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EPISODE · Aug 11, 2025 · 54 MIN

Scaling Intentionally: Startup, Growth, Balance, Empire?

from Scaling Up, Not Giving Up · host Richard Lee

🎧 Episode Title:Scaling Intentionally: Startup, Growth, Balance, Empire?📌 Episode Summary:In this episode of Scaling Up, Not Giving Up, I’m joined by Dave Sobel – tech entrepreneur, podcaster, and founder of MSP Radio. Dave has scaled businesses, gone through acquisition and IPO, and now runs a lean media company focused on helping IT service providers navigate growth.We dive deep into the idea that growth isn’t one-size-fits-all. Dave shares the “modes” every founder cycles through – from startup to growth, balance, and empire – and how to recognise when it’s time to switch. We also unpack the emotional side of business: letting go, taking risks, managing relationships, and why founders shouldn’t feel trapped by the company they created.🧠 What You'll Learn:The four business modes: startup, growth, balance builder, and empireWhy McDonald's is the ultimate business systems case studyHow to scale without growing for the sake of itWhen to prioritise your life over your businessWhy not scaling can be a strategic choiceThe importance of founder support systems – partners, friends, mentorsWhat risk really looks like as you grow (and age)🔗 Links & Resources:Dave’s Podcast & Content HubConnect with Dave on LinkedInBook: The E-Myth Revisited – Michael GerberBook: The Innovator’s Dilemma – Clayton Christensen🔔 Subscribe & Follow:Enjoyed the episode? Follow Scaling Up, Not Giving Up wherever you get your podcasts. And if you’re feeling generous – leave a review!📰 Bonus insights and articles at: https://richard-lee.co.uk

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