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Screaming Skulls

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In the dead of night as people sleep, that is when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three dark things take power, we like to call it the supernatural hour. Hey, welcome to the Supernatural Hour. This is your host Raven.

This is Chad. This is Emmet. This is Drake. Who's Drake?

I don't know. Welcome Drake. Who's Drake? Drake is one of our WISPS and apps personnel and team members and he is now on our podcast.

So welcome Drake. Thank you. We're excited to have him. Welcome aboard.

So the business, the business is brought to you by Castle Photo Art. So go to Castle for your photo needs. We are working on a new public event I call today and left a message and I'm looking to get a return call from them. But we should be getting something up soon on the new event.

This is the one that we have planned, but the venue doesn't. Right, and since this is not live, we're recording this about a week ahead of time. By the time you hear this, it might be up on the website. So go check the website out.

By the way, I am working on something with my employer. Hopefully as a public event for advanced paranormal because I will be retiring the end of this year. This will be my last chance to investigate the place. I'm going to be able to bring in as many people as possible.

So stay tuned. Something may come of it. It may not, but I'm working on that. That would be awesome if we could because we've got some really neat video evidence in your venue.

Oh, the place the place is haunted. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I've worked there for 37 years and some of the spirits in my shop I've worked with in life and I know that.

It's cool. See what happens. Keep your fingers crossed. Awesome.

We look forward to that. So we've got a couple new patrons, but we talked about last time. We still need to get a little more information on them, but welcome patrons. Yes, we're so excited for you.

I also have two things I want to talk about. Neither of them are really paranormal related. I guess one is. So y'all know that I play a phone game.

I've talked about it here and there. It was called Game of Thrones. And then me and my friends all merged over to this game called Rise of Kingdoms. And it got more in-weekwit.

We started playing this game called Call of Dragons, which is a lot like Rise of Kingdoms if you're a gamer out there. But it's like updated, more fun and cool. Anyway, it's an interactive game. You play with people from all over the world.

You know, you'll chat chat. Where are you from? You know, just kind of some basic stuff. And I mentioned to this one individual that I was talking to that I was from Utah.

And he said, oh, there's a good ghost hunting out there. And I said, no way. He goes to hunt. He's like, oh, yeah.

Oh, I thought you meant no way there was a ghost hunting. He says, yeah, he's from back east. I don't want to give up too much information because I didn't get permission from him. But his name is Brian.

And Brian and his wife who do a lot of ghost hunting. He's actually a medium, an empath like I am. And he's going to be a little bit more. Is this the guy who friended me on Facebook today?

I don't think so. Brian? I don't think so because I didn't tell him about you. Okay.

Okay. I'm sorry. I mean, I can tell him to friend you. That's okay.

I'm sorry. Continue. Ryan, you need a friend chuck. No, but he knows why those two are low.

He's actually telling me that he's taking a paranormal class here in about a week or so. So I'm excited to hear how that goes down. Is it online or is it someplace local? I think it's someplace local.

Local to him, not local here. Yeah, local to him. Okay. That's still cool.

That's still cool. Yeah. So he's excited about it. I'm excited to hear about it.

So shout out to Brian. Hey, Brian. Also, this has absolutely nothing to do with the paranormal, but it just was a really cool experience. So I told him that I would share it.

So y'all know I'm in school because I complain about it a lot. And yesterday was my last day, this semester to go up to school in the train. I don't go up again until fall. Yay.

I know, right? I actually don't mind it too bad, but it's nice to not have to go. So it would be a nap opportunity for me. Yeah, that's a homework opportunity for me.

I understand. Unless you get chatting with someone, which doesn't happen to me a lot because I can have kind of a resting bitch face, unapproachable look to me if I want to. As I decide, how is the connectivity on the commuter rail? Like for Wi-Fi?

Yeah. That's awesome. When you got to do work or something or you got to communicate, it works great. Yeah, I've never had a problem.

You just took that and everything just took that. Is that through the UTA Wi-Fi or is that through your phone though? Because you would do everything through your phone and your connection. Is it counting against your minutes or have they got something going on on the coaches?

