Shadow People

You're dead out of this world! What's up? Dan, what is going on, man? Right, I feel like I haven't seen you in a while.

We are back. We're back? Season 2. Season 2.

Because we just had to take a break. Yeah, we just had to do other shit for a while. Yeah, a lot of shit going on. A lot of shit went on.

So, was it in the last episode? I don't even care. You like forced me to not talk about Avengers. Yeah, but then I saw Avengers.

How's it levels? I was just thinking that. Did you just see some of them? No, I haven't touched them, but can I do?

Okay. Has made this as new beds. I don't know if you noticed I had to get rid of some of the foam. I'm just covering cat hair.

Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's cats. Is he fine?

What'd you think? I was kind of disappointed. Why? Why?

Because how are you disappointed? I guess we should say right now spoiler warning for the next ten minutes. I don't give a shit. Fuck you if you haven't seen it yet.

Listen. If you haven't seen it yet, turn it off. Go watch it because you're watching it at home. Oh, turn the movie off.

Turn the movie off. I haven't gotten any smarter since then. No. No, but listen.

The reason I'm disappointed is because I didn't want a part two. I wanted a complete story in one fucking movie where I didn't have to wait six years for the next one to come out or whatever. I want a movie that's a whole story. Did you not see a timeline like six years ago?

It's always been two movies. Yeah, I know, but they didn't have like, I just assumed it was going to be one. No, it should have been. No, it shouldn't.

Okay, make it four hours and make it one movie. I don't care. Make it four hours. I'll watch a four hour movie.

Ten years, man. This shit started ten years ago with Iron Man 1. Did it? Yeah.

It was the end of credit scene where Fury is like the Avengers Initiative. I have to look a folder. Yeah. That's where all the shit started.

That's true. Ten years and making you're going to end it all with one movie. Fuck you. I'm not going to show you the whole song.

I'm not going to show you the whole song. I'm not going to show you the whole song. First and Finney's down. Yeah, I guess.

The war. Yeah, I guess. Well, yeah, you're right. I mean, they kind of just absorbed Iron Man and everybody's trying to forget about Iron Man 3 because that was garbage.

Out of all the Marvel movies, there's still two of the Marvel movies. The Marvel movies. The Marvel movies. Not even drinking.

I have all the Marvel movies. There's still two of the scenes. Which one? The second Thor.

That's pretty good. I know. Not nearly as good as the third one. Yeah, I thought there was a Ragnarok.

Yeah. I have to talk about Tika Wotiti. What is that? He is the director of Ragnarok.

And he's also the guy that I thought was Kamehil Nanjiani when I first saw the preview for What We Do In Shadows. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Tika.

Okay. And I'll start with some Black Panther. Which I want to see. I thought you were going to see it.

I'm up again. Yeah, but then I just didn't. But then I just didn't. I'm not into that.

I just like lying to my friends. Whatever Dan feels good to be back in the seat. Does, right? Feels nice.

Yeah. Feels good. Today, man. What are we talking about today?

What are we starting season two with? I've got a lot of stuff to talk about. Yeah. So initially when you said Shadow People, what were you thinking when I first said that?

Because at first you were like, yeah, that sounds dumb because of course I googled it right after that conversation where I'm like, hey man, we need to do this shit again. You're like, oh, okay. Because I'm like, if you don't show up sometime soon. That's going to be the dance show.

Yeah, it's going to be the fucking Dan lives alone show. Fucking Terry's like, you need to call the cheese stands alone. The cheese stands alone. I hated my wife a little bit funny than I am.

You can always do a second podcast. They couldn't stay here. It's a really good point. You know, I thought about it.

I would if I had equipment in my house. I've thought about it, but I thought I'd be offended if I did some shit on my own. Wouldn't care. Really?

Yeah, why would I care? Why are you doing stuff on your own? I mean, everyone listens to this for me. So it's not like it's going to affect these.

So when you first heard Shadow People, what were you thinking? Like in your head? What did you assume Shadow People were? I just thought it was in bullshit.

