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RT Dialogue
by RT Dialogue
Welcome to the RT Dialogue with your co-hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith | Sound and Video Engineer RO Smith In this podcast we desire to make connections, build community, and learn and practice the model of Restoration Therapy. More at: https://rtdialogue.substack.com/ Note:The podcast is labeled with an explicit rating because some episodes contain topics that are distressing to individuals, or inappropriate for minors (i.e. trauma, abuse, sexuality, substance use, etc.)
Episodes
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Season 2 | Episode 87 | Lance and Rhett on What They are Learning, Reading, and More
Welcome to Episode 87 of the RT Dialogue podcast. In this episode we (Lance and Rhett) spend some time talking about some things we are learning and wrestling with. While also talking about the importance of reading fiction and how that impacts our work as therapists, pastors, and ministry…
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Season 2 | Episode 86 | Technology, AI, and What it Means to Be Human with John Dyer, Ph.D.
Welcome to Episode 86 of the RT Dialogue. Thank you for joining us on this journey and tuning into this episode. I (Rhett) have been looking forward to this conversation for a long time with my good friend John Dyer, who is Vice President for Enrollment Services and Educational...
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Season 2 | Episode 85 | Kamusta ka? -- Cultural diversity in therapy, athletic performance, and all things RT with Marriage and Family Therapy Associate, Kim Agramon-Bai
Welcome to Episode 85 of the RT Dialogue, with special guest, Kim Agramon-Bai. Kim is a Marriage and Family Therapist Associate at Table Family Therapy, providing therapy in person in Pasadena, CA and online throughout California and San Francisco. This was a really great conversation as we...
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Season 2 | Episode 84 | Noe Rivera, RT Therapist & Director of Relate Strong at Pepperdine
Welcome to Episode 84 of the RT Dialogue. Thank so much for joining us. We really appreciate all of your continued support. This is an episode and conversation we have been looking forward to for awhile, as it felt like a bit of coming full circle moment. In this episode we welcome the new…
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Season 2 | Episode 83 | Associate Marriage and Family Therapist Sammy Chaves
Welcome to Episode 83 of the RT Dialogue. We appreciate your joining us. On this episode we welcome Sammy Chaves, who is an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist at Fuller Psychological and Family Services. Sammy grew up in Colombia, Uruguay, and the United States, and brings a rich diversity…
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Season 2 | Episode 82 | Gil and Brenda Stuart's Journey to RT and Development of Their Book, Lilly's Pads
Welcome to Episode 82 of the RT Dialogue! Thank you so much for tuning in to the episodes. We appreciate all the support. We are very excited in this episode to have the very dynamic couple, Gil and Brenda Stuart. They have a fun and interesting road to Restoration Therapy (doesn't it seem like a...
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Season 2 | Episode 81 | RT, trains and The Little Engine that Could with Therapist Mary Lee Evans
Welcome to Episode 81 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We are so thankful that you listen to the episode. In this episode we connect with RT Level II Therapist, and Consultant, Mary Lee Evans who lives and practices in Florence, South Carolina. Mary has been a part of the RT community for a long time...
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Season 2 | Episode 80 | Therapeutic Models and Training Students with Lipscomb Professor Dave Morgan
Welcome to Episode 80 of the RT Dialogue. We are so thankful for you joining us on this journey. In this episode we welcomed Dr. Dave Morgan from Lipscomb University where he is a faculty member in the Marriage and Family Therapy program. This was a great episode as we got learn more about how…
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Season 2 | Episode 79 | Trauma, Emotional Regulation and Learning RT, with Kaivon Asgharian
Welcome to Episode 79 of the RT Dialogue! [ Sign up for RT Summit | Sign up for new Anxiety Intensive with Rhett and Lance] We have been on a bit of a summer break in July, which has been really great, but also excited to ramp back up for the remainder of the year. And this was a really great...
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Season 2 | Episode 78 | Spiritual Abuse & Recovery with RT Therapist Nathan Ely
Welcome to Episode 78 of the RT Dialogue. In this episode we welcomed therapist Nathan Ely. Nathan is a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary, a Level II RT Therapist (as well as many other trainings and certifications), and he specializes in spiritual abuse and recovery -- a topic that we…
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Season 2 | Episode 77 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Amanda Tipps
Welcome to Episode 77 of the RT Dialogue. [NOTE: The video recording malfunctioned and was unable to capture Amanda -- so this episode will be published all audio, which is probably how most of you access it.] We were so excited to welcome Amanda Tipps to our podcast and it did not disappoint.…
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Season 2 | Episode 76 | What we typically do in a first session
Welcome to Episode 76 of the RT Dialogue. In this episode Lance and I discuss the upcoming RT Summit at Pepperdine in March of 2027. Register now. And we thought it would be fun, and hopefully insightful, to discuss what we typically do in a first session with a new client. We definitely learn a...