I have used my tablet a time or two and I haven't noticed. I just turn it on. And that's not your phone. That's just internet, right?

Okay. Okay. That makes sense. They must have internet access on the train.

They do have. The last time I was on the last time I used it, it sucked. Yeah. No, I've used it when it sucked, but it's been good this last year.

Cool. Anyway, so I said now... Should we build UTA for that? Yes.

Okay. We'll pee out there. As long as we're so off the subject, UTA has this new app called Transit. And it's the most amazing app you know exactly where the train is.

You can compete with people, you log in and it tells you how many people you've helped. You literally do nothing and I'm like in 23rd place and I'm so excited. I'm getting to first place because I'm like ridiculous competitive. Really?

Yes. Okay. I believe it. Okay.

Here we go. Here we go. I'm not in the weeds. So I sat down by this gentleman.

There's like four seats that are facing each other, right? And one person is sitting there. There's three open seats. It's probably transport.

I should just be able to sit down. But I don't know what it is. In Utah, we have to ask permission. May I sit here?

You know. So I go over and it's kind of the only... My eyes sit here and he's like, yeah sure. Sit down.

So I sit. And I had gym clothes on that day because I go to the gym after class. And he looks at me and he goes, do you work out? And I sit here.

And he goes like a towel because you look really fit. And I'm like, thank you. And so then we sit there and silence for a minute. Anyway.

And then he pulls out. And then he told him there'll be a little something extra in his check. You're right. No, you do look great.

You do look great. Thank you. I'm like, you're my new favorite person. I didn't say that.

But anyway, after a minute he goes, let me show you something. He says, I want to give you something. I want to give you something. I'm like, oh, you don't need to give me anything.

I'm like, oh, crap. Let's give him give me. But he pulled out those cinch bags. Like the little backpacks.

But they just cinch up. So he had a couple of those and he had some beanies. Well, he gave me one of the cinch bags. And he's a man from Africa.

He told me what country he was from. And I have never heard of this country before. And I feel like a schmuck. It started with a G, but it wasn't Ghana because it was country I'd never heard of.

Anyway, this man has been in the United States for 12 years. He has become a citizen. And if you know anything about becoming a citizen, it takes a long time. It's expensive.

And it's hard. And so I had off to him for going through that process. He started out in Brownsville, Texas, moved to Las Vegas, lost his job due to the pandemic, was offered a job in Utah. So he's doing his desk job.

But he really wants to start his own brand, his own sports brand. Like Nike or under armor or something like that. So he's designed a logo. And his clothing and a barrel and that kind of thing.

Yeah. Right now he just has the cinch bags, beanies and sweatshirts. But he wants to stand. He's just doing this on his own.

The branding is everything this day. Oh yeah. Well, when we put this up on YouTube, we'll have a picture. But his company is called American.

And he said, let me tell you the story behind this. He says, in my country, we don't say, you know, Chad is an American. He said, we say Chad is an American. He says, I realize it's wrong.

It's just how we do it. But he said, I really thought I could play off of that to be, you know, to show patriotism and to show kind of that sport. So I can do it. I, you know, just what sport I'm looking for.

Promotions, but just to, you know, to do better and be better and throw that ball a little harder and run a little faster. Right. So it's the letters are can and great big letters and then Amer is just kind of interspersed between. And then the logo looks like an A.

It's really kind of neat. Anyway, he gave me this cinch bag and he's really starting to do well. He's actually contacted a few different companies and talks with them to make their clothing. So I just wanted to give him a shout out.

If you go to Etsy, he has an Etsy shop and it's look under, don't just Google American sport brands. One word, don't just Google that because you'll get women's lingerie. I don't know what American sport brands has for American lingerie, but it does. You have to search for seller American sport brands and he will pop up and, you know, buy a beanie from him.

Buy a sports back from him. He is just a really neat guy trying to do his own. So anyway, that was a very long story, but there you go. All right.

So much for the business. Let's go on and talk about residential investigations. So Drake, I'm going to let you start this off. People are tired of hearing me jabber.

What do you mean talking about the portal in the house? Well, actually we have to. So yes, let's do that one first. What was that?