And then I searched it and I'm like, oh, that's just fucking sleep paralysis. Yeah, that's stupid. It's fun. It's different than just sleep paralysis.

It is different. And we talked about sleep paralysis before. It's not going to happen to me. But I don't have the Shadow People issue with sleep paralysis.

I think we talked about, well, maybe briefly on one that was released. I think we talked a little more extensively on the Dreams episode that either got cut short because I'm dumb and didn't clear the fucking memory card before we started or it was just lost in either. Yeah. I can't remember if we ever released it or not either.

Man, when my wife wasn't threatening to shut it down because we hadn't released anything. And there's a lot of good stuff, but there's a lot of garbage. Oh, there's a ton of garbage. Hot garbage.

I'm like nine, 10 months. So that's just fucking around on microphones. But I feel like maybe it was just practice. It was, man.

Now we're going now. It's time to get back in the groove though because I feel rusty. Yeah, you sounded a little rusty. Thanks.

Your mustache looks a little rusty. Yeah, man. So when you think Shadow People do you think the hat person or the hooded figure to me? Shadow People folk, right?

You know, immediately when you said that, I thought the demon things that come out of the ground in the movie Ghost. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, wasn't that not fucking frightening?

Yeah. I mean, a little bit kudos to a movie called Ghost that's not scary at all. Yeah, it's a love story. And then that one guy who's the villain in the movie for whatever reason because you have to have a villain and then he gets dragged down to hell.

I'm like, oh, that's fucking frightening. Yeah. Yeah, that still bugs me. I was just thinking about it just now.

Yeah, it's very words that I'm thinking. You're so good at this, man. You're so good at speaking. You should totally do your own podcast about me.

Yeah, because I'll be like, yeah, hang on guys. Let me Google this real quick. I'm literally reading it off the screen or piece of paper. So the other thing I was thinking is sleep deprivation, which I'm bordering on now, staying out too late, not enough sleep.

Of course. Of your eyes. Yeah. What was that?

Have you seen that? A little black? I mean, to me, they're like the size of my eyes. I really think it's just my brain trying to shut it down.

Yeah. And I'm fighting it. Well, the first thing that's going to go is a peripheral vision. Yeah, there's language again.

Peripherial. I miss you so much. It makes me happy when you're like peripheral. Peripherial.

Yes, I guess that's the first thing that goes. So you start seeing stuff out of your eyes? Yeah, you know, you're like, you know, I start darting around a little bit. You're like, what?

What did I see? I also hear things when I have been up too long and drank too much. Oh, yeah, yeah. I hear stuff too.

Like, what are you here? I'm curious. I mean, sometimes I like literally hear someone talking. I hear someone talking.

I'm like, what? Like, who's I go look like is the TV on? I'm like, you're here music? Yeah, music.

I hear every hear music in like a constant tone, like, you know, like a fan in the bathroom or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, somebody's playing.

What is that? What do you think I do now? Is that a new thing I do? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've done that like six times so far. This is great. I almost just did it again. As I started speaking.

Yes, I also hear that. Like, something that's droning on and on. Yes. Somehow your brain is putting together something that's not there.

Which is true. That's a tendency of human beings. Yeah. See patterns and hear them, apparently.

Well, but it's real fucked up when you've been awake for like two days and a fan sounds like a punk song that you've never heard before. Like, you ever hear lyrics in a song and there's just an instrumental? Like, what is he saying? It's like, oh wait, there's no words.

Not as often. I actually hear like other instruments. Like, I'll hear like a solo on top of a song in my head. And I'm like, it'd be really cool if this solo is happening right now.

Just add your own instrument to that. Pretty much. You know what's on greatness? Definitely on the banjo.

I was going to add to that somehow. On the fuck. Anyway, do brain play tricks on you, which is the point of what I was saying. And so that's why I was just immediately sort of dismissive of the idea of shadow people because I'm like, I'll sleep paralysis.

It's a little bit maybe bullshit, but it's a worldwide phenomenon. Yeah. I mean, I've got stuff that I want to talk about with one of my favorites, Carlos Castaneda, the famous anthropologist slash author in the Southwest that spent time with the, with the Nebbo. Yeah.

