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EPISODE · Jul 8, 2026 · 43 MIN

Serve First, Sell Never: Relationship Marketing w/ Chelsea Vonder Haar

from He Said, She Said: Razor Branding™ Podcast

Most mortgage companies compete on rate. Chelsea Vonder Haar competes on relationship. In this episode of He Said, She Said: Razor Branding™, Jaci and Michael talk with Chelsea Vonder Haar, the first-ever Chief Marketing Officer at USA Mortgage, about building a national marketing engine for 200+ loan officers — without stadium naming rights or a massive ad budget. Chelsea breaks down how her team uses direct mail, video, and local partnerships to make individual loan officers more valuable to their referral partners, not to promote the corporate brand. She covers EDDM, QR tracking, first-time homebuyer seminars, and why she treats her internal loan officers like clients — plus her path from marketing coordinator to CMO in an industry that too often treats marketing as a cost to cut. If you’re a B2B marketer building a referral engine in a commodity-driven industry, this one’s for you.

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