That was just I didn't even think of that as a residential. That was like I went to hang out with friends. Oh, yeah. That's like a hangout.

Oh, by the way, there might be a portal in my bathroom. Yeah, we've determined it was what? Side of an eight corner or something? Yeah, it was a very big.

You know, I have to I have just I didn't make this residential, but I, you know, I have to do a shout out to Candice because she is like the the portal master in this group. I've I've gone to residential and she's been there before. I said, Candice, can I please go through the house first? Because if I don't, she goes through and she goes, there's a portal there.

There's a portal there. There's a portal there. And I'm like, thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

She is. And what's funny is when she first started, she's like, I don't have any gifts or anything. It's like no, the portal master. She is the portal master and she's just amazing.

And and and thank you, Candice, for letting me go through the head of you sometimes, you know, and I might get half of the portals that you get. But thank you, dear. Thank you very much. Anyway, yes, actually this residential I didn't put up on the on the team page because Chardonnay just ran over.

It was at Drake's house, which is like two miles away. And there was me and you and Drake and Vivian. It was like what 13 or 14 type threes we found in there? I think so.

So tell us why you had us come over to begin with. I mean, what was going on? So I think I think I know why he had you come over from what I'm hearing. This is amazing.

How long is this going on? So it was we just moved in. We'd maybe two weeks after we moved in. Vivian, my mom started having nightmares regarding me and a roommate.

And they're on the top floor. I'm on the bottom base floor. Her nightmares differ in mind completely hers and my roommate. Same dream.

Everything. Okay. Now I know you. We know each other.

Did Uncle Albert have anything to say about this? Yes. And no. He said it was something followed me from work.

We determined that wasn't the factor. And for those that maybe have just started listening to us, Uncle Albert is Vivian's spirit guy. Yep. Yep.

She speaks to him often. Very much. But yeah, we asked him. He confirmed the portal that was there.

And then we triple confirmed it with Charles, which is Raven's spirit guy. And he exists. I have actually for a listeners from two years ago, I have SLS evidence of Charles. Actually moving Raven's divining rods.

Okay. And that was amazing. You said that to me. I'm like, that is so cool.

That was cool. And that way we also, you were describing a portal location to a client. And we heard a voice say, it's there. And I don't know if that was Charles or somebody else.

But I think we verified that that was Charles. That was so amazing. I think we verified through that. I think we verified that through someone else's spirit guide.

That was amazing. Anyway, go ahead, Drake. But here's the even more weird thing. So I can normally find type three's or anything.

I can feel him. I can even feel him. They usually have the hate on you. Yeah, usually I haven't figured out why yet.

But they were like hiding from me. And then, but we found out these were like really, really, really like really wimpy type three's. The thing about the wimpy type three is though, they have a little bit of an opinion complex and they tend to manifest as huge. They try to make you think they're so it's like the bigger, the ones that we run across, the bigger they are.

Sometimes in the back of my head, I go, these might be little no ones. And most of the time they are. Yeah, but these ones are like really afraid of us. Yeah.

So I think that's why you didn't see them because they were so wimpy and they were probably more scared of you. Probably. Because we know at first they come out and they try to scare us away. And sometimes they realize that, hey, you know, they're facing somebody that isn't that knows who they are and is affected to the level of a novice.

And you know, they quickly realize that they're in a little over their head. And those are the ones that we can really take advantage of and eliminate on occasion. Now, this one, these ones were funny though, which we started to pretty much block them into where they were and they all just jump back in the portal. They're chicken.

Yep, absolutely. So I was actually surprised at how quick that went. It was like what, five minutes tops? Yeah, because I, well, maybe ten because we tried to get them to chat through some of the devices and they wouldn't do it.

Nope. Do you think it's because you got in there so quickly and they realized that, oh, this is not a good doorway? This is futile? Well, spirits know ghost hunters and I don't want to say us because no they do.

They know ghost hunters and they know when you're coming because usually they know that we're coming and they'll ramp up their act. They do. I actually, the house we're retiring to in Castledale later this year, the spirit that haunts that house and it's known in the family. He already knows I'm coming.

