EPISODE · Feb 23, 2026 · 10 MIN
Season 2 | Episode 61 | Obstacle Course Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
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[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE]Welcome to Episode 61 of the RT Dialogue podcast!We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team (Jennifer and Lorenzo) at Freedom Family Counseling. This is an ongoing intervention series:Episode 57 -- Lenny the LizardEpisode 58 -- Pete the Pain EaterEpisode 59 -- Fireballs of Pain & the Truth ShieldEpisode 60 -- Empty Chair Bear (ECB)Nancy is the author of A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace, and in this episode (and the ones following) we look at some interventions she uses in the book (and one that isn't in there). Jennifer and Lorenzo have so much energy and enthusiasm for the work that they do, and so it was a lot of fun to have them on. In this episode they demonstrate the "Empty Chair Bear (ECB)" intervention, which can be found in A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace. [adapted word list for use with children can be found in the episodes on RT Dialogue Substack]
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[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE]Welcome to Episode 61 of the RT Dialogue podcast!We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team (Jennifer and Lorenzo) at Freedom Family Counseling. This is an ongoing intervention series:Episode 57 -- Lenny the LizardEpisode 58 -- Pete the Pain EaterEpisode 59 -- Fireballs of Pain & the Truth ShieldEpisode 60 -- Empty Chair Bear (ECB)Nancy is the author of A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace, and in this episode (and the ones following) we look at some interventions she uses in the book (and one that isn't in there). Jennifer and Lorenzo have so much energy and enthusiasm for the work that they do, and so it was a lot of fun to have them on. In this episode they demonstrate the "Empty Chair Bear (ECB)" intervention, which can be found in A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace. [adapted word list for use with children can be found in the episodes on RT Dialogue Substack]
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