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Season 6 Episode 1: Debating a Pro-DeSantis Dem/Ben Fong on the History of the CIO (Podcast Version)

from Give Them An Argument · host Ben Burgis

We're baaaaack!In the first GTAA episode of 2024, host Ben Burgis debates op-ed columnist Will Cooper, a liberal Democrat who nevertheless thinks that Ron DeSantis is more "competent" than Biden or Trump. Ben wrote a Jacobin article a while back responding to Will and arguing that this zany take is an extreme symptom of a much larger problem with mainstream technocratic liberalism. Caucus night in Iowa seemed like an excellent time to revisit the argument!Before that, we talk about Ben's run-in with Red Scare host Dasha Nekrasova and a few other interesting developments that happened while we've been off the air. At the end of the main show, Damage magazine editor Benjamin Fong talks about his fascinating new limited-series podcast on the history of the CIO. And in the postgame for patrons, we have some fun with Alex Jones's appearance on the Jimmy Dore show.Read Will's original op-ed ("A Democrat's Case for DeSantis"):https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/06/18/democrats-case-for-desantis/Read Ben's response ("Why Are Liberals' Constantly Fixated on 'Competence' Instead of Politics?"):https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/06/18/democrats-case-for-desantis/https://jacobin.com/2023/06/liberals-competence-democrats-ron-desantis-biden-trump-presidential-election-2024Check out Ben (Fong)'s new show ("Organize the Unorganized"):https://shows.acast.com/619be5c0705138001b9c8479/episodes/659337cd906c7e0016284aaa?Follow Ben (Burgis) on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisRead the weekly philosophy Substack:benburgis.substack.comVisit benburgis.com

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We're baaaaack! In the first GTAA episode of 2024, host Ben Burgis debates op-ed columnist Will Cooper, a liberal Democrat who nevertheless thinks that Ron DeSantis is more "competent" than Biden or Trump. Ben wrote a Jacobin article a while back responding to Will and arguing that this zany take is an extreme symptom of a much larger problem with mainstream technocratic liberalism. Caucus night in Iowa seemed like an excellent time to revisit the argument! Before that, we talk about Ben's ...

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