And he's worried. And I'm glad to feel that. Yeah. And these were, and I don't want to say so wimpy because even if, you know, any type three is going to have power to, you know, scare and confuse.

But I think they thought, oh, crap, they're coming to run trouble. So they didn't put up much of a fight. No, excellent. So it just tells me that they weren't too entrenched, which is because the more entrenched they are a little bit stronger.

They can be. Yeah. And this building. And you haven't been there for very long.

Have we been there maybe three and a half weeks now? Right. And are you the first residents of that? That's like a brand new.

Yeah, we are. It's like a brand new building. They're not even finished building the parking lot yet. Yeah.

It's kind of funny. It's, you know, oh, it's got to be an old scary house to have things in it. It's like, nope. Not necessarily.

Okay. So now let's talk about the one in Twilla. This for me was probably one of the more fun as far as evidence and things that actually happened at the residential that I've had in a long time. And it was my most frustrating experience recently for her unrelated reasons.

The weather. Well, yeah. And then traffic. Traffic.

The weather, my back. Yeah. I tried. I tried guys.

I'm sorry. So a woman called this and she had been having issues for years and years and years and she called her spirit. What is she calling? Wasn't it Simon?

Simon. But then she had a nickname for him. What was that? Rat bastard.

She called him Rat bastard. We had our new investigators will and Brian with us. And so I said, you know what, just kind of go where you're where you're filled wrong, do whatever equipment you feel drawn to or feel like you need to use. That's the Brian who frended me on Facebook lately that's the one that's the one.

Okay. Got it. But it's interesting because we kind of, Denise started out kind of the couch because that's where Simon was sitting. Will kind of went around into the kitchen and Drake you and I kind of made a beeline for the bedroom.

Yeah. But it was interesting. Because we went into the bedroom, not 10 seconds later. Boom, there's will.

later boom there's Will in the bedroom. And Brian and Denise were out in the living room. And Will's like, it feels like we were all drawn here. And why don't you talk about the picture that you got?

The one where it looked like it was the dark shadow at the foot of the bed. But then, so I actually, because it's the live photo, I actually play it the rest of the way through. And it cuts across the bed. Yes.

Yeah, you can see the shadow just, and it's not tall, you know, it's not one of us because the way the shadows were, it would have been tall. Yeah, it was this, it's in night vision? No, off my phone. I'll have to say.

Oh, we'll just rig your, just rig your day like phone for you. Yeah, this was about seven o'clock in the evening. So it was still light. I mean, it was still light.

You're getting light through windows and stuff. Yeah. And it was, if you have an iPhone, there's a feature on there called the live photo. And in the live photo, it will move for just a second or two, but it was just enough to see that shadow move and you go, oh, and it's actually the first time I've ever caught that too.

Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. And then Will later sent me a video that is just busy because of finals we all have to send it out to you where he catches.

And the homeowner said that she really felt like one of the spirits, one of the type three that was there was a leprechaun. And in this video, there's this green orb, this bright green orb. And I don't know if it's really a leprechaun or if it just kind of loves the fact that she thinks it's a leprechaun. So it kind of manifests green.

Is it magically delicious? But you see this green orb and there's nothing there that would have made a green color. Was that the one that he had his black light? It was falling black light around?

No, this was, this was, I think this was after. And I wasn't, I mean, I was in there when that happened, but I wasn't watching too close. Why don't you describe what happened there? So first it was we found one type three was sitting between me and Will, like around my knee, my shin to my knee.

And I poked it on its head and it bit my finger, which was like interesting. And then was messing with my knee. I think Will has on video where my pant leg was moving on its own. Yes.

He was like, you had like cargo pants on? Yeah. And it was like the pocket of your cargo pants. And it was like moving on its own.

And there was no air conditioning, no air, no nothing to do it. Somebody tugged on your pants. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then there was, let's see, you heard an audible growl. Did you get a kiss? I was growled as we walked out.

So you heard the growl. So that means Will heard a kiss. I had a spirit that was hanging on my arm the entire time. Denise had her catwalls light up.

