Inspiration now in session inspired guys My wife thinks I'm crazy. How do we get here? I can't believe y'all let me have a show Guys people I see you let me admire you he gave you vision and purpose, but you struggle to dream because the seat of a song Wasn't this to your jeans, but was in them was denim. I guess was in them is in them There's a different perspective that I'm trying to present them.
They don't always piece when you see the piece I it'll make you a Levi cuz you right Levi's what's up people? I am your host Jay will and I would like to welcome you to inspire guys people where we balance Faith in business to guide you to your purpose Successful or Christian in business is not just about the bottom line, but about values All right, let's kick it on this Um sometimes being a Christian entrepreneur or business person can be pretty tough. Let's just be real about that you feel what I'm saying Mostly because there are a lot of more things That we have to consider you know in day-to-day business, you know having work Three seconds into the show messing up words. We were doing so good.
Please forgive me I'm having morals values ethics those type of things You know they can put you at a disadvantage because you can't be just savage sometimes You can't just only think about the money and you know make deals that only benefit you when your company At least with a clear conscience spiritually, right? So today I want to focus a little bit on values in particular And I want to walk through some things and hopefully help you balance this out in yo I'm a Christian and I'm working in this industry and I'm trying to grow in this career or I own this business And I'm trying to balance right because we know that business can be a dog eat dog world And a lot of times when you enter into those type of worlds What happens is it causes you to compromise and blend in with that world or that industry versus you being able to be a Christian At all times and in all things So let's maybe simplify like values. Let's define them right in you know You look up definitions and there's gonna be different variations, but for the most part values just represent You know whatever your standard, you know what I mean or your principles are So if you have kind of like a standard behavior Parameters that you said it would be something like hey, you're going on a first date and you already know that you're not going to kiss that person Those are your values the importance of values for anyone in life is like they guide you they help you and when they're set You know prior to being in a situation I think I haven't looked up any data on this or nothing But I think that is gonna help you have a higher opportunity to actually live up to your values So what am I saying? I don't want to be a person that waits to create values or establish values or principles in which I'm gonna do business Until I'm at this level of business because then it's gonna be too late Then I'm probably gonna be too tempted and when that happens to us in life a lot of times We fail many times we fail just because we haven't set parameters on the front end And it's like man had I sat down and thought about yo What is the value you know my values for my show like where am I gonna go?
What type of deals do I already know like yo? I'm not gonna accept the deal where I have to do this You know what type of things do you know areas or lanes and I like yeah That's ideal for me and what God has caught me to do And so the first thing we got to do is actually set some values because here's you got to act yourself How can I live up to values that I haven't established? So as entrepreneurs and business people if we haven't set down and actually figured out like what am I gonna do? What am I not going to do?
Look what you're not gonna do is just as important as what you are gonna do because like I said for that person going on That first date that has already established. I'm not gonna kiss What happens is that opportunity or that temptation to kiss is gonna present itself at some point in life And I don't want us to be the type of people that a lot of ourselves and think we're just gonna walk through life as Christians and Oh, I'm dramatic. I have the inspire God's people show I'm never gonna be tempted no Because that's a lie and so you know as human beings we have to be real with ourselves So that's just values in general right now and we've done this in the corporate world You know where I this is where I really started seeing this happen a lot myself is for an individual to establish core values Okay, so you know what values are in general, but you need to start establishing what your core values are So I remember one time we had a new big boss in the office that I was working in and she came in and you know She had this big meeting and brought everyone in and she put some things on some slides on the board and one of the things was Hey, these are my core values. So it would it could be something like, you know arriving one time It could be um, you know effort and passion so she might have a list of like three or four things that she walked through It's like hey, I'm always gonna be on time.
