren't religious But they talked about a race of giants basically that inhabited the Americas and yes And I believe it says it's somewhere in there that eventually they all went extinct I guess my theory is that it actually goes in that they This race of giant humans they fled to the wilderness and they Just kind of grew and adapted from there. I mean, it's I don't know like I don't know say I'm not saying that it's exactly them But I think it's just an ancient kind of race of giant men that have just that's what they've done their entire lives through generation to generation I'm gonna blow some people's mind with your theory here Tim Everybody who's listening go to YouTube and YouTube the name Wayne May Jaredites and he kind of talks about these Jaredites and shows some archaeological evidence of the Jaredites But the Smithsonian has in their possession Skeletons of these people that are seven plus feet tall They've got tools from these people that are just gigantic compared to what you were I would use There's archaeological evidence of these giant people in the American continent So my theory is it's people like this that have existed that have just gone and Learned nearly obviously they grew hair because they've adapted to the environment Obviously like they're they're in my opinion.
It's a race of giants That just they've done so well at avoiding Culture and just other things that they've only learned what they've needed to learn to survive and they've adapted to their environment And like I said, I mean being that they are a race of potentially humans They would it sounds reasonably that they would have the capability of having the same kind of intelligence that they know when you want to There's nothing say about it even be more intelligent on some levels Mike what are your thoughts and theories? You know this these stories have been around for hundreds of years thousands of years You know when they go back to the Romans had stories about wild men running throughout Europe You know these giant hairy men even the greeks most of the most cultures That are in the northern hemisphere at least have them. I don't know about the southern hemisphere But I wouldn't be surprised so but they go back centuries and so there's definitely something there There's something to it. It's not like it's a hoax that's been running around for you know 5,000 years and it just keeps going just gives it keeps giving I do I'm not sure.
I'm gonna be honest. I'm not a hundred percent sure Do we talk about the one the one that we talked about that weeks ago because that's something that is one of the things I could go with Wait till I'm full my three then we'll jump into that Okay, so I'll say that story But I think that's one that I lean probably more towards so now you have to sit in wait So you don't have a theory on what's asked what actually is I do but that's kind of what we're gonna get into okay Okay, I'll I'll dive into that theory then um so I'm kind of with Tim I'm on I'm more of the religious theory on this and you know we deal with the paranormal. We don't super natural we deal spirits I have seen things investing in the paranormal They're just off the wall. I know Tim has to I know Mike has just things that there's no other explanation I have no doubt on a you know the religious aspect of life that there is a god there isn't afterlife And if I take that For the value that it is I have to buy association except that the scriptures are also accurate and That the information they're in is accurate now.
I mean anyone that's listening to the show Especially those of recently like binge watched it like her friend and uh was the name Scott And australia. Hey, what's up Scott? I think that's a name. I was looking at it.
We're wrong. We're told yeah well, you know, that's kind of how we are but you Do you I mean you can listen to some of our older episodes and you as you listen through our shows You can see how our opinions and beliefs change based on the new evidence that have we've come across I mean I remember one episode rice straight up said psychosome exists and then a month later We haven't counted with one and I completely changed my mind So I remember early on in our episodes were taught the best way to the stones were absolutely The best way to use the stone was to throw it at the spiritual runaway and now look at it So now with that kind of background of what I've seen I know that the scriptures are accurate. Uh, I haven't seen anything that disproves them I've just seen more and more and more that just kind of in my opinion backs up that religious aspect of life Um Again, I'm LDS. I'm Mormon.
I know we're not supposed to say that we're anymore. Huh? Anyway, so they doubt they're listening to this There's a feeling that we get a letter for the first presidency. We've asked you not to use that term anymore.
Um, So With that being said one of the teachings of the LDS church is the book of Mormon The book of Mormon is basically considered to be a scripture of a people that were here on the american continent It's kind of a companion to the bible. Um, and one of the things that has been taught is that god has people all over the planet The bible is from his dealings with the Jews in Jerusalem The book of Mormon is with these dealings with the people here in the north american continent And there are no doubt other books with other people that he's dealt with in other parts of the world We have those books right now. No, we don't Um, but it makes sense. Why would god just talk to one people and not all his people?
um Now in the book of Mormon, he called 12 apostles just like he did in Jerusalem and before christ ascended back into heaven He asked them what they wanted and Nine of them said hey when our time is up, we just want to return and be with you and three basically kind of said God said I know what you guys want. I know you're scared to say it, but you guys want to just stick around not die and keep working And that's fantastic. You guys can do that. Um, when it comes time for you to die And you guys will just tool around and work for me here on earth until the second coming and those individuals were called the three knee fights Um, if you look into the Mormon history, there's a lot of folklore dealing with the three knee fights helping with this that and the other In the formation of the church.