It was very, very active. Will, he sounds like a popping. There was a portal in there too. Yes, there was a portal.

We closed the portal. I actually showed Drake your picture to Castle. And Castle looked at the bed. And his gift is he can look at an object until if it hasn't attached me, he goes to the hedgehog on that bed has an attachment.

So I texted the hedgehog. It's just a stuffed hedgehog. Okay. A lot of stuffed animals on that bed.

Yeah. So I texted the client. And the hedgehog doesn't have, you know, like a great, great, great grandmothers that she carried across the plains or something sentimental value. I would get rid of it.

I said, don't destroy it because destroying it just releases the spirit to attach to something else. I said, I would just get rid of it. Unless you bury it in the desert, right? So yeah, right.

And hope nobody finds it. So she says she threw it in the trash. And I just I call that good. Hopefully we don't get a text in a week saying it's back.

Hopefully. So anyway, that was an interesting investigation. I'm sorry I missed that. I was so close.

That's okay. We've got more in the works. You said something about as you were leaving. Oh, I forgot about that.

So as we were getting ready to leave, Will and Brian are father and son. And Brian's a glem in a ghost in the car and Will said, why? We're not done. We still have something to do.

He goes, well, apparently he had, you know, so Will comes over to talk to him like, you don't even go out to the car, dad, you can stay. And his dad, Brian thought that he heard Will tell him to go. And Will's like, I didn't tell you to go. So he's like, okay, we'll solve state.

So we cleanse the house. You know, we staged it. We put salt in all the places. And then.

Did you close the portal? I wasn't Brian told to leave just before my arm got tugged on as we were late in the stage. Yes. So then what happened to the three men?

Oh, all three men started getting poked and potted and touched. And I was like, what the heck? We cleared out everything. Just the men.

Mm hmm. And so we asked this woman's spirit guide. We said, are you, you know, because of this Simon, are you leery of men and you want the men to go in the answer was yes. And so we said, okay, you know, we'll go.

We're getting ready to go. I mean, because we had pretty much finished. And then, and then I started getting tugged and pushed and then the Denise complained about getting a headache and getting tugged and pushed. Anyway, I can't remember she did.

But then the women were starting to get kind of harassed. And so everybody out of that. Yeah. And so I said, are you wanting everybody out?

And the answer was, yeah, the spirit guide was like, yeah, we're done. We're clean out. Be gone. They were very very very pushy to get us out.

Yes. So we're like fine. We're, I mean, we're like, that's okay. We get it.

You want your space now. So we're. So that's kind of a unique experience for us. Yeah.

I think she didn't. I think about that. I think it's just about the type of spirit guide that is sad. Yeah.

Well, you know, I think she did have some spirit guides that and a protector of female spirit that were buffering her from these type three's. I absolutely. But they were still. They were still affecting her quite a bit.

Or the imitating, right? They were imitating and she she had believe that she had that they were all spirit guides initially. Yeah. She said, I have a spirit guide that's gone bad.

I thought perhaps not how they work. Yeah, that sounds that's weird. I've never heard that before. Yeah, and she didn't.

Okay. Her main topic day is going to be on skulls before we get into that check out our shop in advance Paranormal.com, you can get all sorts of stuff there. We've got shirts and supplies, all sorts of things. So go out to your every paranormal need.

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We're also on YouTube and TikTok. YouTube, we're up to like 342, 343 subscribers. If you haven't subscribed to us on YouTube, go out and do that. It really helps us with the algorithm, as we're getting a larger audience base out there and better reach on our YouTube.

So that would be helpful. And our TikTok, I have kind of fallen off the bandwagon. I'm sorry. But I will get back on the bandwagon.

So if you go there and you say, oh my gosh, yes, I've posted anything for several months, I know I'm sorry. I'll get better. I'm actually going to put on that video. If Will says it's OK, I'm going to put on some of the video evidence that he has sent.

And Rick, that's OK with you. I'll put that picture up. Oh, cool. I can't wait.

So that will be fine. So that will be out on our TikTok site. All right. So that's it with our introduction to the main topic.