I'm always gonna have put forth a certain amount of effort You're never gonna have to wonder, you know If I'm tapped into the plan the division and she laid this off for her team to communicate to them Here's what you can expect from me and again This was her first day or at least not her first day her first meeting so it could have been her first week or something What's my point when you establish your core values with people on the front end then not only does it allow you to understand What your principles are and what your standard is but you also start setting out what other people because look That's important in business like it's not just about you for me with this show It's not just about me knowing like yo, this is what I want to do Notice especially the last few weeks I've been kind of giving hints and throwing out things to let you guys know This is the direction of this show if you didn't already know if it wasn't obvious But establishing those values and those core values to say hey, this is what inspire guys people is about we are genuine We are authentic. We are not messy. We are not petty We're not going to argue with people and we're not going to be trendy Ultimately, I believe in being proactive versus reactive and Essentially what that has helped me to do is say I don't need a story to break to record a show So I don't have to wait around for the news and something crazy to happen in the end I can report it to y'all even if you haven't thought about that before you don't listen to this show for gossip like some shows And some you know outlets or whatever you go to him because it's like oh such and such You know did something crazy so I know they gonna be talking about it on this so let me tune in and it's like okay cool That's not what this show is about that's not my vibe and that's not my vision That's not what I believe God wants me to do because I believe what God wants me to do I don't have to wait on other things to happen to do it. I believe it's proactive is biddly-glee based it's sound doctor Yo, I'm gonna be silly.
That's just part of who I am. I'm not gonna change who I am to fit into some mode We are proactive over here. So that gives you an idea some of my core values Those are important because you listen into this show every week and you want to share the show with people So this is super important for those of us who are trying to grow or grow a business, right? You want to communicate those core values so that when growth happens the new people coming in it's already established So like y'all I want you to be comfortable sharing the show with someone and knowing like yo You got to check this out because my man gonna always be sound he gonna always be chilling He gonna be a little crazy, but it's always gonna be about balancing faith and business So we're not gonna go too far into business to where you like oh man I like how you talk about business, but he's not a Christian.
So he talking crazy. He doesn't have biblical standards You get what I'm saying like how this is important for you and your life and your business to start communicating and establishing your core values To yourself and the people around you you know what I'm saying So I wrote a value statement and I'm trying to think of a way that instead of doing mine I don't know man. You're gonna have to just look it up It's because I don't want to say mine just because it's not it's simple But it's just something to me It's like from me to me that I try to live by and I say it to myself Maybe a couple times a month I don't do the everyday type thing But it's kind of a reminder to myself you need a value statement to yourself something that you're writing yourself to remind yourself like This is what you said you wanted to do This is where you said you wanted to go and remind yourself because we all lose track man Listen if you find yourself in a place where you've lost track or you're losing track you're human That's normal it happens sometimes so it's like you losing track or you maybe you already off-tracking You need to get back on don't settle for being off track We understand it happens to the best of us We have bad days bad moments bad years regrets and things we have to repent from and change our lives around But I truly believe that you could change like I believe people can change and grow because I changed in group And I'm still growing and so when you go through something personally it allows you to see like okay It can happen, but what I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that I know You got to want it if you don't want it ain't gonna happen So if you think values this week and you think this corny and you like this soft whatever it's cool You ain't never gonna be feeling what I'm saying like that's why I don't bother me You know in some ways how people feel about me because it's like yeah Like I would feel that way about me too if I was living a life you was living you know what I'm saying like I don't know Whatever that's a whole nother show Lastly for those of us who are entrepreneurs or even work in a corporate field in business You know we got to understand what a value proposition is so a value proposition now you're thinking about your company your organization This is basically I guess the best way to say it is it's something that makes your company or service or product unique It's what's going to attract people to your business if you deal with investors like just watch shark tank A lot of times they'll ask people like what's your value proposition and what they're basically saying is okay? You come on here and you bake brownies and you're like I'm a brownie baker I got the best brownies in the world we making brownies in South Carolina You ain't ever tasted nothing like this and Damon look at you and Lori they look at you and they say well What's your value proposition you like well?
What's that name in the Lord? Well, we've had brownies before there's a million brownies out there Why would a person eat your brownies and then you're like oh cuz these are energy brownies? It's like oh these got caffeine in them and it's like oh that you get a value proposition So it's the same thing as a zero calorie cookie or something like a fat-free bag of chips It's like the value proposition for that particular bag of chips is oh these are Doritos but these organic or fat-free like though that's a value proposition and You have to establish that for your business or your product or your podcast, right? So what is the value proposition of inspire guys people and what you'll see as is as you have core values and a value statement All of these things should work in unison to communicate the same message So if someone asked me like well, what's the value proposition of inspire guys people and for me?
It's a couple of simple things number one. This is literally a faith in business show for Christians So it's like okay off the top you don't really get that a lot of times you get shows that are either super churchy or Super business focus. There's a demographic there, right? Because I got a young vibe like you know is the person silly faith in business are two very serious topics That people tend to tackle in a very serious tone this show is very practical So you're looking at spirituality faith in business in a very practical and light-hearted sense and you know we play music and different things Like that so as you start crafting these things and communicating them to people more and more That's why even you know, we're almost at a year with this show.
