EPISODE · Jun 2, 2025 · 42 MIN
Season 5 - Listening to connect: how understanding beliefs can transform public health
from UCL Minds · host UCL
In this episode of Public Health Disrupted, hosts Xand van Tulleken and Rochelle Burgess dive into how we form beliefs, and how they shape our understanding of critical public health issues. From vaccination hesitancy to climate change, the episode explores the psychological mechanisms that lead to entrenched views and the challenges of changing minds. Joining them are Mia Forbes Pirie, a leading international mediator, and Dr. Kris De Meyer, Director of the UCL Climate Action Unit. Together, they share their insights on effective communication strategies that prioritise relationship-building over persuasion, emphasising the importance of empathy and understanding in discussions surrounding contentious topics. In this episode: - How beliefs are formed and why they can become entrenched. - The role of cultural identity in shaping opinions and the fear of social rejection. - Practical strategies for engaging with differing viewpoints and fostering meaningful dialogue. Public Health Disrupted is produced by UCL Health of the Public and edited by Annabelle Buckland at Decibelle Creative / @decibelle_creative. Transcription link: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/health-of-public/news-and-events/public-health-disrupted/season-5-ep-2-listening-connect-notes-and-transcript Date of episode recording: 2025-03-10T00:00:00Z Duration: 00:42:35 Language of episode: English Presenter:Xand van Tulleken; Rochelle Burgess Guests: Mia Forbes Pirie; Kris De Meyer Producer: Fran Goldman (Producer) Annabelle Buckland (Editor)
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In this episode of Public Health Disrupted, hosts Xand van Tulleken and Rochelle Burgess dive into how we form beliefs, and how they shape our understanding of critical public health issues. From vaccination hesitancy to climate change, the episode explores the psychological mechanisms that lead to entrenched views and the challenges of changing minds. Joining them are Mia Forbes Pirie, a leading international mediator, and Dr. Kris De Meyer, Director of the UCL Climate Action Unit. Together, they share their insights on effective communication strategies that prioritise relationship-building over persuasion, emphasising the importance of empathy and understanding in discussions surrounding contentious topics. In this episode: - How beliefs are formed and why they can become entrenched. - The role of cultural identity in shaping opinions and the fear of social rejection. - Practical strategies for engaging with differing viewpoints and fostering meaningful dialogue. Public Health Disrupted is produced by UCL Health of the Public and edited by Annabelle Buckland at Decibelle Creative / @decibelle_creative. Transcription link: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/health-of-public/news-and-events/public-health-disrupted/season-5-ep-2-listening-connect-notes-and-transcript Date of episode recording: 2025-03-10T00:00:00Z Duration: 00:42:35 Language of episode: English Presenter:Xand van Tulleken; Rochelle Burgess Guests: Mia Forbes Pirie; Kris De Meyer Producer: Fran Goldman (Producer) Annabelle Buckland (Editor)
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