What are you running? I'm just right. I know that I want to talk about that. Are you judging me?

No, that I'm right. Here we go. Therapy. When I was a kid.

When I was a kid. I was a parent. I was young and what was the point of what school? Oh, yeah.

We talked about your troubles. Yeah. Just look good if I went to the university. Do you think there was any benefit?

No, but I only went like twice. And it was when you were young. So you're like, fuck this. Yeah.

You guys don't know me. I'm about once insurance case and I will be going to. It's really not that bad. Yeah.

I go for my medication because I'm slow head, but it is. I mean, I've known the dude for like fucking five years now and it's still unnerving when he's just like jotting shit in his notebook. And I'm like, what did I just say that made you want to write something down? We're not even really having like a quote unquote session right now.

Mostly because I know that costs more. I'm just here to get more drugs from you. You're a modern day pusher. Anyway, what the fuck are you writing that notebook?

Maybe he's just drawing a picture of a cat. That'd be great if it just like randomly stood up. Let me see it. You stand around next to him like, what are you doing?

I just like to make my own Garfield comics. It's like Labaski like the thing with the big dick. Where's it? Jackie Tree Hornshouse.

And Jet Bridges thinks he's being like super sneaky. He's doing the little like trace everything with the pencil. Like, oh, I'm going to see whatever message he was writing. It was just like a doodle of a doodle with a giant dick.

So you ever seen a shadow person? Yes. Have you talked about this before? I feel like I have.

I don't know. I don't think so. This is not bringing up my wood mask. Well, I've experienced what you'd call sleep paralysis.

Okay. So a lot of people think the sleep paralysis is separate from the shadow people from the things that I've looked into. I agree. But anyway, so for people who don't know, sleep paralysis has also been called old hacks syndrome or I don't know what this dude with the fucking hat and the glowing eyes is.

I assume that's the same fucking thing. See whenever I have sleep paralysis, which I do, which is why I sleep on my stomach because if I sleep on my back, I have it. So I mean, so whatever. I got one on one.

I heard you can get it more and you're like, oh, great. I should have read that. Anyway, but it's never a shadowy figure. It's always a very clear thing.

Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, break down one of your experiences.

Oh, you know, just just tell me the story, man. Okay. Sleeping. I thought I was waking up.

I look over and I see my daughter come in the room. Right. It wasn't my daughter realized once she got closer and started panicking, couldn't move. It was like, oh shit, sleep paralysis is the fear, right?

Yeah. Something that she call it sleep fear because it's like a fuck. It's a very intense fear. Yeah.

Like it's uncontrollable. It really is. So your body like has anxiety apparently. So it was a short person or did you get the old?

It was about the size of my daughter. So when she was maybe seven. So really? So you saw like a child?

Yeah. And that's really uncommon. And when I realized it wasn't her, I started freaking out. Couldn't move.

And I woke up and I was like, oh, could I woke up? And then I started floating out of the bed. And I was like, oh, I'm still sleeping. And I look over and boom, they're there again.

Same person. I get chills talking about it, man. I know. That's how you know it's real.

It was so for people who don't know what sleep process is or old head syndrome. There's a phenomenon that's very common throughout history all over the world for this feeling that someone is, some thing is either trying to kill you or keep you from breathing. And what happens is you think anyway, probably might be in an awake state. It's like your brain's still dreaming, but your body wakes up, but it's paralyzed because your brain is dreaming.

That's why I brought up the whole sleep deprivation thing. It's like your brain's gone. No, but your body's panicking. So everything spikes.

So you either experience or see something that you did not expect, like something spectral. A lot of people describe it as like an old woman, either like holding down their chest or sitting on them. So literally what it's called old hack is everyone sees an old hack, which is weird. Right.

Everyone sees the same person or same thing even. And apparently there's also a dude like a tall skinny figure with a fucking man. Everybody hates fedoras either with or without like glowing eyes. Usually the reports are one of these two things.

So when you and most people feel petrified because you know, kind of like trying to punch somebody in a dream and you know, you can't just like, you can't move. Oh man, that didn't do any damage. Or like you're trying to run in a dream and just like water feel like somebody's holding all your limbs. It's kind of like that, but with an intense fear.

I mean, just because you're opening your eyes, you think it's breaking up and you can't move. And you're awake and you think, Oh shit, something's killing me right now. Intense about fear. Anything about it.

So how did you snap out of the thing with the little girl? Well, like I said, I thought I woke up, but I inception myself dream inside of the dream bitch. I'm not awake. I start automatically floating on the bed.

I'm like, Oh wait a second. This isn't dream. Unless you were dying. Oh yeah.

That's what I wrote down. We'll talk about that in a minute. Sweet. And then there was again, again, again, the way I do the way I wake up from it, because it happens kind of often as I start basically screaming in my dream enough to where I feel my actual voice box go and start making noise.

Right. And I just keep doing that until my wife here is mainly up. So I can't wake myself up. So you're convinced that you're you're still asleep at this time.

Oh, I realize I'm asleep. But maybe with your eyes open? I don't know what it is because I still can't move and the thing continuously gets closer. I've had something on my chest like to where I can't breathe, but I can't move and it's like I need to wake up before they get me or I'm going to die.

Can I can I hedge with mine? Yeah. Okay. And this is where I think it's health related.

Yeah, apparently people would sleep at me. Yeah. Check please. So in college, I'm smoking heavily this time.

Like, I mean, as many cigarettes as I can afford if you're a smoker. I was. Were you a joker? Been a took?

Yeah. All the above. All right. So very poor health admittedly.

You know, I barely went to class just enough to pass. Uplate. I mean, I never went to sleep like on purpose. I think somebody has a joke about that.

I don't remember who was like, I knew I was getting older when you started going to bed on purpose instead of just passing out. I need to go to sleep. Right. So I can't always pass out with the lights on because I was awake.

Oh, yeah. So get this. So very poor health, obviously. Handered all the time.

First time's on my back and I'm sleeping and I get this sensation that like some sort of entity like an alien of some kind is like stretching out like inside of me. What? And right in the center of my chest, it feels like some sort of fucking jellyfish is like trying to pull out my soul. What?

No joke. 100%. This is exactly what happened. So this horrible feeling of something trying to rip something out of me.

I open my eyes and it's my dorm room. So yes, so weird thing about it. Everything is accurate. Sleep paralysis.

Like eyes open. I don't see an old hag. I don't see a dude. I see like fucking predator, like fucking telltale shimmer and it's like some sort of fucking monster thing like kind of like a jellyfish like a brain with tentacles like fucking like all over me.

I can't move. And whether it's psychological conditioning from a very young age or it's just some real shit. I immediately go to you know, 18, 19 years growing up in the church. Barely can utter the word Jesus.

I'm like Jesus Christ. Boom. Snap right out of it. Not only snap right out of it.

I can like see the thing fucking like a fucking almost invisible slimmer the ghost like like fucking move on. Fuck. Fuck. And I'm definitely awake.

Yeah. When I'm saying this, I'm like, you know, freaking the fuck out at middle of the night happens again, but I'm face down, you know, I've never had to face down figure four, you know, best way to sleep. No. Yeah.

I sleep on your arm. That falls asleep. I don't fall asleep. I'm just so much.

Just like randomly calling as well. But it's very similar. It was on your back though. I still felt like it was trying to pull something out of my chest like forward down through the bed.

Yeah. Same thing. Dream something pulling away from me. But I couldn't see even though like I opened my eyes and like I can see my pillow.

Yeah. I can't fucking move. It's exact scenario. Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ. Fuckin' gone. Really? It's never happened again.

Just like damn, he knows the secret. Right? It's weird. I've never had something get to me.

It's always approaching. Oh, it's always like creeping up. And I'm like freaking out and I have to make myself say something to someone. My wife's a really light sleeper.

And she knows like when I do this, just shake me and wake me up. Wow. Yeah. See, my wife takes extra precautions because I do snore.