I tell I tell pretend man. I can't talk man. Who can teach me how to talk out there I tell pretend represents one year for this show and you know I'm starting to define and refine and kind of work on communicating What the show is to people because I want you to communicate what it is to people like I want people to share it The show is growing the show is gonna continue to grow Lord's willing So that's values value proposition core values all that hopefully you can take that away and start crafting it for your business and your life And your family and your marriage like you can set values value propositions core values value statements for anything in life And almost everything in life. So let's do this.
Let's take a break and jump into the J-wheel music song of the day I'm going way back with this when the 2013 this was a single that I dropped just kind of randomly we shot a video LaVell is actually in the video So if you want to see that just go to YouTube and type in J-wheel music with one L JW I L M-U S I see the song is entitled heaven only knows of course it's produced by the real red Campbell junior when we come back I have Gabriel Parker in studio with me again and we're gonna have a dope conversation and I don't know if something don't happen after that We might get social depending on how much time we have if not y'all catch the social stuff next week because I got some good topics for that And also hopefully LaVell Neil will be back in studio soon me and him are working on our schedules to get him back in for another LaVell Yeah, so we didn't gave up on him, you know, we still LaVell heaven only knows J-wheel music will be right back You just heard heaven only knows by yours truly J-wheel music produced by the real red Campbell junior You know why that song is kind of special to me man when I look back to what is now six years ago, right? I talk about it on this show all the time the process We're all going through a process and we have to be patient and sometimes you feel like you want things to happen tomorrow The time flies man, you know, and as I look back like wow This was six years ago and I listen to the words of the song if you really ever want to know like what was I thinking and what was I You know my experience doing a certain point in time listen to my music Like I try my best to artistically Create reality, you know and and things that I'm really thinking about in going through when I listen back to this song I can remember I was trying to find my way it's like a whole thing like heaven only knows and As I think about where I am today and the things that the Lord has blessed me with in the growth that I've been able to experience I think like yeah, it was worth it. It was worth it to you know Have the lonely moments the lonely days it was worth it to really spend some time in the work It was worth it to be in the background for a while and just try to figure things out You know what I mean? Like you don't always have to have it figured out So I hope and pray that that encourages someone man like that I don't know like that just like that touch me You know I'm saying can I be touched like can I feel touched on the show?
You know I'm saying like why y'all judging me right now like was really good with that kind of brother Listen back and reminisce and being nostalgic and be like yep. Thank you Lord for what you're giving me today I'm so grateful for these people. You know what I'm saying like I think I feel you Man whatever. All right, let's move on man.
I got my homie Gabriel Parker in the studio and You know, I think we about that I'm not gonna need to call these segments something when I have a guest on the show that's not LaVille or maybe that's not right I'm not saying I'll give people personal segments. You know saying like theme songs It took LaVille a while to get a theme song so LaVille if you listen it Don't be jealous. I'm away I ain't gonna get nobody song or nothing like gay probably gonna come back on the show again the next year or something Like I don't like them like that so y'all ain't got to worry You know I'm saying he ain't that cool, but I figure since I got him here a man as well utilizing you know I'm saying for free. Oh, he ain't getting it down.
He ain't getting it down Gay Parker what up gay what up man man since I had you here I was like yo, you know I'm saying we we might as well keep kicking it I have the 10th operation interviews that I try to kind of keep at a certain level But I wanted to talk to you beyond that just because we are always talking and I figured why not bring some of the topics and things That we kick about kick it about to my show And so I don't know what this segment is gonna be called or if this something that I'm ever gonna do again But since I got my boy in the studio, we just gonna kick it. Yeah, so um look here's what I want to talk about Which is really what we've already kind of been talking about in our personal time So I'm just gonna bring it to the show I've been noticing lately man That the church on my hand seems to be growing and growing rapidly from the standpoint of Popularity from branding like you know, I've gone to a lot of churches um and just fellowship with different believers or something any of my wife do and I noticed some really good things like there's a lot of good churches out here and I've met some great people Continue to meet great people one of the things that concerned me or I'm like kind of confused or perplexed about is like You know in my community for instance, it's like really nice churches popping up left and right I mean they have it all I'm talking about you can drink the coffee in the service like it's like oh no You don't know it's churches popping you know I'm saying but I'm Looking then across referencing that with like my social media timeline Which people on this show noted I use social media really just as a way to observe analyze collect data on what we're doing And how we're living and one of the things that I'm like, I'm cross referencing I'm like man So on one hand the church is growing but then it seems like in people's personal lives and from a lifestyle perspective People seem to be getting further away from God. So you have believers who are really, you know Kind of becoming friends with the world. So I just want to get your perspective on this go anywhere There's no real one direction.
