Self-Driving Infrastructure Starts with Security: Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, on Vercel's New deepsec Security Harness

Malte Ubl, CTO at Vercel, joins us to discuss deepsec, Vercel's open-source AI security harness designed to scan entire codebases for vulnerabilities using coding agents like Claude and Codex. We explore why software engineering is shifting from programming models to programming agent harnesses, how deepsec scales security reviews across millions of lines of code, when AI token spend is justified, and why Vercel is betting on AI Gateways, microVM sandboxes, and self-driving infrastructure to power the next generation of software development.