Tonight on 360 breaking news in the abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy the local sheriff acknowledging reports of ransom notes the LA Times reporting that blood was found at her home Also tonight the president's call for Republicans to nationalize elections in 15 states his supporters said that's not what he meant at all He made it clear he did and more also tonight new fallout from the Epstein files involving two former British royals Andrew and Fergie and a former British Lord Who's now facing a criminal investigation? Good evening. Thanks for joining us shortly before airtime We got new video of the Pima County Sheriff's Office helicopter flying over Nancy Guthrie's home outside Tucson, Arizona It's now been almost three days since she was last seen two days since she was reported missing and a day since authority said she was abducted Officials say they have no suspects and would give no details on reporting the Los Angeles Times that blood was found at the scene CNN has obtained dispatch audio from the sheriff's office in the hours after she was reported missing you hear details about someone named Nancy who matches the description of Nancy Guthrie The reference missing person on a PTSD had 5H205020 plus not to be referenced in the FBI so I email 84 years But each five senior bill in private room things after 20 hours of the yesterday They're gonna have a pressure piece making cardiac issues Seen as Ed Lemon Dares in Tucson tonight So the sheriff had said earlier that the crime scene had been processed the house had been turned back over to the Guthrie family I think we just we do have him is it clear ed to why the department's helicopter was hovering a short time ago What's the latest you are here? Well right now all we're hearing Anderson is that this was just part of the investigation But it did seem significant that helicopter made six or seven passes over the house over the course of 20 to 30 minutes We hadn't really seen that throughout the course of the day at all today And here at a time when investigators say they have no idea where Nancy Guthrie is and there is a rush to find out Just where she is Nancy The mystery of what happened to Nancy Guthrie and her Tucson home deepens investigators face the heartbreaking reality at this moment We don't know where she is we have a lot of work in front of us on Tuesday afternoon The Pima County Sheriff's Office said they're aware of reports of possible ransom notes for the 84 year old mother of today show co-anchor Savannah Guthrie saying we are taking all tips and leads very seriously It started with a TMZ report claiming they received a note that appears to be a ransom demand which they turned over to authorities And at least one other media organization in Tucson says they have received what appears to be a ransom note as well But it's not clear if these notes are authentic the sheriff was asked earlier Tuesday if ransom demands had been made You asked if there was any ransom and you didn't say no you said we're following all leads Does that mean a ransom has come in we're following all leads we have that's all I can tell you we get we've got hundreds of leads Authorities say Nancy Guthrie was brought back to her home just before 10 p.m.
Saturday night Investigators are trying to piece together a visual timeline of those crucial late night and early morning hours leading up to the moment When Nancy Guthrie's friends realized she had not shown up for church services on Sunday morning This is what the roads around Guthrie's home look like in the darkness Investigators are asking for anyone to share home camera videos or photos that could help them find clues But this search is hampered by the darkness and home scattered behind the desert landscape Nancy Guthrie was reported missing around noon on Sunday Law enforcement says there are no suspects in her disappearance and a reward of up to twenty five hundred dollars has been offered for information leading to an arrest Nancy was taken from a home against her wheel and that's where we're at But there is an almost 14-hour window from when Guthrie was last seen to when the family determined she was missing Is there any way to narrow down the window of time when she was last seen to ensure she was recording missing? You know I really don't want to get into narrowing down the time because narrowing it down means we can miss some tips and leads The sheriff and the FBI say they don't know if multiple people are involved in Guthrie's apparent abduction and according to the LA Times Investigators say they're also trying to track leads from cameras inside the house and possible blood evidence We've submitted all kinds of samples for DNA and we've gotten some back but nothing to indicate any suspects We're downloading and analyzing cell phones obtaining cell tower information Conducting interviews the FBI is doing everything in our power to bring Nancy Guthrie home officials also say they don't know what she was wearing or how she left Her home, but that critical medication was left behind in recent