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EPISODE · Aug 18, 2026 · 45 MIN

Scaling Without a CFO Is Just Creative Drowning | Kelley Brubaker

from Life Beyond the Briefs · host Brian Glass

Most law firm owners do not wake up thinking, “Today is the day I ruin my finances.”But a lot of them are doing the financial version of that anyway.They are hiring. Spending. Growing. Saying yes to more cases. And hoping the numbers will somehow make sense later.That is exactly why we are bringing this episode back.It was one of our most downloaded conversations, and it still hits because the problem has not changed. If anything, it has gotten more complicated.In this episode, Brian sits down with Kelley Brubaker, a fractional CFO who helps law firm owners stop flying blind with their money and start making decisions with clarity. Kelley does not talk about finances like a textbook. She talks about them like a person who has seen too many firm owners wait too long to get help.You will hear why your P&L is not telling you the whole story, what numbers actually matter, and how to think about scaling without accidentally creating a more expensive version of chaos.The conversation gets into the stuff most lawyers avoid until it is already a problem. Hiring decisions. Benchmarks. Marketing spend. Profit planning. What it really costs to keep the lights on. And how to build a firm that pays you on purpose instead of whatever happens to be left over.If you have ever looked at your numbers and felt a little too confident, or a little too confused, this episode is worth another listen.Because scaling without understanding the money is how a lot of firms end up working harder, growing faster, and feeling more trapped than ever.Connect with KelleyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubakerWebsite: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/Book a Curiosity Call: https://hello.profitscalethrive.com/public/appointment-scheduler/63dd4b35e18124affefa8ffa/schedule____________________________________Brian Glass is a nationally recognized personal injury lawyer in Fairfax, Virginia.  He is passionate about living a life of his own design and looking for answers to solutions outside of the legal field.  This podcast is his effort to share that passion with others.Want to connect with Brian?Follow Brian on Instagram: @thebrianglassConnect on LinkedIn

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Most law firm owners do not wake up thinking, “Today is the day I ruin my finances.” But a lot of them are doing the financial version of that anyway. They are hiring. Spending. Growing. Saying yes to more cases. And hoping the numbers will somehow make sense later. That is exactly why we are bringing this episode back. It was one of our most downloaded conversations, and it still hits because the problem has not changed. If anything, it has gotten more complicated. In this episode, Brian sit...

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