She says she wears earbuds. Oh, dude. She's in the midst of a melee with a home invader and she's not gonna wake up. That's how I just have to sleep.

She's got earbuds in and she's taken two squishing pillows on either side of her head. Really? Yeah. I don't know how.

Maybe just to be a dick. Her alarm was set for 5 a.m. the other day. It's going off for like 10 minutes.

I'm like, no. Eventually I get up, turn it off. She doesn't even stutter. She's still sleeping.

I don't know the fuck, man. She clearly can't hear anything. So yeah, that's not gonna be an option for me. So what do you think is going on, man?

I think it's real. I don't know. It's actual entity. It's just a little slash helplated.

Alright. However, interesting thing is when this was happening, I was reading one of Carlos Gasting Eda's books, which talks about a mud demon that's basically like an interdimensional matrix style entity that is farming us for our emotions. Hey, you wanna pop it up quick? Yeah, man.

Let's take a break. We'll be right back. Shit, you ever write letters backwards? No, because I'm not this looks.

Yeah, fuck it. I might be this looks. Are you just like, I just messed up saying the word dyslexic. He brings backwards.

Yeah, I got a lot of stuff going on my head. Anyways, shout out people. Shout out people. Anyway, what I was talking about with...

Casanada? Yep. So dude wrote like 12 books. Some people think fictional.

Some people just think he was masking the identities of Don Lamentis. Apparently this Indian shaman that like showed him the ways of the force. In the first book he talks about like in order to see into other dimensions you have like this, you know, it's like a mirror and you put water on it. So it's like a double reflection.

And that's where Ghost from. Stop it. Patchess Wazy. No, two mirrors.

Like you ever been like old school escalator mirror on both sides and it looks like stretch of that infinity? Oh yeah. Me and my step brother. We had two giant mirrors on either side.

We decided where ghosts come from. Fuck with little kids. Like oh well, there's a zillion of me. That's weird.

That's where ghosts come from. Why would ghosts come from? I don't know man. That's what we thought when we were like six.

You could go and face it. So apparently you'd like do this gazing thing where you're like looking straight ahead but you're actually looking at your peripheral. Have you ever done this exercise? Yeah.

Where you're like I can see you. But I'm not really looking at you. I'm looking at the fucking window. I'm looking at the closet.

So we have a conversation. I can see it over there. Right. But we're looking straight at each other.

So apparently you just look at for danger. I don't use it for swivel. Yeah. I noticed that you're always really for danger.

Always. You know, we can smell around. It's obvious, sad. Our casters.

So check this out. You stare into this mirror slash reflection with the water and you look into the corners of your eyes and you focus on that. And like eventually you'll start seeing like black blobs. Yeah.

And if you focus on them long enough, it's kind of almost like a lucid dream where you like if you focus your energy on it long enough, then you'll eventually be able to look straight at it. Yeah, I do this. I just stare at something until kind of everything goes black on the outskirts. What?

Seriously? You never do that? No, no, no, no. I'm not fully awake and everything but you just stare at something long enough and just everything kind of slowly starts to fade out.

No. You start to get like a ton of vision on that but everything else becomes like only time something like that's happened to me is when I passed out. I've never passed out. You want to pass out right now?

Yeah. I don't want to. Everyone always says that when I say that. Like we could do it.

I'm like, I don't want to. I don't know if I could squeeze that. I can have to make that. A strong job.

Yeah. So why do that so people can't choke me out. Plus the beard. So once you know, Casa Nana gets through all this training with the Mexican Indians, Toltecs, and so in his last book, apparently Don Juan tells him about what's really going on.

And up until then, Casa Nana has seen these things and he starts calling them the mud shadow. Okay. And Don Juan calls it the cosmic predator. Apparently, we're not what we think we are.

We're more like in the Matrix and we are food for these other dimensional beings that live off of our emotions, emotional energy or whatever. Yeah. So like they're the ones that cause turmoil in our lives so that we get frustrated and pissed and kind of like monsters, ink. Kind of.

Yeah. But shadow people. No, our mother guy thinks that these other dimensional beings are actually divided into like two teams, like so that they get all the energy from human beings. So like there's like a split between the dark and the light and they don't care who you're into.