Um John the revelator from the bible. Uh, he also was granted eternal life, uh where he is Still here on the earth still doing stuff, you know, obviously we don't know who he is or where he is But he's still hard at work doing whatever it is that john the revelator is tasked with doing So there are people who are immortal here on earth Um, cane cane enable cane was cursed after he killed his brother able to walk to the earth Uh until the end of time until the earth was done. Um Now with our talk about sasquatch we're talking about different size footprints we're talking about different locations. Um Pure theory.
I don't have any doctrine to back this up as far as religion goes But if canes curse to walk the earth until the second coming who's to say that some guy who's been walking on the earth for thousands of years Isn't seen as sasquatch. Why aren't there bones? Why isn't their body? Well because dude is cursed to walk the earth Until the end of time, you know, if there's one guy Rolling around trying to avoid people That's pretty easy for him to do and he can leave big huge footprints.
He can Not be found he's not gonna be out there reading and multiplying. He's not there's not gonna be a race now Here's where I get into the hole. There's multiple size footprints. There's yeti there's just because canes cursed to walk the earth For the rest of time until god comes again Who's not to say there's not been other individuals through the course of history who have not had the same curse placed upon them as well And are not being seen in other parts of the way.
We just don't have record us. That's good point I don't know purely theory on my part pure conjecture I've nothing to back that up but to me it answers the questions of why aren't we finding corpses? Why aren't we finding colonies? Why hasn't something that will lose it become extinct?
If it's something with more of a supernatural origin something that's been cursed to walk the earth until god comes again That would answer a lot of those questions Now so your theory is a mortal cursed people mine is a race of giants I kind of mean more with with with castle on this one because this is kind of what I grew up being taught I'm also LBS as well But I'm not well you are I'm just a clinic at everybody else out there so there's a But serious this kind of where they go together. Okay, so castle was talking about this gyrite Okay, this is what Tim's there right the gerite right here race of giant people So maybe people back in the old days, you know back in the early days because these gyrites these are you know Well, but this like tower of baby type of people okay, so this is a really early Old Testament So this is the same kind of a you know Several hundreds of years, but still kind of the same kind of time frame as as cane right so maybe people back, you know Adam even you know, maybe they were large people which would include both of those of those theories, right? So I also was always taught and this may be true It may not be true, but that the cane was cursed to roam the earth And I pitched that idea to somebody and when you're talking about this and I was like well what if God you know this is going completely I'm really just talking. I apologize already.
He's not really just bear with us because Yep, where's James? All right, so the Kind of let your God flood at the earth and that God flooded the earth and nobody lived then How could can Cain still be here? I don't know if he wasn't on the arc right? Well, if he's cursed that he can't die maybe he's just judging along underneath the water just off or maybe he's learning how to back float and I don't know but Wasn't I think I was the one that brought that up was like about the being able to breathe underwater I can't swim and you know, maybe he's just maybe that was just drowning cause he's feeding like he's drowning But can't die because I know the highlander didn't drown Highlander comes from I'm not gonna go in the hunter Story though.
He's a mortal in the movie and he goes underwater and he's able to just walk around like normal Do you mean it's the tell the story that we've got? Yeah, this is kind of a LDS myth This isn't doctrine by any means but this is from an LDS history I'm not like I said not officially so straight This is kind of a town so a journal from somebody in that time So just to kind of preface with that the word we don't want this to be thought of it in fact none of our theories are church Sanctions doctrine at all. Anyway, go ahead There's no science to prove anything that we've said here. What about this?
That's what I said I said that there is a giant we established that is scientifically true. Thanks Tim. You're welcome. No, this is In his back this is in 1835 and this was man David W Patton Was this was back in kind of the New England area.
He was writing on his horse heading over to somebody's house to visit And he says he encountered a very unusual individual. Here's what he says He says I'd know that suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me for about two miles His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair his skin was very dark He said that he had no home that he was a wanderer in the earth He said that he was a very miserable creature and that he had earnestly sought death But that he could not die and his mission was to destroy the souls of men The account was on that the stranger introduced himself as king who had murdered able And in order to get him to leave pat and said that he rebuked him in the name of the lord jesus christ And by the virtue of the priesthood and commanded him to go away and he did But that's the story that I had heard since I was a little kid And so that was the theory my dad had and that is just that big foot could be king So that goes along with what castle said and um There's other stories that are similar to that Um From various places around the earth that I think that one is the one that just kind of I will always think of not always remember so Anyway, so that's our episode on sas watch um I be curious know what other people's theories are go ahead and chime in on advanced peremormal uh facebook page um, so race of giants race of giants and Can and others cursed walk the earth until the end of time, um, which is the theory I like because that accounts for no bodies Uh Anyway, tim do you have a stone? You know, let's actually do this I think you've got a strange peremormal news story for us. Okay, let's have you do that and we'll end the episode with stone of the week Okay, um I didn't know you're gonna do that.
So I have to do fine story real quick. Um, it was one that someone shared in the Radio Ronin radio Ronin goblins group Um if I remember correctly it was about a guy That went to walmart and basically started spreading salts over the place Uh because he was trying to get rid of the evil Stay inside the circle can exercise that even uh, didn't watch too much supernatural Probably this happens like that's too much guard. I make it look stuff up at a on whim Yeah, I had it earlier and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna talk about this But it just like salt that was in the store like go to the salt aisle and just start just just wail in salt over the place It's quite possible. Um Well, you're looking at that.
I did see online. So if you've ever seen this show supernatural They they talk to you when they do start salt circles all the time then they like there's words that you can say that incantations that will Make the bad things away. Um, but you can buy containers of salt that have the little directions on the bottom. How to do that?
Really? Yeah, like the little jars of salt things. I thought that was really funny And where do you find these jars of salt? Oh, you can write everything on Amazon All right in hudson florida Hey, ma'am.
Um, yep, of course. It's in florida. You should see the picture of this dude like this guy is I mean He's all kinds of methy special So man in central florida told deputies he poured salt on the floor of a walmart store to get rid of the evil spirits around him The pascal sheriff's office arrested 38 year old demon dean cantrell early sunday morning. Uh, this article is This is as recent as june third is when this came out A store manager told investigators a man poured salt on the floor and on his feet before walking into the woods near the store I guess you gotta make sure you're pure Manager said he wanted the man charged with trespassing a deputy found cantrell lying under some trees in the woods But still on walmart property.
He was arrested and taken to the lendo lakes detention center It says it says lendo it's no it's better. Yeah, I don't I don't I mean the lendo lakes detention center and butter fact Is it real like the lendo lakes detention center? I mean but the fact that this guy was right salt all over the place because he thought he had evil spirits at walmart That's kind of how I feel when I walk in the walmart so my question is to be used. I can't leave it's not but the lendo lakes I have no idea.
I have no idea. Well, if you had evil spirits like on emirotach to and stuff Well, then doesn't he locking the spirits inside the salt circle? Well, I didn't ask our questions mike. Yeah They just said he poured salt on the floor and on his feet before walking into the woods.
So All right, so That's weird wild stuff. Yeah, it's done a week this week. I have chosen Stone that I don't know why I haven't talked about this one yet It's actually very important stone to have any collection. I think It is black tourmaline And what I've got here says get your chakras sparking sparkling clean with a black tourmaline crystal a big time energy purifier in the world of healing crystals Like a daily disinfectant for the soul the black tourmaline crystal cleanses the aura of icky thought patterns keeping you up at night Whatever you happen to be on your spiritual journey The black tourmaline is an excellent crystal for everyone because it is the bodyguard stone that provides protection and elimination of negative energy You can wear it as jewelry keep it in your car and place it all over the house even near computers Seriously, just put it everywhere because this is an all-around energy cleanser And as a must-have for every energy or for every gemstone collection Now some of the meanings and healing properties of black tourmaline the crystal is also a One of the most powerful minerals for absorbing electromagnetic radiation Which makes it excellent for placing their computers and other electronics It is a decorator's dream with an intense black color that makes A striking statement piece in your home decor and also goes with everything an Excellent addition to the fang sway of your home Black tourmaline crystal properties serve as a powerful energy protector That's magnified even more when placed in each of the four corners of a room or property Another way to incorporate the black tourmaline crystal healing properties into your life is by placing a stone in a small bowl of water And leaving in the main living areas of your home This daily ritual keeps your space cleansed and harmonized by using black tourmaline to ward off negative energy in your environment Uh, some of the properties of black tourmaline is because of its powerful ability to clear it negativity black tourmaline is a key component in everyday cleansing rituals Enhance its energy purification powers when you combine black tourmaline with sea salt and a negative removal jar Black tourmaline is also a powerful protector against energy vampires helping to put boundaries between yourself and others Black tourmaline jewelry worn on the body is reminded that there's a line that can never be crossed What keeps bad energy from getting into your psyche I'm actually a big fan of black tourmaline.
I've got a huge piece that I keep with me in my cleansing kit at all times Uh, so it's kind of one of those go-to stones that I personally use I have that as well We've actually used it when we've done some uh, clearings and breaking attachments off people it helps Not only does it protect against the negative energy. It's also grounding helps keep you grounded Everybody. Hey, thank you for tuning in to the supernatural hour. Don't forget our investigation.
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