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EPISODE · Jun 16, 2026 · 35 MIN

Sean Garrett on Working With Michael Jackson, Beyonce, Usher’s Yeah! + Jay Z Naming Him "The Pen"

from Rickey Smiley On The Spot · host Urban One Podcast Network

Legendary songwriter and producer Sean Garrett joins Rickey Smiley for an unforgettable conversation about creating some of the biggest hits in music history. Known as "The Pen," Sean has written and produced chart-topping records for Beyoncé, Usher, Ciara, Chris Brown, Fergie, and countless others. From the making of "Yeah!," "Goodies," and "Run It!" to sharing his unique creative process, Sean gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to consistently create timeless music. Sean opens up about earning his iconic nickname from Jay-Z, the responsibility that comes with shaping the sound of a generation, and the importance of collaboration in the music industry. In one of the episode's most memorable moments, he shares what it was like working with Michael Jackson during the final year of his life and reveals that the King of Pop called him every morning to talk about creating "the biggest song in the world."The two also discuss fatherhood, Atlanta's influence on music, vocal production, and why songwriters deserve more recognition. CHAPTERS (00:00) - Intro & Sean Garrett Welcome(01:34) - Introducing the Legend: Sean "The Pen" Garrett(03:26) - Do Songwriters Get Enough Recognition?(04:02) - Sean's Early Career and Atlanta Roots, Military Upbringing(05:32) - The Creative Process: Creating vs. Writing(06:51) - Natural Gift: 56 Number Ones and "Super Friend" Status(07:40) - Making a Name Before Social Media(09:51) - The Story Behind Usher's "Yeah!"(13:52) - Transition to Solo Artist: New Music "Girlfriend"(14:26) - Cooking Memories with Plies and Pinto Beans(15:44) - How Jay-Z Gave Him the Nickname "The Pen"(16:57) - Working with Michael Jackson: The Final Year(21:03) - Vocal Producing: Pushing Usher, Chris Brown, Beyoncé, and MORE(24:02) - Atlanta's Impact on Hip-Hop & R&B(24:56) - Dating in ATL and Finding "The One"(25:56) - Free Time: Bowling, Top Golf, and Family(28:40) - Game Time: "The Spot" Rapid Fire Questions   ABOUT THE PODCAST Rickey Smiley On The Spot is Rickey in his truest form — Authentic. Funny. Heartfelt. Honest. Each episode brings audiences up close with one of comedy’s most trusted voices as he dives into real conversations that mix humor with humanity. From laugh-out-loud stories to deeply personal moments, Rickey creates a space where guests can let their guard down, share their truth, and reflect on life, faith, family, and growth. Whether he’s trading jokes with celebrity friends, offering unexpected wisdom, or exploring the issues shaping our culture, Rickey reminds listeners why he’s been a voice they can laugh with — and learn from — for decades. Blending comedy, culture, and conversation, On The Spot delivers the authenticity and energy that only Rickey Smiley can bring.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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