years Nancy Guthrie made frequent appearances on the today show with her daughter Savannah Guthrie who has traveled to Tucson posted this plea overnight asking for prayers and Nancy's neighbors are showing their support for the Family we truly hope that they find you as the investigation into her disappearance continues for a third day We have someone's life who is that in jeopardy and so job number one is we got to find her and we got we got to work hard to do that So Ed the sheriff's Department sends an update to the media just a few moments ago part of it reads quote We have been in close contact with the Guthrie family and they continue to receive updates as the investigation progresses at this point There is no credible information indicating this was a targeted incident end quote is it clear to you what that means exactly? Well, we've kind of gone back and forth with these questions with the investigators And I think what we're seeing here is kind of a just a realization of just how little information they have on who or how many people might be Behind all of this so I'm not sure at this point We can put to like read too much into that that it suggests that it would be the opposite of that That this would be some sort of random attack I think what we've heard over and over from investigators is that they don't really know what the motive is behind all of this and that They're not ruling anything out so it could turn out that this is some sort of targeted event or maybe it's not at this point investigators simply don't know All right, I love and there are things very much joining us in a law enforcement analyst Jonathan Wackro and criminologist and behavioral analyst Casey Jordan Jonathan, I mean obviously the timeline here is is not good and the lack of information You know now saying you know no evidence it's targeted that seems if you know there's these reports of alleged ransom notes Part to know what to make of it all. I think the way you just categorize this is uncertainty right law enforcement Just does not know where this investigation is in the moment where it's gonna go next The walking back of the fact that you know, this is a it was targeted I mean, I think that's a big deal because now does that shift into is there a public safety concern?
That's broader than this Guthrie that you were not addressing so today's Communication from law enforcement has been very questionable. It actually speaks to what Ed was saying is that the the totality of this investigation? The weight of it is is now coming full bear. Everyone wants answers the family is there There's this pressure We already know that there's time pressure just because of her medical condition But the fact that we don't have anything that solid that's being discussed publicly is of a real concern right now from an investigative standpoint That statement about targeted not targeted.
Does that mean the alleged, you know, or the reports of ransom notes They're not pretty much validity into those. I mean, they weren't sent to law enforcement. They sent it to TMZ in a local music Yeah, anytime you have a notable Disappearance of anybody or potential abduction that becomes public you are going to see a slew of different ransom notes in communications come in validating those is essential Law enforcement does have the capabilities to to assess what is real and what is not real But they're you're gonna see a lot more action if they were real bonafide Ransom notes in and right now, which is not seeing again. We're not seeing that activity those had come in prior to the widespread Pickup of this of this incident You'd see a different posture by law enforcement what you wouldn't see is the frustration and uncertainty today in today's press conference You would actually see basically a tick-tock of what the where the investigation is today the actions that they're taking not this this Vassalation of I don't know we're unsure.
We were sure yesterday. We're not sure now again This is not a criticism of law enforcement It's just the reality of the pressures of these types of investigations when time is critical Casey if I mean first of all Casey just from your experience what what stands out to you? What are the data points of you think are significant and what we know and don't know? Well, we seem to know a lot less than we do know and now that we're coming up on 72 hours I mean this is really unusual You know if what bothers me is that there just is no video or digital evidence I mean she has cameras, but you would think if they had any imagery that they wanted to share with the public It would be out by now.
They said there are no footprints. There are no tire tracks This would indicate to me that this was incredibly well planned and that would suggest that it was targeted But as you said they're walking that back. I mean what are the chances? This is just an unhinged random intruder who kidnapped an 84 year old lady I mean Anderson kidnappers rarely take old folks who can't walk more than 150 feet or babies because they are liability They're high maintenance.