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Season 2 | Episode 75 | Special Guests, Restoration Therapists Lindsay and Eric Minton
Welcome to Episode 75 of the RT Dialogue. [FYI: There were some internet connections with Eric accidentally falling off, but RO Smith did a great job editing it all together. Thanks RO] In this episode we were really excited to bring on a couple we met at the RT Summit in Amarillo last year --...
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Season 2 | Episode 74 | The 2027 RT Summit with Rhett and Lance
Welcome to Episode 74 of the RT Dialogue. In this very short episode, Lance and I talk about the opening of the 2027 Restoration Therapy Summit registration -- and why you all should attend. We loved being in Amarillo for the 2025 Summit and we emerged out of that time together with a lot of…
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Season 2 | Episode 73 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Joanne Russell
Welcome to Episode 73 of the RT Dialogue In this episode we welcomed Joanne Russell who is an LMFT practicing at the Restoration Therapy Center of San Diego. It was fun hearing Joanne's story of how she came into Restoration Therapy, and how transformative it has been for her life both personally...
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Season 2 | Episode 72 | Special Guest, Associate Pastor of Marriage Ministries, David Ake
Welcome to Episode 72 of the RT Dialogue Podcast We were very excited to welcome onto this episode, David Ake. David is the Associate Pastor of Marriage Ministries at Stonebriar Community Church in Frisco, TX. I (Rhett) first met David a few years ago after he was researching Restoration Therapy...
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Season 2 | Episode 71 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Laura Matheson
Welcome to Episode 71 of the RT Dialogue. On this episode we sit down with RT Therapist Laura Matheson who is a bilingual therapist practicing in Renton, WA. Laura is a graduate of the University of Washington (Go Huskies!) where she assisted with the qualitative analysis of a study under Marsha...
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Season 2 | Episode 70 | Bono, Anxiety, and the Physical Embodiment of Truth with Dr. David Taylor
Welcome to Episode 70 of the RT Dialogue -- or the Septuagint episode as referenced in the beginning of the episode. This was a really fun episode as we invited on Dr. David Taylor. Dr. Taylor is a theologian, priest, author, professor, and artist. He is a man who wears many hats and brings to…
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Season 2 | Episode 69 | Forgiveness Through the Lens of the RT Model with Rhett Smith & Lance Ahl
“Forgiveness is the name of love practiced among people who love poorly. The hard truth is that all people love poorly. We need to forgive and be forgiven every day, every hour increasingly. That is the great work of love among the fellowship of the weak that is the human family.” (Henri Nouwen)...
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Season 2 | Episode 68 | "Core Tension" Between Emotional Self-Regulation and Co-Regulation with Steven Perez & Michael Piciucco
Welcome to Episode 68 of the RT Dialogue! This episode came about after a text exchange between us and Michael Piciucco regarding a "core tension" that he has noticed in the conversation around emotional self-regulation and co-regulation -- specifically how these play out in Restoration Therapy…
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Season 2 | Episode 67 | Special Guest, Masters Level Intern & RT Therapist in Training (and new interventions) -- Justin Metz
Welcome to Episode 67 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We are so thankful to have you joining us on this journey. This is a little bit of a different episode in that we had a master's level student (Dallas Theological Seminary) on the podcast. Justin Metz is currently training in Restoration Therapy,...
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Season 2 | Episode 66 | Special Guest, RT Therapist & Assistant Professor, Dr. Corynne Keirnes
Welcome to Episode 66 of the RT Dialogue. It was great to have Dr. Corynne Keirnes on this episode. Corynne is a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary's MFT program, where she studied under Dr. Terry Hargrave. She is a Level II Certified Restoration Therapist, and Assistant Professor of…
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Season 2 | Episode 65 | New York Times Best Selling Author, Brad Stulberg
Welcome to Episode 65 of the RT Dialogue. We were so excited that Brad Stulberg agreed to come on our podcast and discuss his latest book, New York Times Bestseller, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World. Brad is the author of four books, and it...