I just want to go out here and see what you know see what you got what you think Yeah, I think I see it too, you know I'm saying and I think that what's happening is the church is becoming has become better at branding and packaging And in that but I think on the other end Our value for branding has caused us to not value sound doctrine and biblical principles As much, you know because because the purpose of branding like you and I are both sales guys You know marketing, you know, I've worked in sales and marketing for the last 10 years You've been saying as well as 10 years, you know, and we know as far as customer service and branding You know the purpose is to pull the customer in is almost an approach of the customers on always right. Yes sense But the thing about us as the church and when it comes to sound doctrine the customer isn't a hoey's right, okay? I like that. You know what I'm saying?
You know, we're trying to figure out how to make the foolishness of the gospel Not come off as foolish. All right. All right. So look, I know I'm saying a lot No, no, no, no, like you this is good because because there's something that you said to me Maybe a couple months ago I don't know if it's what we tried with the Mississippi together that you said this or if it was on the phone But this was a great point that you brought up and you just mentioned this customer service thing I really want to like really dig into that real quick because you broke down some things to me about customer service and Why we don't why it's a tricky thing in the church because of the authenticity?
And I think and I don't want to mess it up So I want you to kind of take over from here But you were kind of telling me in general look when you go to a store a person has to have good customer service to you But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're really being authentic that they really like you outside of that Oh, yeah, yeah, so, you know, I've just to kind of give you guys a background I've ran an auto glass repair business for the last eight years and I provide my service In oil changes right now currently and so I've worked at oil changes Where the workers in the oil change will speak polite to the customer and hey, you know great Have a nice day as soon as the customer drives off They curse and after the customer like man, that's that beer? You know, like they just going in like whoa, and so it's like okay the customer service was a front Man, you know what I'm saying to how it was a front or a mask to mask how they really felt about that person And so what I'm seeing in the church is There's a there's a there's a false advertisement aspect to to the church is what you getting on the front Yeah, versus what is happening on the back end and I look I really want to make sure that people understand this point Yeah, it's yes, if I go to Chick-fil-A, they have great service. Yes I'm really just there for a chicken sandwich I don't care if the cashier really likes me or if they get your heart is really in it But here's the thing selling chicken ain't the gospel right and so here's the tricky thing We want to build churches that have great customer service where you're smiling and you're welcoming right but we don't want fake Customer service and we talk about this a lot with um just artists Like especially like in the Christian realm of artists. We've been around some artists that have great customer service Yeah, they say all the right things on the stage in front of their fans But when you actually meet them in real life, it's not a consistency there and I think I think what's happening Jay is um with with this There's a there's a component.
Okay. We can't let branding in our our desire to get people in seats cause us to sacrifice the message Meaning I want people so bad that I'm not gonna call homosexuality sin Right. I want people so bad that I'm not gonna tell them to repent in turn from Fornication and turn from whatever their sin is because I don't want to push people away And so are you implying potentially that as the church there are times where some of us may be guilty of providing good customer service Just to keep the line wrapped around the building 100% Let me give you an example and I talked about this on one of my shows I used to drink vitamin water every day I Viedemar. I loved vitamin water.
It was like my flavor flavor was triple x and then it was another flavor And I at the time when I was running my business I was working outside so I was working on the elements fixing windshield like in the summer like 95 degree days And so based off of the advertisements of vitamin water They marketed it as a sports drink or a drink that will hydrate you and give you energy back if you're To talk about healthy. Yeah, I thought it was healthy. So I'm like man. I'm about to try vitamin water I tried that joint.
It was fire. I'm like man. This tastes great too. And so every day or at least every other day I would have one or two vitamin waters at you know just to kind of repurpose my strength and stuff living and sin drinking a triple Ex drink.
