Scott Desgrosseilliers on AI Rewriting Attribution: Are Marketers Ready? (#021)

Let's know what you liked and learnt! AI is changing how customers discover brands - and making marketing attribution far more complex.In this episode of The Super CMO Show, Swami speaks with Scott Desgrosseilliers, Founder and CEO of @wickedreports about the rise of the AI dark funnel, the shift from SEO to GEO, and why marketers need to make their websites AI-ready.They explore how brands can earn visibility in AI-led conversations, use structured content and proprietary expertise, rethink first-touch attribution, and make better budget decisions when clicks no longer tell the full story.⭐ 5 Key Takeaways1. AI is creating a new “dark funnel.”More customer research is happening inside AI chats, making early discovery and first-touch attribution harder to see and measure.2. SEO is evolving into GEO.Brands need to make their websites AI-ready with clear structure, specific intent, FAQs, how-to content, and original research that AI systems can understand and reference.3. Proprietary expertise is the new visibility advantage.Generic content will not be enough. Brands that translate their distinctive knowledge, data, and point of view into AI-friendly formats can earn more meaningful recommendations.4. Marketers must look beyond platform-reported ROAS.Google, Meta, email, and SMS platforms can all claim credit for the same conversion. Independent, deterministic attribution helps reveal what actually drove new-customer growth.5. Brand and first-party data are becoming even more valuable.As AI puts more distance between brands and the customer click, building a trusted brand, capturing owned audiences, and continuously testing new signals will be critical to growth.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 Introduction01:56 AI Will Approximate or Guess Things04:11 Your Search Traffic Is Going Down08:59 AI Will Understand the Intent of the Page26:10 It’s All About the Profitable Outcome35:44 All the Ad Platforms Are Grading Their Own Homework39:50 The Best Thing I’ve Seen Isn’t Accurate Enough to Count On45:13 Keep Modifying Your Tags and Your Content47:10 The Importance of Building a Brand49:01 ChatGPT Already Has a Conversion API50:09 From Reports to AI-Powered Marketing DecisionsSelected Links and Show Notes⁠: https://www.contraminds.com⁠Subscribe to our Weekly Newsletter⁠: https://blog.contraminds.comSubscribe to ContraMindsSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4xceASphmwAjJONTlsvo2YApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/contraminds-decoding-people-minds-strategy-and-culture/id1485202972Follow UsTwitter: https://twitter.com/contramindsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/contraminds/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/contramindsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/contraminds🔗 Links & Resources:ContraMinds: https://www.contraminds.comSubscribe to our Newsletter: https://blog.contraminds.com🎧 Listen on Podcast Platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4xceASphmwAjJONTlsvo2YApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/contraminds-decoding-people-minds-strategy-and-culture/id1485202972Follow ContraMinds:Twitter: https://twitter.com/contramindsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/contraminds/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/contramindsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/contraminds