And so we're ready to start with skulls. So I thought skulls would be an interesting topic, because you can just go so many directions with it. And as I got kind of researching, we might have to do a couple of different skull episodes. Because I think everyone this time kind of gravitated towards screaming skulls, am I correct?

It's everything I can find. I want to see where you're going with this, because it's such a huge, huge topic. Well, my initial thought was skulls and why is the iconology? How did it come about?

And did people start using skulls? You know, just kind of why people use skulls? Why is there a skull and cross ones on the pyro? Well, it's like the center of the mind, right?

And the center of it. Yeah. And as we started researching, I'm like, screaming skulls, screaming skulls, and then Drake texted me. He's like, are we doing screaming skulls?

I'm like, yes, yes, we are. OK, this is a new one on me. So listen, if you want to down the road, maybe we will do a history of the iconology of skulls. But today, it's screaming skulls.

Oh, no, it's scary. Drake, what did you find when you were looking at stuff? Pretty much it dates back to like 15th century England is where they kind of start with. And it's pretty much just mainly just folklore and legends.

By people. Yeah. Yeah, so. But let's hear it.

So I don't know if you read the same story that I did. But did you pull up the one about Bédéskom Manor in Dorset, England? Yep. I have that one, then I have the one that it's.

Is this one of those places where there's like a million like catacombs under the property and skull? No, not really. OK. I had to pause because I heard a blood curling scream outside.

Pretty sure it's just the neighbor kids, but it kind of gave me a little freak out. I think I heard that too. So the story that I ran across and interject at Will. I mean, Will's not here.

Well, Drake, I can just yammer on and on and on. Just go ahead and shut me up. So the story, the notes that I checked said this was the original story. But there was a fellow named Azariah Penny.

And he was banished to the West Indies in 1685 because he supported the Duke of Monmouth. And I don't know what the issue with the Duke of Monmouth was, but apparently it wasn't good. You could be exiled for political affiliations, apparently. Yeah.

So this Mr. Penny became a very successful businessman. Eventually he returned back to England. And he brought one of the slaves with him, which, at the time, was a thing.

They thought that this slave was a West Indian native, but he could have been African. No one's really sure. But this slave became ill. And on his deathbed, he said, I have one last request.

And his last request was that his body be buried in his native home. And this is where, depending on the story that you read, there's a little bit of variation. But it was also said that he demanded that his body be returned to native ground or a terrible curse would befall this manner. So it's kind of going along with what you read.

Yeah, mine was it was his wish to be sent back to the West Indies. Yeah. Again, this is in 1685. So things are going to get a little skewed here and there.

So we're just going to live with it. But apparently, as a riot promised him that he would fulfill this last request, the slave passed away, not long after. But the promise was never kept. Yeah, it's probably a little expensive to send a dead body, you know, halfway around the world.

Yeah. So the end of that bearing him in churchyard that just still is very hard. It's still expensive to do that, by the way. It is.

It's expensive for life people to. It's just going halfway around. Yeah, no kidding. Well, you get a couple of meals that you won't get when you're dead, right?

Can I just tell you, when we went to Egypt, we were given, on the airplane, the nastiest sandwich I have ever had. The only thing I could eat off of it was the cheese. I mean, I can't eat bread anyway. I can't eat bread anyway.

But there was this orange substance between the bread and the cheese. I don't even know what it was. I do. It was awful.

No, I mean, I don't know what it was. It wasn't meat. It wasn't cheese. It was some kind of dressing, like a mayonnaise-ish something.

I mean, it wasn't. It was a taste. It was an orange paste. You have to remember that the companies that get the contracts for these in-flight meals are always the lowest bidder.

Oh, it was. I. Well, they won. It's you know, I hate to say it.

But the companies that build the bridges that we drive over every day were also the lowest bidder. Right. Yeah. So yeah, don't think about it.

Don't think about it. I don't know what those sandwiches. I ate the cheese off of these sandwiches. I would have been happy with peanuts and a diet Coke.

You would have wished for peanuts and a diet Coke. This was a nasty sandwich anyway, back to screaming skulls. So he was buried in a local churchyard. But they said that as soon as the body was buried, people in the town nearby and in the manner, they started hearing roars, moans, screams, everything.