Yeah So so so so what happened was I began to notice after each time I drank the vitamin water actually felt worse So I thought maybe it's because of the candy I'm eating during I eat candy and stuff I'm like I don't know it can't be this drink because the commercial said yeah It's gonna help me and so it wasn't until I was working with one of my one of my managers One of the guys that was working for me. He was a health guy. He was into bodybuilding and health and nutrition And I'm like man. He saw me like man.
I don't feel good like this He like and I told him like man. I drink these vitamin waters. They they're not really helping me He's like man vitamin waters are terrible for you. I'm like what I was actually offended I was mad at him But telling me the truth because I wanted to believe the false advertisement And he begins and he's like hey look and he turned the bottle around He stars reading off the ingredients on the bottle and telling me what these things are And he read off one particular things like a fructose syrup like high fructose corn syrup I don't think it was that one.
It was another one that was like a big word. He was like this gate This is worse than any pop or energy drink. He's like a vitamin water is actually worse than energy drinks and pop gate That's why you're feeling like that. Wow from that day on I've never drank another big vitamin water because I was literally offended I was mad at vitamin water for selling me something that wasn't true And I think the and so here let me bring it together.
So this is what I believe the church does sometimes We we sell people a Jesus That isn't consistent with scripture. So I guess I'm in the door Guess I'm in the door and then what so you know you join his church or you come to this church because You are now believing in and serving the Jesus of your ambitions the Jesus gene You know that gives you everything and at what point does it break down at what point does it do it does a person? What happens? What's the you know, what is like just with like vitamin water?
What's the best? Okay, so this might this is probably where there may be some differences in the analogy, but there's still similarities There's two sides to this coin you have the people who come in and they realize that they're being manipulated And so they just done with Christianity altogether like yo You guys are telling me that if I do this and I do that God is going to answer me The church is put pushing like a prosperity type gospel. That's you though So like so that part is the person that was like you with the vitamin water That's the person that was upset when they found out that this doesn't do what you said If I pay like if I pay my tithes if I come to church faithfully Um pay my tithes God is going to give me a new promotional my job or God is going to bless me with a child or God is going to Like if I do ABC and D God is going to do this for conditional God based on these conditions And then when when you do those things and you gave your last and then don't happen Yeah, and things actually start going worse. Right.
Oh, the church was manipulating me I'm out. I'm done These are the people that leave the church and they become the voices on social media on on youtube or whatever These become the voices speaking against Christianity rebels rebels And the bible says that somewhere like peter because of false prophets and false teaching the name of crisis blaspheme Wow, and that's what it means like False doctrine gives the true gospel a bad name So we have to be careful If we if we find ourselves wanting to grow something so bad whether it be a podcast like we both have shows Or whether it be as an artist you want oh, I want my album to reach people so bad That i'm going to start giving them the jesus. They want instead of the jesus of the bible Yes, and the other side of that coin usually benefits people who are ambitious. They like, okay This is this is something this is something.
Okay. This is something that I can actually excel in Right. I'm not leaving I just want to work to get a title. I want to become deacon or I want to become minister I want to become praise and worship leader.
You've passed her I can actually build up my name in this system. So the church represents an opportunity. Yes So for people You know a lot of people may not understand how this works and I know you've covered On your show, you know You've played clips from like some of these praise and worship leaders who are who become famous and walk away from the faith Yes who utilized the church system the customer service system Became beloved artists. They're super talented.
Here's something that people got to realize too like This stuff is tricky because people's talent is so great. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yeah, you're hitting the nail on the head See people people grow in church culture, but they never grow in God They grow in politics the politics of church But they never growing not in the knowledge of Christ and those are those are two different things And so you have talented people because the church is focusing on branding This is kind of bringing it back to yeah, the church has become become so focused on branding that sound doctrine has taken a back seat A lot of these pastors they want to grow their brands And so there's a certain sound a certain look A certain charisma that where i'm looking for to feel in leadership positions in my church So my praise and worship singer has to be talented. They have to be attractive. Yep. They have to dress cool They have to have charisma.