Like if you're a super positive person, fine. Or if you're super negative, no big deal. Either way. We're still gonna soak up your emotions and then we're like some sort of farm for these other human beings that live on human emotion.

Have you heard anything about this? No, but that sounds super interesting. So apparently the ancient Hiltex recognized these beings probably through taking lots of ayahuasca and really, really good drugs. They believe that human beings weren't always the way we are.

Like they call it the sedated man and that these otherworldly beings like control us and make it easier for themselves. I mean, very similar to like cattle. So like it kind of explains like why most of us are fucking idiots. And then like some of us appear to be vastly more intelligent and conducive because they make it so so that there's more of us and that we become more frustrated because like the power is held by very few.

So they have like tears of energy siphoning. Kind of like or they just. Elon Musk doesn't get siphoned that much. Whereas no more so.

Well Billy Bob down in the trailer park is siphoned so much that he's held behind almost trained completely. Like Nikola Tesla, they're like, okay, we're gonna change the world because we're these super intelligent otherworldly beings that feed off of your emotions. You know what and we're gonna change the way your world works because it's gonna be more efficient for us. You know, we're doing basically being improved for cattle.

Where do most people get great ideas from? I don't know. They're dreams. Yeah, dreams.

So the shadow inspiration, the mud monster shadow inspiration or whisper in little secrets in your earway, you know, you have this dream and it's really them controlling your dream. Uh huh. So this is a quote from Casanetta. We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives.

He even beings are his prisoner. The predators, our lord and master, has rendered us docile helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so.

This was an energetic fact for sorcerers of ancient Mexico. They took us over because we were food for them, they squeezed us mercilessly because we are their assessments. Sessentness. Just as we rear chickens and chicken coops, the predators rear us and human coops.

Sorsers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social moorings. They're the ones that have set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They've given us the desire to covet, greed and cowardice. These predators that make us complacent, work in a routine, ego and an aegal, all in order to keep us in obedient, weak and meek.

Predators engage in cells in this dependence maneuver from the point of view of fighting strategists, our renderers maneuver from the point of view who suffer from it. They gave us their mind. The predators gave us their mind, which becomes our mind. That's the thing, I think it's a little cobbly to dare.

Where's the part I was trying to get to though? The sorcerer of ancient Mexico's were quite illities with the idea when the predator made its appearance on earth. The reason that man must have been a complete being at one point was dependence inside spheres of awareness that our mythological legends nowadays, everything seems to disappear. And now we have a sedated man.

What I'm saying is that we have against us not a simple predator, it's very smart and organized, follows a methodical system to render us useful. The man, the magical being that he was destined to be, is no longer magical. We are now an average piece of meat. Creepy.

Right? So if you think about human beings in terms of history, energy, history, you know, everybody has like these in this algae core, you know, not really in this algae because we can't remember it, but you know, romantic ideas about ancient societies. Like, why was everybody so fucking smart? Why aren't people that smart anymore?

It kind of falls in line. Like, maybe the ancient peoples were before this spectral predator showed up and we were like, oh, we can feed on these motherfuckers. Or maybe the ancient people found out the easier things and we're just having all the easy things are taken. I don't know, it didn't sound that easy to build pyramids, but I'm talking about like coming up with like a square plus b squared equals c squared.

Right. And a bunch of mathematical stuff. Like, yeah, I get it. It was probably really hard to come up with those at the time, but now we're going on next thing to figure out be like quantum physics.

Like, you know, it's just we're trying to figure out hard on her stuff, which is going to take longer and be more difficult. I don't know. A lot of the math that's available to us now is based on shit that like Pythagoras came up with and he was a Greek. He wasn't like, he didn't even learn the shit himself.

He went to Egypt and learned all of his mathematics. Yeah, that's true. A lot of the most complex mathematics available to us today are from like fucking Babylon. That shit doesn't even exist anymore.

That's true. We haven't gotten much more advanced than that. Maybe that's what the tower of battle was. Maybe instead of God, we were reaching to a different dimension.

