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EPISODE · Oct 14, 2025 · 38 MIN

Shami and John Stovall - Gotta Get Stronger, Part 3

from Worlds Asunder · host Shady and H.Y. Gregor

Every hero needs a quest. Whether the stakes are saving the world, killing the monster, or rescuing a princess, the best stories throw our heroes into adversity, challenging them and making them become better versions of themselves before they’re worthy and powerful enough to take on their next adventure (whether that’s an exam or a fire-breathing dragon). Watching characters get stronger is one of the best parts, but just how do you measure their leveling up? LitRPG and Progression Fantasy novels are taking the world of genre readers by storm. It’s not just fantasy and science fiction, it’s the thrill of leveling up, and following stats, character, and power growth. Enter John and Shami Stovall, who join us today to help dial in the genre tropes, write characters that punch above their weight class (literally), and talk about the intricacies of worldbuilding and plot development in these niche genres that have such a huge appeal to so many readers. In Part Three, We Discuss: Levels of progression and threats to characters and the world Understanding the Bad Guy An unexpected vendetta against Assassin’s Creed “Male coding” in LitRPG and managing reader expectations Female vs male romance expectations Handling criticism and angry internet hordesResources and Guest Links: Shami’s Site: https://sastovallauthor.com/John’s Site: https://john-stovall-author.com/Check out some of the Stovalls latest and greatest! Words of Power by Shami Stovallhttps://www.amazon.com/Words-Power-Progression-Fantasy-Epic/dp/B0F842YBXF The Chronos Chronicles by Shami Stovallhttps://www.amazon.com/Time-Marked-Warlock-Chronos-Chronicles-Stovall/dp/1957613890 The Cerberus Cards by John Stovallhttps://www.amazon.com/Time-Marked-Warlock-Chronos-Chronicles-Stovall/dp/1957613890 John and Shami are a power couple in more ways than one, and we loved talking with them! We’re so grateful they carved some time out of their writing schedules to join us and talk powering up, monster fights, and breaking down the tricky tropes and subgenres in LitRPG. Host Links: H.Y. Gregor: https://hygregor.com/David Shadoin: https://www.davidshadoin.com/ Credits: (all assets licensed through the sites listed)Intro: Music- Cinematic Epic Trailer by PaulYudin on PixabayAnimation and Image- From Vecteezy user- kazim hussian; from pixabay users-davidfoxx, DavidGallie, olenchic, stefaniejockschat, AiVreaSaStii, RuneSnow, duyen-nguyen, EnchantedStudios, Outro: Music- Good Night by FASSounds on PixabayAnimation and Image- From Vecteezy user-onlydesignz; from pixabay users-olenchic, Placidplace, Evgeniy_Z, Dantegrafico, Shayea_Kim

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