It's they need taking care of if you want to keep them alive and get a ransom So yes, we have reports of ransom demands But I would put money on the fact that they're all pranksters at this point Generally if you want to present a ransom demand you give it directly to the family or the FBI not to TMZ And I have to say I've been wondering if they have holdbacks that they're not letting us have maybe they're Negotiating with with kidnappers behind the scenes and all of this is a red herring But I don't think so I think truly as of this evening We have no idea where she is or if she's even officially kidnapped for ransom So John I think just in terms of what you would be doing an investigation like this at this stage given all the limitations You know the first of all the fact that a lot of these homes are set back from the road The idea that there's gonna be ring cameras that show, you know people walking or driving down that road that clearly not It's not that kind of neighborhood. No, it definitely is not and we've seen recent investigations where those ring cameras actually show a direct pathway Of a potential suspect around university shooting exactly exactly my point. We don't have that right now So what are investigators looking at right when they think about a threat they think about means opportunity and intent to cause harm now In this case, they really need to look at opportunity who had the opportunity to go to the house after you know eight or nine o'clock At on Saturday night get into the house. You know, so who knew that Miss Guthrie was vulnerable who knew that she was there?
Who knew that they could potentially have access to her that starts limiting down your pool of potential suspects Now you take that and you start creating this victimology Which is a law enforcement assessment process of seeing where there were vulnerable points patterns of behavior that intersect with those people who may have Opportunity and that's how you start teaching about that is it does not seem like the neighborhood where a car sitting on the street for days monitoring Somebody's coming and goings would go unnoticed. I mean, it's not like a busy street in New York City I mean, they may be hiding in plain sight But it's that's not the neighborhood You we just saw with Ed's reporting how wide open those those were and the setbacks of the home So I'm not going to appreciate Casey Jordan as well I'm next like a note date on the search for miss Guthrie from the lead detective of the Puma County Attorney's office Let her center Mark Kelly joins us after he gets his day in court with a judge today made a defense secretary Higgs That's attempt to reduce the senator's and former astronaut's rank over the video He made telling service members they could refuse unlawful orders Finding the source you can trust for weather forecast should be easy, right? This is C&M meteorologist Derek Bandam thrilled to introduce the new CNN weather app check your daily forecast to plan your day The weekly forecast to see what's on the way and prepare for any major storm with our robust real-time video coverage The app is stunning and if your weather nerd like me, you'll love our in-depth stories in the photo of the day Download the CNN weather app on iOS today I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta hosted the Chasing Life podcast when the Wolverines asked me to deliver the 2026 commencement address to the medical school.
I was honored and I jumped at the chance We have a special episode because I'd like to share that speech with you all to all the recent grads Whether it's high school or college or maybe you know someone's studying hard to get in or just get through medical school I want to share a few lessons that I learned along the way even more than 30 years later I never take for granted that the education afforded me the chance to say I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta and this is Chasing Life Screaming now wherever you get your podcasts Every morning tonight's breaking news the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's 84-year-old mom Nancy the Pima County Sheriff's Office acknowledging reports of possible ransom Notes tied to the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mother and saying they're taking all tips and lead seriously They now have about a hundred detectives. They say working on the case joining us is Fabian Pacheco chief of detectives at the Pima County Attorney's Office Chief Pacheco, I appreciate your time I know you are helping run point on that the tips coming in from the public how many tips has law enforcement received so far Well Anderson, thank you so much for having me on your show and taking the time I oversee the 80 crime program, which is an anonymous tip reporting system here That's based out of the Pima County Attorney's Office We are working closely in assisting the Pima County Sheriff's Department with a huge number of tips that we have received for the past two days These tips these tips are coming from across the country not just locally and they're being forwarded immediately to the investigating detectives Now as indicated earlier the Pima County Sheriff's Department is the lead agency investigating this case and they are being assisted by the FBI Who's providing analytical and technical support? It is a difficult case.
