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EPISODE · Jul 2, 2026 · 1H 24M

Scott Lucas: 10 Years of Brexit and MAGA Made the Entire World Worse Off

from The CEO Retort with Tim El-Sheikh · host Athmetric

Scott Lucas delves into the political landscapes of the UK and the US, following 10 years of Brexit and MAGA, respectively, that led to international conflicts.I sat down with Scott Lucas to unpack a conversation that moved quickly from sports to politics to war, but kept returning to the same big idea: narratives shape power. And, arguably, the two biggest narratives that shaped the entire world's political and economic environments are Brexit and the Make America Great (MAGA) movement.We started with the New York Knicks' historic NBA Championship win and a standout speech by Zohran Mamdani that turned a basketball victory into a powerful message about resilience, unity and renewal. That set the tone for a wider discussion about how leaders use moments like these to connect emotion, identity, and public hope.From there, we got into the UK’s political crossroads, especially Brexit, Andy Burnham, and the failure of empty slogans of recent prime ministers: All 6 of them in under 10 years of trying to govern Brexit Britain!The core point was simple: Britain cannot fix its future with nostalgia or symbolic "sovereignty" talk alone. If the country wants growth, stability, and influence again, it has to re-engage with Europe in practical ways and stop pretending the damage from Brexit was anything other than real.We then discussed the US and under 10 years of MAGA influence, even while Biden was president. Our conversation turned to democracy, spectacle, and the danger of a political system that keeps rewarding division and lawlessness.From Iran to Trump to the endless fundraising cycle, the warning was clear: when politics becomes performance, real governance becomes ineffective, and the voters suffer. The thread running through the whole discussion was hope, but hope backed by action, because both the UK and the US are at a point where they have to choose between rebuilding and doubling down on the same failures.Join the conversation now and tell us what you think the next ten years of UK and US politics may look like, and whether we will ever be able to fix the multi-generational damage caused by the two monumental political bombshells.

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