EPISODE · Jul 31, 2025 · 51 MIN
SEO in an AI-First World: How to Adapt and Win in 2025 with Andrei Țiț
from The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five) · host Exit Five
#269 AI Search & SEO | In this episode, Dave is joined by Andrei Țiț, Head of Product Marketing at Ahrefs, a leading SEO tool trusted by marketers around the world. Andrei has been on the front lines of how AI is reshaping search and what that means for marketers trying to stay visible in an AI-first world.Dave and Andrei cover:Why branded search volume is now a top indicator of visibility in AI-generated results (and how to grow it)The new playbook for SEO in 2025, including what metrics to track beyond traffic and backlinksActionable tactics to get your brand mentioned by AI search tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google’s AI OverviewsWhether you’re a marketing leader or an SEO newbie, this episode will help you rethink your approach to content, attribution, and brand in the AI era.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (01:00) - – Why this was Exit Five’s most-registered webinar ever (03:20) - – Meet Andrei from Ahrefs (05:00) - – Is SEO dead? Not quite, but it’s harder than ever (06:40) - – AI traffic is growing fast (63% of sites already see it) (07:30) - – Why brand is your best SEO defense (10:00) - – How Google measures brand impact (keywords, mentions, clicks) (13:00) - – Calculating content ROI with traffic value (15:30) - – Why branded search volume predicts AI visibility (19:30) - – How to track brand mentions in ChatGPT, Perplexity & AI Overviews (22:30) - – AI traffic = fewer clicks, better leads (26:00) - – How to improve your visibility in AI-generated answers (33:00) - – Why backlinks matter less and PR matters more (40:00) - – New rules for writing content LLMs can surface (49:00) - – Final takeaways: metrics to watch and content to prioritize Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.Webflow - A website platform built for the agentic web, letting modern marketing teams build fully custom sites that perform in AI search with no developer needed. Learn more at webflow.com/for/exitfive.Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.Compound Growth Marketing - A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more
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