Yeah, so I mean, how do you give them the volume of calls coming in contacts coming in and as you said They're coming from all over How do you kind of triage them? How do you assume you're able to kind of put them in some sort of order of most urgent or most feasible to you know More something we'll get to later Yes, absolutely those are all forwarded like I mentioned the Pima County Sheriff's Department set up an Intel unit a group of detectives specifically Stifting all these tips. No, naturally some have limited information some you can quickly assess that Don't represent much credible information, but there have been a number of tips coming forward that they spend some time looking into So they triage them they find they determine after reading what the tipster is reporting whether this is something this tip is something they Need to send out detectives to the area or contact these people directly maybe give more additional information That sort of thing so they are going through them pretty quickly So you're a former in excess of 100 excess of honey your former homicide detective I mean have you ever seen a case in which? An elderly woman was taken from her home as she slept or taken against her will from her home as she slept No, this is gotta be a this is a first for me I know we've had a number of high-profile cases here in Tucson and Pima County the art challenging and they're very difficult I know that we all have a lot of questions and We're working the detectives are working diligently Terulously to get answers to those questions, but first and foremost We want to locate Nancy and bring her back to her family and for that We're relying on the public as we do oftentimes in these types of cases There are there may be people out in the community that have information regarding our disappearance or abduction We're reaching out to them.
We want them to please come forward provide that information to the Pima County Sheriff tip line or if they choose if they're more comfortable reporting to the A-8 prime tip line and remain anonymous That's also another avenue for them. So we're encouraging encouraging people to please continue to send those tips regardless of what they think if they Have some value or not. We have the detectives that are gonna make that determination Let's you put take a piccheco. I appreciate your time and your efforts We've been putting the numbers on the screen.
Thank you so much I wish you a wish you luck and and speed and the investigation Come if next even as the people around him try to soften the president's demand for some kind of federal takeover of elections in 15 states The president undoes the spin and we'll keep an amount of Keep it honest tonight a simple notion that the president of the United States actually means what he says not what his collection of Spokes people or supporters or friends or hangers on say he means what he really says his actual words for example Yes, it's in middle-e an extreme example these words. I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear I Donald John Trump is solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute and I will faithfully execute the office of the United States That was the president's second inauguration And no one raced in front of the cameras after or to explain that he did not really mean that because that would be preposterous It somehow when it comes to so much else the president has said since then that's exactly what we've seen the people around him do most recently today over this The Republicans should say we want to take over we should take over the voting the voting in at least Many 15 places the Republicans order nationalize the voting and then we have states that are so crooked and they're counting votes We have states that I won that show I didn't win now You're gonna see something in Georgia where they were able to get with the court order and the ballots You're gonna see some interesting things come out, but you know like the 2020 election I won that election by so much First quickly and obviously no he did not win the 2020 election But he's been saying that part for years the part about nationalizing the elections though Which article one in section four of the Constitution says are to be left to the states that certainly is new and presumably for many people Troubling enough that it was not long before the people around him were explaining what he really meant Specifically that they should take over elections in 15 states Can you tell us what he meant by that what 15 states he's referring to in terms of Republicans taking over elections again? What I was just telling you is that with the passage of the say that voter ID will be implemented across all 50 states The president was referring to specific states in which we have seen a high degree of fraud There are millions of people who have questions about that as does the president He wants to make it right and the say that is a solution to doing it But first of all historically not a high degree of fraud in states millions of people may have questions about that But that's because the president has been lying about it for years Second the save act is legislation that president Republicans are pushing for but it's a voter ID measure It does not call for taking over elections, which is what you heard the president say he wants Now keep it on us what Carolyn Levitt was doing it seems was spinning not to mention reading from talking points Here's how speaker Johnson essentially doing the same President's is expressing his frustration about the problems we have in some of these blue states where election integrity is not always guaranteed So we have to we have to figure out solutions to that problem That's what I think the same American has to do over Well in case you're wondering if Senate Majority Leader John Thune also got the talking points that the president was not really calling for a federal election take over Listen, I think the president has clarified what he meant by that and that is a sports to say back So with respect to whether or not That signifies ensuring that only citizens of this country vote in our elections. That's something I think we all agree with Leader Thune speaker Johnson, press secretary Levitt certainly agree on that namely that the president did not mean what he said about Nationalizing elections and then after all that explaining today all the hard work They were doing by those three and more students Caitlin Collins asked the president directly about it while he was in the Oval Office sitting in front of group of Republican lawmakers Exactly, did you mean when you said that you should nationalize elections and which 15 states are you talking about?