It's a personality thing. I'm gonna throw this in here. Here's something i've been noticing Just because I observe so much Praise and worship leaders now have to have or seem to have to have based on what i've seen And i'm sure this isn't the case everywhere, but i'm seeing it a lot They have to be very diverse And so they have to be like, okay, if it's a you know a black guy He has to have that vibe that's kind of like kind of like um It's centric suburban where he can talk to both sides, but he still got some little swag Like and if it's same thing if it's a white girl, she has to kind of be maybe um have this slight um Contemporary edge tour where like and i'm noticing like and again want to be clear Nothing wrong with being like that because some of us that's our natural personality That's who we are the the challenge becomes this when you're the pastor and you're looking for that more than you're looking for a person Who sound and has a foundation on the word and i want to say this because if you find someone who is talented And and they do not have the foundation of the word a guy and you're not saved and they don't understand salvation What you should be doing if you're going to even entertain an idea or thought of having them on a platform is make sure That you are not allowing their platform to outgrow their spirituality And so you should be whether to be pulling them aside and having personal bible studies or whatever to ensure that the Foundation of who they are as a christian continues to grow yes 100 Here's the hard part about this jay that a lot of Pastors and leaders church leaders aren't willing to do It's hard sometimes the best thing for for people to help develop people is to sit them down But how are you gonna sit them down and they tell them so good and they pull it exactly how do you they're such a great speaker This is where it speaks to your value system. What do you value more?
Do you value what you can get from them? Um in terms of they're gonna pull people in so are you gonna entertain them you become yeah Are you gonna just use them or are you really caring for their spiritual development? Wait, hold on. Hold on.
Hold on because we gotta we gotta understand this. We gotta get I gotta make sure i'm hearing you right So what you're saying is if i'm the pastor And I have a praise and worship leader or a musician or a young minister people like us right who has a podcast and goes around in pre Different places and he and he or she is not where they need to be spiritually if I love them So if if my pastor notices that jamais and I know you got the show I know you're doing music you're traveling But but something isn't right with you right now If he loves me he'll tell me to sit down for a minute It's it's hard because it's it's hard like because when you're benefiting from someone You'll you'll ignore certain things. Wow like this is why Some of the most talented people are crazy. I don't know where i'm talking about in the chart You have you have some of the most talented people in their drunks They're they're prima donna like they need attention.
They just Kanye West type Kanye West type is like you know from a From a talent perspective. He's a talented guy, but he's out of his mind I'm not gonna say that. I'm using on talking about Yeah, but I can say to the spirit of You look I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna say no names on the gospel in I'm trying to be cool because like People be having people be fans and I say something about somebody that they're a fan of they just block you out here social Relations, yeah, but look it's people in the gospel side. That's like that They may not be a spotlight on them like it is on a Kanye West, but they have breakdowns rants just like Kanye and stuff But what happens is it's almost like a pimp and prostitute relationship in a sense The pimp only cares more about what he can get from the prostitute and I know that's extreme You know a lot about this man.
Look man. You can triple No, no, look I want to say this no that that's really good. Um, I think what happens is we get it mixed up We think that if we love someone because I see this from a point of view, right? Yeah, so if you have a gospel artistry preacher and they lose in a mind right before us all and they talk in crazy interviews or whatever We tend to think that if we love them we'll let them continue to talk like that and we'll put them on platforms What you are suggesting is that if we love them will do the exact opposite I think this is important because love is not a feeling You have to base as believers what love is based on the word of God and what we're talking about is putting the foundation of who someone is spiritually Making sure that they are soul is saved right and making that a priority and when you're sitting them down Look you you might be doing it out of love if someone if someone sits me down It might literally be because they like yo jamay.
I know the show's growing I know you're doing well But I'm concerned about you and Tiffing and so I need you to put the show on the back burner for three months While we focus on your marriage because we don't want the show to become bigger than you are spiritually Yes, so what you're talking about okay, we think Attention is good right um meaning in terms of discipleship and accountability But we tend to think that all attention is good All attention isn't good like it's hard to disciple somebody from the stage when you're giving them power Got you like I'm putting you before hundreds of people every morning or thousands of people in some churches And you're literally leading them in worship and they're they're following your every command And then I want to when you come off stage I want to talk to you about your porn addiction or I want to talk to you about your your cousin or your mouth And so it's hard to disciple people from the stage And so a lot of times you have to pull that power or not even put them in that position like something not ready They're not ready. They're not ready. See we're putting people in positions before they're ready Like let's look at Paul when Paul first got saved now. He was a Pharisee of Pharisees Pharisees memorized the Torah They didn't have to have a book like they knew it by heart Right, he knew that all the testimony by heart once he gave us like the Christ He knew like he knew this stuff.