Maybe it wasn't invited the shadow people over here. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe it wasn't a front to God. Maybe it was in front of the shadow people.

Yeah. Like, no, we're going to break free from you motherfuckers. And then I was like, okay, well, we're going to separate all y'all. And now you're all dumb.

Right. Because apparently one of the ideas is the evil inside of us, we project on other people. Or what we think is a shortcoming. And obviously it's an inside on our own.

So anybody that isn't, you know, it sounds super conceited, but anybody doesn't know themselves and know who they are and what they are are constantly going to assign blame to everybody else. Everybody knows those people. Yeah. They have no accountability.

They just think they're just a victim of their environment. Yes. It's always, if this would have happened to me, me, me, me, me, me, according to the EU theory, like that's what these fuckers want. They want you to not look inside yourself.

They want you to constantly blame everybody else. They want you to be subdued by, um, resonating calls as an inventory. Well, why not? Oh, well, I don't have the best house or the best car or the biggest bank account or the best shoes or, you know, like, if everybody's always making inventories of their lives, like I know that other things and then everything's going to be cool, but you'll never be happy.

No. Well, why wouldn't they just make it a perfect society? So everyone's super happy and therefore, maybe it's like the, maybe it's like a matrix. Maybe they need different energy for different things.

Right. Well, if there's not two groups, and they really do feed on turmoil, then happy society wouldn't work. That's true. Damn.

Right. So that was, that was looking into. Well, as far as like our cons, apparently is what some people call them, these other dimensional beings that have been on. I first heard it in Starcraft.

That's where I heard it. And they were badass though, right? Yeah, man, what the fuck did they say when you activated them? I don't know, you know, Bad ass whatever it was and they had like lightning hands and they just like burst people into lightning anybody got nearby You remember?

Well, well, why do you look like a uniflexer? I was trying to think Archons no shadow people. Hey, it's what we're talking about. No, that's what we're talking about.

So I've always thought of shadow people as I mean Feel free to weigh in on the no, that's it and dimensional beings. Yeah, that's where I'm going with it I've always thought of shadow people as like a pandementional being like something from another dimension Yeah, but I've heard and read about you know people lucid dream right you know Lucid dreaming is it's I've always thought of lucid dreaming is like you can control things like you're conscious in a dream It's almost like an out-of-body experience like you leave in your sleeping body And you can do kind of whatever you want some people believe like that's what shadow people are What the what are shadow people people lose a dreaming huh? Oh? Is their mental weird projection their mental yeah like an astral traveler astral projection That's the word I was looking for yeah, but then there's also been cases of people who lose a dream or astral project that a Shadowy figure tries to take over basically they had to fight the shadowy figure and if they lose that shadow figure is going to take over their body Right, so it's like an invading like some sort of parasite Yes, like an interdimensional parasite which is very similar what you're saying where it's feeding off of us kind of like what I saw when I was in college Yes, and it's always made me wonder about that experience like You know we're talking about human beings tendency to pick out patterns the lights were on when this happened Mm-hmm, so most people sleep in the dark because they're normal So you might not see like some sort of weird looking shape would look like an old lady if the fucking lights were out Well, that might also be part of your brain just half half asleep half awake putting like the most common thing I think of is it's some crazy which face because it looks weird that's what I was saying long hair But they're actually tentacles going in doesn't make any sense for what happened to me now because I've never seen that ship before in my life Yeah, well besides in the predator Yeah, if predator was a fucking special jelly fish jelly, you know like psychic jelly fish trying to eat my soul.

Why do you keep staring at me so long? I don't know. Yeah, yeah turn and wheels up here, buddy. This is Auditory experience smell that smoke auditory experience for our listeners.

You have to keep talking you can't just keep staring at me in the face I'm gonna cut all the sounds out so it doesn't really matter. It's gonna sound like I just kept talking I don't know that I'm just being a dick for pointing it out But is it you get like fucking cow eyes every like a couple of minutes when you're like boom like your eyes will get bigger Because I'm thinking it's like mare but the words don't come out to mouth It's alright man. I'm dumb. Shout out You I was stalling just now to give you time to collect your thoughts and you're just like totally let that What I was thinking was do you think there's any proof that like the what they exist and like certain people know they exist Well shared experiences the only reason we know where we exist in the first place, right?