The elections be honest and if a state can't run an election I think the people behind me should do something about it because you know if you think about it a state is an agent for the federal government And elections I don't know why the federal government doesn't do them anyway But when you see some of these states about how horribly they run their elections what it disgracees is the federal government should get involved These are agents of the federal government to count the votes if they can't count the votes legally and honestly then somebody else should take You'll notice an answer to Caitlin's direct question. He didn't say anything about voter ID laws in all 50 states He said the federal government should get involved and should take over the county of the votes We edited out some of it for time because it went on but no mention of voter ID about even it's earlier in opening remarks He did however mentioned voter ID saying we should have voter ID and he talks about how Democrats don't even know in his opinion How to explain what by they don't want it? Joining us now is conservative radio host Eric Erickson Eric It's good to have you on the program you heard the president doubling down on the calls to nationalize elections which is unconstitutional Should Americans take that opinion threat those comments seriously? Where do you think this is heading?
Well, yes and no, you know I was an election lawyer in Georgia in a former life and in the second part of article one section four after saying the state Set the laws for elections is Congress can essentially pre up those laws and pass its own which the same act does but only for voter ID It's not helpful of the president to have a say he wants a federal takeover of elections whether he means the same act or not I'm not sure he knows all it is is but already Congress could actually but wanted to Pre-emphas states because to agree agents are the states are agents of the federal government Here now national elections not local elections in fact You can have a set of rules for federal elections and be different from state elections But the president doesn't seem to understand what the same act is in this case It's not a takeover by the federal government in Congress has never shown a desire to take over state elections So he can't do it. Maybe he thinks he can but he can't do you think I mean does the administration's explanation earlier in the day of the president's comments makes sense you that this was What he's really talking about his voter ID because he's a you know I'm willing to criticizing but I do actually think that that's what he's talking about is imposing federal requirements on the states right now Every state has a different voter ID requirement Yeah, because those are the 15 states that don't have voter ID and in fact in some cases have same-day voter registration Which the president doesn't like ironically he did win a couple of those states The White House said that the president Trump tapped the director of national intelligence Telsi Gabbard to oversee domestic election security While describing her unusual involvement in that FBI search of a Fulton County election office last week Did her role in that makes sense to you All right, only to the extent she's trying to get back in the presence good grace is she's been gabbarded by the president I mean Waldo's easier to find than Tulsi Gabbard these days particularly there's a national security meeting So she's trying to make herself relevant and he's given her something where she can try to be relevant Yeah, I mean it also shows how the director of national intelligence is an infinite job Which is why John Radcliffe didn't want it He wanted to be the CI director where there's real power It's a almost figure head position and she's trying to figure out a way to use it to get back in good grace Is they shut her out of the Venezuela conversations the Syria conversations? They deny it, but everybody knows it's true So go down to Georgia and do a dog and pony show to get the president's attention You heard the president tease that something quote interesting was going to come out of Georgia Do you have any sense of what that means? No one in Georgia knows the Republicans and Democrats alike have no idea what they're talking about You know when the president was indicted by Jack Smith He claimed that if you dig deep enough and broad enough You'll eventually find something to indict someone with a good DA can indict a ham sandwich I guess if they dig long enough they can find something they think shows a question about the election The problem is there are always questions about elections no election is perfect because people run them and people aren't perfect But they've completely missed overturning the election.