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Season 2 | Episode 64 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Bryan Snead
Welcome to Episode 64 of the RT Dialogue. On this episode we welcome RT Therapist Bryan Snead, who is Assistant Director of Counseling at Hill Country Bible Church. We have come to know Bryan over this last year connecting through RT Training and Texas RT Zoom monthly meetings. Bryan came to...
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Season 2 | Episode 63 | Special Guests, Jeff and Robin Reinke
Welcome to Episode 63 of the RT Dialogue! On this episode we had the privilege of sitting down with the amazing couple of Jeff and Robin Reinke, who have been so influential in the Restoration Therapy community. They have quite the story -- both LMFT's -- Robin pursued licensure and the…
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Season 2 | Episode 62 | Nancy Frigaard & Michael Piciucco on the new Asher Graduate School of Counseling
Welcome to Episode 62 of the RT Dialogue Podcast -- we are so glad that you joined us. This is a really special episode as we got to sit down with two of our colleagues in the Restoration Therapy community and hear about their launching of the new Asher Graduate School of Counseling. Nancy…
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Season 2 | Episode 61 | Obstacle Course Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 61 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her...
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Season 2 | Episode 60 | Empty Chair Bear (ECB) Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 60 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team...
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Season 2 | Episode 59 | Fireballs of Pain & the Truth Shield Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 59 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team...
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Season 2 | Episode 58 | Pete the Pain Eater Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 58 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team…
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Season 2 | Episode 57 | Lenny the Lying Lizard Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
[PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 57 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from Episode 45. In that episode we introduced you to the work of Nancy Frigaard and part of her team (Jennifer…
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Season 2 | Episode 56 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Cori Page
Welcome to Episode 56 of the RT Dialogue Podcast! We are so thankful that you listen to the podcast, and we know you will enjoy this episode. Today, we are excited to welcome Cori Page. Cori is a Level II Restoration Therapy therapist, and the founder and owner of Restoration Therapy of Columbus....
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Season 2 | Episode 55 | The 7 Vital Components of an Intensive
Welcome to Episode 55 of the RT Dialogue! We are glad that you have joined us. If you are liking the podcast, please subscribe to it on Spotify, Apple or YouTube (or subscribe on all 3). And please recommend to any other people you think would find the content beneficial. In this latest episode…
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Season 2 | Episode 54 | New Year Goal Setting with Clients
Welcome to Episode 54 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We appreciate all your support. This is a shorter episode where we reflect on the beginning of the year, and how we often approach new year's goals/new habits/etc. with clients. And we each share a couple of the big goals we have in mind this…
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Season 2 | Episode 53 | Lance and Rhett Discuss Currents Events in the RT World (and how you can get involved)
Welcome to Episode 53 of the RT Dialogue. In this episode Lance and Rhett discuss events happening in the RT community (i.e. consult groups, trainings, gatherings, future summit, etc.), as well as discussing how all of us can bring our gifts into the community and look for areas to serve.…
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Season 2 | Episode 52 | Special Guest, Dr. Tamara Powell, Assistant Professor of Teaching Practice at University of Colorado at Denver
Welcome to Episode 52 of the RT Dialogue podcast. This was a real treat for us in getting to interview Dr. Tamara Powell, Assistant Professor of Teaching Practice at the University of Colorado at Denver. Rhett has known Tamara since 2002 when she started checking out the college ministry he was...
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Season 2 | Episode 51 | Where RT Therapists Get Stuck in the Therapeutic Process w/Hatty Lee
Welcome to the New Year everyone! And a new season of the RT Dialogue with Lance Ahl and Rhett Smith. We are glad you have joined us. [FYI: There were some internet connection issues in this episode, but it was a great conversation.] We kick off the new season with Restoration Therapist Hatty…
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Season 1 | Episode 50 | Year End Review with Lance & Rhett
Welcome to Episode 50 of the RT Dialogue Podcast! We want to give a huge THANK YOU to all of you who have listened this year. We launched this podcast on February 16, 2025 with the hopes of connecting the RT community. We wanted to bring on different people within the community who were…
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Season 1 | Episode 49 | What are the books we reference a lot in therapy?
