Shaking the Global Order S2, Ep 18: Jones on US-China relations and the wider Indo-Pacific scene

It is with great pleasure that I have invited my colleague Bruce Jones into the Virtual Studio for this episode on ‘Shaking the Global Order’. ‘The US-China relationship has been marked by growing competition and rivalry but leaders did gather for a Xi-Biden Summit on November 15th that took place near San Francisco at the margin of the APEC Summit. So what is the state of US-China relations as a result of that Summit, tensions between the two over Taiwan and in the Indo-Pacific. How are the two reshaping the global order in the face of US-China relations? Bruce Jones is a senior fellow with the Strobe Talbott Center for Security, Strategy, and Technology in the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution; he also works with the Center for East Asia Policy Studies. From 2015 to 2020, Bruce served as the vice president and director for the Foreign Policy program. His research expertise and policy experience is in international security. Bruce’s current research focus is on U.S. strategy, international order, and great power relations. His most recent books on the topic are “To Rule the Waves: How Control of the World’s Oceans Shapes the Fate of the Superpowers” (Scribner, 2021) and “The Marshall Plan and the Shaping of American Strategy,” (Brookings Institution Press, 2017) Bruce also has had significant experience on multilateral institutions. He was a senior advisor to Kofi Annan on U.N. reform and served as deputy research director to the U.N.’s High-level Panel on Threats, Challenges and Change, as well as lead scholar for the International Task Force on Global Public Goods. So, let’s join Bruce in the Virtual Studio to examine the US-China relationship and relations between the two in the Indo-Pacific.