This is just score subtly with Democrats Eric Erickson. It's good to have you on there Thank you so much. Thank you up next senator Markely in federal court today over his battle with the Pentagon over the so-called illegal order His video senator joins us next comedian Craig Ferguson is going coast to coast to unpack what it really means to be an American today What could possibly go wrong Craig Ferguson American on purpose new series premieres may 30th and nine on CNN and next day on the CNN app At a high-stakes court hearing in Washington today a federal judge indicated He's likely to side with senator Markely in his battle with the Pentagon over the video recorded by him and other Democrats urging US service members to Refuse possible illegal orders defense secretary Pete Higgseth has moved to reduce Kelly's last military rank Which would lower the pay he receives as a retired Navy captain an issue letter of censure Kelly alleges the administration is trying to squelch his first amendment rights And he joins us now senator good W on CNN is reporting that the judge at your hearing today told a justice department lawyer quote You're asking me to do something the Supreme Court or the DC Circuit Court has never done That's a bit of a stretch end quote how confident are you that the judge will ultimately rule in your favor? Well Anderson, I think the law is on our side the Constitution is on our side I was in court today for my constitutional rights but beyond that for the rights of millions of retired service members and Millions hundreds of millions of more Americans where this administration thinks it's okay to violate people's constitutional rights freedom of speech freedom of the press I'm not gonna you know speculate on you know what the judge meant by anything he said or try to get in front of how he's gonna rule But I do really believe And I feel there's a lot of support out there You know for you know my side of this issue that the law is on our side and the Constitution is on our side If if you're successful in federal court and Secretary Hagg's death He could still try to or could he still try to go after through military courts after you can you recall you acted duty and tried to court?
Marshall you he has said some wild things in his censure letter to me He said he's gonna still watch what I say and if they don't like it, they're gonna prosecute me criminally So he's made some threats and these threats do not just affect me I mean there are folks at Anderson you have on your show all the time right that are retired Admirals and generals to speak about issues that are important to the American people if they are successful in Getting in punishing me for something. I said that was lawful It could and I think it actually does stifle the rights of those admirals and generals that that are on your show But millions of retired members who currently have a right to speak out about the government talk about things that they don't think is appropriate That is a right we all have and this administration doesn't like it. I mean it is remarkable that You fought for and everybody fights for people's rights For the rights that we have in this country and yet the secretary of defense is attempting to silence you to and to stop others Threatening others or warning others not to speak out not to exercise those rights which is one of the many things I mean one of the many incredible rights that you and others have fought for Yeah, you're right I wore the uniform for 25 years fighting for this country and the Constitution and they're coming after me for one reason They want to set an example to everybody else and I think it even extends but beyond retired I mean this goes to people who currently serve in the military who have you know first amendment rights to speak out about issues to say things You know I've been thinking a lot about your colleague former colleague Don Lemon He was doing his job reporting to the American people about an issue that they should understand and they have a right to receive information on And then suddenly he finds himself in jail locked up and now in a criminal process. That's what they threatened me with and I've heard from retired service members Anderson Who already have changed what they say because of how Pete Hagg set has gone after me So that's why and you've heard me say this before this doesn't isn't just about me I'm just like the first one through the breach here that has to stick up for the rights of all of us I was happy with how the proceeding went today.
I'm not gonna you know try to get up in front of the judge I respect his position and and I look forward to you know hearing what he has to say about this case Yeah, Senator Mark Kelly. Thank you for your time Powerful testimony on Capitol Hill today by the brothers of Renee Goode the 37 year-old mom who was shot to death by an ice officer in Minneapolis nearly one month ago Here's some of what Luke and Brent a danger told lawmakers the prayers and words of support have truly brought us comfort And it is meaningful that these sentiments have come from people of all colors faiths and ideals That is a perfect reflection of Renee when I think of Renee I think of dandelions and sunlight Dandelions don't ask permission to grow they push through cracks in the sidewalk through hard soil to places where you don't expect beauty and suddenly They are right alive Also testifying today was Alia ramen who was violently pulled out of her car by ice agents in Minneapolis last month I charge for get those images just a couple blocks and wherever nay good was killed She tried to tell officer she was disabled She's autism and a traumatic brain injury was on her way to a medical appointment when they cut the seat belt strap to grab her She was detained but said she was never told she was under arrest never read her rights never charged with a crime Received no medical screening phone call or access to a lawyer. I Was denied a communication navigator when my speech began to slur Agents laughed eyes. I tried to immobilize my own neck I asked for my cane and was told no Pulled up my arms and prided forward and leg irons by agents laughing and saying walk you can do it walk She also testified that she ended up in an emergency room after that experience One man with unique approach to putting pressure on the Trump administration to curtail ice and its heavy-handed immigration tactics It's got Galloway a professor of marketing at NYU Stern School of Business and an influential podcaster His solution is not protesting in the streets But for we're not protesting alone But for Americans to protest with their wallets unsubscribing from boycotting products made by American giant tech companies It's got Galloway's here to explain his plan So Scott can you just explain what this resistant unsubscribe movement is?