He could have went right into ministry He sat down for three years apostle Paul sat down for three years when he first got saved before he started his ministry So all right, look this this this is really good What what I'm hearing is that we're living a saved life in the fast lane Yeah, so we're trying to go on the fast track road to success Skipping the process that everybody knows is important an important word on this show is the process And what you're talking about is saying listen, I know you're talented jamae I know you can go speak. I know you can go rap and do all those things But listen bro, it might take you five years until you're ready for the the impact of the stage because here's what we both know Um, even just on a you know, maybe let's call it a smaller small to medium scale of whether it be traveling or going to preach at different churches and things like that Which we both have done right there is responsibility that comes with this stuff Listen, if you are not rooted and grounded in the word The the thing that you think is an opportunity or success can literally ruin your life 100% And one of the things I had to realize jay was we have to understand that our desire for God Um, it's not always we have to learn how to separate our desire for God and our ambition to do things for God Like what I mean by that do I want God when I have nothing to gain from it Oh in terms of our opportunity. So when there when there is no thousand people before me You're not preaching or I'm not sitting at the front and all that do I still love God? I was like or is God just a career choice.
Yeah, it is is me is my serving God always connected to me being put on display Is me serving God always connected to a greater platform? So me self-serving so so it's possible To create and develop a self-serving relationship with God Yes, me, Jermaine I only serve you lord if inspire guys people gets picked up by a huge radio station If inspire guys people get picked up by a huge digital outlet if that doesn't happen then I got to look I can't do it your way. I have to go do it my way and I think ultimately what what I really want people to understand about what you're saying It's which is great stuff is we cannot allow the branding and the customer service and doing the right things on paper Prevent us from being truly converted into Christianity as God's people in our spirit because those are the things that will produce more disciples And ensure that we don't just give people a platform because look we not go name names But this stuff happening you give people a platform they become famous off of your christian platform and your church or your organization Then once they get big enough they just want to dip and go to the world and you find out they haven't really believed in God in the last 10 years Anyway, and because no one stopped them in the mist and maybe had a checkup Right and you know you working at the oil chain shop running your business You seeing people coming in for a checkup for oil change, but here's the crazy thing When they come in for the checkup for the oil change you're checking their window to see if it's a crack Right they may find out that it's something that they weren't even looking for that's wrong Right and what I'm saying is that as believers I might need to go and take a break sometimes and go get a checkup and make sure that I'm studying the word to hear something and not just preaching the word and telling something Because I might need a checkup and I might need to know okay german here's some things you need to tweak All right, gave you need to do this that another yeah, and um, you know, so we have to be willing to stop I'm gonna give you the um, you know a minute or so for the last word man, whatever However, you want to kind of wrap up this conversation which um, you know we could go on forever and we'll have to do it again Yeah, if I if I could just encourage everybody out there like it's Like and I've been doing this with myself lately because I have a lot of ambitions and things that I want to do As far as ministry wise we wrap the podcast and everything But one of the things that the Lord has really been dealing with me about is putting those things down taking a break from those things mentally just to focus on him like I have to See the beauty of holiness and see that Christ is truly the prize even even when um, I don't have a microphone in my hand Or I'm not working on the next show or working on the next song or preparing for the next concert I have to value Christ above everything and for and sometimes we can't truly see Christ's beauty until we sit other things down Like we have to be willing that us putting other things down at times and taking a break is us denying ourselves And a lot of times you will not see Christ's beauty until you first deny yourself because it's a lot of times it's self-standing in the way Of you truly seeing him and learning of him and tasting and seeing that he's good So I just want to encourage you guys to do that like to take a break some days take a break from social media Like jay talks about it. You know me and him so he might not talk about it on the air But sometimes we have to unplug like just to get rejuvenated.
You know what I'm saying? Look man. Thank you so much. Gay for a great word man.
We definitely have to do it again Listen guys people. Um, I want y'all to understand and maybe take away as well You know gay just indirectly even alluded to a couple of scriptures like Paul talks in Romans about not thinking too highly of yourself Um, there's um another scripture where Jesus says die daily deny yourself And I think ultimately what we're saying is Christianity is not about embracing Yourself as much as it is about denying yourself and some of us are embracing things in our flesh not realizing that we are Promoting self-righteousness and you can't save yourself. I can't say myself. So thanks a lot man.
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