Yeah, I mean I know that I am because I am but you agree with me that you are that you are and we're both experiencing this together Oh, you know what I read so if there's millions of accounts of this shit happening over hundreds of years There's paintings about it. There's poems about it. There's poems about it People talk about it being demons on their chest or a succubus or a thousand different ways to describe it But it's a common phenomenon. You know what I read like what it is two days ago that kind of blew mine was that?

You're a different person to everyone even yourself. Yeah, I read something similar to that Like and everyone's mind you're someone else. I think it was on shower thoughts here. We get on that Yeah occasionally and I forget what it was exactly it was like like even even someone who just sees you on a bus somebody you've never met thinks You're an asshole because of how someone described you or not even that like you see a stranger and your mind compiles a backstory Yeah, like that.

I mean, that's just prejudice and that's how you are I'm just kidding, but I know exactly what you're saying like have you ever been describing like your wife or a friend And you know misery loves company. So sometimes people only hear the bad shit. Yeah, and they're like man. I don't know man I I think shadow people could be real.

I don't know. I've had a couple experiences, but they've only been in half dream states I've never been like fully awake and seen like a shadow move or man. I can tell you for certain I mean if you've experienced sleep paralysis, you know, that's one of the scariest things you can experience It really is man. So that part of it is definitely fucking real.

Well, that's another thing I mean don't know if I agree with it could be anything other than Physiologically like your body being like what the fuck did you like just a mix up a signal like your arm falling asleep? Yeah, but you don't get a tea lead station said you get someone I'm very good. Yeah, yeah, probably cuz you have sleep after you Fucking come to get us dude. Is that a chopper?

What is that fucking noise? I've never heard that. Hey, AC. Oh, it's closed.

Oh, that's close Well, you're welcome everybody some time Charleston. Yeah, it's hot as shit. I'm not a single house. So this is kind of nice I mean fix it It'd be $500.00.

Feel free on because it uses the old free on So it's like old show that you're not supposed to use so it's like you can use you know stop leak and pay $500 Throw it up and then maybe that'll stop the leak, but it's like why not we will yeah, but then it's if it don't Then I just spent ways to find anyways. Hey listening to yourself. I do man God sometimes I feel so dumb cuz my brain my brain doesn't sound like I speak much like that. I did that on purpose But you know what's hilarious is you're crazy intelligent my brain don't do this when we're talking off my I know And that's why I kind of try to get used to just hitting record and then just talking and not I don't know why you have brought with it my brain moves faster than my tongue and move is what happens Yes, I agree And so I start tripping my tongue I do the same thing and then it's like and then half words don't come out half words Yep, it still doesn't make sense.

I know what I'm trying to say I start getting sweaty and panicky Well, that's right. I'm sure you've noticed me doing that one thing where I say the end of something first Because I'm afraid I won't get out the full thought yeah, you're like pancakes. So you know when you mix right Yeah, I have I heard I can feel myself doing it. I'm like no, but you just gotta fucking say it anyway We got we got to do this more often Yes, I think it's been like three weeks.

It's alright. I'm a you know topic, but okay, so shout of people Can I redirect into another one of these two hand dimensional beings? Why you look that up? So if they could take over our body, why would they like think about it this way if you're raising cows Do the cows know what the fuck you're up to?

Yeah, I think they do well. I think they do what at the end for sure Yeah, when they're online ever seen a kid online accounts going on our house. Yeah, it's one of the saddest things I've ever seen Yeah, they may be done, but they know what's going on. Oh, yeah.

Oh, hey, I was getting killed guys my tiny brain little cat knows what's going on I'm sure an animal that has four stomachs. How does that work? They throw up from one stomach into another? Your grass I think sometimes they go up in their mouth chew some more than swallow it and it goes down a different track to a different stomach It's what I believe happens.