It's an effort to sort of hit the president administration with a message that's not only right but effective and that is I think our secret weapon hiding in plain sight is that the president doesn't necessarily listen to the courts to Citizenry what he listens to is the markets And if you look at when he's pulled back from ideas around annexing Greenland or when he's pulled back from tariffs It's been when the bond market collapses or the S&P goes down and if you look at the place the soft issue of the market It's around big tech and specifically subscription programs that are fueling big tech and I'm trying to Where I think Anderson have come up with the soft issue where we can have the greatest impact with the least amount of consumer interference And that was maybe going from two or three subscription LLM's to one from five or six streaming platforms to one to ride hailing programs to one But I think that the the president and the people he surrounds himself with specifically big tech leaders and now account for 40% of the market That the best way to send a message is through the markets and specifically through big tech subscriptions by canceling or pausing Have you heard from any of the CEOs of companies that you're focusing on? I've heard from about a third of them They're very polite they understand and then they go on to say how upset they are about the president's programs But that they can't speak publicly and I'm empathetic to that a good autocrat rewards his allies and punishes his enemies So unless it's a collective action unless they all speak together I think it's gonna be very hard for anyone to go first But what I remind them is that in early 30s Germany Hitler made a deal with the largest captains of manufacturing industry Did if they said nothing about his rise and what they sensed was a slow burn to fascism that they would crush that that he would crush the trade Unions and they would make a lot more money and then when he rose to power It was too late and I think that is a decent or an apt analogy for what's going on here And that is according to the private tax messages I get from these individuals They do not like what's going on but they're afraid to speak up and also they see money at the end of the day Notice how the tariffs do not affect these companies that there's been carve outs That there's talk of all kinds of loans to backstop the incredible infrastructure expenses here This to believe that it could not happen here is naive to history These folks are enabling what I believe is pretty depraved behavior And it is time for CEOs to collectively speak up and say what they're saying privately explicitly to the markets and to the president Lastly president Trump is calling on Republicans to take over control of elections and states that he basically claims a right with fraud Jeff Tubin was on last night He said his night in a closed call would be unconstitutional Do you think this is a diversion from you know? He's trying to divert attention from Minneapolis and other places. Do you think this is a real concern?
I can't figure out which weapon of mass distraction is distracting us from what is it distracting us from the Epstein files? Is it distracting us from parents shot in the face three times from ICU nurses taking care of veterans being shot 10 times? Whether second fourth and 10th amendment rights or first second fourth and 10th amendment rights are violated within about 15 seconds So distraction from distraction from distraction and just on something quite mundane around elections The reason we have decided to have 50 distinct electoral bodies and different technologies and methodologies for elections is such that we didn't have one system that could be hacked So the idea of nationalizing elections is not only irrational it makes us less safe than ring fencing every single state with different technologies But it's clearly an attempt to set us up for normalizing violence Or more government interference at the polls and also to create a back door for a federal government to manipulate elections I don't see what this has to do with immigration so when secretary gnome after calling Alex prety a domestic terrorist and saying he was there to mask federal agents and demanding the voter rolls This all sounds very clear to me anderson. It feels like slowly but surely a total um denial or overrun of our democracy and voting Got going it's good to have you on.