Welcome to Episode 49 of the RT Dialogue. As we near the end of the year we wanted to take an episode to reflect on a few of the books that we find ourselves referencing a lot in therapy over the years. Honestly, we could have spent hours on this episode and covered dozens and dozens of books…
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Season 1 | Episode 48 | Special Guest, RT Therapist and DTS Professor Dr. Erik Salwen
Welcome to Episode 48 of the RT Dialogue. In this episode we had the privilege of talking with Dr. Erik Salwen who is a Level II RT Therapist and who is also Level I RT Trainer. He is the Associate Professor of Counseling Ministries at Dallas Theological Seminary and is in practice at College...
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Season 1 | Episode 47 | Network Building with Lance and Rhett
Welcome to Episode 47 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. As we wind down towards the end of the 2025 year we wanted to chat briefly about a question we both receive quite a bit -- which is how to build a referral network as a therapist? Rhett has been in his private practice for 15 years while Lance is…
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Season 1 | Episode 46 | Special Guest, Rob Hayes St. Clair -- Parent from Peace Journal
Welcome to Episode 46 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We are so thankful that you have joined us on this journey, and if you like what you hear we encourage you to do us a favor. You can: recommend the episode to others leave a review for us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts (good reviews help others find...
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Season 1 | Episode 45 | Special Guests, Nancy Frigaard, Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja
Welcome to Episode 45 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. This was a really fun episode, and if you are able to – we recommend you watch the video version if possible (i.e. props involved). In this episode we spent time with Nancy Frigaard, Jennifer Smith, and Lorenzo Cantoja. Nancy is doing a ton of...
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Season 1 | Episode 44 | Special Guests, Sharon Hargrave & Dee Mayer -- Navigating Relationships During the Holidays
We were really excited to have Sharon Hargrave and Dee Dee Mayer on Episode 44 of the RT Dialogue. Sharon as many of you already know, is the founder of Relate Strong, and Dee Dee Mayer is the Senior Director of The Boone Center at Pepperdine University -- this is just to name a couple of things...
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Season 1 | Episode 43 | Lance and Rhett on the Core Concepts of RT
Welcome to Episode 43 of the RT Dialogue. In this episode we wanted to spend some time talking about the Core Concepts of Restoration Therapy. A couple of weeks ago we were hanging out with the Hargraves and some other members of the RT Community, and Terry put up a slide listing the core…
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Season 1 | Episode 42 | Special Guest, Therapist Ryan Forsell...Diving Deep in Working with Men
Welcome to Episode 42 of the RT Dialogue. We had a great time and a deep and meaningful conversation with our guest Ryan Forsell on this latest episode. Ryan is a Fuller Theological Seminary graduate (2017), Level II RT trained therapist, and has a private-group practice in Sierra Madre and…
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Season 1 | Episode 41 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Megan Kuder
Welcome to Episode 41 of the RT Dialogue podcast, with our special guest Megan Kuder. Megan is the founder of Be Well Counseling Atlanta, and a part of our Restoration Therapy community. Mentioned in the Episode Ignatius House in Sandy Springs Inner Voice of Love: A Journey Through Anguish to...
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Season 1 | Episode 40 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Michael Cox
Welcome back to the RT Dialogue with Rhett Smith and Lance Ahl. We are really thankful that you have joined us on this journey. In this episode we return to our first guest, Michael Cox, who was with us in our second episode. Michael is a dear friend and colleague, and it's always great to…
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Season 1 | Episode 39 | Special Guest, Dr. Miyoung Yoon Hammer -- Addressing Issues of Diversity, Cross-Cultural, & Multicultural Through the Lens of Restoration Therapy
We are excited to welcome back to the podcast, Dr. Miyoung Yoon Hammer, Professor of Marriage and Family Therapy at Fuller Theological Seminary. We had Dr. Hammer on podcast Episode 33, and were eager to have her back on because we just ran out of time to talk with her about all the things we...
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Season 1 | Episode 38 | Special Guest, RO Smith -- Questions about Learning RT
[FYI: we re-uploaded this episode w/different bumper music, as it created issues with Spotify and licensing] Welcome to Episode 38 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We wanted to do something different in this podcast, so we had on special guest RO Smith. Spotify | Apple | YouTube RO has been serving in...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to the RT Dialogue with your co-hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith | Sound and Video Engineer RO Smith
In this podcast we desire to make connections, build community, and learn and practice the model of Restoration Therapy. More at: https://rtdialogue.substack.com/
Note:The podcast is labeled with an explicit rating because some episodes contain topics that are distressing to individuals, or inappropriate for minors (i.e. trauma, abuse, sexuality, substance use, etc.)
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