Season 1 - Episode 20 (Pedro Kertzman & Sarah Freeman)

Remember when critical infrastructure defenders had to convince people that cyber attacks were even possible? Those days are gone. Today's challenge is prioritizing defenses in a landscape where threats are multiplying faster than resources.Sarah Freeman, Chief Engineer for Intelligence Modeling and Simulation at MITRE's Cyber Infrastructure Protection Innovation Center, takes us on a journey through the evolution of industrial security. With over a decade of experience protecting the systems that power our world, she offers a refreshing perspective that cuts through both complacency and fear.The conversation explores how industrial security has matured from basic awareness to strategic defense. Sarah reveals how threat actors have shifted tactics, increasingly targeting third-party providers as a way to compromise multiple critical infrastructure customers simultaneously. "More and more of the actors target those companies deliberately," she explains. "By compromising this one entity, they have theoretical access to all of these customers."We dive into the practical challenges of security in operational technology environments, where the sheer volume of vulnerabilities has become overwhelming. Rather than attempting to patch everything, Sarah advocates for a more targeted approach based on anticipating adversary capabilities—a "cyber forecast" that helps organizations focus limited resources where they matter most.The discussion also tackles the integration of artificial intelligence into traditionally isolated control systems, offering insights on balancing innovation with security. For threat intelligence professionals looking to specialize in industrial security, Sarah provides guidance on essential resources and community connections.Whether you're responsible for critical infrastructure protection or simply interested in understanding the unique challenges of securing systems where digital meets physical, this episode offers valuable perspective from someone who's been on the front lines since before most people recognized the threat existed.Listen now to gain insights that will help you think more strategically about protecting the systems that power our modern world. Want to connect with other CTI professionals? Join our LinkedIn group "Cyber Threat Intelligence Podcast" to continue the conversation.Send us Fan MailSupport the showThanks for tuning in! If you found this episode valuable, don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review. Got thoughts or questions? Connect with us on our LinkedIn Group: Cyber Threat Intelligence Podcast—we’d love to hear from you. If you know anyone with CTI expertise that would like to be interviewed in the show, just let us know. Until next time, stay sharp and stay secure!