Thank you. Thank you, maderson Up next what person from said late this afternoon about the Epstein files and how the latest batch has rocked Britain for bucking in palace to the house of lore So very bad At the white house late today seen as katelyn kallin's asked president trump about the doj's release of more than three million documents in the apstein files Your sum of their exchange a lot of women who are survivors of up scenes are unhappy with those redactions that came out Some of them entire witness interviews are totally blacked out They thought they released too much and I heard that and you're telling me something else No, uh, I think it's your way time for the country to get on to something else really Well, the president of the white house today meanwhile across the Atlantic the Epstein files are raising new questions from bucking in palace to the house of parliament The latest tonight from cnx mx foster the apstein files are rocking the british establishment in the latest tranche of documents These three undated photos appear to show the king's brother and you mount baton winza formally prince andrew kneeling over what appears to be a woman or girl Whose face has been redacted lying fully clothed and supine on the floor It's unclear where and where the images were taken no captions or contexts of the photographs was provided with the document release and neither the photographs nor the email messages Suggest any wrongdoing, but they are a further embarrassment for mount baton winza who previously faced pressure to explain a 2001 photograph Which showed him standing with gilin maxwell apstein's former girlfriend and a convicted child sex trafficker and virginia jufay A prominent accuser of apstein and andrew who died by suicide in april today mount baton winza's brother prince edward telling cnn in jubai I think it's already important always to remember the victims the king stripped mount baton winza of his royal titles in october And began the process to evict him from the royal estate of winza Now uk prime minister kia stonner has urged mount baton winza to testify before the u.s congress Meanwhile the former prince's ex-wife serif Ferguson is back in the headlines for her links to apstein The latest files revealing emails she sent to apstein after he was found guilty of soliciting a minor for prostitution in 2008 including one where she thanked him for being the brother i've always wished for and in january 2010 she wrote you are a legend I really don't have the words to describe my love gratitude for your generosity and kindness kiss kiss and at your service just marry me In another she complained it was so crystal clear to me that you were only friends with me to get to andrew and that really hurt me deeply More than you'll know Ferguson was dropped last year as a patron or ambassador to several british charities after earlier documents showed she called apstein her supreme friend At the time a spokesperson for ferguson said she regretted her association with apstein on monday evening fergusson's charitable foundation Sarah's trust announced it will shortly close for the foreseeable future after some months of discussion according to uk's pa media news agency The uk's former ambassador to washington lord peter mandelson also dragged into deeper scandal in the latest release of apstein files He was fired from his post in september over the scandal when u.s law makers released the birthday book compiled for apstein's fifth birthday in 2003 in which mandelson penned a handwritten note describing the financia as my best pal The latest tranche of documents has revealed that in 2009 when mandelson was business secretary He appeared to leak a sensitive uk government document to the financia They also show that mandelson's partner ryanaldo abilla de silver regularly received undisclosed payments from apstein a spokesperson for mandelson told british media That neither the former ambassador nor de silver has any record or recollection of receiving payments in 2003 and 2004 or no Whether the documentation is authentic mandelson resigned from the labor party on sunday And it's set to quit the house of lords on wednesday in his resignation Apologize to the women and girls whose voices should have been heard long before now CNN was unable to contact mandelson for further comment max vista cnn london That's it for us the news continues the source when kalen kalen starts now see tomorrow Hey, i'm interesting cooper on my podcast all there is we explore grief and loss in all its complexities You have been and i mean is so sincerely the soundtrack to my healing My guest on this episode is shanelle jones in january she began hosting along with jenna bush hager today with jenna and shanelle the fourth hour of the today's show In may 2025 if shanelle's husband uj oj died from glioblastoma when you hear other people share It is healing and you don't feel as isolated you feel less alone And so i feel like you've 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