All these just horrible noises coming from the burial spot. Wow. And when I have it, they pretty much dug him up and brought him back to his manner. Everything stopped immediately.

Yeah, because the locals are like, this is not cool. And so they made him dig him up. Get that body out of here. So then after they dug him up, the slate was removed and he was put in loft at Bettiscoe Manor, where it just kind of decayed.

And somehow everything poof decayed except for the skull. Some versions of the story say that the body was shipped back to the West Indies, but somehow the skull stayed behind. We don't know. But over the years, there's been a lot of attempts to get rid of the skull.

And every time they get rid of it, there's just screaming and wailing. And so it always comes. How do they get rid of it if they don't know where it is? Well, they know where the skull is.

They don't know where the rest of the skeleton is. Correct. According to the story, the skull is in a farm house. Yeah, and it will scream until it's put back into the home.

Wow. Yeah, they said one instance of skull was thrown into a pond by a resident of the Manor. He said he was just so appalled by the side of it that he didn't want to see it anymore. But the resident was just troubled all night by screams and moans.

And so he went and slopped it out of the pond and put it back. And then it was quiet. That says that one particular night of the year, a ghostly coach hurtles up the road from Betta Scum's Manor to the local churchyard. Locals actually called this the funeral possession of the skull.

There was a writer by the name of Eric Marple, who spent a night at the Manor with the skull in the 1960s. And he claimed to not hear any screaming, but apparently he had a lot of nightmares. And he wouldn't stay a second night. And as soon as morning came, boom, he was gone.

Wow. So it was just nightmares and nothing beyond that. Just had a bad night sleeping. Wow.

The one I read has nothing of mentions any of that. Oh, really? Yeah, other stuff. I've got one about Agnes Hall, which is one of three sisters.

Ooh, that's here. This one. So that one's pretty much the same. Why is it just pretty much the?

So three Griffiths sisters, Frances' Margaret and Catherine. Catherine was known by her back, to the name of Anne. Caused by Pertent, Agnes Hall be built in the closing years, the reign of Elizabeth I. Just before the hall was completed, it was Anne.

But returning home from the family nearby when she was attacked and left for dead by a gang of ruffrians. I like that word ruffians. Yeah, she was brought back to the hall. Her dying wish was to remain in the hall after she died.

What do you like better, ruffians or rap scallions? Ruffians to me sound more like bad guys. Rap scallions sound like just teenagers being teenage. Jerks, right?

Yeah, you're right. I was a rap scallion. Do you want me to tell you one of my rap scallion moments? Oh, please.

I'm actually a little ashamed at this moment. OK, then you have to tell it. OK, so in high school, I only hung out with guys. Yeah.

So we did exciting things like hang out at Junkyards and pull parts off cars to fixers. I can grease wheel bearings because of my high school friend boys. I'll be expecting you next weekend to grease my wheel bearings. Anywho, so this one time, one of my friends had, well, his sister, oh, this is like a twofer.

His sister had a 65 Mustang that we were not supposed to drive unless we had permission. Well, we took this car without her permission and drove it. Well, of course, you have to. You have to, right?

Yes. So there's me. There's like three other guys in this car. And we go to the neighboring town and we get a con cone, which is like a football.

We get one and we shared it. You know, you just pass it around each up a couple of licks. We're driving around. We see this kid.

So we're teenagers. We're 16, 17 years old. We see this kid walking down the street. He's like 10.

And my one friend says he pulls up to the kid and he, we did not do drugs. Let me just put that out there. We were just clean and sober, straightly, skids except for this moment. And on an ice cream high.

Yeah, on an ice cream high. So the driver of the car, not me, thank you very much. I was in the car and I did not stop it, which there once comes my shame. The driver says to this little kid, hey, kid, you want some drugs?

We didn't have drugs. This kid, I feel so passionate. If I knew who this kid was, I would apologize to him right now. I would have it.

My name is Earl Moment. I apologize to him. He was so scared. And your dad's a cop too, at the time, in Payson.

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