September 26, 2021 | On GPS: The French Ambassador to the U.S., Philippe Étienne, on upset over the AUKUS deal; Iraqi President Barham Salih on watching the fall of Kabul from Baghdad; Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven on his country’s COVID-19 experiment

Fareed talks to Philippe Étienne, the French ambassador to the U.S., who is still in Paris after being recalled due to the AUKUS submarine deal. He discusses mending the close alliance between France and the U.S. Fareed also sits down with Iraqi President Barham Salih to discuss how the fall of Afghanistan impacted Iraq and how he plans to get Iraqis out of the vicious cycle of Middle East conflict. Then, Fareed talks to Stefan Löfven, the prime minister of Sweden, to talk about his country’s unique covid-19 strategy: how it has affected the health and the economy of the Swedish people. After lots of talk and little action on climate change, Fareed talks with Katharine Hayhoe, the chief scientist for The Nature Conservancy, about what humans can do, on an individual and collective level, to start the transition from fossil fuel dependent lifestyles to clean energy lifestyles. Plus, a look at Taiwan’s fragile democracy in the shadow of China. GUESTS: Philippe Étienne, Barham Salih, Stefan Löfven, Katharine Hayhoe To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices