EPISODE · May 7, 2026 · 41 MIN
“Senator Mark Kelly versus Pete Hegseth”
from Deadline: White House · host Nicolle Wallace, Admiral John Kirby, David French, Rep. Jim Himes, Charlotte Howard
Nicolle Wallace covers the feud between Senator Mark Kelly and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Senator Kelly was part of a video where he told men and women of the military that they are allowed to ignore illegal orders. Hegseth has since moved to censure Kelly, a move that would strip Kelly of rank and pay. Later, Nicolle covers Marco Rubio’s journey to the Vatican to meet Pope Leo. His visit comes after Trump relentlessly attacked the Pope for advising the American people to be against the war in Iran. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewh To listen to this show and other MS NOW podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nicolle Wallace covers the feud between Senator Mark Kelly and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Senator Kelly was part of a video where he told men and women of the military that they are allowed to ignore illegal orders. Hegseth has since moved to censure Kelly, a move that would strip Kelly of rank and pay.
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